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Yes I misread the promo last night and thought it was a 10/30 sngI mean on the 10/30 Sng
Just tried to get into Arcader battle and it is full at 1000 playersHi Lincolnuk,
After @steveh35 feedback regarding the freerolls being full to fast, we decided to increase the max number of players from 1500 to 2000, so I had to cancel the 10.15 battle to set up the new settings. However, the battle is now back up in the Battle of Slots lobby.
Br,
Daniel.
Just tried to get into Arcader battle and it is full at 1000 players
Are you talking first hour if so this isn't true as I played Moon Princess on the day the clock's went forward and played it about an hour and 20 mins after start and finished first, if clocks hadn't gone forward wouldn't have been awake to play it.With an hour to go it was full. They obviously do not care that much because these discrepancies about numbers and % chance of winning depending on what hour that your playing has been pointed out for a long time now with no change
Hello everyone,
Thank you for letting me know, I will take a look at this and see what we can do. We are working in improvments for the Battles and I hope that the updates coming will address the concerns raised herr.
Best regards,
Daniel.

What are you mentioning moon princess and the clocks going forward to justify your claim that I am wrong for? There is very little merit in your logic here!Are you talking first hour if so this isn't true as I played Moon Princess on the day the clock's went forward and played it about an hour and 20 mins after start and finished first, if clocks hadn't gone forward wouldn't have been awake to play it.





As more and more players play battles, it gets harder and harder to snare a top spot. Maybe consider having a few more bigger prizes for the top 10 or so, rather than just adding more 5 free spins to the lower ranks? So rather than 100, 75, 50, do 100, 80, 70, 60, 50.
Canadian Battles have more than doubled in participants since they began, maybe time to look at a little boost for them as well? Or offer a few more on 20 cent games? There is pretty regularly a 7 Sins tourney were the bet size is 20 cents, but the free spins awarded are at only 10 cent. There are also 10 cent battles on the game. Not sure what your intention was with that.
That would mean reducing the paid places back down. I'm all for this. Instead of having say for example a battle with 4,500 spins and 439 paid places...I would reduce these paid places down to around 200 in favour of bigger rewards for the top 1-20.
It's annoying to finish 4th and get 25 spins, where that goes down to around spot 20.
Making 1st place 150 spins, 2nd 125 spins, 3rd 100 spins, 4-10th 75 spins & 11-20th 50 spins is far more appealing and rewarding to me.
It would also make the battles entertaining to players.
I feel from videoslots point of view this would also be good incentive for people to attempt to meet the £200 wagering who otherwise would not have bothered.
As more and more players play battles, it gets harder and harder to snare a top spot. Maybe consider having a few more bigger prizes for the top 10 or so, rather than just adding more 5 free spins to the lower ranks? So rather than 100, 75, 50, do 100, 80, 70, 60, 50.
Canadian Battles have more than doubled in participants since they began, maybe time to look at a little boost for them as well? Or offer a few more on 20 cent games? There is pretty regularly a 7 Sins tourney were the bet size is 20 cents, but the free spins awarded are at only 10 cent. There are also 10 cent battles on the game. Not sure what your intention was with that.


It is pretty clear from all player perks at VS that their overall strategy is spreading the goodies over the largest possible amount of players. Weekly Race is another example, just like the Freerolls. As with a medal, every strategy has two sides. TBH, I prefer getting "something to more" instead of "a lot to a few".
Sure it would be more enticing to have 50 or 25 more FS for the top spots but try telling that to the thousands who are content with 5 or 10FS a few times a week as with the progressing popularity it is getting increasingly but understandably more difficult to get into the TOP20 in a battle. My best spot since Dan increased the prize pool to 1,500, 3,000 and 4,500FS was somewhere in the low 200's.
All other results would have given me nothing with the lower prize pools, hence, I rather take more often 5FS than nothing at all.![]()


I don't see them thousands having much of a problem. If the paid places are halfed, and the minimum reward of 5 spins doubled to 10; then it just evens itself out anyway for them.
In the end everyone still has an equal chance of winning 1st place (Or getting placed). So I am definitely in favour of increasing the freespin prizes for 1-20.
I believe my post above is perfect
However I do respect your point of view
Edit: I personally find the battles a little boring when you are sometimes lucky to scrape 5 freepins on games such as the likes of Flux & Cloud Quest etc ect...only to win 3p
I would like to see it spiced up a little to make it feel worthwhile.
According to the "Weekly Race" rankings from the last weeks, there are about 5,000 - 6,000 players every week wagering the minimum required $500 to qualify for the battles. I only took players with at least 2,000 points, which should cover the $500 since you need to bet minimum $0.20 to get 1 point for the race.
I assume that the majority of these 5,000 or so players are registering as well for the Freerolls, hence, there are thousands of potential battle participants.

In my view, there is quite a difference if you have 100, 200 or 300 prizes in a race. Placing in the TOP300 is certainly easier than in the TOP100. However, overall it is not easier to place let's say in the TOP10. That stays the same no matter if you have 100 or 300 winning places, on the contrary, with more players taking part, it is getting harder to get to the top spots.
The battles might be boring when you get 5FS @ $0.10 but remember that VS is paying for the Free Spins, hence making them attractive to more players with prizes going down to places 300 or 400 is certainly logic and strategic, since more players will win "something" which subsequently increases the probability that they will wager again the required $500 to remain eligible for the free battles.
IMHO, you are to fixated on the battles, no offense please. Reason is that the free battles are just one part of the overall package at VS, which also includes game achievement rewards, level-up rewards, cashback, race winnings and special promos (Freeroll Happy Hours & Weekends). Plus, all perks are cash, hence they will have to be in smaller sizes than at other places where you have wagering requirements slapped on virtually everything.
And do not forget, that you get the perks no matter if you win or lose, e.g. no other casino gives you weekly cashback if you win throughout the week.

Well for me it's only £200 to wager to meet the requiremnts, I'm assuming it's the same for everyone
Or is it that wagering £500 gives you 2 weeks instead of one? I can't remember.

Well for me it's only £200 to wager to meet the requiremnts, I'm assuming it's the same for everyone
Or is it that wagering £500 gives you 2 weeks instead of one? I can't remember.
Either way the amount you need to wager is absolutely irrelevant to how the top rewards should be, in my humuble opinion. It doesn't matter if 20,000 met the conditions. If you look at the battles in their current form, during the week right now, the most freespins offered by VS is 4,500 freerolls. This battle has 2,250 max participants. It's fairly certain that all these places will be filled because they run at peak times. The off peak time battles never get filled and there is always less than 1,000 registrations; therefore it is logical to say that playing at off peak times increases your chances of getting a place.
The fact that there is always less than 1,000 at off peak times suggest that not everyone even participates in these battles whether they met the requirements or not.
And in my view I feel this is exactly why the distrubution of the freespins rewards should favour the higher positions.
So you finish 4th in a freeroll and are rewarded with 25 freespins, then you have someone finish 73rd who wins 20 freespins. Only 5 freespins less than you got for 4th. Do you not feel like that kind of defeats the whole purpose of finishing in a higher position? No matter how hard it is with all the participants. So if it's more difficult to place in the top 20, then it makes sense that those top 20 positions should have a higher distrubution of freespins allocated.
Indeed. Either way Videoslots are going to be giving out say 4,500 spins. To Videoslots it doesn't matter who those spins go to or how they are distrubuted. They will be giving out the exact same value of freespins either way, So I should see no reason for it not to be at least considered. And I would definitely argue that with position 1) 150 spins, 2) 125 spins, 3) 100 spins etc etc would be more enticing to players to meet the conditions.
Of course there is no answer here as people are individuals and like and prefer different things, just like us right now
I'm not fixated by them...I just wish they would be more rewarding to the top positions and do away with the minimum 5 spin rewards for 10.
Definitely offended Harry
Also no clue why you get the idea of wagering requirements needing to be implented, I'm not following, sorry. Like I mentioned previously VS will be giving out 4,500 either way with the same value; from a financial perspective nothing changes for VS just the rewards for players.


Here is Videoslots Superflip Tournament later on:
4,500 Freespins - Freezeout
Max Entrants - 2,250
1st: Super Flip - 100 Free Spins
2nd: Super Flip - 75 Free Spins
3rd: Super Flip - 50 Free Spins
4th - 29th: Super Flip - 25 Free Spins
30th - 73th: Super Flip - 20 Free Spins
74th - 119th: Super Flip - 15 Free Spins
120th - 210th: Super Flip - 10 Free Spins
211th - 439th: Super Flip - 5 Free Spins
Now tell me which looks more appealing to you as a player, honestly.
1st: Super Flip - 150 Free Spins
2nd: Super Flip - 125 Free Spins
3rd: Super Flip - 100 Free Spins
4th - 10th: Super Flip - 75 Free Spins
11th - 20th: Super Flip - 50 Free Spins
21st - 50th: Super Flip - 30 Free Spins
51st - 100th: Super Flip - 20 Free Spins
101st-150thSuper Flip - 15 Free Spins
151st - 265th: Super Flip - 10 Free Spins
I'm pretty sure my table is 4,500 spins rewarded exactly...I'm not taking the piss; but that is hugely more attractive than the current one.

I have to protest in the strongest possible terms because I am bound to finish in 266th placeHere is Videoslots Superflip Tournament later on:
4,500 Freespins - Freezeout
Max Entrants - 2,250
1st: Super Flip - 100 Free Spins
2nd: Super Flip - 75 Free Spins
3rd: Super Flip - 50 Free Spins
4th - 29th: Super Flip - 25 Free Spins
30th - 73th: Super Flip - 20 Free Spins
74th - 119th: Super Flip - 15 Free Spins
120th - 210th: Super Flip - 10 Free Spins
211th - 439th: Super Flip - 5 Free Spins
Now tell me which looks more appealing to you as a player, honestly.
1st: Super Flip - 150 Free Spins
2nd: Super Flip - 125 Free Spins
3rd: Super Flip - 100 Free Spins
4th - 10th: Super Flip - 75 Free Spins
11th - 20th: Super Flip - 50 Free Spins
21st - 50th: Super Flip - 30 Free Spins
51st - 100th: Super Flip - 20 Free Spins
101st-150thSuper Flip - 15 Free Spins
151st - 265th: Super Flip - 10 Free Spins
I'm pretty sure my table is 4,500 spins rewarded exactly...I'm not taking the piss; but that is hugely more attractive than the current one.

Looking at your placings you must be their blue eyed boy compared to meWagering requirement is $200 for the special events, $500 for the regular daily Freerolls. That's what I know, but I haven't checked in years now as I always wager more than $500 in a week, hence, never bothered about that.
The battles are actually rarely full, mostly only on the days where VS has Freeroll Happy Hours or Weekends. The last column shows my rankings, embarrassing, I know.![]()
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Yes, Videoslots is paying for the Free Spins and it doesn't matter how they distribute the prices, but it matters how many players qualify for the battles. The more do the required wagering the quicker it pays the "VS investment" for the Free Spins prize pool.
Now, if you reduce the winning places to let's say TOP100 instead of TOP400 then you will have less people winning anything at all, increasing the chance that many will give up doing the required wagering since they will never win any FS in the battles.
I agree though that having bigger TOP3 or TOP10 prizes would increase the overall appeal of the Freerolls.
At the end of the day, fans of VS like me will wager far more than the $500 a week since it is their/my main gaming hangout and the Freerolls are just a side show to pass time during the day.

Wagering requirement is $200 for the special events, $500 for the regular daily Freerolls. That's what I know, but I haven't checked in years now as I always wager more than $500 in a week, hence, never bothered about that.
The battles are actually rarely full, mostly only on the days where VS has Freeroll Happy Hours or Weekends. The last column shows my rankings, embarrassing, I know.![]()
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Yes, Videoslots is paying for the Free Spins and it doesn't matter how they distribute the prices, but it matters how many players qualify for the battles. The more do the required wagering the quicker it pays the "VS investment" for the Free Spins prize pool.
Now, if you reduce the winning places to let's say TOP100 instead of TOP400 then you will have less people winning anything at all, increasing the chance that many will give up doing the required wagering since they will never win any FS in the battles.
I agree though that having bigger TOP3 or TOP10 prizes would increase the overall appeal of the Freerolls.
At the end of the day, fans of VS like me, will wager far more than the $500 a week since it is their/my main gaming hangout and the Freerolls are just a side show to pass time during the day.
Lol to be honest nothing is going to make free spins on superflip look attractive![]()


I must be a figment of my imagination thenI really should have used another game to put forward as an example; shouldn't I have?
No wonder the post got no likes![]()

Hardest part for VS is you are never going to please all the players all of the time - someone is always going to be displeased, they won't be able to do the right option for being wrong![]()

See it's kind of a catch 22 isn't it?
I could say that while they my qualify for a freespin place less often, when they do their reward will be higher and hence that might be more appealing to them to want to continue to deposit and meet wagering.
I mean there really is no right or wrong way of looking at it as it's all to do with prefrence. And we could debate all day about which is more appealing to the player and which is better for Videoslots.
In the end though, it's up for the boss to decide how the freerolls are run, but like you say Videoslots will stil always have players like us either way.


I really should have used another game to put forward as an example; shouldn't I have?
No wonder the post got no likes![]()

I must be a figment of my imagination then![]()

Its not like you to be the voice of reason when it comes to fair play![]()

Hardest part for VS is you are never going to please all the players all of the time - someone is always going to be displeased, they won't be able to do the right option for being wrong![]()

Hardest part for VS is you are never going to please all the players all of the time - someone is always going to be displeased, they won't be able to do the right option for being wrong![]()

Don't we love to debate!![]()
But you are right, the BOSS decides and he thinks that having more people getting "a little" is better for the business than less people getting "a little more" (at the end of the day we won't have droves of players becoming millionaires from 100 or 200 FS).
The same strategy has been applied to the Weekly Race, the $500 for top spot has not increased for a long time, yet you can place now 8915th and get $3 in race winnings for just 400 - 450 spins @ $0.20. Take an average RTP and you get your loss back in race winnings.![]()


I am waiting for the day that Dan posts a video in here of him doing a striptease while wearing nipple tasselsAhem even I know how hard it must be for Videoslots to juggle all the differing opinions and how it is asking for the impossible to please everyone![]()
I am waiting for the day that Dan posts a video in here of him doing a striptease while wearing nipple tassels
SnippedDon't we love to debate!![]()
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