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Hi everyone,
As we have announced before, we will offer all our games at 94 - 95% as soon as they become available to us. We dont find it sustainable to run a healthy business on higher levels with the recent changes that have happened to our industry the last few years. All our prices are available on several pages on our website e.g. on our Game Payout page or in the game itself.
We do not communicate prices per game on e-mail, news or any other communication channel.
You can also follow your own RTP at Videoslots on our myRTP page.
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Team Videoslots
As we have announced before, we will offer all our games at 94 - 95% as soon as they become available to us. We dont find it sustainable to run a healthy business on higher levels with the recent changes that have happened to our industry the last few years. All our prices are available on several pages on our website e.g. on our Game Payout page or in the game itself.
We do not communicate prices per game on e-mail, news or any other communication channel.
You can also follow your own RTP at Videoslots on our myRTP page.
Best regards,
Team Videoslots
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Why don't you put a pop up on site saying the RTP has changed on a provider when you do so? Or should customers have to check every single game every single time they open them to make sure they haven't been reduced? You might have announced running lower RTP on forums, but I haven't seen any email or anything to the many many thousands of customers who don't use forums, so how would they know?
And yes, I know you don't HAVE to, but considering your reputation on here and history, I think you should, taking into account how loyal most members on here have been.
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Maybe i am comparing chalk and cheese but the reasoning compels me to do so.........
This looks fairly healthy to me.......
Kindred Group plc - Year end report January – December 2019 (unaudited) Gross winnings revenue amounted to GBP 236.2 (250.1) million for the fourth quarter of 2019, and GBP 912.8 (907.6) million for the full year 2019
Max RTP across all sites UK if im not mistaken.
Shame, as your reward system and information, service and payment methods are all stellar in my experience.
Well, the reward system used to be but not so much now.
Think the quality will shine through in the end. I find it hard to believe your business wouldnt be 'healthy' with max rtp across all providers.
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@Team.Videoslots The 2:15 Secret of the Stones battle is wrongly set to 10p per spin. Min spin on Stones is 25p.
Would be nice if this gets fixed quickly as it's a good battle!
Would be nice if this gets fixed quickly as it's a good battle!
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@Team.Videoslots we can´t play Secrets of the stones !!!
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Hybrid sites like Unibet, bet365, WillHill etc make about 80-90% profits with sports, the casino part is often less than 10%. Hence, you would need to read the full report where they have a breakdown for each vertical.
Not defending VS but the figures from those hybrid sites imply that there is not much flesh on the bone for pure casino sites.
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Totally agree, thought that when i posted it and afterwards thought 'what a tit' of myself.
To be honest though when i get given a reply about lowering rtp because they need to be a 'healthy' business all sensibility goes out the window and i treat stupid with stupid - Not my best trait and not becoming for resolution or intelligent discussion.
If companies want to make more money and become more profitable i do not have any issue. When they spout rubbish about it being a necessity of a healthy business it gets my back up because it gives the wrong impression.
Hence me comparing chalk and cheese.
If they said we want to be more profitable then there is not a lot to argue.
Anyway, the more i write the harder i am finding to justify my stupidity and you are correct it was a poor comparison
It hurts, but the blame is on us, the well informed players, for failing to inform the other players and failing to understand that the huge taxes are a huge problem.
Most casinos would offer >97% versions if they could, like they did in the good old days.
Most casinos would offer >97% versions if they could, like they did in the good old days.
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I thought videoslots had a sportsbook they could use now though?
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AFAIK, it's being prepared for launch, they've signed a deal with BetRadar recently. However, in the current situation they might wait a little longer before going live.
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Totally agree, thought that when i posted it and afterwards thought 'what a tit' of myself.
To be honest though when i get given a reply about lowering rtp because they need to be a 'healthy' business all sensibility goes out the window and i treat stupid with stupid - Not my best trait and not becoming for resolution or intelligent discussion.
If companies want to make more money and become more profitable i do not have any issue. When they spout rubbish about it being a necessity of a healthy business it gets my back up because it gives the wrong impression.
Hence me comparing chalk and cheese.
If they said we want to be more profitable then there is not a lot to argue.
Anyway, the more i write the harder i am finding to justify my stupidity and you are correct it was a poor comparison
No worries, because I wasn't 100% correct either.
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AFAIK, it's being prepared for launch, they've signed a deal with BetRadar recently. However, in the current situation they might wait a little longer before going live.
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What are peoples thoughts for the Next battle weekend choice of slots? DOA, well same old same old. Nothing new to see here. As for Twin spin, I reckon at the now reduced RTP's IT will certainly suck for us all. I reckon it was not a very good choice. I suppose we will have to wait and see what scores will be like during the battles and be extra lucky with the rewards for it.
I hazard a guess that our wins from the Twin spin rewards will be around 40% Average from all rewards collected. So meaning a RTP of around 40% which will suck a lot. So it will mean we will be lucky to earn around £30-£40 from them. Unless you get that lucky spin and get a full screen of one of the royals...... Which I doubt will happen from the rewards, but who knows
I hazard a guess that our wins from the Twin spin rewards will be around 40% Average from all rewards collected. So meaning a RTP of around 40% which will suck a lot. So it will mean we will be lucky to earn around £30-£40 from them. Unless you get that lucky spin and get a full screen of one of the royals...... Which I doubt will happen from the rewards, but who knows
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What are peoples thoughts for the Next battle weekend choice of slots? DOA, well same old same old. Nothing new to see here. As for Twin spin, I reckon at the now reduced RTP's IT will certainly suck for us all. I reckon it was not a very good choice. I suppose we will have to wait and see what scores will be like during the battles and be extra lucky with the rewards for it.
I hazard a guess that our wins from the Twin spin rewards will be around 40% Average from all rewards collected. So meaning a RTP of around 40% which will suck a lot. So it will mean we will be lucky to earn around £30-£40 from them. Unless you get that lucky spin and get a full screen of one of the royals...... Which I doubt will happen from the rewards, but who knows
Simply put the battles do not attract me anymore.
Glad DOA is in there because its the only thing with any serious potential. Twin spin i have never had much luck on and the reduced rtp just puts me off.
As people have rightly said. We do not know if the lower versions have reduced potential for bonuses or variance or both. It might be the same game but none of my experience and know how counts anymore playing a lower paying version.
The battles are all low rtp rewards. The Jackpot chase is a bloody long one for me. Tuesday Madness is my only glimmer of light. £500 freerolls are swamped so less chance there.
Purely for information and sharing, my last 3 green reward wheels have been tripe (cant really complain about the wheels myself though) Once the battle weekends become Red Tiger and PnG low paying porn that will finish me off.
I dont mind at the moment so much. Disappointed my VS love affair has ended bitterly but there is lots of choice at the minute for higher paying versions and rewards. The hunt for the best casino for the UK continues!
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Here's how the RTP change affects Twin Spin, the main difference are less Triplet Wins and thus significantly less wins of 800x bet or more, i.e. the Bar-Bar-3Bar-3Bar-3Bar configuration (pays 1,080x bet IIRC) will happen less frequently
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What are peoples thoughts for the Next battle weekend choice of slots? DOA, well same old same old. Nothing new to see here. As for Twin spin, I reckon at the now reduced RTP's IT will certainly suck for us all. I reckon it was not a very good choice. I suppose we will have to wait and see what scores will be like during the battles and be extra lucky with the rewards for it.
I hazard a guess that our wins from the Twin spin rewards will be around 40% Average from all rewards collected. So meaning a RTP of around 40% which will suck a lot. So it will mean we will be lucky to earn around £30-£40 from them. Unless you get that lucky spin and get a full screen of one of the royals...... Which I doubt will happen from the rewards, but who knows
One minor + for those partaking in the battles is that Twin Spin does not have a feature to sit thru / waiting for others so you may actually be able to take part in more battles, handful of extra rewards to make up for the drop in RTP, plus its a very rare 0.25p bet.
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Green Wheels? I always only get Blu Wheel spins...... I think I only ever had 1 green wheel spin ever
Obviously I get the Silver wheel spins every 5 levels too though But yeah, I do not really look forward to the battle weekends anymore either. They just do not feel the same, with the fact the slot choice is usually shite, plus the fact they no longer run those CM promos in this thread either anymore. The amount of cut backs VS have done just makes me cry. It is such a shame seeing such a great casino making all these cutbacks. The RTP reductions is just another bad move they have taken. But it looks like other casinos are also following suit in terms of also reducing the RTP''s too.
I just wished VS would go back to being a great casino again, picking great slots for the battle weekends and making things more worthwhile. I only got 2 more months to wait now until I can play at Sky Vegas again. As I said in the past, Sky Vegas used to be my number one casino too. I have missed it a lot.
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Perhaps, but we all know that does not mean anything. Take for example all those recent Thursday battles that have been on the Red tiger Power Reels slots. They too have no feature, and 90% of the 30man battles still resulted in us having to wait the full 10mins for it to end because most of the time there is always 1 or 2 people who never spin their spins
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Looks like the Thunderkick games are currently getting their RTP makeover now 
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Looks like the Thunderkick games are currently getting their RTP makeover now
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest
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Thats interesting stuff. Of course the max win capacity wont change. I thought it would be less towards the base game and i think this will be the trend for lower paying versions. The providers will still want the big wins seen on youtube. Bad news with less frequency in the base games for someone who plays like me. I would have preferred less from top end.
Good point. Forgot it was a 25p. I am grateful for what i have had from VS. I have definitely been blessed in that respect.
Some will some wont but the quality i say will still shine through. I wonder what the general opinion of PlaynGo and Red Tiger is for a casino player now. If they were high street i see them as poundland products, cheap and cheerful, certainly not waitrose. I hope my view of Netent doesnt go the same way. Certain casinos and casino groups will be known for better products due to competition.
If more and more people play the better sites the profits will go to them along with the bigger market share.
Looks like the Thunderkick games are currently getting their RTP makeover now
Its not April 1st again is it?
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I won't be battling. Fell below the threshold some two weeks ago and it will stay like that for some time.
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I have not had that pop up message in like a few years. I always qualify for the battles
I deposit on average in a month over £2000 though. More when I have some luck elsewhere, this can then mean I deposit thousands in a month, depends what my luck is like during that month. But usually my wagering is above 10,000 in 30 days.
For example I had some decent luck and had some sizable wins and withdrawals and it has meant I have managed to again be close to level 85 for my next silver wheel spin, only got 1800 left to wager to get the next wheel spin. I think that has only taken me about 6 weeks since my last level 80 wheel spin.
I deposit on average in a month over £2000 though. More when I have some luck elsewhere, this can then mean I deposit thousands in a month, depends what my luck is like during that month. But usually my wagering is above 10,000 in 30 days.
For example I had some decent luck and had some sizable wins and withdrawals and it has meant I have managed to again be close to level 85 for my next silver wheel spin, only got 1800 left to wager to get the next wheel spin. I think that has only taken me about 6 weeks since my last level 80 wheel spin.
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No no, you need the same or similar win rate (better called hit rate, because often the payout is less than your bet, so not a win really) at the low end as that induces the dopamine and adrenaline flow, which is a large part of why we are playing and a lot of people getting addicted.
If you have less wins at the low end, it loses the impression for players that they win something as you will have less often flashing lights and "big win" animations. And you need that often enough to keep players engaged.
Psychologically, IMO it is best to cut in the middle spectrum and keep the bottom and top parts the same.
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Ok, but why do you have Red Tiger slots at under 93% RTP then? Take Wild Hatter for example, 92,68% RTP at Videoslots, but the slot can be had with: Non Jackpot: 95.79%, 94.80%, 92.68%, 90.67%; With Jackpot: 94.70% + 1%, 92.67% + 1%-3%, 90.69% + 1%-5%, 90.14% + 1%-6%.
So you could have chosen 94,80% RTP Non jackpot version, or the 94,70% jackpot version.
I believe almost all Red Tiger slots come in RTP versions very similar to this, i could check but it takes hours to check every single game.
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Hi MrEvil,
With the current integration we have at Red Tiger, all games are pre-set RTP. We cant change it without making a new integration. When we did the integration last year, they didnt support 94%-95% RTP and we where not aware that this have changed, so we will look into it.
However, there will soon be a change with Red Tiger as we are deploying our private daily jackpots with their games. That will have a positive effect on the RTP. We dont have an ETA on it yet. But it will be launched together with an upgraded version of Battle of Slots with a new battle mode.
Best regards,
Team Videoslots
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@Videoslots Is there any chance of you reviewing the battle rewards given that the numbers playing now in each battle has gone up so much? It now takes more that 350% RTP to get a placing in the latest battle.
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To be fair and what it is worth, asking @Team.Videoslots to make changes will be a waste of time lol. 99% of all suggestions we make in this thread and the other VS newly accredited thread always either go un-answered or they just get a standard reply of thanks for the feedback we will pass it onto the relevant department............
It is funny when you think about it, most changes that do get suggested are implemented by the games department, Yet as we know it is the Games department who now are the reps on CM. So you would think that suggestions would more easily be able to be implemented, but that is not the case, because the games department have to ask the higher ups if they can make such changes first. So thus means those changes never happen as the higher ups always now say no.
Gone are the days When Dan would be able to implement or work his magic and make changes we suggested. VS have changed and that is a shame. I still play here and it is becoming harder for me to continue to do so in the current climate of all the cutbacks and RTP changes etc etc.
I will wait and see what this new Battle of slots upgrade will be like. I suspect it will be a worser version than the current version. I still also expect them at some point in the not so distant future to also get rid of the weekend booster. If they do go down that route, that I do feel will be the final nail in the coffin for many loyal customers...........
It is funny when you think about it, most changes that do get suggested are implemented by the games department, Yet as we know it is the Games department who now are the reps on CM. So you would think that suggestions would more easily be able to be implemented, but that is not the case, because the games department have to ask the higher ups if they can make such changes first. So thus means those changes never happen as the higher ups always now say no.
Gone are the days When Dan would be able to implement or work his magic and make changes we suggested. VS have changed and that is a shame. I still play here and it is becoming harder for me to continue to do so in the current climate of all the cutbacks and RTP changes etc etc.
I will wait and see what this new Battle of slots upgrade will be like. I suspect it will be a worser version than the current version. I still also expect them at some point in the not so distant future to also get rid of the weekend booster. If they do go down that route, that I do feel will be the final nail in the coffin for many loyal customers...........
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Mrs P's been playing for 7 days and not even a solitary 5 spins
(excluding the SNG)
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Mrs P's been playing for 7 days and not even a solitary 5 spins
I seldom even bother playing the freeroll battles every 4 hours now anyway because I never win anything in them anyway. I used to years ago win and place nicely in them, but the fact they have far to many players in each one of them now just makes it near impossible to place in them and get even 5 spins from them, the $500 one, again is just pretty pointless. They need to vastly increase them ones to perhaps $2500 total divided between the top 1000, or something.
Battles did used to be so much more worthwhile and you could easily be able to place in pretty much all freeroll battles, resulting in getting some spins multiple times a day, as it stands you are now lucky to even win 5 spins every 10 days or so on average.
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For months now I have approached each weekend knowing that I will be lucky to even win 5 spins from Friday evening through to sunday evening. Weekdays don't fair any better.Mrs P's been playing for 7 days and not even a solitary 5 spins
The thing is that most folk simply play their ( Much reduced) winnings back anyhow so its not as if it costs them too much
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To be fair I pointed out a huge increase in regular players a few years ago when the average per battle was about 600 and they did look at it and changed the amount of free spins in total in all battles.
So we never know
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But I also mentioned it too a long long time ago as well, they never implemented the changes or increased it when I did. They did respond though. I think Dan was still working for VS at that time too. So not everything we suggested to Dan did get implemented. But it has got worse the last year and a half. They just have made all those cutbacks. Which is evident and so easily noticeable to all those long time loyal customers.
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You also need to remember that massive culling of multiple accounts many months ago when VS cracked down on peoples accounts who was abusing the battle of slots by playing the battle weekends for the full 48 hours, or getting a friend to play when they slept on their account etc etc. I recall all of those threads people kept creating about it at the time.
I mean I agree VS did the right thing in those cases, but some of those people who had their accounts closed might have had sleep issues and hence was able to play the full 48 hours. But also those players also only deposited minimum amount needed to be able to qualify for the battles in the first place etc etc..... I am all for VS taking steps to stop abuses of the systems. But they also need to remember to take care of the loyal customers who deposited hundreds and thousands a month too.
I mean I agree VS did the right thing in those cases, but some of those people who had their accounts closed might have had sleep issues and hence was able to play the full 48 hours. But also those players also only deposited minimum amount needed to be able to qualify for the battles in the first place etc etc..... I am all for VS taking steps to stop abuses of the systems. But they also need to remember to take care of the loyal customers who deposited hundreds and thousands a month too.
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I can not be arsed to scroll through pages of this thread only to find its not even there so. What changes are they making to the battles and have they posted about it somewhere please?
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Can confirm for you both that Red Tiger do a mid range RTP on virtually all games with variable RTP.
Here are a few examples from the list:
| Dynamite Riches | 90.70 92.74 94.76 90.18 |
| Eagle Riches | 94.70 95.68 90.70 92.71 |
| Five Star | 90.11 91.14 93.24 |
| Five Star Power Reels | 91.08 93.13 95.16 96.06 |
| Fruit Blox | 90.04 91.08 93.19 95.06 |
| Fruit Snap | 90.67 92.68 94.68 95.75 |
| Golden Leprechaun Megaways | 90.71 92.76 94.72 95.72 |
| Jack In A Pot | 93.11 95.17 96.06 98.18 91.09 |
| Jack In A Pot | 90.15 91.10 93.13 95.13 |
I have the full list if you want to know the scope and range of the products you offer @Team.Videoslots ?
Then you could put them up to a mid range as you have suggested.
I imagine this integration you speak of is not that hard to implement seeing as it would be in all parties interests for it to be a stream lined process - just a guess.
Prefer you keep the RTP mid range without jackpots than introduce jackpots on a slightly higher RTP, personally.
We will be playing the same reduced version but with a not very good chance of landing a jackpot. I think the jackpots are provider wide across all casinos are they not?
Looking forward to see what the new battle mode is and whatever positive changes you bring to your site.
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I think that folk playing the battle weekends for 48 hours is very unhealthy but Videoslots can not on one hand take issues with it when they used to hold competitions to see who could obtain most rewards during these weekends
Edit. I think they where something like 4x £250 for the most rewards won
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Those prizes they also have for the 5 players each month from the battle weekend are just a price draw. IT is not the most players or most wins from a single player. It is just random raffle draw of all those who participated.
I did luckily win one of those raffle draws last year too. for around £215 ish I think I got for it. First and only ever time I won a raffle at VS too lol
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Please offer alternative battles for UK. Thunderkick is not working on Chrome or Firefox on either my laptop or my phone. This is unfair it must be due to ddos attacks messing up NYX. Both battles are thunderkick we can't play them.
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Thunderkick not been working on any Casino for me for around 3 days.
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You get a ticket for the draw for every battle you play tho.Those prizes they also have for the 5 players each month from the battle weekend are just a price draw. IT is not the most players or most wins from a single player. It is just random raffle draw of all those who participated.
I did luckily win one of those raffle draws last year too. for around £215 ish I think I got for it. First and only ever time I won a raffle at VS too lol
So more battles played = higher chance to win one the the prizes.
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They are working for me. However,there is over an hour to go in this battle going on right now and already over 2000 have taken part.
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Those prizes they also have for the 5 players each month from the battle weekend are just a price draw. IT is not the most players or most wins from a single player. It is just random raffle draw of all those who participated.
I did luckily win one of those raffle draws last year too. for around £215 ish I think I got for it. First and only ever time I won a raffle at VS too lol
I also won that raffle once, for €200. First and only raffle i ever won in my 25 years on the internet.
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I too am a raffle winner!
@Team.Videoslots I get an 'out of money' message in the Netent Fruit Shop battle even though its loaded with the battle money for some reason its doesnt seem to recognise im in a battle.......
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me too
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same issue here
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Thanks for reporting this. We cancelled the battle to investigate issue, new battle have been added "Mission Cash" - its running now.
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Is there a reason why theres only like 2-3 different games repeating for the €500 freerolls?
Not saying the games are bad, but a broader selection would be more fun.
There is like a million slots out there.
Is there a reason why theres only like 2-3 different games repeating for the €500 freerolls?
Not saying the games are bad, but a broader selection would be more fun.
There is like a million slots out there.
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