Victor Chandler and World Games Inc.??

mary

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On Worldgame's own site you can see the list of countries in which it is illegal, and that list gets longer.

Singapore was added relatively recently.

Like the "Airplane Game" and "Prosperity Parties", it is a scam. It can only be sustained as long as new members join; since the levels are exponential it doesn't take long to run out of recruits. Then the last folks in are out of money.
 

jyde

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Contrary to what you posted above you do not need to play in the casino it is optional and you have to submit the option to earn from the casino, default is set to not earning from your downline play due to the fact that a lot of people are of religions that do not allow gambling.
Did I post contrary? IF you want a cut of the casino profit you NEED to play - and of course members will lose more than they earn in commission - since the profit comes from members pockets.
 

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jyde said:
You're selling onlinegambling "products" right? Gambling on negative expectation games - right? If noone lost - what is the point with WGI.

MLM is about selling PRODUCTS. Until the casino opened your main product was more memberships and SMG - with SMG being perfect to help feed the pyramid.

I checked out wgibroker site. It is scary stuff.
"70% of your money earned from the point based commission is paid into your account and can be withdrawn anytime, while the remaining 30% has to be re-invested into the Stock Market Game. This ensures a constant pressure on the stock market with an increasing demand for shares and at the same time an increase in your stock portfolio. "

In other words, the "stock" price is only maintained by the demand created by the scheme that part of the commission has to be used to buy stock, there is no product, current or future income stream behind it. It is strangely reminiscent of the dotcom boom, as long as the stock price is going up, there will be plenty of suckers buying it in the hope of selling it later for even more. We don't have to worry about profits, this is a new paradigm.

As an aside, I would like an explanation of this sentence:
"25% of the cash based commission is paid to the member who creates it, 25% is paid to the member's Sponsor and 50% is paid to the member's upline (based upon a mathematical Bezier curve)."
I actually know what a Bezier curve is and I don't see how it can be used in this situation. Is it possible that someone thought it was a good sounding phrase that nobody would understand?
 

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The wgibroker site conveniently stopped updating the shareprize in December 2003. Mummiez.com gives you more recent details. In February they removed the guaranteed minimumprice and in March they did a 1 to 1 conversion from CHF to EUR :lolup:
 
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jyde

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Still no pressrelease from any of the parties involved.

After what I've heard there'll be a link from WGI to Victor Chandler - so WGI-customers will be running on the normal Victor Chandler sportsbook. I wonder what the huge WGI staff is doing - can't be doing much development. They claim they have a staff of 300 people - 180 of them are IT-developers.

Supposedly they'll launch "their" sportsbook on June 8 - which btw. is the day after the leader of WGI stands trial in Australia. The email below has been posted in several forums over the last few days

"My name is Sergeant Karen Suchar of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Canada) and I am one of two primary police members assigned to investigate the operation of World Games Inc. in Alberta, Canada. As a result of overwhelming requests for information on this organization, we have chosen to disseminate the following information out of a moral and public responsibility. It is our belief and that of the Attorney General of Alberta that World Games Inc. is operating an ILLEGAL Pyramid Scheme in addition to promoting an ILLEGAL lottery. Following our investigation, criminal charges were laid in September of 2003 against seven Albertans as well as one Australian for contraventions of the Criminal Code.

In addition, World Games Inc. and Greg Kennedy have been charged in by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission and will stand trial June 7, 2004 for Pyramid Selling offences in accordance with their Trade Practices Act.

A conviction was also registered in March against a Swedish WGI member for promoting an illegal lottery in association with World Games Inc. It is also our information that Scandinavian Police investigations are continuing. Should you wish to review the details of our investigation and other criminal convictions and charges around the globe, I urge you to view the attached Word documents. If we can be of any further assistance to you, please feel free to contact us directly. I have also included an internet link to the official website of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police which provides information regarding Pyramid Schemes."

Sergeant Karen Suchar (RCMP)

Detective Bob Keys (Calgary Police Service)

Gaming Investigations

1 403 292 7313

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APOLOGY TO WORLD PLAY LTD, HARROFORD DEVELOPMENTS LTD AND GREG KENNEDY

An article on our website recently about online gaming referred to World Play Ltd, Harroford Developments Ltd, Greg Kennedy and the web site worldgamesinc.com.

It has been pointed out that readers may have understood the article to mean that those companies and Mr Kennedy are under police investigation by Queensland and international police, and that Mr Kennedy is facing fraud charges before the Southport Magistrates Court. This is untrue.

We have now confirmed that there are no charges against or investigations of any of them pending with the Queensland police or the police in Sweden. The reference in the article to two Gold Coast businessmen expected to appear in Court this year on multiple charges was not a reference to Mr Kennedy.

The article may also have been interpreted as suggesting that World Play Limited, Harroford Developments and Mr Kennedy have defrauded investors of hundreds of thousands of dollars and that their operations are illegal. These allegations are denied, and we have no reliable evidence of any such wrongdoing.

We reiterate that World Play denies that there are any sums outstanding to any members outside World Plays normal trading terms.

We apologize to World Play, Harroford Developments and Mr Greg Kennedy for the distress, embarrassment and damage caused to them by the article
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This message that you are spreading around has been brought to the attention of WGI, the RCMP, the Calgary police and the Alberta Gaming Commission. I will post here when I have all their responses as well as their denials that this message was posted by any agent from any of the agencies I listed above.
 

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An article on our website recently about online
What website was this apology posted on? The Royal Canadian Mounted Police still refer to World Games as a pyramid scam:
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jyde said:
What website was this apology posted on? The Royal Canadian Mounted Police still refer to World Games as a pyramid scam:
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It is true that there have been 8 people charged by the Alberta Gaming and Lottery Commission, however it is expected that the charges will be dropped. We operate out of Ontario and have been assured by the government bodies here that what we are doing is within the legal guidelines of the Ontario Gaming legislation. Each province has their own rules and regulations regarding lotteries and gambling and Alberta is extremely strict. The charges are for violation of the gambling laws and are disguised by the Calgary division of the RCMP and other authorities in that province as operating as a pyramid scheme to make them seem more serious than they are. What it all comes down to is money. The government has control over the lottery system, and someone offering a lottery that they cannot have a piece of is very frustrating to them. Because the lottery is bought from the internet, from the ILLF which is located in Liechtenstein, the buyer is actually going to Liechtenstein to purchase the ticket. It is not in violation of the law in Alberta, and the charges will be dismissed in court. The apology that I posted was in regards to the charges filed against Gred Kennedy and the parent company of World Games inc. This rumor has been circulating the internet for years since WGI was introduced. It is not true, and it has been posted many times on other gambling portals that it is not true. All one has to do is contact the authorities in Australia and inquire. I am waiting to receive a formal response from the authorities as well as from WGI and I will post everything here when I receive it, along with all links to all articles, retractions, and apologies.
 

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Black21Jack said:
It is true that there have been 8 people charged by the Alberta Gaming and Lottery Commission, however it is expected that the charges will be dropped. We operate out of Ontario and have been assured by the government bodies here that what we are doing is within the legal guidelines of the Ontario Gaming legislation. Each province has their own rules and regulations regarding lotteries and gambling and Alberta is extremely strict. The charges are for violation of the gambling laws and are disguised by the Calgary division of the RCMP and other authorities in that province as operating as a pyramid scheme to make them seem more serious than they are.

But it IS a pyramid scheme. Wasn't that already established earlier in this thread??
 

jyde

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Sure - the Canadian police warned against the pyramid scam AND the illegal lottery in WGI.
 

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Black21Jack said:
It is true that there have been 8 people charged by the Alberta Gaming and Lottery Commission, however it is expected that the charges will be dropped. We operate out of Ontario and have been assured by the government bodies here that what we are doing is within the legal guidelines of the Ontario Gaming legislation. Each province has their own rules and regulations regarding lotteries and gambling and Alberta is extremely strict. The charges are for violation of the gambling laws and are disguised by the Calgary division of the RCMP and other authorities in that province as operating as a pyramid scheme to make them seem more serious than they are. What it all comes down to is money. The government has control over the lottery system, and someone offering a lottery that they cannot have a piece of is very frustrating to them. Because the lottery is bought from the internet, from the ILLF which is located in Liechtenstein, the buyer is actually going to Liechtenstein to purchase the ticket. It is not in violation of the law in Alberta, and the charges will be dismissed in court. The apology that I posted was in regards to the charges filed against Gred Kennedy and the parent company of World Games inc. This rumor has been circulating the internet for years since WGI was introduced. It is not true, and it has been posted many times on other gambling portals that it is not true. All one has to do is contact the authorities in Australia and inquire. I am waiting to receive a formal response from the authorities as well as from WGI and I will post everything here when I receive it, along with all links to all articles, retractions, and apologies.

Those are pretty serious aspersions to cast on the RCMP, BJ21 - it seems to me that the matter must be one of some gravity if the RCMP are posting warnings such as the one from Sgt. Suchar and the website Jyde linked us to earlier.

I look forward to your posting the other side of the story nevertheless.
 

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(first post incidently)

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about as it seems to be prety behind-the-scenes stuff. But I was wondering, can anyone vouch for Victor Chandler Casino? I was planing on doing a sizable deposit there, but I don't want to get burned like my Casino 1x2 experience. Has anyone gone through the motions of receiving bonuses, clearing, and getting paid.

Thanks.
 

jyde

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Comparing Chandler and 1x2 is an insult to Chandler :) You can trust Chandler.
 

jyde

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Despite Black21jacks claims WGI/World Play/Kennedy is on todays courtlist in Brisbane

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Justice Finn - Court: 2 (Level 7)
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Australian Competition and Consumer Commission -v-
Worldplay Services Pty Ltd & Anor
Q186/03


This was posted in a Norwegian forum (someone contacted ACCC):

Thank you for your email of 2 June 2004 to the Australian Competition & Consumer Commission (the ACCC) regarding regarding legal action commenced by the ACCC against Worldplay Services Pty Ltd and Mr Greg James Kennedy ("the Respondents").

The ACCC has instituted legal proceedings in the Federal Court of Australia in Brisbane against the respondents alleging that Worldplay Services Pty Ltd, a company based on the Gold Coast, and Mr Kennedy, engaged in conduct in connection with the Internet site www.worldgamesinc.com which constitutes pyramid and/or referral selling, in contravention of sections 65AAC and 57 of the Trade Practices Act. Trial is scheduled to commence on 7 June 2004.

Thank you for contacting the ACCC and I hope that the above information is of assistance.

Yours sincerely,

Davin
ACCC Infocentre
 
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Black21Jack

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Again jyde you are totally wrong in your accusations. The court listing did not include Mr. Greg Kennedy, but did include World Play Ltd. You base all of your so called "facts" and information on what you have been reading on the internet and various forums. I have been in contact with the RCMP, AGLC, and Calgary Police and it was confirmed that the letter posted previous was a letter sent out by Karen Suchar of the RCMP to people who were inquiring about WGI. However I have also been in contact with WGI and have received the following statement. This is the last that I will be posting on this matter, on advice of WGI, and there will be legal action taken against anyone making slanderous comments and accusations based on false information that will in any way effect the business of WGI in a negative way. This statment gives explantion to all of the matters that you have posted as well as the slanderous letter being distributed by Karen Suchar of the RCMP:

Dear WGI Member


Thank you for your enquiry.



We have received numerous enquiries raising concerns about a letter from Sergeant Karen Suchar of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Canada). We echo your concerns and agree that such correspondence is unacceptable where to date, there has not yet been even a trial in respect of this matter.



We can confirm, as you would already be aware, in September 2003 the Alberta Gaming & Liquor Commission commenced criminal proceedings against seven (7) members of WGI and WGIs former President of Global Operations, Mr Quentin George. The proceedings are essentially that those accused were involved in the management and promotion of an illegal lottery and pyramid scheme. The matter is set down for trial on 27 November 2004. The WGI members the subjects of the proceedings have now been formally charged (Mr Quentin George has not been charged). Whilst the matter seems destined to go to trial, WGI is very pleased with the progress of the matter and the preparation of the trial lawyers. Based on the Lawyers first round of interviews, it seems that the members charged will enjoy the support of over twenty witnesses. These witnesses have been described by the lawyers as substantial members of the community and include police officers and Alberta Gaming Commission employees!



Despite the above, WGI is concerned that this latest information has allegedly come from two members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and notes the letter clearly presumes guilt of the members involved. We agree that the phrase innocent until proven guilty appears to have been all but ignored and certainly the implications (and factual inaccuracies) contained in Sergeant Suchars letter, are extremely damaging to World Games Inc operations where her letter contains rash generalisations and blurs the line between fact and fiction.



Further, the fact that a trial in this matter is still pending, means that such publications from representatives of Canadas own law enforcement body will severely prejudice any hearing of the matter in Canada and we expect that this issue will be raised with the Canadian Authorities. WGI and our lawyers in Canada will also be carrying out their own investigations into the legitimacy of the letter, as neither our organisation nor our lawyers in Canada have ever been approached or contacted by Sergeant Suchar or Detective Bob Keys in respect of this matter. As soon as we are able to determine the source of this letter, we will consult with our lawyers as to the further actions available to WGI in ensuring that its reputation is not tarnished by such blatant and prejudicial tactics.



Whilst it has been WGIs policy to date, following legal advice, to refrain from making any comments regarding litigious matters whilst the matters are before the courts, the prejudicial and damaging comments contained in Sergeant Suchars letter warrant some comment. To clarify the specific issues raised in Sergeant Suchars letter, our comments (in bold blue) are as follows:



THE EMAIL SAYS: It is our belief and that of the Attorney General of Alberta that World Games Inc. is operating an ILLEGAL Pyramid Scheme in addition to promoting an ILLEGAL lottery. Following our investigation, criminal charges were laid in September of 2003 against seven Albertans as well as one Australian for contraventions of the Criminal Code.
OUR RESPONSE: We have taken legal advice in Canada and we are very confident that WGI is NOT operating an illegal pyramid scheme, nor promoting an illegal lottery in Canada and we look forward to being provided with the opportunity to defend this matter at trial (if the Canadian authorities proceed with the matter). Again, WGI has taken legal advice and WGI remains firmly of the view that the charges will be absolutely and successfully defended and WGI is in fact funding the defence of the members concerned.



THE EMAIL SAYS: In addition, World Games Inc. and Greg Kennedy have been charged in Australia by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission and will stand trial June 7, 2004 for Pyramid Selling offences in accordance with their Trade Practices Act.
OUR RESPONSE: This information is incorrect World Games Inc has not been charged with any offence in Australia whatsoever. The charges have been laid against an entity that provides limited administrative services to the business, known as World Play Services and WGI remains confident that the proceedings are misconceived and their effect has mostly been misreported as they are not against WGI. The fact that the membership of WGI is not open to Australian residents and access to the site is blocked to Australian computers is something that has been overlooked in many reports. It is also very important to note that no-one has been charged at all in Australia the proceedings against World Play Services are not criminal proceedings.



THE EMAIL SAYS: A conviction was also registered in March against a Swedish WGI member for promoting an illegal lottery in association with World Games Inc. It is also our information that Scandinavian Police investigations are continuing.
OUR RESPONSE: On 31 March a Swedish woman was convicted for offences in relation to her promotion of WGI. The decision was not against WGI and WGI took no part in the proceedings. Indeed, WGI determined as early as September 2002 (when the charges were first laid) that it would not provide any support to this member on the basis that it was her conduct, in breach of the WGI Policies & Procedures that led to the charges. The Swedish court effectively confirmed WGIs position, finding that the womans method of promotion and various misrepresentations gave rise to the charges. WGI considers that the true nature of the decision (ie. a decision against a rogue member and not at all a decision against WGI) is appreciated by the majority of members and that the case has not had any significant impact on member confidence.



THE EMAIL SAYS: Should you wish to review the details of our investigation and other criminal convictions and charges around the globe, I urge you to view the attached Word documents. If we can be of any further assistance to you, please feel free to contact us directly. I have also included an internet link to the official website of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police which provides information regarding Pyramid Schemes.
OUR RESPONSE: As you will note from the information above, The Word documents attached to the letter contain statements which are both incorrect and out of date and have not been provided with any authority or information as to who has created these documents. Also, the mere inference (in providing a link to the Canadian Police website topic about pyramid schemes) that WGI is conducting a pyramid scheme, is a complete misrepresentation and totally prejudicial in its inference to WGIs business and the Canadian proceedings currently on foot.



Finally, we note that the materials provided by Sergeant Suchar are targeted against the WGI business and its purported illegal operations (despite the absence of any charges against the operating company in any country). A common theme throughout this documentation is that WGI is a pyramid scheme because the only way you can make money is by recruiting others. THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE. It is clearly stated in the WGI Policies and Procedures that it is possible to use the WGI products and services without recruiting anyone and still be able to win money. The multi-level marketing option available is only for those who want it, and in fact most users of WGI products do not participate with the multi-level marketing aspects, but instead prefer just to PLAY and HAVE FUN!!!



WGI will be thoroughly investigating its rights and legal options available to it to prevent further distribution of such materials and obtain sanctions against the police officers involved. WGI will continue to strive to ensure that risks posed by these matters are minimised and will keep you informed of any developments.



Kind Regards



WGI Press Enquiries
 

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I also need to add that the following quote can be found at the RCMP Pyramid website Old / Expired Link

The RCMP does not provide opinions as to the legalities of business operations. It recommends instead that those who want an opinion on a particular company seek one from the Canadian Competition Bureau and/or a law firm specializing in business practices.

Karen Suchar of the RCMP includes this link in the email that she is circulating which totally contradicts the purpose of her email as well as the information in her email where she states the following:

My name is Sergeant Karen Suchar of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (Canada) and I am one of two primary police members assigned to investigate the operation of World Games Inc. in Alberta, Canada. As a result of overwhelming requests for information on this organization, we have chosen to disseminate the following information out of a moral and public responsibility. It is our belief and that of the Attorney General of Alberta that World Games Inc. is operating an ILLEGAL Pyramid Scheme.

So let's just do what they suggest on the RCMP Pyramid website and visit the Canadian Competition Bureau's site on MLM and Pyramids at Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) if you are not in WGI you cannot comment on whether the aspects of WGI follow the 6 rules that are spelled out in the Canadian Competition Bureaus guidlines for MLM businesses operating in Canada. You can ask any member that is in WGI, or any legislative body from the Canadian government that is involved whether WGI operates under the regulations and is classified as a legal business according to the Competition Bureau. I can verify that WGI follows completely all the rules and regulations of the competiton act of Canada, and like I said in a previous post the only province that has had a problem with the operations of WGI is Alberta, and as I said in that post it is financially driven and will be dismissed in the courts. I also said in that post that there is no problems with the Canadian Competition Bureau, WGI has verified this before commencing business operations in Canada, which makes Karen Suchar's accusations baseless and in total contradiction of what they say on their official website that they do not make opinions or get involved, and that it is up to the Competition Bureau to make the decision, at which point the RCMP will enforce the decision. Because the Competition Bureau has given the go ahead on WGI and has allowed WGI to operate its MLM business in Canada the RCMP has no grounds to lay charges, or to spread these accusations.

THE END
 
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jetset

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Just a hopefully unprovocative question - has anyone from WGI actually phoned Sergeant Suchar or her sidekick - there was a phone number provided on the email.
 

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jetset said:
Just a hopefully unprovocative question - has anyone from WGI actually phoned Sergeant Suchar or her sidekick - there was a phone number provided on the email.

I have contacted both parties and left messages but the calls were not returned. They did however get back by email and confirmed the email was posted by them. they failed to answer the questions on why they would post that which contradicts the RCMP's stance on such matters, as well as the fact that they posted information about Mr. Greg kennedy being charged in Australia as fact, and that WGI is operating as a pyramid as fact. It has been verified by WGI that there are no charges against Greg Kennedy, just World Play which is a independent company that does some admin work for WGI, and the charges in Alberta are pending so I do not know how they can justify there accusations. I did say previous that I would not post on the subject anymore, however I keep coming up with more false information posted by jyde and I will stop when all is covered. The next matter is the letter posted by an agent of the ACCC which states that Greg kennedy has been charged in Australia, this has been shown to be false and not even asscoiated with WGI, as well as the court document listing World Play, and World Play only as being in court, not Greg Kennedy. The ACCC has been contacted and I will post when I receive a response. As stated by WGI, World Games Inc. has never been charged, never been in a court proceeding. Only members have been charged and therefore the statements by the RCMP that WGI is operating an illegal pyramid and lottery is false. They have not charged WGI. They will have their day in court and it will be dealt with at that time.
 

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Black21Jack said:
...As stated by WGI, World Games Inc. has never been charged, never been in a court proceeding. Only members have been charged and therefore the statements by the RCMP that WGI is operating an illegal pyramid and lottery is false. They have not charged WGI. They will have their day in court and it will be dealt with at that time.

Could you clarify the relevance of this distinction to players?

It seems to me that whether or not Enron was charged, or the officers of Enron, with fraud made no difference in the end. The investors were out their money.

If the owners/operators of WGI are charged with operating a pyramid scheme--or illegal gambling--and they are enjoined form continuing to operate any further--bank accounts frozen--unable to sell the business--the players and investors are stuck with no way to get paid and no way to recoup losses.

This happens before proof of guilt, incidentally, in many cases agencies have the power to freeze operations during the course of investigation.

To say that WGI hasn't been charged is just sophistry. The important point is that players' funds are in hazard. They can play somewhere else without these problems.

Nor does it matter whether this is fair or not. It's life. Companies get charged with crimes. The principals of this company are charged with crimes in multiple jurisdictions. Players have the right to know this. Deal with it.
 
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Black21Jack

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mary said:
Could you clarify the relevance of this distinction to players?

It seems to me that whether or not Enron was charged, or the officers of Enron, with fraud made no difference in the end. The investors were out their money.

If the owners/operators of WGI are charged with operating a pyramid scheme--or illegal gambling--and they are enjoined form continuing to operate any further--bank accounts frozen--unable to sell the business--the players and investors are stuck with no way to get paid and no way to recoup losses.

This happens before proof of guilt, incidentally, in many cases agencies have the power to freeze operations during the course of investigation.

To say that WGI hasn't been charged is just sophistry. The important point is that players' funds are in hazard. They can play somewhere else without these problems.

You obviously do not understand what has happened. The owners/operators and the company has not been charged anywhere in the world including Canada. It was independent distributors who were charged, no one from the company. I am a member, and I am an independent distributor. When you become a member you are not an employee of WGI, you are an independent distributor of the products and services and are responsible for making sure that you follow the law in promoting and selling the products and services. WGI has a policies and procedures document that spells out what can and cannot be done. The people that were charged in Alberta did not breach any of the policies and procedures and that is why WGI is funding their legal defence and giving them any assistance that may be needed. Lets look at it like this. If you were to become an affiliate for Intercasino for example, and you lived in a country where online gambling is considered illegal and decided to do some advertising and promotion for the casino. You decide to take out an ad in the local newspaper for the online casino, and maybe even put some flyers out to homes and on cars. This would be considered illegal in your country and if caught you would be charged for it. The casino did not breach any laws, the casino is not being charged, the affiliate is being charged with no association to the casino. But lets say that the local authorities decide to post on the internet as well as in emails to people that the casino is operating an illegal casino operation, is promoting an illegal casino operaation in the country where you live. That is what happened with the charges laid in Alberta. Independent members were operating their business by selling the products and services of WGI. Karen Suchar and her cohorts have decided to post that WGI has been charged, and that they are operating an illegal pyramid, this is before any court case for the independent distributors has even commenced. As far as players being able to play at the casino, this has nothing to do with it, the casino will not close down, the company will not close down, it has nothing to do with the corporation World Games Inc.
 

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While reading this thread, I was reminded of the saying: There are none so blind, as those who will not see.
 

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mary said:
Nor does it matter whether this is fair or not. It's life. Companies get charged with crimes. The principals of this company are charged with crimes in multiple jurisdictions. Players have the right to know this. Deal with it.

It has nothing to do with being fair or not fair. It has to do with false slanderous information being spread by people that know nothing about WGI because they have not done enough research, and by the regulatory authorities which makes it even worse. I know its life, companies do get charged. The charges laid on the independent distributors will be dealt with in a court of law. In this case no companies have been charged, WGI has not been charged in any of the jurisdictions the operate in, contrary to what you state above, the company is not under investigation for any wrong doings. Players have the right to know the facts, you deal with it, and as long as people like you post false information I will post to show when you are wrong and when you may be right.
 

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Black21Jack said:
Two weeks ago the stock was at 0.04 Euro at which time I dumped an additional 5000 Euro in, today it is currently rising and is at 0.20 Euro, you do the math. A lot of people are also making a living with day trading the stock. Just look at the numbers I gave you, and no it is not BS, I can show proof to anyone who contests it. :D

Just a little side note, I sold those 125,000 shares I secured at 0.04 Euro each the day after I posted the above when it hit 0.21 Euro for a nice little profit of 21,250 Euro minus the 10% brokerage fee to WGI making a total profit of 18,625 in a couple of weeks (18,625 Euro works out to approx. $29,800 in my home currency of Canadian Dollars). Not too bad eh. If people are not making money by participating in the MLM they are making a substantial amount by trading the stock, a lot of people are making a good living with the MLM business and also hold substantial amounts of stock. I cant wait until the casino is open to the public and we can promote it. Now because everyone that bought at 0.04 Euro and sold again at 0.20 - 0.21 Euro the stock is down at 0.08 Euro and I will purchase 10,000 Euro at 0.08 - 0.09 Euro for a total of 125,000 - 111,111 shares, can't wait for it to get to around 0.20 Euro again IT'S GREAT!!
 

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Hm. I have an RCMP web site with a press release, naming the court officers and the RCMP officer, and why they think the company is operating a pyramid scheme.

I have a company that lists, on its own site, the countries in which it may not do business because those countries consider it a pyramid scheme.

I have a psuedonymous individual who assures me that the RCMP is wrong, that Canada is so different from the US and Singapore that it allows whatever it is the company is doing, but does not list any attorneys, newspapers, or court dockets to support his/her assertions.

Irrespective of whether or not it is technically a pyramid scheme under Canadian law, it remains a pyramid scheme under US law. The US law exists because pyramid schemes are not sound investments.

For future reference, here's a collection of stuff from all over the Web, pro and con.
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WGI SCAM ALERT

Story
Arrests made in pyramid scheme

Tony Tighe
Associated Press

Six people in Southern Alberta are amoung 8 people charged with operating an illegal pyramid and lottery scheme.

These arrests could have a huge ripple effect for several thousand people in Alberta and over 400,000 people worldwide who have invested in World Games Inc. (WGI)

A joint task force compiled of Calgary City Police, RCMP in Calgary and Lethbridge, the Alberta Gaming Commission and Alberta Justice has completed an 18 month investigation into WGI.

Police say WGI is an illegal investment and gambling company which operates through a web site on the internet.

They say people are recruited to join WGI on three different levels, each varying in cost, and can invest in a virtual stock market .

Members can trade shares but 30% of any earnings must be reinvested in World Games Inc.

If they sign up new members underneath them they receive points that can be traded for money, which is automatically deposited into their bank accounts.

Staff Sargeant Joe Houben with the Calgary Police Commercial Crime Unit says the only way to make money is to recruit more people underneath you.

Parts of that money would go to pay people off at the top of the pyramid. So in order to make the pyramid function, the more people were recruited, the more money goes toward the top and flows to the top.

Peter Billac - Interview
The name Pete Billac may remain anonymous to your memoirs but his achievements in life may leave a lasting impression. Ingenious, incredible, even miraculous, are just a number in a multitude of ways that can be used to describe a man who has experienced so much in life. His unique style to writing his books has seem 46 of them reach best-seller status, he has held world records in spear fishing and even drilled for oil, yet he is only 45. How has someone managed to do so much, in such a short space of time? He is a shining example of how you can set dreams and let them come true. To learn more about this man, and to hear about a once in a lifetime opportunity that he is currently writing on, read below for what will certainly be an riveting testament of a true and full life.

1. Many of the readers of this interview may not have heard of you, so what is it that you currently do that has bought your name to the forefront of a lot of people around the world?

I've written 56 books of which 46 became best sellers. But I write on a variety of topics, mostly those that interest me and ones that I feel THE MASSES will respond to. I've written books on the Mafia, on the last recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor (from the US in the Vietnam War), I wrote a book on relationships, on cruises, on what NEW FATHERS might do to help their wives, on the Light-Heavyweight boxing champion of the world who was "supposedly" bought by the Mafia, on fast weight-loss products and plans, on the dangers of INDOOR polluted air, on the INJUSTICE of the legal system, and many more. In fact, I've written SIX MORE BOOKS than DANIELLE STEELE, yet she's a household word.

For the past 10 years I've been writing SELF-HELP books, and I write in BIG print, SMALL words, LOTS of incorrect punctuation and, it seems the MASSES like that (incorrect) style. I WRITE as if I'm TALKING to a friend. I guess I'm what you might call an "overnight success," it just took me THIRTY YEARS to get there!

2. Your biography contains enough material that ten people might have done in their life. How is it that you have fitted so much in, and yet haven't even reached half a century in years? What in the past have you found compelling and would possibly like to revisit in your career?

Ive always been in a hurry, and in doing that I've been able to do MANY things. I think it began with my parents who had a third and fourth grade education. They used to argue on who had the higher degree of learning. We were poor; my dad was a housepainter and my mom, a housewife. But then, EVERYBODY was poor in that area of New Orleans and I didn't know any other type of life. When I reached my early teens I discovered that "other kids" had INDOOR toilets and HOT WATER that came from some type of heater. I think it was THEN that I vowed NEVER to be poor. I became somewhat of an OVER-ACHIEVER and I've been running FULL SPEED ever since. I'm known to be a bit impatient and DEMANDING that those who TELL me they can do something and set a TIME on it, that they DO IT, and IN the time they specified. I've been somewhat of an adventurer in that I've never felt REAL fear and I kind of LIKE danger; it makes me excited to "get out" of whatever tight situations Im in. Also, I often at times don't tell ALL that I've done because in looking over it, it DOES seem a bit impossible. Yeah, it took 12 years of going to reunions of all types for my WIFE to believe me! NOTHING would I change other than have a dozen kids. I learn from mistakes. That's why the way I am able to help others came about - trial and error.)

3. After everything you have done, you now seem to have settled into a life of writing books on topics that interest you and chatting to groups, or at conventions or meetings anywhere around the world. Is this a fair assumption to make and do you now think you have found an area you would like to remain?

I do extensive RESEARCH for all of my topics. I wrote a book titled HOW NOT TO BE LONELY about 22 years ago. The sub-title was: (HOW to FIND a mate, WHERE to look...WHAT to say, and How to Keep em'. )WOMEN bought the book about 1000 to 1; MEN think it's CRAP. SO I wrote another book - SAME story but a different COVER; I added TONIGHT to the title. HOW NOT TO BE LONELY -TONIGHT! and men, always in a HURRY, bought THAT book about 400 to 1. The fast answer to a long, WONDERFUL story is that they book grossed more than 55 MILLION dollars. THIS "afforded" me the luxury to choose what I wanted to write in the future. FOR this one book, I interviewed more than 6000 people who were married, divorced, dating, happy, unhappy, etc. Yes, I do EXTENSIVE research!2

Is there anything else you would like yet to try out in life?

I can't think of ANYTHING that I haven't done that I'd like to do. I really ENJOY making people laugh while I "teach" some of what I research. I TRULY like to HELP people - if they are willing to work. I enjoy travelling, meeting people from different countries, religions, beliefs, etc. I have a wife and two sons (Clay is 9 and Brad is 11) and I take them with me whenever possible. BOTH boys are very bright; BRAD is genius level with a 168 IQ and a reading capability of a highschool sophomore. Clay is smart and makes A's, but Brad makes HUNDREDS.

4. 46 from 54 books have gone on and sold over a million copies is an amazing feat. What do you think it is about your writing style that allows you to have achieved this remarkable accomplishment?

In appealing to the MASSES, I realise that this is a FAST world, so I write relatively SHORT books. I tell the TRUTH, I'm extremely CANDID and my books are almost all 96 pages, BIG print, and I make even the instruction books read like a STORY book. I try to make people NOT become bored, and people like to know, WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR ME? How can you help ME lose fat? How can you save ME money? How can you help ME make MORE money? How can I get rid of wrinkles? LIVE longer? MEET someone? People love these "how-to" book. So, I "research the researchers" and put my findings in PLAIN words almost ANYONE can read.

5. You have recently written a book on 'How to Become Rich on the Internet', and as part of this book, you have mentioned that World Games Inc is (to quote) 'the most exciting work-at-home business concept on the Internet today'. What is World Games Inc.

To "cut to the chase" it is Network (they call it RELATIONSHIP) Marketing on the Internet. When I first HEARD about this concept it took me perhaps TEN SECONDS to hop a plane to Australia and find out more. You see, you need a good product to make money; a GREAT product gives you a chance to make a LOT of money. This was the FIRST time such a concept has been on the Internet.

I researched this company for 19 months and spent about $70,000 BEFORE I wrote the first book (Getting Rich on the Internet). THAT book sold out in months and a new one I'm working on is titled WORLD GAMES INC (What IS it and HOW to DO it) and will be out in May of 2004.

Yet ANOTHER book that I finished is titled YOUR HOME-BASED BUSINESS that tells HOW TO SUCCEED in ANY home-based business. It tells what IS and what is NOT a Pyramid Scheme,, it tells those who failed how NOT to fail (this time) and I list about 10 "worthwhile" businesses; World Games Inc is the ONLY Internet and telephone-driven business. Yes, I LOVED "the product" of World Games Inc because TRILIONS all over the world GAMBLE. I saw that the PAY to the members was outstanding and then I looked into the background of the ones behind the company. I look for MONEY, for EXPERIENCE and for INTEGRITY. The CEO, Greg Kennedy, is a wonderful, hard-working, hands-on individual with a long string of successful business ventures. When he was a teenager he hunted CROCIDILES in areas of New Guinea and I liked that, too. He works ALL the time and he has become my friend. Just recently he visited me here at my ranch in Texas in his private jet and we spent a few days together. I REALLY like him and I TRUST him. If I ever decide to take a partner in ANY business, I'd choose Greg Kennedy. World Games Inc, being the first of its kind in history, had "glitches" the first year or so. But then, ALL new businesses have glitches the first year, but Greg "hung in there" and he has MADE it work. Yes, I trust him and I admire him. World Games Inc gives so MANY a CHANCE to make a LOT of money if they have the desire, if they ACT on that desire, and if they work hard and smart. It's not easy to get rich. If it were, EVERYBODY would be rich.

6. This World Games Inc sounds quite interesting, can you tell us more about it and how you went about researching it?

I hired attorneys, researchers, MLM experts and I do my OWN "hands on" investigation. Also, it costs very little to TRY (Around 185) this business and I've SEEN THE CHECKS for many of the TOP income-earners and hundreds of others who are making from three to TEN times as much money as they made working a JOB. As of NOW, I've spent more than $100,000 and after 35 months being in the business, WORLD GAMES INC is very solid and have almost half a MILLION members. I HELP these folks with my telephone conference calls, I do RADIO SHOWS for them that are FREE, and I speak at large meetings around the world. I really LIKE helping people; I teach them to make earning money a GAME and to have FUN. Yes, I LIKE what I do.

7. Do you still think that there is scepticism to investing in business online and that this would prevent people from wanting to invest into it though?

YES. There is ALWAYS scepticism, and rightfully so. In the past MANY businesses failed but MORESO, the people FAILED the business. They didn't work. They never REALLY understood how to BUILD their business, and to make up for THEIR inadequacy, they BLAME THE COMPANY! Then there are those who either never understood "the nature of the business," who never WORKED it, who QUIT, who "jumped" for what seemed to be a "better deal, or who TRIED but never found a SYSTEM that suited THEIR personality. (I tell them HOW to do it in my books). Then there are the DREAM STEALERS, some perhaps, friends who "mean" well but either dont know WHAT they are talking about, or talked to OTHERS who didn't know what THEY were talking about and they will WARN you. My advice, find out for YOURSELF. Do NOT let these "DREAM STEALERS" steal YOUR dream. Network Marketing has made MORE millionaires during the past two decades than ALL OTHER BUSINESSES in t he world!

8. Why should people not miss out on this opportunity?

Because it is an OPPORTUNITY -, a CHANCE to make a lot of money with SMALL investment, it allows you to WORK FROM YOUR HOME, as is the FASTEST, EASIEST LEAST EXPENSIVE CHANCE for "ordinary" people to improve their lifestyle - perhaps BECOME rich!)

Many thanks for Pete Billac for doing this interview. If anyone wants to know more about this World Games Inc and to know how to join, then feel free to contact me on [email protected]. Pete Billac has a website, part of his own publishing company at www.swan-pub.com where his books can be purchased.

About WGI
World Games Inc (WGI) is the trading name of Pacific Delta Investments Limited (PDIL) which is registered in the British Virgin Islands. PDIL has been trading under WGI since late 2001.

Mr Greg Kennedy is the Chairman of the Board of directors of PDIL.

PDIL has agreements in place with external companies which are engaged to provide services to the members of WGI. The associated companies and the services that they provide are listed below:

Company Service Provided Registered/Licenced
International Lottery in Liechtenstein Foundation (ILLF)
Lottery products such as Sweepstakes8 and Globelot. See:

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Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) and;
Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
Liechtenstein

Pay2 Ltd
Payment services provided including the Pay2 Visa Electron Card See:

www.pay2.net
Isle Of Man

OB Services NV trading as WGI Casino
Casino games and other gaming products.

Member of Interactive Gaming Council

See:
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Netherlands Antilles

Blitztrade GmbH
IT and support consultancy services regarding Virtual Stock Market Game
Germany

Palladium Technology Ltd
Member payment processing (credit card transactions) through WebTRADE.NET - The-Payment.Company- GmbH
Gibraltar

EastWest Management Ltd
Legal, Media and PR consultancy services
United Kingdom

WorldPlay Services Pty Ltd
IT and support consultancy services
Australia



PDIL also utilises other companies to perform certain functions that may not have direct involvement with WGI members or the WGI business generally. Members (of WGI and the general public) are encouraged to contact WGI via the following email addresses:

WGI Compliance - [email protected]

Issues involving a breach or alleged breach of the rules governing members' conduct imposed by WGI.

WGI Events - [email protected]

Request for representatives of WGI to attend functions

WGI Jurisdiction - [email protected]

Information or enquiries regarding jurisdictions in which WGI does not operate.

WGI Leaders Recognition Programme - [email protected]

Information or enquiries regarding the Leaders Recognition Programme.

WGI Press Enquiries - [email protected]

Information or enquiries regarding press or media publications.

WGI Support - [email protected]

Members who are not able to access their WGI Website for any reason.

WGI Testimonials - [email protected]

Any Member wishing to submit a testimonial about their journey with WGI, to be made available for publication.

Please Note: WGI receives literally hundreds of emails each day from members and non-members alike. We will endeavour to respond to your enquiries as quickly as possible and will give our members priority. To ensure your request is addressed efficiently please direct it to the appropriate contact address and provide as much information (including your WGI Username and User ID if you are a member) as possible.

WGI has a policy of communicating via email in most instances and will not respond to emails that are directed to the incorrect address. All members must direct all other enquiries through the "Contact Support" option in the "Help" menu of your Members' Lounge. Any enquiries that can be dealt with via "Contact Support" but which are received at the email addresses above, will be returned to the sender. Any enquiries (of any nature) pertaining to WGI matters that are received by any of the associated companies will not be considered by the associated company or WGI. All WGI related enquiries must be directed to WGI.




The World Games Inc web site also advertises a casino and lottery where members can buy virtual tickets on the "Sweepstakes 8" and win money daily or weekly.

The Alberta Gaming Commission says the lottery isn't licensed in Canada and anyone playing it is breaking the law, regardless of where the lottery is located.

A total of 8 people have been charged with operating or promoting an illegal pyramid scheme and an illegal lottery.

Richard Brown, Calgary

Gail Boone, Red Deer

Ronald Patey, Lethbridge

Linda Zilka, Lethbridge

Clifford Rau, Lethbridge

Donald Gellatly, Taber

Jeanette Friskie, Regina, Sask

An arrest warrant has been issued for the Vice President of World Games Inc, Quentin George, believed to be in Australia.

Police say they are high up in the pyramid and were promoters.

Police say one of their own members joined the WGI network and invested money to collect evidence.

A lawyer representing WGI in Canada and one of the accused issued a press release in response to the charges on Sunday, Sept. 28.

D'arcy DePoe says, "World Games Inc, categorically denies that they or their members have engaged in any sort of illegal activity." " Prior to coming to Canada, the company did a great deal of "due diligence" -- it carefully examined Canadian Law and, after having obtained an extensive and thorough legal opinion, has formed the view that their operation complied and continued to comply with the Criminal Code."

If you want more information on pyramid schemes and why they are illegal log on to the web sites for the RCMP or the Federal Trade Commission in the U.S.

 Copyright 2003 Global TV News

Here is a quote from the members news flash.
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Resignation of President - 16 October 2003
Members will be aware that on 25 September 2003, the Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission filed charges against 6 Members of WGI together with President of Global Operations, Mr Quentin George.

The charges are that, in essence, the members and Mr George allegedly operated an illegal pyramid scheme and an unlicensed lottery. They were preceded by police raids on the houses of our Canadian Members who were charged, at 9:00pm at night, while the families of those members were at home. In one case, a member was confined to her bedroom for a number of hours and her 11 year old daughter was held in the family living room until the early hours of the morning.

Suffice to say that the manner in which these raids were carried out before the charges were even laid, is most unsatisfactory and is being challenged by our lawyers in Canada.

Our Members and Mr George will be defended by us using whatever legal and financial resources are required. The charges are merely a political stunt designed to damage WGI and its reputation and those of our Members and executive in Canada and around the world, and we believe the charges are a complete abuse of the legal process.

We have every confidence that neither Mr George nor any of our members has engaged in any illegal activity whatsoever and that these outrageous charges will be absolutely and successfully defended.

Of course, our primary concern and the primary concern of Mr George, is for our Members. For that reason, in order to protect WGI and its Members from any further exposure to these charges, Mr George has agreed to step down as President of Global Operations. While we regret Mr Georges decision in that regard, we appreciate that his decision was made with the best interests of you, our Members, and in the best interests of WGI, in mind.

We applaud Mr Georges enormous efforts for WGI to date and will of course continue to defend him and our various Canadian Members to the maximum possible extent in relation to these completely unfounded charges.

Greg Kennedy

Chairman

RCMP Warns Against Pyramid Schemes

RCMP Warns Against Pyramid Schemes

The RCMP is warning the public to avoid financial rackets promising rich rewards for those who join and then recruit others.

The alert comes on the heels of 16 criminal charges laid against eight people in Alberta in connection with an alleged pyramid scheme and illegal lottery. The charges followed a five-month investigation by the provinces joint forces Gaming Investigation Team, comprising officials from the Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission, the police services of Edmonton, Calgary, Lethbridge and Medicine Hat, Alberta Justice, Alberta Solicitor General, the Criminal Intelligence Service Alberta and the RCMP.

Pyramid schemes have been around for decades, yet people of all backgrounds keep falling for them. The schemes usually entice their victims to join with promises of huge profits. Those who do soon find out the only way they can make money is by recruiting others.

Often these schemes utilize the testimony of professionals, even members of the justice system, to endorse their business. The RCMP does not provide opinions as to the legalities of business operations. It recommends instead that those who want an opinion on a particular company seek one from the Canadian Competition Bureau and/or a law firm specializing in business practices.

If a scheme suggests that a participant is eventually to receive a larger sum of money than he or she paid, as a result of payments by new recruits, its probably a pyramid scheme.

The RCMP is constantly on the lookout for these and other scams and has shut down several in recent years. Unfortunately new ones keep popping up.
Pyramid schemes are illegal under the Criminal Code of Canada (see also:
s. 55.1 Competition Act, Definition of "scheme of pyramid selling").
Conducting or managing a pyramid scheme is an offence. Participating in a pyramid scheme may also be considered an offence. The very nature of these schemes means that for each person who illegally makes money, many more will lose out. Awareness is the best defense. Remember: if an offer looks too good to be true, it probably is.

The eight people in the Alberta scheme were charged in September with conducting or managing a pyramid scheme and an illegal lottery for their alleged involvement with an organization known as World Games Inc. Investigators allege that World Games took in millions of dollars in illicit revenues. The organization at one point boasted an international membership of over 400,000. The total number of Canadians victimized by this activity is as yet unknown.

For more information on pyramid schemes and how they differ from legitimate multi-level marketing plans, please visit the Commercial Crime, Pyramid Scheme section of our Web site.

Australian Police Raid E-Gaming Operation
Wednesday December 31, 1969



AUSTRALIA As reported by the Queensland Courier Mail: "An online gaming and virtual stock exchange run from Queensland is alleged to have ripped off hundreds of investors around the world, prompting an international police investigation and threats of legal action.

"The scheme uses a sophisticated website dubbed World Games Inc, which offers subscribers tens of thousands of Swiss francs a week for referring punters to the site and from commissions on gambling transactions.

"Police in Queensland and Sweden have swooped on people associated with the scheme, and earlier versions of it, while a group of investors is in the process of launching a class action against its operators.

"Two Gold Coast businessmen were expected to appear in the Southport Magistrate's Court in November facing a total of 40 counts of fraud relating to their involvement in an earlier version of the gaming operation called VG Global, a Queensland police spokeswoman said yesterday.

"And in Sweden, a 39-year-old woman was arrested over her alleged involvement in promoting the current scheme (World Games Inc), which lists a post office box at Robina on the Gold Coast as a technical contact address and is owned by a company in the British Virgin Islands.

"Swedish investigators who charged the woman described the operation as a pyramid marketing operation which offered investors nothing.

"Former investors in Australia this week said more than 20 of them were preparing to launch a class action against the business and its associated companies.

"They are understood to be claiming hundreds of thousands of dollars in winnings and commissions"

lisamangen
Posted: Mar 10 2004, 02:22 AM

This is happening in WGI!

The total amount of lies have reached a devastating level within WGI.
Before the split wgi told their members that there would be no more shares from treasury.Greg Kennedy later confirmed this in a mail to a a Swedish leader.
It was all lies. WGI sold out at least 250 million shares at 1chf, a serious damage to the SMG.
This has now been confirmed by the world leader Bjrhusdal.

Greg Kennedy told from stage at Gardemoen that wgi had bought a big piece of Pay2.
It was a lie.
WGI has told us that Greg Kennedy was a business billionaire before joining wgi.
It is a lie.
Several members have several times asked for his CV. No response. WHY?
A swedish wgimember is on trial this week because she run a wgimeeting.
Greg Kennedy told their members that they would give her the best support available.
It was a lie. WGI has not offered any help at all. In fact they have refused all communication with the swedish leaders. Result: No growth, no trust and a lot of people selling their shares.

On Norwegian TV2 later this week: The truth about wgi and Greg Kennedy.
Greg Kennedy as the main suspect in a creditcard fraud.

The case.

"Kennedy has also intimated his ability to move to an overseas location on a permanent basis if necessary, and in fact has recently and suddenly moved his family from his rented Carindale residence to an unknown location. Kennedy is a well travelled individual and a man of considerable contacts and resources around the world. We are lead to believe he may be planning to abscond.


4. Conclusion:

4.1 The attached emails show that Devine and Kennedy knew the credit card data they were passing on to VGGlobal for transaction purposes had been previously used and it appears they conspired between themselves and with the assistance of Worling, Gregory, and Ritech, to run the transactions again, with the intention of obtaining unlawfully solicited funds on the credit accounts of others and without regard of the law.

4.2 The interview with Gregory gives credibility to this statement in that Gregory claimed he knew there was something illegal about the Indian Runs and that Kennedy had told him this as well.

4.3 The interview conducted with Chris Gregory makes it very clear that these parties are all still protecting each other because of their knowledge of the facts involving these transactions. Gregory told us certain things. Someone then approached him and he instantly changed his story.

4.4 The attached records cover transactions that took place between early October 2001 and early January 2002. They are not believed to be the only transactions undertaken by VGGlobal during that period of time but are believed to be directly related the transactions known as Indian Runs and are sufficient to provide a clear indication of the method in which the Indian data was used.

4.5 Examination of the attached records of these transactions, show that the October transactions consisted of completely different consumer credit card detail than the November group of transactions. As there is no obvious previous data to compare it with: it is unclear if these transactions are of a fraudulent nature.

4.6 However: Indian Run transaction number 6 contains data and credit card details of consumers that appear again in Indian Runs Numbers 9,10, 11,& 12.

4.7 In addition, Indian Run number 9 was transacted on 26 October 2001 and on the same day there is another billing run that consists of almost exactly the same content but has been rearranged by alphabetizing and numerical order. This appears to be an attempt to provide a second run at the transactions without an obvious copy cat appearance.

4.8 The Indian Run transactions numbering 9 through 12 contain a great deal of data which has been duplicated on each run and in some instances, any one consumer has been charged multiple counts within each individual Indian Run.

4.9 Within this report there are some instances of eailed communication between the parties involved. The cpies of which are placed into the report in chronological order by date to provide an accurate assessment of the intended meaning and worth of the communication. This has assisted in clearly identifying Greg Kennedy as the person in control of the Indian Runs as processed by Consolidated Management Services and Transacted by Ritech.

4.10 The statements and claims made by Chris Gregory strongly support the belief that Kennedy planned, organised and physically assisted the performance of these transactions with the intention of obtaining funds unlawfully. Tom Devines personal admission by email, that he had scrubbed second hand data for Kennedys use clearly shows Kennedys knowledge of and wilful involvement in the facilitation of this apparent criminal offence of Fraud.

4.11 Further, the enclosed communication offers evidence that there is an electronic record of all the Indian Run transactions somewhere. Chris Gregorys admission that the information had come through his office via the internet, and then his subsequent reversal and attempt to convince our investigator that no data had been received through his office, indicates that there are complete records available now through, the offices of Gentech, VGGlobal and Greg Kennedy at Robina. We suspect that if you were to forensically examine the computers in these offices, you would identify the electronic data confirming the existence the emails and the spreadsheets as attached in the hardcopies."

We need to replace Greg Kennedy and the incompetent world leaders who knew and did not act.
This week: Put on your helmets, we are going for a BIG dive.....

WORLD GAMES: Investors To Launch Suit V. Fraudulent Gambling Scheme
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Queensland police have discovered an online gaming and virtual stock
exchange that allegedly swindled hundreds of investors worldwide, the
Courier Mail reports. The website, named World Games, Inc., alleges
offers subscribers tens of thousands of Swiss francs a week for
referring punters to the site and from commissions on gambling
transactions.
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More than 20 Australian investors are planning to launch a class action
against the Company, and its associated companies, such as:

(1) Harroford Developments,

(2) VG Global, and

(3) World Play Ltd,

Another target of the suit is Brisbane businessman Greg Kennedy, whom
the website lists as its technical and administrative contact. The
investors are allegedly claiming hundreds of thousands of dollars in
winnings and commissions.

Lawyers for the operators of World Games Inc, however, said there were
no investors owed money outside "normal trading terms" and were unaware
of police investigations, the Courier Mail reports. Mr. Kennedy could
not be reached for comment. His lawyer, Scott Coulthart, confirmed Mr
Kennedy had links to VG Global, an earlier version of the scheme, which
was owned by British Virgin Islands company Harraford Developments.

Mr Coulthart told the Courier Mail that World Play Ltd, also a British
Virgin Islands company, owned the World Games Inc website and that VG
Global players had been "rolled over into World Games Inc."

However in a written statement, Mr Coulthart last night said "there are
no investors in World Games Inc who are owed money outside" Mr.
Kennedy's, and World Play Ltd's "normal trading terms."
 

Black21Jack

Dormant account
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Location
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Again you are wrong. The reason they have not entered into the U.S. YET has nothing to do with the accusations of it being a pyramid but everything to do with the products that are offered, namely gambling and lottery. This is the same reason why they had to suspend operations in Singapore. Absolutely nothing to do with MLM, or the BS illegal pyramid labelling. All the dribble that you poseted has been addressed in previous posts of mine, especially the ancient article that still seems to be popping up regarding the charges of fraud credit card use, Mr. kennedy being involved and the charges of "Two Gold Coast Business men" being charged in Australian court. There was already an apology posted that I included in a previous post by the writer of the article that went a little something like this:

APOLOGY TO WORLD PLAY LTD, HARROFORD DEVELOPMENTS LTD AND GREG KENNEDY An article on our website recently about online gaming referred to World Play Ltd, Harroford Developments Ltd, Greg Kennedy and the web site worldgamesinc.com.

It has been pointed out that readers may have understood the article to mean that those companies and Mr Kennedy are under police investigation by Queensland and international police, and that Mr Kennedy is facing fraud charges before the Southport Magistrates Court. This is untrue.

We have now confirmed that there are no charges against or investigations of any of them pending with the Queensland police or the police in Sweden. The reference in the article to two Gold Coast businessmen expected to appear in Court this year on multiple charges was not a reference to Mr Kennedy.

The article may also have been interpreted as suggesting that World Play Limited, Harroford Developments and Mr Kennedy have defrauded investors of hundreds of thousands of dollars and that their operations are illegal. These allegations are denied, and we have no reliable evidence of any such wrongdoing.

We reiterate that World Play denies that there are any sums outstanding to any members outside World Plays normal trading terms.

We apologize to World Play, Harroford Developments and Mr Greg Kennedy for the distress, embarrassment and damage caused to them by the article
 
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