Official Videoslots presents Battle of Slots!

[Itaghai]

This is fair enough and very generous, a lot more than most casinos give out, not to mention wager free.

It looks more than what it actually is when you put it into perspective.

400k spins, we know that each battle will return rewards between 4 and 6 spins.
So, an average of 5 spins per reward.

The 400k spins come out as 80k rewards, if you have 2000 players it averages at 40 rewards per player.
if we average the things out, those 40 rewards are about 200 FS per player in an average of 0.15$/£/€, which is a 30$/£/€ worth of spins for hours and hours wasted in battles.

Most of the players when redeeming will not make close to the 30$/£/€ value and most likely will just spend the earnings into the casino anyway.

So, IMO, the current state of BW isn't that great, you can get the same value in other casinos with fewer requirements and within a couple of minutes instead of hours of boredom

 

[anddi32]

We still gave out roughly 400,000 Freespins during that weekend only in battle weekend promo.

What is this supposed to say? How many spins have been given out two months ago with 8mins and 30% chance? I can calculate that much, that the current BW system cuts about 70% from the player if you compare it to the former format. 48h with new format and we talk about 40-50% off.

So i can only guess what kind of amounts the casino has distributed before the cuts. We are talking about completely different numbers

 

[thisismatteh]

The new 250fs 'freerolls' are brutal as well. Ended up recently with 550x total score and still didn't get a single reward lol. Yikes.

 

[pinnit2014]

It looks more than what it actually is when you put it into perspective.

400k spins, we know that each battle will return rewards between 4 and 6 spins.
So, an average of 5 spins per reward.

The 400k spins come out as 80k rewards, if you have 2000 players it averages at 40 rewards per player.
if we average the things out, those 40 rewards are about 200 FS per player in an average of 0.15$/£/€, which is a 30$/£/€ worth of spins for hours and hours wasted in battles.

Most of the players when redeeming will not make close to the 30$/£/€ value and most likely will just spend the earnings into the casino anyway.

So, IMO, the current state of BW isn't that great, you can get the same value in other casinos with fewer requirements and within a couple of minutes instead of hours of boredom

Choice of slots and hit rates/volatility definitely play a part in the £30 average, or not as it usually is.

Touched upon it at the end - I used to enjoy, or at least not be fussed, about playing for hours and hours. As time goes on, time needed for other things, hobbies, the desire to sit and click on battles (on games i don't like/enjoy) waned and waned - personally, i'd take a deposit spin offer, bonus offering, over it (even though it's not wager free) just so i can have more play time and run at larger stakes (rather than10c tripe) - and it eats about 10% of the time. I get why people like wager free freebies but when they're £3.56 for 4 hours, i'd rather not.

Regardless, companies rarely, when they go down this route, revert so suppose if you don't like it, move on. No one's holding a gun to your head

 

[Itaghai]

so suppose if you don't like it, move on. No one's holding a gun to your head

Almost there, tomorrow is the last day I meet the requirements
Although, I'm just doing the ticket battles and the 1500/2500 fs battles.
All those 250/500 fs are just a waste of time.

 

[pinnit2014]

Almost there, tomorrow is the last day I meet the requirements
Although, I'm just doing the ticket battles and the 1500/2500 fs battles.
All those 250/500 fs are just a waste of time.

Didn't mean 'you' in that way, just meant in general to people

 

[YouTubeSlots]

When my xp runs out soon, there is not a single cell in my body that would make me want to ever grind for the xp ever again.

 

[pinnit2014]

When my xp runs out soon, there is not a single cell in my body that would make me want to ever grind for the xp ever again.

Battle Tickets....get ur first Spin battle by 7pm...what's not great about that

Personally i'm a big fan of Mr V's £25 Freerolls

 

[Team.Videoslots]

Hi Everyone,

Here are the details for tonight’s Epic Thursdays’ Battles on Book of Dead from Play'n GO and Almighty Multipop Super Symbols from RAW iGaming.

Battle Details:

• Date: Thursday 4th July 2024
• Times: 18:00 - 22:00 GMT
• Battle Type: Sit & Go Freerolls
• Game Names:
• 15-man Battles: Book of Dead (Play'n GO) €0.10
• 30-man Battles: Almighty Multipop Super Symbols (RAW iGaming) €0.20
• Max number of players per Battle: 15 & 30
• Spin: 25 Spins
• Duration per Battle: 12 minutes
• Prize Structure on 15-man Battle: 1st Place: 6 Extra Spins, 2nd Place: 5 Extra Spins, 3rd Place: 4 Extra Spins. Extra spins are wager-free.
• Prize Structure on 30-man Battle: 1st-2nd Place: 6 Extra Spins, 3rd-4th Place: 5 Extra spins, 5th-6th Place: 4 Extra Spins. Extra spins are wager-free.
• Requirements: To participate you need to have deposited €20 or more and collected 1000XP in the last 30 calendar days before the start of these Battles.

You can find out more information including T&C's by clicking here.

Good luck!

Kind regards,
Team Videoslots

 

[Lemon]

Another idea which has been (sort of) mentioned in a way. Could we not scrap all Sng and MTT free rolls and just have the Battle Weekend with 10/30 man, 8 Mins and 30% prize structure?

Yeah great idea - let's have absolutely nothing for players throughout the entire month, and then consolidate the entire promotions budget into one big free-for-all that many customers might not want or be able to participate in.

I'd go one better and scrap all promotions and free-rolls, and just send Jono777 50 Wheels every Friday along with his Weekend Booster.

 

[Mr Wild]

What is this supposed to say? How many spins have been given out two months ago with 8mins and 30% chance? I can calculate that much, that the current BW system cuts about 70% from the player if you compare it to the former format. 48h with new format and we talk about 40-50% off.

So i can only guess what kind of amounts the casino has distributed before the cuts. We are talking about completely different numbers

Yes before it was more of course, but even then there was complaints.

 

[Jono777]

Yeah great idea - let's have absolutely nothing for players throughout the entire month, and then consolidate the entire promotions budget into one big free-for-all that many customers might not want or be able to participate in.

I'd go one better and scrap all promotions and free-rolls, and just send Jono777 50 Wheels every Friday along with his Weekend Booster.

You have absolutely no idea what sort of person I am, hence your somewhat ridiculous post.

You paint a picture that I am a freebie hunter (or borderline one) who expects to deposit £10/£20 and get free spins, wheels everyday among other things.

Many others here at CM will back up the fact here that is far from the case.

Granted my budget is small but as I said before it does ALL GO TO VS.

I come up with IDEAS not EXPECTATIONS, again backed up by others here, evidenced by the positive reactions to my said ideas.

90% of VS players are moaning (to be expected with cut backs, it is after all HUMAN NATURE) I am simply trying to find some middle ground, some compromise and a more positive way forward for both VS and their player base (granted more so the low rollers as that is what I am)

Again, most have said that SnG, MTT's and more recently even the revamped BW are a waste of time and pointless, it is also evidenced that it is no longer the great retention tool it once was by the amount who've mentioned moving on altogether or "if I have the XP, great, if I don't so what"

My idea was simply to have something REALLY GOOD to look forward to at the end of each month rather than all these leftover 'scraps' It would not be a "free for all" if it was revisited completely and this could be done by increasing the XP required along with a larger deposit throughout the month, say £100 total instead of the £20 they currently ask for.

In closing for what it is worth, just to let you know, the majority of the now defunct Mystery Friday and Mystery Monday events were ideas put forward by me to Mr. Wild and implemented and appreciated by the membership here

 

[pinnit2014]

I can vouch that Jono's not a freebie hunter, for nothing:

When in fact, he actually dances for rewards if you ask him nicely

Just make sure it's before 10pm as that's his bedtime

 

[Jono777]

I can vouch that Jono's not a freebie hunter, for nothing:

When in fact, he actually dances for rewards if you ask him nicely

Just make sure it's before 10pm as that's his bedtime

Oi, Oi, Oi - it's 10.30 these days lol

 

[Pixie]

4 hours of Battle : 7 rewards = € 0.78 ! Battles are so bad now !!!

 

[YouTubeSlots]

4 hours of Battle : 7 rewards = € 0.78 ! Battles are so bad now !!!

13 rewards. = £1.00

yes 1 pound.

Cant wait for my XP to run out....

 

[Jono777]

4 rewards - £1.25 (thanks to a line of 10's on BoD, otherwise 0.25p)

Living the dream!

 

[itsme123]

We still gave out roughly 400,000 Freespins during that weekend only in battle weekend promo.

@Mr Wild didnt you post earlier in this thread that on some BW's you were giving away 1,000,000 free spins? If thats the case your changes have led to a 60% reduction in player rewards for BW alone.
Maybe you missed my earlier post where I asked how this has helped your player retention? Can you give any indication on how you are keeping players with the main rewards decimated?

 

[Damo]

Well its been emotional guys but thats me out! No point playing at VS any more so i have self excluded
I will stick around here for the craic and still play other places but VS is not somewhere i will be visiting.

 

[Itaghai]

Well its been emotional guys but thats me out! No point playing at VS any more so i have self excluded
I will stick around here for the craic and still play other places but VS is not somewhere i will be visiting.

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I didn't self-exclude but my xp finally run out.

I think quite a few people were waiting for their xp run out as well.
During the next week or two probably there will be a noticable change in the enrolled players in the battles.

For those who will stay, good luck to you all, meanwhile, I'm NOT touching another raw slot ever again

 

[Kalnad]

Lowering the chance of getting rewards completely ruined any fun to be had. Always looked forward to the friday Mr Vegas event as I would get a good amount of rewards and now I barely get any.

 

[Stiller113]

Crap sites both mrvegas and videoslots. The battles are a real joke 0 chance to win anything.

 

[pinnit2014]

Lowering the chance of getting rewards completely ruined any fun to be had. Always looked forward to the friday Mr Vegas event as I would get a good amount of rewards and now I barely get any.

When Mr V's Fridays started off they were excellent - they then changed the format and also the number of spins offered so you went from about 70 FS to 5FS, a lot of the time. When they set up initially, obviously just to attract people, their 10 quid rebuys were decent value as well - low initial numbers meant you could get your money back with 100% RTP. Used to get bored redeeming 50c tickets as so many of them, now hard to even get one

Needed to find some money to sponsor the Darts and West Brom

 

[Pixie]

It would be great to know if they are going to make more changes!

 

[YouTubeSlots]

It would be great to know if they are going to make more changes!

More shit changes you say?

Why of course!

Watch this space!

 

[itsme123]

@Mr Wild didnt you post earlier in this thread that on some BW's you were giving away 1,000,000 free spins? If thats the case your changes have led to a 60% reduction in player rewards for BW alone.
Maybe you missed my earlier post where I asked how this has helped your player retention? Can you give any indication on how you are keeping players with the main rewards decimated?

@Mr Wild just in case you missed this one, I will draw your attention to it again. I it a 60% reduction in the number of spins handed out?

 

[Jono777]

Frenzy Mondays - usually 20+ rewards to redeem the following morning
Tuesday Madness €15K added- Often a prize, even if just about £10
Epic Thursdays - Good games, usually 15+ rewards
Mystery Fridays - Some really good events (even if I do say so myself ) again 15+ rewards
Battle Weekend - Plenty of sleep and breaks from computer and STILL 100ish rewards to play come Monday

Christmas Day 2023 event, simply awesome and a true show of appreciating your players.

Oh the good old days - Sadly the saying "All good things...." really applies here.

Such a shame. Maybe they'll see what's happening and reverse in some cases their actions, quite probably the same day I quit smoking and moaning.

 

[paul7388]

Frenzy Mondays - usually 20+ rewards to redeem the following morning
Tuesday Madness €15K added- Often a prize, even if just about £10
Epic Thursdays - Good games, usually 15+ rewards
Mystery Fridays - Some really good events (even if I do say so myself ) again 15+ rewards
Battle Weekend - Plenty of sleep and breaks from computer and STILL 100ish rewards to play come Monday

Christmas Day 2023 event, simply awesome and a true show of appreciating your players.

Oh the good old days - Sadly the saying "All good things...." really applies here.

Such a shame. Maybe they'll see what's happening and reverse in some cases their actions, quite probably the same day I quit smoking and moaning.

Exactly they used to give loads ages ago.

But I do remember saying to you before it was not sustainable. Look at the battle weekends they used to have. Basically players could make a good bit, play a while and get their XP up for a month and be qualified again and still make a withdrawal giving them free access to all the monthly promotions that were good at the time for basically nothing.

The cutbacks made now make the battles pointless. But no way could they have continued In the same format. Just surprised it took so long as I could never understand how they managed it.

Guess now people have the choice, keep playing at VS because they like the site or play elsewhere for better offers or just play without offers at a site with better RTP.

Players that spend a lot at VS will now be happier as they can now play without worrying the site will crash non stop every time battles are running. Must have cost a fortune in lost revenue when players could continually not deposit and play.

As for battles now I can not understand why anyone would play them. Even if a player was just looking to have fun and not caring if they won or not the whole idea now is pointless. Why anyone out would now play battles that have 12 minutes between them , possible queues and very slim chance of even getting a reward with a decent score beats me.

 

[Team.Videoslots]

Hi everyone,

Here’s the information about today’s ongoing Tuesday Madness Battle on Rise of Olympus 100 from Play'n GO which continues until 23:59 GMT with an added prize pool of €5,000.

Battle Details:

• Date: Tuesday 9th July 2024
• Times: 00:01 - 23:59 GMT
• Game: Rise of Olympus 100 (Play'n GO) €0.20
• Buy-In: €1.00
• Spins: 100 Spins
• Added Prize Pool: €5,000 which will increase with every €1 buy-in. Prizes are wager-free.
• Requirements: To be able to participate, players need to have deposited at least €20 and earned 1,000XP in the last 30 days before the start of this Battle.

You can find out more information including T&C's by clicking here.

Good luck!

Kind regards,
Team Videoslots

 

[Team.Videoslots]

Hi Everyone,

Here are the details for tonight’s Epic Thursdays’ Battles on Lucky McGee & The Rainbow Treasure from RAW iGaming and The Hand of Midas from Pragmatic Play.

Battle Details:

• Date: Thursday 11th July 2024
• Times: 18:00 - 22:00 GMT
• Battle Type: Sit & Go Freerolls
• Game Names:
• 15-man Battles: Lucky McGee & The Rainbow Treasure (RAW iGaming) €0.10
• 30-man Battles: The Hand of Midas (Pragmatic Play) €0.20
• Max number of players per Battle: 15 & 30
• Spin: 25 Spins
• Duration per Battle: 12 minutes
• Prize Structure on 15-man Battle: 1st Place: 6 Extra Spins, 2nd Place: 5 Extra Spins, 3rd Place: 4 Extra Spins. Extra spins are wager-free.
• Prize Structure on 30-man Battle: 1st-2nd Place: 6 Extra Spins, 3rd-4th Place: 5 Extra spins, 5th-6th Place: 4 Extra Spins. Extra spins are wager-free.
• Requirements: To participate you need to have deposited €20 or more and collected 1000XP in the last 30 calendar days before the start of these Battles.

You can find out more information including T&C's by clicking here.

Good luck!

Kind regards,
Team Videoslots

 

[itsme123]

Yes, but battle still give out more FS than Clashes. Just a battle weekend we give out around 1million Free Spins. So would have little effect doing any changes to Clashes...

I knew I had seen the 1 million spins on a BW quoted by @Mr Wild , so VS have reduced the free spins handed out by 60% in the first month of the new BW reduced hours and reduced places. Pretty brutal IMHO and no wonder @Mr Wild ignored my question to him on this....
@Mr Wild would you care to comment now on this removal of player rewards?

 

[kulli]

why my withdrawals pending again? @Team.Videoslots

 

[Jono777]

I knew I had seen the 1 million spins on a BW quoted by @Mr Wild , so VS have reduced the free spins handed out by 60% in the first month of the new BW reduced hours and reduced places. Pretty brutal IMHO and no wonder @Mr Wild ignored my question to him on this....
@Mr Wild would you care to comment now on this removal of player rewards?

Just a thought but you may need to tag Mr Wild another couple of times, he may not see this

 

[Team.Videoslots]

why my withdrawals pending again? @Team.Videoslots

Hi @kulli ,

I've just sent you a private message regarding this matter.

Kind Regards,
Team Videoslots

 

[itsme123]

Just a thought but you may need to tag Mr Wild another couple of times, he may not see this

Well they say god loves a trier and if I keep trying and tagging @Mr Wild he might actually tell all the VS customers on here that have had their rewards removed how removing 60% is in any way a good incentive to keep playing to get the 1000 XP points…..

 

[itsme123]

Well they say god loves a trier and if I keep trying and tagging @Mr Wild he might actually tell all the VS customers on here that have had their rewards removed how removing 60% is in any way a good incentive to keep playing to get the 1000 XP points…..

Just in case you missed this one @Mr Wild as I have been asking the same question for 3 weeks and I am sure you wouldnt just ignore the question...... how does it feel for VS to shred their BW customer rewards by 60%???

 

[dave1888]

Madness now €5 with no announcement?! Very good @Team.Videoslots far too high. Should be max €2 unless the pools increased.

 

[xexe]

Madness now €5 with no announcement?! Very good @Team.Videoslots far too high. Should be max €2 unless the pools increased.

But they did announce it earlier in the thread, people were requesting an increased fee to make the prize pool bigger; they specifically asked about €5 and people agreed. The entrance fees go into the prize pools anyway, so you're not losing anything & they're not gaining anything by this.

 

[dave1888]

But they did announce it earlier in the thread, people were requesting an increased fee to make the prize pool bigger; they specifically asked about €5 and people agreed. The entrance fees go into the prize pools anyway, so you're not losing anything & they're not gaining anything by this.

But if folk are put off by it then it wont increase bad decision imho and really annoying because now €1 tickets are rendered useless..

 

[dave1888]

Why request increased fees? most weeks youll be lucky to even place!

 

[Jono777]

I thought we agreed €2 not a massive leap to €5

 

[dave1888]

I thought we agreed €2 not a massive leap to €5

Yeah €2-3 is reasonable €5s pretty steep!

 

[PCJACKPOT2008]

Not trying to offend but if you can't afford one €5 buy-in a week, you probably shouldn't play online casinos anyway.

 

[DreamRJ]

Vote with your wallet and stop playing in their brands! This is just again another example of the greed taking over and not caring about their customers. STOP PLAYING HERE!

 

[Jono777]

Not trying to offend but if you can't afford one €5 buy-in a week, you probably shouldn't play online casinos anyway.

It's not about not being able to afford it.

Let's say on a week, I have a £40 budget, which for example I decide to deposit this, £10 Monday, £10 Wednesday and £20 for after work on a Friday.

This £40 is already considered lost before I make a single spin and it can comfortably be afforded.

However £5 out of any of those deposits is a sizeable portion. Nor would I deposit the whole budget in one go, buying in and leaving £35 to play with, hitting a real unlucky session and then have nothing to do later in that week.

€2 which is double the original price seemed to be the most popular option when this was first discussed and is far more sensible and although obviously not as much, would still provide increased prizes.

 

[anddi32]

Not trying to offend but if you can't afford one €5 buy-in a week, you probably shouldn't play online casinos anyway.

Tuesday's original idea was that the casino offers a pot, players participate with a nominal buy in. Tuesday has been like cashback for the players. Now this idea has completely changed, the casino offers a third of the original, players are charged five times more. Of course, the pot may grow somewhat, but we've never seen 130 participant 5 hours before Tuesday battle starts. Predicts a total collapse in the number of players.

Another point is the tickets, until now the players have been able to pay Tuesday's payment if they have won a euro ticket from somewhere. In the future, this will no longer be possible, VS doesn't even make it possible to gamble a ticket from two to five.

Sure, fewer players know means a better chance of winning something. But if the number of participants remains below 1000 and still 600 prize places, this makes no sense. Of course, a large number of players have also lost their rights because VS no longer values its customers. But for those who still have the rights, it's worth watching how the battle progresses. In the best case, you get a risk-free buy-in

 

[Itaghai]

Vote with your wallet and stop playing in their brands! This is just again another example of the greed taking over and not caring about their customers. STOP PLAYING HERE!

I haven't deposited there since the 5th of June, when I noticed all those scheduled battles going down to 250 fs and they refused to merge a few so have better battles instead of more quantity.

Now, I just come here for the drama

 

[DreamRJ]

I haven't deposited there since the 5th of June, when I noticed all those scheduled battles going down to 250 fs and they refused to merge a few so have better battles instead of more quantity.

Now, I just come here for the drama

same

 

[Mr Wild]

Tuesday's original idea was that the casino offers a pot, players participate with a nominal buy in. Tuesday has been like cashback for the players. Now this idea has completely changed, the casino offers a third of the original, players are charged five times more. Of course, the pot may grow somewhat, but we've never seen 130 participant 5 hours before Tuesday battle starts. Predicts a total collapse in the number of players.

Another point is the tickets, until now the players have been able to pay Tuesday's payment if they have won a euro ticket from somewhere. In the future, this will no longer be possible, VS doesn't even make it possible to gamble a ticket from two to five.

Sure, fewer players know means a better chance of winning something. But if the number of participants remains below 1000 and still 600 prize places, this makes no sense. Of course, a large number of players have also lost their rights because VS no longer values its customers. But for those who still have the rights, it's worth watching how the battle progresses. In the best case, you get a risk-free buy-in

We got a request to try to increase it to 5 eur here at CM. We agreed to try it. If it dont work out we can try another amount.

 

[Mr Wild]

It's not about not being able to afford it.

Let's say on a week, I have a £40 budget, which for example I decide to deposit this, £10 Monday, £10 Wednesday and £20 for after work on a Friday.

This £40 is already considered lost before I make a single spin and it can comfortably be afforded.

However £5 out of any of those deposits is a sizeable portion. Nor would I deposit the whole budget in one go, buying in and leaving £35 to play with, hitting a real unlucky session and then have nothing to do later in that week.

€2 which is double the original price seemed to be the most popular option when this was first discussed and is far more sensible and although obviously not as much, would still provide increased prizes.

Postive thing with the increase is there will be a lot less players and a bigger chance to win something decent. But I do get your point of view. We might test it €2 next week. Lets see.