UK Gambling Commission to get tougher

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Yeah, some of this over on this thread...
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/important-ukgc-ruling-on-bonus-terms.77007/


Thing is that just pertains to extreme individual cases where fines are levied, effectively. In terms of the general 'income over compliance' attitude the UKGC mentions, casinos are guilty of EMSEB-type rackets and TAB/SE liberties to name just two examples. Yet the UKGC does absolutely zilch because this is a large sum creamed off from thousands of players in lower amounts. Amend a few lines of rules, problem solved. Are they aware of these loopholes? Yes. What do they do? B*gger-all.

So yeah, the UKGC make their presence known when big theft cases get into the press etc. and rattle their sabres but for all the little scams their ambiguous rules allow, that affect the 'little' player? :rolleyes:
 

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The best IMO would be to have only one, well regulated, payment method that the casinos could take. Then limits/exclusions etc. could be handled there, rather than at all the thousands of casinos out there.
 

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The best IMO would be to have only one, well regulated, payment method that the casinos could take. Then limits/exclusions etc. could be handled there, rather than at all the thousands of casinos out there.

Yes, and that'd shut down the whole industry overnight.
 

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HaHaHa ...just had the laugh of the year and it is only January. :rolleyes: :D :D


quote UKGC:
Sarah Harrison said the regulator’s recent work had uncovered “a lack of curiosity, and at worst, a leadership culture which puts commercial gain over compliance”......sanctions were likely to include “higher penalties”, particularly when a company was guilty of “repeated failings”........She called on companies to “raise your ambitions and your sights higher”, urging them to “step up the pace of change”
....wow, for real? :rolleyes:

quote the casino operators:
the Association of British Bookmakers, said it welcomed any efforts to uphold high standards of integrity.

“As a sector, we are always ready to work with the commission to raise standards and adhere not just to the regulatory and legal frameworks in place, but to the commitments in our responsible gambling code which go beyond that

EMPTY WORDS!!! The usual 'we will get tough' on one side and 'we will always do our best' on the other side followed by a silent....... "we all know that nothing is going change"

Nobody hurting the other too much as long as the license fees are paid and the tax dollars are flowing. They fined three big bookies to the tune of 2mio and that after months of negotiating a deal!!!! What is there to negotiate???? :eek: The board of directors at those bookies are sitting in their plush offices high fiving each for getting away with such a small fine and are having just like me the laugh of the year! :rolleyes:

EDIT: But very important...players can do only 100 auto spins now....what an achievement for a years work! well done UKGC :thumbsup: :eek:
 

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Why do you think that?

Right so you have players that do bank transfer, ezycash, pay vouchers, credit card, paypoo, debit card, Skrill and Neteller mobile phone etc.

So this 'one wallet' or pay system has got to be set up to take deposits by ALL those methods. So who operates this one payment method? Neteller and Skrill would fold overnight as it makes them pointless if your method of funding them two goes over to the new one. All these other payment methods would just fold up without a struggle then?

Then there would likely be another level of commission firstly from your card/vouchers or whatever then another from the new wallet?

So the occasional player has got to fuck about firstly loading the single wallet up and the load the casino with that? He goes down the shop, buys his voucher, then has to open another payment account to load his voucher on BEFORE he even plays. He'd likely give up.

The revenue lost to the casinos unable to be taking direct deposits would kill them.

The players would simply go to shithouse sites where deposits are easy and avoid all the 'good' sites or licensed sites that were in the scheme.
 

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Right so you have players that do bank transfer, ezycash, pay vouchers, credit card, paypoo, debit card, Skrill and Neteller mobile phone etc.

So this 'one wallet' or pay system has got to be set up to take deposits by ALL those methods. So who operates this one payment method? Neteller and Skrill would fold overnight as it makes them pointless if your method of funding them two goes over to the new one. All these other payment methods would just fold up without a struggle then?

Then there would likely be another level of commission firstly from your card/vouchers or whatever then another from the new wallet?

So the occasional player has got to fuck about firstly loading the single wallet up and the load the casino with that? He goes down the shop, buys his voucher, then has to open another payment account to load his voucher on BEFORE he even plays. He'd likely give up.

The revenue lost to the casinos unable to be taking direct deposits would kill them.

The players would simply go to shithouse sites where deposits are easy and avoid all the 'good' sites or licensed sites that were in the scheme.


Dunover has got a point here.
 

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What the hell have the UKGC done to their website recently? Impossible to find anything anymore, seems more and more geared towards b2b than consumers.

Hopefully they are signed up to the Open Government license so I can use the raw data to make life easier!
 

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What the hell have the UKGC done to their website recently? Impossible to find anything anymore, seems more and more geared towards b2b than consumers.

Hopefully they are signed up to the Open Government license so I can use the raw data to make life easier!

Yes, I noticed that too. Piss poor navigation. Well, they do fuck-all else so at least they have had time to paint the turd gold. :mad:
 

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Also, where were they at ICE? The likes of Isle of Man and Kahnawake were there, but the UKGC were absent - Well Dunover and I couldn't find them.

They were certainly there in 2016.

They didn't have a stand, but many from the organisation were there walking the show floor & talking to us that were exhibiting (inc Sarah Harrison, who was also one of the speakers at the
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