Official Videoslots presents Battle of Slots!

[goatwack]

I'm finding it difficult just to meet the £500 wagering criteria despite several deposits these days too. I think it may be a bit too steep, and I don't want to have to deposit £250 just to qualify truth be told.

I do like a lot of what VS does with their structure but feel that say £50 -£100 worth of deposits in a calendar month ought to be enough, or at least create a way in which those that often lose out on freerolls get perhaps a 1-day entry or set number of goes, like ten or so.

Just a thought

 

[geordiecolin]

I definitely hear you Geordie. Deposited 4 times over 2 days for the very same reason and my deposits coincidentally totalled $90 as well and now I am left with just over $1 with no withdrawals.

I have not even factored in the £40 cashback I spent as well. I too have £1 credit. They are not free and should not be considered as such by the casino

 

[geordiecolin]

I'm finding it difficult just to meet the £500 wagering criteria despite several deposits these days too. I think it may be a bit too steep, and I don't want to have to deposit £250 just to qualify truth be told.

I do like a lot of what VS does with their structure but feel that say £50 -£100 worth of deposits in a calendar month ought to be enough, or at least create a way in which those that often lose out on freerolls get perhaps a 1-day entry or set number of goes, like ten or so.

Just a thought

It is an added bonus for high rollers who would wager more than that anyhoo,or those who have already benefited by getting lucky with a small deposit. Once you have began attempting to qualify your likely to keep on depositing until you made it despite the cost and losses

 

[Harry_BKK]

I'm finding it difficult just to meet the £500 wagering criteria despite several deposits these days too. I think it may be a bit too steep, and I don't want to have to deposit £250 just to qualify truth be told.

I do like a lot of what VS does with their structure but feel that say £50 -£100 worth of deposits in a calendar month ought to be enough, or at least create a way in which those that often lose out on freerolls get perhaps a 1-day entry or set number of goes, like ten or so.

Just a thought

FYI you have to wager €500 which is currently £426.

As for my AUD the threshold sits at 720AUD ....quite often 200AUD is not enough to achieve that. I haven't been playing many of them anyway, only started again the last few days since it is another week before i can fill up my gaming kitty again. Self-restriction after the marathon losses.

In my view you shouldn't chase that threshold as the results from the battles won't really give you huge wins. And it is getting tougher by the day to place in the TOP74 to get just 5FS as the battles are getting more popular and where months ago early morning battles would have maybe 100-150 players, you don't see now one with less than 250 decreasing the odds of getting to the top spots.

I see it more of a pastime when i don't want to deposit.

 

[spintee]

These battles are not free. I spent about £90 just in order to qualify for the week to prevent myself from depositing endlessly both at VS and elsewhere. What is just as annoying is the fact that I have only been placed inn 3 battles,two of those being 5 free spins. Yes I am feeling annoyed

I feel the pain, I not really moaning as they rarly get problems but I have qualified for the last few weeks, I have just been toping up etc and making deposits any time, Nether really calculate what I spend but was looking for a few free battles today due to shortage and nothing Waiting on payments from sites

 

[SlotGrinder]

I feel like the freerolls aren't weighted correctly because players who easily wager 500 in a week mostly aren't very interested in playing freerolls which usually give you nothing or 5 fs at 10p or 20p . Either make the freerolls juicier or lower the WR imo

 

[Harry_BKK]

I have not even factored in the £40 cashback I spent as well. I too have £1 credit. They are not free and should not be considered as such by the casino

How's that famous saying: "There is no such thing as a free lunch."

That applies even more to casinos. Never ever chase a "freebie" at a casino because you end up paying much more you would have thought.

But i agree, the medium-high rollers won't have an issue qualifying and if they don't, they get a "free" weekend pass. ... not saying it is a negative, just describing how reality is.

The odd 5 or 10 FS should only be seen as a little extra, not something that you chase with deposits in the hundreds as you'll never make up the loss with those few FS.

I qualified continously ever since they launched the battles bar 3 times where i received then the said "free pass" and until today managed ONCE a withdrawal from battle FS thanks to a 5 scatter hit on "you know which slot" at 0.27$.
However, I probably got some 12 - 15 hours of ultra low rolling playtime over the last year.

So is it worth it overall? I would be very inclined to say "NO". Take the opportunity when you qualify anyway but don't chase that threshold.

 

[geordiecolin]

How's that famous saying: "There is no such thing as a free lunch."

That applies even more to casinos. Never ever chase a "freebie" at a casino because you end up paying much more you would have thought.

But i agree, the medium-high rollers won't have an issue qualifying and if they don't they get a "free" weekend pass. ... not saying it is a negative, just describing how reality is.

The odd 5 or 10 FS should only be seen as a little extra, not something that you chase with deposits in the hundreds as you'll never make up the loss with thise few FS.

I qualified continously ever since they launched the battles bar 3 times were i received then the said "free pass" and until today managed ONCE a withdrawal from battle FS thanks to a 5 scatter hit on "you know which slot" at 0.27$.
However, I probably got some 12 - 15 hours of ultra low rolling playtime over the last year.

So is it worth it overall? I would be very inclined to say "NO". Take the opportunity when you qualify anyway but don't chase that threshold.

Yet Videoslots view and refer to the battles as being free,as such they absolve themselves of any responsibility when things go wrong.

I would suggest that many folk stay loyal to Videoslots because of the full package that they offer,which includes the free rolls. They are not free at all. They are factored into their financial considerations

 

[Harry_BKK]

Yet Videoslots view and refer to the battles as being free,as such they absolve themselves of any responsibility when things go wrong.

I would suggest that many folk stay loyal to Videoslots because of the full package that they offer,which includes the free rolls. They are not free at all. They are factored into their financial considerations

Well, they are free in such that you don't get charged an entry fee contrary to the paid battles.... LOL

So the wording is not all wrong but i agree they are factored into their overall player package.

 

[goatwack]

VS' battles are the most 'paid for' type of free I've ever seen! I agree that they're lopsided in favour of highrollers who wouldn't break a sweat qualifying for them, yet contribute enough into the system to make them available in the first place.

On occasion VS will chuck in a freeroll ticket in for free, so it's not all bad. Bear in mind that it takes near enough three days of continous battles just to attain a handful of spins, and even then you have to be lucky with them!

Reminds me of this thread in fact

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...-beer-or-gratis-as-in-you-buy-the-beer.76857/

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi all,

Our tech guys are still looking into this issue, and we are sorry for this inconvenience we have with our Battles today.

I think your feedback is great regarding our Battles and I know we are looking to do some changes and improvements to our Battles this year, and I will bring your comments to the table when we have the next discussion.

Happy new year all and I hope I will have more news regarding our current issue soon.

Br,

Daniel

 

[Adriana B]

Thanks Dan. We always appreciate how you are always on top of your game. So, my issue with this is it costs me approx $750 worth of wagering. I get to participate for maybe a week. A day has been down the drain. I understand problems happen and will definitely turn a blind eye to this. I just hope it gets resolved asap.

Happy New Year to you as well Dan. You and Melvin are my two favorite reps so you will always get a mulligan from me!

 

[geordiecolin]

Thanks Dan. We always appreciate how you are always on top of your game. So, my issue with this is it costs me approx $750 worth of wagering. I get to participate for maybe a week. A day has been down the drain. I understand problems happen and will definitely turn a blind eye to this. I just hope it gets resolved asap.

Happy New Year to you as well Dan. You and Melvin are my two favorite reps so you will always get a mulligan from me!

What is a Mulligan? I'm not giving Dan one!

 

[Adriana B]

Ah Geordie. I understand.

A mulligan is basically used in golfing terms giving the person a second chance at replaying a stroke.

Anyway, the fact that Dan responds to these posts on New Years Day late at night does deserve a mulligan at best. And, lest us not forget he is not the man responsible for this disappointment. I am just as pissed off as you. Believe me. I am trying really hard not to deposit anywhere and would not have had to make that choice if the freerolls were on. Thank Christ I cancelled my account at Rizk or it would have been there.

 

[geordiecolin]

Ah Geordie. I understand.

A mulligan is basically used in golfing terms giving the person a second chance at replaying a stroke.

Anyway, the fact that Dan responds to these posts on New Years Day late at night does deserve a mulligan at best. And, lest us not forget he is not the man responsible for this disappointment. I am just as pissed off as you. Believe me. I am trying really hard not to deposit anywhere and would not have had to make that choice if the freerolls were on. Thank Christ I cancelled my account at Rizk or it would have been there.

I'm not about to give him a stroke either

 

[nikantw]

I am sure that after all is fixed again, some nice things are coming our way as a compensation, like 5 paid battle tickets or 50 free spins.

 

[geordiecolin]

I am sure that after all is fixed again, some nice things are coming our way as a compensation, like 5 paid battle tickets or 50 free spins.

It didn't happen last time so I doubt it. "They are free"

 

[SlotGrinder]

Yes the casino race , cashback and freerolls are in place of bonuses rly . I virtually never play at other casinos without some sort of deposit bonus or freespins . Having superfast cashouts also helps . But the fact is the race is good for lowrollers mainly since it's easy to get a £5-£20 award but you need to do a hell of a lot of spins to gte more than that. Cashback is equal for everyone. The freerolls are not rly good for lowrollers because the wagering is too high and they're not good for mid-highrollers because the freeroll prizes are too low

 

[Adriana B]

I am sure that after all is fixed again, some nice things are coming our way as a compensation, like 5 paid battle tickets or 50 free spins.

Ha ha. Hope you are right but I really doubt it.

Did they do this on purpose? Really makes me think that is what happened. A day of not giving out any free spins equals huge savings for them.

Happy New Year Videoslots

 

[spintee]

There should be a deposit gets you in the free rolls for 24hrs,

deposit x amount or wager x amount gets you 7 days

deposit 3 times a week than a ticket into a speical free roll,


I know its not as easy as said to implement but I believe with the right strategy they can become huge, Give away more 1 euro tickets, You can not rebuy with them and will get players on the rolls. when people are waiting they will deposit and play
Get more free rolls on the move, This will bring more to the site and tourneys and also Keep them of other sites, When I say free I mean for people that deposit etc.

Not only is VS at the very top of casino sites but with the right tournament set outs it can be crazy, They must have alot of stuff built in now as normally running well so its about getting the right set up.

 

[nikantw]

Yes the casino race , cashback and freerolls are in place of bonuses rly

Exactly. Not compensating for lost battles would be like deciding not to pay cashback or race prizes one week because "it is free".
VS is way better than that. Only rogue ones would do it.

 

[interlog]

I can't see nor would I expect Videoslots compensating for the missing battles due to some technical problems.

It would be akin to Rizk compensating for laggy spins and game errors and because of that players missing out on double speeding up on a level or even normally progressing through the levels to trigger the next spin of the wheel. Didn't see that being asked in the Rizk topic.

 

[nikantw]

Guy walks outside a shoe store and sees a really nice pair with price tag "free". Asks the owner of the store that is standing on the door:
"Can I have this nice pair of shoes for free?"
"Sure you can! But in order to let you enter the store you need to buy a ticket for 50 bucks. With that you can enter inside, stay as long as you like, have a nice cup of tea or coffee and some cookies, or just take the shoes and leave."
Guy pays the 50 bucks and enters the store, enjoys a cup of tea and then asks for the free shoes.
"Let me see..... I am really sorry, just gave the last pair, but I have a new order coming tomorrow and if you want I will hold a pair for you."
Guy disappointed agrees and turns to leave. The owner of the store strikes him as a honest person and a smart businessman, so he definitely can see and expects him NOT to ask for another 50 bucks for a ticket to enter the store tomorrow!

 

[Harry_BKK]

It is very funny that we can waste 100's or even 1,000's a month on slots without the blink of an eye but get all worked up because of 5FS @ 10 cents which in the utmost cases lead the "0.00" winnings or if we are very lucky it might be 10 or 20FS with maybe 1$ in winnings.

I put these kind of things in perspective and look at the overall package. The same goes for the Wheel of Rizk. Can somebody here tell a story where he/she won big with the spoils from the Wheel of Rizk? I mean from those 5 or 10FS you get 99.9% of the time. I know there were 2 people to hit the Jackpot on the wheel but that is 2 in 1 whole year!!! I went through 235 levels in 11 months at Rizk and never came even close to that jackpot nor achieved any substantial winnings from the few FS.

The reason VS will stay my main gaming hangout is the total package i get from them and since i am very much a "no-bonus preferred" player it is really the best place to play. I had in 2016 nearly $4,000 in race winnings/cashback, that is about 30% of my overall losses at VS and it is all wager free!!! No other casino comes close to that, actually they are all miles off since what you get at other casinos is always --> wager 30, 40, 50x before you can cash out.

On top go the battles, the extras from Kenny and all special promos like the battle marathons.

Last but not least and just as important --> i get paid in minutes 24/7/365!!

Show me one place with a similar package!!! There is NONE.

I haven't opened a new casino account since February 2016, which was Rizk, and have no plans nor interest whatsoever to open one any time soon.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Here are my results from the last 4 days of "Free Battles" --> 1x 5FS + 1x 10FS ...total winnings $0.57

 

[nikantw]

get all worked up because of 5FS @ 10 cents

Like you said, it costs nothing for them, so why not apologize with a few extra battle tickets? It will cost them nothing and it will make customers happy and loyal.
I get worked up when something is so simple, cost free, excellent PR and yet escapes someones imagination.

For someone that qualified with his monthly budget of 22, 80 battles are like 22 free.
For someone that qualified with a dep of 100, 80 battles are what he paid for.

Will they make something out of 5 of them? Probably not. But 80% of customers decisions are based on emotion.
You will lose customers because you didn't make a simple gesture that costs nothing.

Let me tell you a personal story:
I had an obviously wealthy customer 10 years ago. I made a good impression, he paid 1000 and was happy about it, and he would be back with friends for more.
But I made a mistake and charged him 27 less. My boss had me call him 4-5 times until he would return to the store and pay the 27.
He returned very annoyed. Was the 27 important to us or him? Not really.
My boss was out of business in a couple of years.

 

[Pyroska]

Here are my results from the last 4 days of "Free Battles" --> 1x 5FS + 1x 10FS ...total winnings $0.57

View attachment 74373

This kinda sums up my whole 2016.

 

[Harry_BKK]

This kinda sums up my whole 2016.

Tell me about it.

Don't wanna get started on that one, wouldn't fit into 10 pages on CM

 

[geordiecolin]

Here are my results from the last 4 days of "Free Battles" --> 1x 5FS + 1x 10FS ...total winnings $0.57

View attachment 74373

This sums up my whole 2017

 

[nikantw]

Just talked to chat. Confirmed that VS doesn't get it that for many players free battles are just like cashback and race money.
So they will not replace the missing battles.

Perhaps, when this goes south for them (it will if they apply same tactic to other matters), I can apply for a position in their marketing team and fix it

Not the same thing, but I remembered another casino that was the best one out there.
They decided to cut down from the player overall experience until it would cost them. It did cost them.
And now they are giving 100 fs, among other things, trying to repair the damage.

 

[b3b44]

just came across this trophie

 

[SlotGrinder]

Here are my results from the last 4 days of "Free Battles" --> 1x 5FS + 1x 10FS ...total winnings $0.57

View attachment 74373

You need to up your battle game sir . Poor performances there I'm afraid

But it's like the recent warlords freeroll weekends (or santa 24 hours) . 1 freeroll awards 15 fs . 10 players . That means you get 1.5 fs per battle on average . It's tough to manage to get 10 battles in an hour - I never managed it . But even at 10 battles an hour thats 15 fs / hr which at 15p per fs comes to a whopping £2.25 of fs per hour . Yet people will happily spend hours and hours reging them in the middle of the night . Because it's free ! I did it myself too obv

At least these freerolls can potentially award 100 fs . Yes we know we mostly get zero or 5 fs but at least there's a chance to get lucky . I once won the 240 fs winner takes all in twinspin

 

[geordiecolin]

Just talked to chat. Confirmed that VS doesn't get it that for many players free battles are just like cashback and race money.
So they will not replace the missing battles.

Perhaps, when this goes south for them (it will if they apply same tactic to other matters), I can apply for a position in their marketing team and fix it

Not the same thing, but I remembered another casino that was the best one out there.
They decided to cut down from the player overall experience until it would cost them. It did cost them.
And now they are giving 100 fs, among other things, trying to repair the damage.

One thing that I think is for sure and that is that most people who play the free rolls do believe that they pay for them and that they are part of the package of depositing.
But which is more important. What depositors think,or what the casino thinks?

 

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hi all,

I hope you all have had a great first Monday of the year.

I have read all your feedback, and I can confirm that there was an issue that got solved in the last second but it didn't help much sadly. I am confident that we will make something in the near future to make sure that everyone feels that we do care about our players/costumers.


Have a great evening all.

Br,

Daniel

 

[geordiecolin]

Hi all,

I hope you all have had a great first Monday of the year.

I have read all your feedback, and I can confirm that there was an issue that got solved in the last second but it didn't help much sadly. I am confident that we will make something in the near future to make sure that everyone feels that we do care about our players/costumers.


Have a great evening all.

Br,

Daniel

Solved in the last second? The battles resumed exactly at the time that they had been set at and that had been on display all of yesterday. If you read the comments from your customers in the battles since they resumed you will notice the resounding belief that yesterdays battles where pulled to save money. ( I had absolutely no input in those conversations)

 

[interlog]

Solved in the last second? The battles resumed exactly at the time that they had been set at and that had been on display all of yesterday. If you read the comments from your customers in the battles since they resumed you will notice the resounding belief that yesterdays battles where pulled to save money. ( I had absolutely no input in those conversations)

And why would they do that? Talk about conspiracy theory rather than just accept it was a technical glitch.

 

[colinsunderland]

And why would they do that? Talk about conspiracy theory rather than just accept it was a technical glitch.

I agree, but do think anyone qualified should have an extra day added to the qualification for free rolls, and I wasn't affected so not talking through my pocket

 

[geordiecolin]

And why would they do that? Talk about conspiracy theory rather than just accept it was a technical glitch.

Because it very conveniently was resolved just before the 1215 Battle's sign up began. As advertised. Those players comments are there if Dan wished to visit them

 

[interlog]

I agree, but do think anyone qualified should have an extra day added to the qualification for free rolls, and I wasn't affected so not talking through my pocket

I wouldn't say no to that idea though I haven't been affected either as I haven't played the free roll battles recently due to work commitments.

But maybe don't apply it to the conspiracy theorists.

 

[Tirilej]

I agree, but do think anyone qualified should have an extra day added to the qualification for free rolls, and I wasn't affected so not talking through my pocket

That would have felt fair since yesterday was my last day to take part, and I won't play there for sometime.
I accept that it was a glitch and I do understand it definately wasn't on purpose, but still...
I can live without them though, but it's so typical

 

[Harry_BKK]

You need to up your battle game sir . Poor performances there I'm afraid

But it's like the recent warlords freeroll weekends (or santa 24 hours) . 1 freeroll awards 15 fs . 10 players . That means you get 1.5 fs per battle on average . It's tough to manage to get 10 battles in an hour - I never managed it . But even at 10 battles an hour thats 15 fs / hr which at 15p per fs comes to a whopping £2.25 of fs per hour . Yet people will happily spend hours and hours reging them in the middle of the night . Because it's free ! I did it myself too obv

At least these freerolls can potentially award 100 fs . Yes we know we mostly get zero or 5 fs but at least there's a chance to get lucky . I once won the 240 fs winner takes all in twinspin

Oh, that screenshot is one of the better ones. .....I am a total disgrace when it comes to battles. My target is meanwhile to just get 50% of those in the top 10 and even there i fail 90% of the time.

As for those marathons, i was very active in the first 2, Motorhead and Warlord and amassed....hold your breath...a whopping 120 spins or thereabouts....yet playing them down was as always a total disappointment leaving me with just a few bucks as winnings.

The last battle i won was the 12:15 battle for 750FS on The Invisible Man some 3 weeks ago. Got 75FS and managed a whopping $3.51 in winnings!

 

[geordiecolin]

Oh, that screenshot is one of the better ones. .....I am a total disgrace when it comes to battles. My target is meanwhile to just get 50% of those in the top 10 and even there i fail 90% of the time.

As for those marathons, i was very active in the first 2, Motorhead and Warlord and amassed....hold you breath...a whopping 120 spins or thereabouts....yet playing them down was as always a total disappointment leaving me with just a few bucks as winnings.

The last battle i won was the 12:15 battle for 750FS on The Invisible Man some 3 weeks ago. Got 75FS and managed a whopping $3.51 in winnings!

I calculate that when I get to half way through my battle spins that whatever position I am in then I halve as an aim for where I will finish. So after 50 spins I am in 120th spot then I hope to finish in 60th or so. It's in no way scientific,but more often than not it works out about right for me.

 

[Harry_BKK]

I calculate that when I get to half way through my battle spins that whatever position I am in then I halve as an aim for where I will finish. So after 50 spins I am in 120th spot then I hope to finish in 60th or so. It's in no way scientific,but more often than not it works out about right for me.

I am rarely, and i mean very rarely, anywhere close to 200th place by the time 50 spins are gone, maybe in the early morning battles when i play them right at the start.....so applying your method would mean i hardly ever finish in the TOP100 ... which is actually indeed the case!

 

[geordiecolin]

I am rarely, and i mean very rarely, anywhere close to 200th place by the time 50 spins are gone, maybe in the early morning battles when i play them right at the start.....so applying your method would mean i hardly ever finish in the TOP100 ... which is actually indeed the case!

What is harsh is when you reach half way in 30th place,finish in 15th only to have been one of only 60 to of completed their spins. An hour later you have to scroll right down to find your position

 

[Harry_BKK]

What is harsh is when you reach half way in 30th place,finish in 15th only to have been one of only 60 to of completed their spins. An hour later you have to scroll right down to find your position

Oh yes......meanwhile i just close the whole page without logging-out. When i go then back after the battle is over it will show either 1 or 2 new messages in the bottom right corner ........ 1 means --> loser ...... 2 --> you got free spins. :yahoo:

Never check where i ended, reason --> see my screenshot....just too depressing.

 

[geordiecolin]

Oh yes......meanwhile i just close the whole page without logging-out. When i go then back after the battle is over it will show either 1 or 2 new messages in the bottom right corner ........ 1 means --> loser ...... 2 --> you got free spins. :yahoo:

Never check where i ended, reason --> see my screenshot....just too depressing.

After reading the above I checked in to VS to be meet by this

You won 286th prize in 500 Freespins - Freezeout, great!

Yeah,fecking great

 

[Harry_BKK]

After reading the above I checked in to VS to be meet by this

You won 286th prize in 500 Freespins - Freezeout, great!

Yeah,fecking great

you see what i mean

 

[geordiecolin]

you see what i mean

View attachment 74407

But at the time of completing your free spins where you in about 102nd place?

 

[Harry_BKK]

But at the time of completing your free spins where you in about 102nd place?

Not this time Colin.... ended around 150ish and final ranking was 266th from 392

 

[lockinlove]

I might stop playing the freeroll battles. They put me on super tilt. I rarely hit anything on videoslots in money games but always hit in freerolls. Even my freespins I never hit on.

But yeah alot of freerolls I get 100x 200x 700x...etc

play 10 million money game spins and get no wins. Play 1000 spins in battles and got 15 billion 500x

I call mega rigged