Underage Issue

[vinylweatherman]

I swear I'm not a parent. Our of curiosity what is the procedure they take when you say your underage? Like what is proof?

They lock your account and put you on a blacklist. However, because losing and then claiming you are underage is a common scam, they won't simply send the money back. The problem is that if underage, you cannot send in any kind of proof. Whilst there are documents to prove you are old enough, kids don't get documents to prove they are too young to do anything. Saying you can't send in ID because you are underage is true, but it doed not give the casino any evidence to separate the true underage player from a sore loser who tries it on just because they have lost.

You have more chance of being believed by NOT asking for the money back, just getting your account locked.

In the real world, the authorities would probably drag you home to face the music from your parents. This happens here in the UK if you are caught with alcohol under age. They assume the parents will be responsible enough to be shocked, and to meet out a suitable punishment.

I bet you are far more scared your parents will find out, which is why you would rather forget about it. It seems your real worry is having to explain what happened to $300, and this is why you want to know if the casino will slip it back quietly if you admit you are under age.

If they have any sense, they will say that they will only return it to one of your parents, who would be able to supply ID. They will know there is every chance you won't call their bluff on this.

In the evil Rhonda case, the parent seemed to leap to the defence of the errant child in trying to construct a sob story in order to get the money back. Having emails from both parent and daughter, it was possible to work out it was a scam.

 

[IamTheBirdman]

Thanks for explaining that. My parents are pretty cool about things, of course this would shock any parent. That's not the reason for saying I'll forget about it, it's because I just don't want to get in this kind of situation with a casino because I don't know what could happen. And hey, the $300 is fine for me, my mom and dad didn't take it out of the bank for me or anything, so they won't be asking for where it is. The blacklist thing scares me.

I would NEVER EVER do this, but do these casinos catch you if you give fake documents? I mean, papers are easy to alter.

 

[kc83]

Think this might not be the whole story we have heard???????

 

[Nifty29]

I swear I'm not a parent. Our of curiosity what is the procedure they take when you say your underage? Like what is proof?

Well you're the first 15yo I've seen in years who uses pretty much proper English and punctuation.

IMO this is a big red flag.....if my teenage sons typed something like this I would be asking who was doing it for them.

 

[cdomi66]

Well you're the first 15yo I've seen in years who uses pretty much proper English and punctuation.

IMO this is a big red flag.....if my teenage sons typed something like this I would be asking who was doing it for them.

Really? By 15 I sure would hope they would be able to communicate in clear, concise English.

This is about how a 15 year old was able to even open an account imo.

This is a prime example of why the casinos need to demand and receive clear, non disputable proof of who and what you are before you even make the initial deposit.

 

[Nifty29]

Really? By 15 I sure would hope they would be able to communicate in clear, concise English.

This is about how a 15 year old was able to even open an account imo.

This is a prime example of why the casinos need to demand and receive clear, non disputable proof of who and what you are before you even make the initial deposit.

I didn't say they COULDN'T.......I said they DON'T. I know for a fact they can write excellent English (I've always insisted upon it), but teenagers have their own language.

As for opening a casino.account..anyone can do that regardless of their intelligence or language skills. I've seen adults here who would have trouble opening a box of chocolates who seem quite capable of creating casino accounts.

In utopia, pre-approval would be great. In reality, it is largely unworkable. Myself and others have explained why many times, so I'm not going into it all again.

However, the main issues are delays in beginning play on a new account (very few people will be prepared to wait days or weeks to get started), and the sheer enormity of the task of IDing thousands of players at one time, which would happen when a new casino opens, or an established casino changes their policy.

 

[anniemac]

Since I have an almost 15 grandson, I'm not so sure I am buying this either, Nifty. He is quite above average in intelligence but I don't think he would write as clear and concise. Unless there was some kind of spell check etc, he sure would be typing as good because he just wouldn't take the time.

And, although he has sat in my lap and spun the reels since he was little, I don't think it would ever enter his mind to try it on his own. It's not something that he would find interesting. And he knows that if his Mom, Dad or I found out about it, his little hiney would be in big trouble. If it isn't on his Iphone, he's not into it. Plus when he's on the computer, he playing games, not gambling.

He wouldn't know how to use Western Union, probably never even heard of it. How many 15 year olds do?

And another thing, most 15 I know dang sure wouldn't bring it out in the open for discussion nor would they know to come here to talk about it.

OP, if indeed you are just 15, my suggestion to you is get away from gambling, from this site and find something age appropriate to do. Good thing you didn't win, the lure is just too great.

 

[LHofsdal]

Does anyone think this is just to unreal, that a 15 year old not only gambles on line but finds Casino Meister, and only 24 hours after Bryan puts up the Evil players thread? One of them was saying that it was her 16 year old that was doing the scamming.

What I find so unreal is that this UNDERAGE CHILD is posting on here asking what he should do. At 15 I had my first job, had my first money market account and I KNEW RIGHT FROM WRONG! Hell, my 11 year old knows right from wrong.

My advice to the OP, forget about gambling, its an ugly thing. I know that TV makes it look glamorous, but it isn't. My husband works with a man who had a son that was becoming a Professional Poker Player, at the age of 25, he took his own life because he lost his backers, and this man was pretty bright, he had a degree in Psychology and Sociology. He was very well known on the 2+2 forum. This just happened a few months ago. It can really take you down a dark path.

You lost 300 dollars, go back to work for your uncle, make some more money and put it away. Save up for a car or something. Forget about gambling. You are way to young to get hooked on it. Stop it now before it is too late.

LH

 

[IamTheBirdman]

You know I just brought it up on here to ask what would happen if I were to say I was underage, that's all. I don't know what else but to say I swear I am 15. Sure I have proper English, I've taken English classes for how many years, I pick up writing well.

I'm into doing business, I come up with my own ideas for products, and if I do have one, I'll use Western Union and pay someone overseas for a prototype. It may sound like it's a lot, but I know how to do things and business. I really hope of opening my own business one day, that's why I used Western Union before, that's why I use proper grammar.

I've basically set it in my head that I am not going to do any depositing to any site until I'm 18, so I'm off it for now.

 

[ksech]

Well you're the first 15yo I've seen in years who uses pretty much proper English and punctuation.

IMO this is a big red flag.....if my teenage sons typed something like this I would be asking who was doing it for them.

Have to agree with Nifty, most teens communicate in "text" speak, which does NOT involve proper grammar and punctuation. This whole thread just doesn't seem right, I'd be very careful with the advice I'm handing out people, JMO....

 

[IamTheBirdman]

Then I don't know what to say, I type like this because I always have. That's it.

 

[homerbert]

On Pokerstars, some month ago(sorry, dont remember how long ago), one guy won sunday million and big prize about 200k(may be a bit smaller). So, he was under 18 years(but registered as 18+ , just change his birthday day), but he was banned, money confiscated and sent to charity.
I think its wrong to deposit, lost, and then search ways to get money back

 

[vinylweatherman]

You know I just brought it up on here to ask what would happen if I were to say I was underage, that's all. I don't know what else but to say I swear I am 15. Sure I have proper English, I've taken English classes for how many years, I pick up writing well.

I'm into doing business, I come up with my own ideas for products, and if I do have one, I'll use Western Union and pay someone overseas for a prototype. It may sound like it's a lot, but I know how to do things and business. I really hope of opening my own business one day, that's why I used Western Union before, that's why I use proper grammar.

I've basically set it in my head that I am not going to do any depositing to any site until I'm 18, so I'm off it for now.

You would do WHAT

1) They could steal your money and do no work.
2) They could steal your invention and make it theirs, stealing your money for years to come.

Inventors are very careful about who gets to see their prototypes, and any legitimate producer of prototypes would not be demanding Western Union be used for payment.

If you can't make your prototype yourself, you need to find a local firm you can trust, where you know where they are, and under which laws they work. Often, inventors want their patent in place before they even let firms at home get a look, let alone firms overseas.

If it is any good, you will find the Chinese have already "invented" it and are shipping it out by the container load by the time your overseas firm gets your prototype back to you.

If you are any good at CAD, get a 3D printer and make your own prototypes, or at least a non functioning model.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Thanks for explaining that. My parents are pretty cool about things, of course this would shock any parent. That's not the reason for saying I'll forget about it, it's because I just don't want to get in this kind of situation with a casino because I don't know what could happen. And hey, the $300 is fine for me, my mom and dad didn't take it out of the bank for me or anything, so they won't be asking for where it is. The blacklist thing scares me.

I would NEVER EVER do this, but do these casinos catch you if you give fake documents? I mean, papers are easy to alter.

Yes, and they have been honing their skills for years. It'll be the same if you altered documents to appear underage just to get the losses back, they will, if anything, check them even more thoroughly because they will be aware how common a scam this is to get back losses.

 

[jetset]

My ten cents - if you are genuinely a 15 year old get the hell away from gambling until you're adult enough to handle it (which you clearly are not).

Regarding trying to weasel back your losses - forget it - the casino security departments have had lots of practice and your transactions will be thoroughly scrutinised and back-checked. Underage gamblers are a major concern for operators for a variety of reasons, and they're pretty hot on this issue.

 

[Realitybitez]

Take it as a lesson learnt. Gambling is not a good habit so best to snap out of it now

 

[IamTheBirdman]

Well this was very interesting. Thanks guys for your replies.

 

[Casinomeister]

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I've basically set it in my head that I am not going to do any depositing to any site until I'm 18, so I'm off it for now.

You should set it into your head that you ought to wait until you're a bit older than that - how about twenty five?

Obviously your parents haven't taught you the value of a dollar. That money you threw away could have done a hell of a lot for some poor family in the Congo, or Doctors without Borders, American Red Cross, etc. To throw money around at the age of 15 is not only moronic - it seeps of gluttony and reflects upon your character is a most negative way.

Since you apparently lied about your age while registering in this forum, I'm closing your account. I don't want any teenagers hanging around here. I have enough of that at home.

Lesson learned: don't lie - and do something positive to help others. At fifteen your recreation shouldn't cost a dime. Go outside and ride a bike. Bye.

 

[Nifty29]

You would do WHAT

1) They could steal your money and do no work.
2) They could steal your invention and make it theirs, stealing your money for years to come.

Inventors are very careful about who gets to see their prototypes, and any legitimate producer of prototypes would not be demanding Western Union be used for payment.

If you can't make your prototype yourself, you need to find a local firm you can trust, where you know where they are, and under which laws they work. Often, inventors want their patent in place before they even let firms at home get a look, let alone firms overseas.

If it is any good, you will find the Chinese have already "invented" it and are shipping it out by the container load by the time your overseas firm gets your prototype back to you.

If you are any good at CAD, get a 3D printer and make your own prototypes, or at least a non functioning model.

Good advice.

At 15, I think I was WATCHING Birdman LOL. (Remember that cartoon? BIIIIIIIRDMAN!!!)

 

[dionysus]

the original or the reboot? The newer one is fun

 

[DepositSpinLose]

i think this guy/girl is researching mass media reactions, silly anyway you put this story.

 

[Tirilej]

i think this guy/girl is researching mass media reactions, silly anyway you put this story.

I'm so naiv, but I agree that it can't have been written by a 15 year old boy. He also came back answering all the time, and kept his temper. They don't do that.
I have only raised a girl, but I know how teenagers are, and I've been one myself not so long ago...at least it feels like that

 

[arhat1987]

You are gambling anyways and just think that this was one of your losses.
*snip* <---- spammy link to casinodelrio.com

You gambled away and this incident also might be one of your gambling sessions. What else could you do rather than thinking that in this.

 

[mattsgame]

You are gambling anyways and just think that this was one of your losses.
Fool

You gambled away and this incident also might be one of your gambling sessions. What else could you do rather than thinking that in this.

You sir/mam are the lowest of scum possible.

 

[dionysus]

maybe he should have gambled there, then he'd NEVER gamble again