UKGC To Ban Turbo Spins & Prevent Under 25's from joining VIP Schemes?

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<div class="bbWrapper">Just saw this: <a href="https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/news-action-and-statistics/news/gambling-commission-and-industry-collaboration-makes-progress-on-safer-gambling" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Gambling Commission and industry collaboration makes progress on safer gambling</a><br /> <br /> Was skeptical as it was published on 1st April on another gambling news site but managed to find it on UKGC&#039;s actual website.<br /> <br /> Looks like they&#039;re removing turbo spins from games and preventing under 25&#039;s from joining VIP programs among other measures.<br /> <br /> Only skimmed it quickly so interested what anyone&#039;s thoughts are!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">It looks like <a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/members/48748/" class="username" data-xf-init="member-tooltip" data-user-id="48748" data-username="@Team.Videoslots">@Team.Videoslots</a> will have to remove the ability to utilise split screen slots...<br /> <br /> <br /> <b>Safer products</b><br /> These groups were tasked with developing an industry code for responsible product and game design. Industry commitment from this work so far includes:<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A minimum spin speed of 2.5 seconds on all slots.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Removal of game features which may encourage intensive play such as slam stops and turbo buttons.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><b><u>Removal of split-screen slots which have been associated with potential loss of control.</u></b></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A more detailed work plan which will include in-game messaging and the creation of a Betting and Gaming Council Testing Lab to look into other game features.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Publication of the final code in September 2020.</li> </ul></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">FFS<br /> <br /> Still no sign of anything useful from this bunch then...like abolishing pending periods??<br /> <br /> Can they PLEASE leave our game play alone and focus their efforts on the things that actually matter.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 51074" data-quote="Mr_Slot5" data-source="post: 1103944" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1103944" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1103944">Mr_Slot5 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> FFS<br /> <br /> Still no sign of anything useful from this bunch then...like abolishing pending periods??<br /> <br /> Can they PLEASE leave our game play alone and focus their efforts on the things that actually matter. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> To be fair, I do think that the turbo spins do take the piss. Take the Pragmatic turbo play for example, how the hell is the server even able to communicate so stupidly fast? <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 30986" data-quote="JGslots" data-source="post: 1103948" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1103948" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1103948">JGslots said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> To be fair, I do think that the turbo spins do take the piss. Take the Pragmatic turbo play for example, how the hell is the server even able to communicate so stupidly fast? <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> On a lot of sites you get lag between spins, even with turbo spins- probably for the very reason you mention. VS is one of these sites. <br /> <br /> I&#039;ve only played one or two sites where you get &#039;true&#039; turbo spins.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 51074" data-quote="Mr_Slot5" data-source="post: 1103951" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1103951" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1103951">Mr_Slot5 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> On a lot of sites you get lag between spins, even with turbo spins- probably for the very reason you mention. VS is one of these sites.<br /> <br /> I&#039;ve only played one or two sites where you get &#039;true&#039; turbo spins. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Wazdan takes the piss its possible spin so fast your balance changes without any idea what happened. <br /> You&#039;re on point on them focusing on the things which really don&#039;t make any difference though, makes me think they&#039;re under the control of the big UK bookies with how they act</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">During the next couple of month their will be a lot ideas and hairbrained schemes cooked up at home by the ukgc the end is near for the U.K. market</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 53382" data-quote="Davey86" data-source="post: 1104017" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104017" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104017">Davey86 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> During the next couple of month their will be a lot ideas and hairbrained schemes cooked up at home by the ukgc the end is near for the U.K. market </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I’m in regular contact with my ‘contact’ at both the asa and the ukgc. <br /> don’t worry about hairbrained schemes, many measures are being discussed at present ;-)</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Why dont they just ban the whole online gambling, rather than make the experience shittier and shittier every month. Then we can all play offshore at casinos where you can play like an adult and are not subject to forensic financial examination at the casinos whim!!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 8601" data-quote="dealer wins" data-source="post: 1104048" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104048" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104048">dealer wins said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Why dont they just ban the whole online gambling, rather than make the experience shittier and shittier every month. Then we can all play offshore at casinos where you can play like an adult and are not subject to forensic financial examination at the casinos whim!! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>That sounds wonderful we just give them money and play in fun mode <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 41710" data-quote="Playford7" data-source="post: 1104025" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104025" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104025">Playford7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I’m in regular contact with my ‘contact’ at both the asa and the ukgc.<br /> don’t worry about hairbrained schemes, many measures are being discussed at present ;-) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Something has to give sooner or later</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Will almost be like we Swedes have it.<br /> 2.5sec instead of 3 tho.<br /> On alot of slots there is really not much difference, if any at all. Like megaways slots, and certain &quot;slower&quot; spinning slots already take about 3 seconds to finish a spin, so makes no difference.<br /> But slots that spin fast feel clunky as hell with the delay.<br /> <br /> Playngo slots for example start spinning the reels the moment you press, but they dont start landing straight away, just kind of spins in place for 1.5sec.<br /> Some providers have like a full 3 sec stop before anything starts landing, making the total delay waaaay longer than 3 sec.<br /> And some providers have the spin happening like &quot;normal&quot; and a 3 sec delay after the spin is finished, also making it waaay longer than 3 sec on most slots.<br /> Overall, it makes alot of slots alot less enjoyable to play, and i did not use to activate turbo/quickspin or make &quot;stopspins&quot; before the delay.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I think a much better way would be to have it as an option to &quot;lock away&quot; quickspin/stopspin and get the delay on spins instead of forcing it on everyone.<br /> Ruins the fun for responsible players more than it helps problem gamblers imo.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 53382" data-quote="Davey86" data-source="post: 1104050" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104050" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104050">Davey86 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Something has to give sooner or later </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>;-)</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50594" data-quote="Kroffe" data-source="post: 1104079" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104079" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104079">Kroffe said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Will almost be like we Swedes have it. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> It&#039;s getting to the point where a tooth extraction will be a more preferable experience than playing slots.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 51074" data-quote="Mr_Slot5" data-source="post: 1104084" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104084" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104084">Mr_Slot5 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> It&#039;s getting to the point where a tooth extraction will be a more preferable experience than playing slots. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Hey, i like going to the dentist.<br /> She always tells me ive done a good job brushing my teeth.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50594" data-quote="Kroffe" data-source="post: 1104086" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104086" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104086">Kroffe said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hey, i like going to the dentist.<br /> She always tells me ive done a good job brushing my teeth. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I’ve been told that for decades mate haha</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">If a slot annoys me with slow spins, or even frequent crashing, it does not help me to gamble sensibly. Frustration is not a good mix with gambling, and this is introducing artificial frustration, what was the point of bringing in SOWS and affordable gambling checks if not to make sure people could afford to gamble, now past that hurdle they have to endure imposed paint drying boredom speed <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /><br /> <br /> I can see people playing at higher stakes and just doing less spins, increase the potential for a decent base game hit and leave. I&#039;d rather retain the option of quicker spin speeds even if it meant a stake limit, so once you go north of £1 the spins slow down, what&#039;s wrong with trying something that has a bit of flexibility?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 48096" data-quote="mack341" data-source="post: 1104088" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104088" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104088">mack341 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> If a slot annoys me with slow spins, or even frequent crashing, it does not help me to gamble sensibly. Frustration is not a good mix with gambling, and this is introducing artificial frustration, what was the point of bringing in SOWS and affordable gambling checks if not to make sure people could afford to gamble, now past that hurdle they have to endure imposed paint drying boredom speed <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> <br /> <br /> I can see people playing at higher stakes and doing less spins, increase the potential for a decent base game hit and leave. I&#039;d rather retain the option of quicker spin speeds even if it meant a stake limit, so once you go north of £1 the spins slow down, what&#039;s wrong with trying something that has a bit of flexibility? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>See quick spin is enough for me, especially for games like DOA. <br /> Those turbo spins I can’t stand as if it’s a bad session you just watch your hard earned cash flash by like a racing snake on testosterone.<br /> I like to enjoy my session, a drink etc..<br /> No rush to bust or win either way.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 48096" data-quote="mack341" data-source="post: 1104088" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104088" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104088">mack341 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> If a slot annoys me with slow spins, or even frequent crashing, it does not help me to gamble sensibly. Frustration is not a good mix with gambling, and this is introducing artificial frustration, what was the point of bringing in SOWS and affordable gambling checks if not to make sure people could afford to gamble, now past that hurdle they have to endure imposed paint drying boredom speed <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/rolleyes.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /><br /> <br /> I can see people playing at higher stakes and doing less spins, increase the potential for a decent base game hit and leave. I&#039;d rather retain the option of quicker spin speeds even if it meant a stake limit, so once you go north of £1 the spins slow down, what&#039;s wrong with trying something that has a bit of flexibility? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Im not sure what kind of people are in the ukgc, but i get the feeling that the people making decisions in Spelinspektionen (our version) has little, or no knowledge at all about slots.<br /> If they did, they would focus more on enforcing high rtp:s and the like to protect players instead of all the crap they do.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 41710" data-quote="Playford7" data-source="post: 1104091" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104091" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104091">Playford7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> See quick spin is enough for me, especially for games like DOA.<br /> Those turbo spins I can’t stand as if it’s a bad session you just watch your hard earned cash flash by like a racing snake on testosterone.<br /> I like to enjoy my session, a drink etc..<br /> No rush to bust or win either way. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Pretty sure they mean all sort of hasty spins will be removed, since a 2.5sec delay will be implemented.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50594" data-quote="Kroffe" data-source="post: 1104092" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104092" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104092">Kroffe said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Im not sure what kind of people are in the ukgc, but i get the feeling that the people making decisions in Spelinspektionen (our version) has little, or no knowledge at all about slots.<br /> If they did, they would focus more on enforcing high rtp:s and the like to protect players instead of all the crap they do. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Totally agree. Idiots in suits making silly decisions, that said certain issues need help from other mediums and can take time.<br /> But the main issues they seem to avoid and implement silly rules that don’t help.<br /> The credit card ban wasn’t a bad move imo.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 50594" data-quote="Kroffe" data-source="post: 1104094" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104094" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104094">Kroffe said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Pretty sure they mean all sort of hasty spins will be removed, since a 2.5sec delay will be implemented. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Oh. That will be as exciting as toothache</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 41710" data-quote="Playford7" data-source="post: 1104091" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=1104091" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-1104091">Playford7 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> See quick spin is enough for me, especially for games like DOA.<br /> Those turbo spins I can’t stand as if it’s a bad session you just watch your hard earned cash flash by like a racing snake on testosterone.<br /> I like to enjoy my session, a drink etc..<br /> No rush to bust or win either way. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> yeah the turbo spins are a bit much for me, napoleon/blueprint and those pragmatic turbo spins are too fast you can&#039;t sit back and enjoy the suspense... but I can&#039;t play doa and netent in general without the quick spin option, I just wonder how long a normal spin takes currently on DOA, doubling that would be horrific <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/eek.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-shortname=":eek:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Is it just Sky Vegas that currently have an enforced 3 second spin on the games?<br /> <br /> I noticed the Novomatic style games have like a clock thing on the spin button. If you press too fast it says ‘Minimum 3 Seconds per Spin’ or summit.<br /> <br /> Rob <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 

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