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Look man, I don't claim to know anything about the Isle of Man, other than this oft- repeated, historically accurate snippet
Look man, I don't claim to know anything about the Isle of Man, other than this oft- repeated, historically accurate snippet
I'm jumping on a Stena Line soon - think they'll let me stay at the posh hotel outside Belfast on the basis i came on a boat and am fleeing the SNP? To be fair, it's probably as legitimateSomething seriously mental going on here, treating these boat folk like visiting minor royalty! Priorities ass about face, this would not have happened in the 1980-90s.
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A lot of shouting at the clouds here....
Twelve years of Tory rule, plus you all got your Brexit, and a hard one at that, yet the dinghy people are still coming and getting put up in nice hotels - sucks I guess. We can't blame the EU anymore but I see dunover has now identified that it's the UN's fault, so we have a new bogeyman at least.
Maybe we could opt out of the UN too, or perhaps blast England off into outer space and establish it as its own colony, in a sort of 'Earthexit' manoeuvre, and really show the rest of the planet who's boss.
It's natural to look around for someone or something to blame, the Tories have failed, Brexit has not only failed on its own terms but it's actively harmed the UK too, by costing it around £100bn per year in economic activity and weakening it on the world stage. Plus we lost the Dublin Regulation which as an EU member meant we could send the dinghy people back to the first safe EU country they'd arrived in (which we did do as an EU member), but we can't do that anymore.
Union Jacks all round.
Tick tock, tick tock, Brexit will get reversed, it's inevitable, and only a matter of time.
Sigh I believe the point goes over Chopley's head again. The problem isn't Brexit, the problem isn't the UN. It's the implementation of said policies that have failed that would've continued to fail regardless of whoever was in charge (SnoutFucker Cameron or Marxist Corbyn). The point is that regardless of which side you pick, the lot of them are selfish self-serving incompetent individuals.
And if you truly believe Brexit will get reversed, then I'm also believing my next bonus buy on an NLC slot will be max win, honest!
let's not be the hatred, it's easy to hate.
Iirc you have said some things regarding Rees Farage and Nigel Mogg that could be mistaken for this emotion?
Funny how 'GDP' is becoming a very commonly heard word these days - almost a buzz word, I don't recall it being mentioned much when we had the 2008 crash...
On the upside the self inflicted wound of brexit saves us a guaranteed £10 billion of govt tax money annually come rain or shine.
£10bn annually 'saved' against a permanent annual £100bn loss of economic activity, all of which would have generated tax revenues and employment here in the UK. What a deal!
If you've got any £50 notes you'd like to swap for fivers, so you can declare, 'Look everyone, I just made a fiver!', let me know and I'll pop round
£100 bn loss of 'economic activity' - so you're telling me there is 100bn out there in europe, itching to buy services or products from us, but the free trade deal we signed with the EU is stopping them?
First off mack, it's not really a 'free trade deal', all it essentially did was agree not to impose any tariffs, but still subjected the UK to all the red tape and hassles of being a third country outside the EU and critically, outside the Single Market and Customs Union.
The damage is calculated to be around £100bn in lost economic output, every single year, denying the UK Treasury around £40bn in tax receipts, every single year.
Secondly, yes a lot of the EU would like to trade more with us than they have since Brexit, but as many UK exporters to the EU are finding, and vice versa, all the extra costs and hassle make it not worth their while. (Although we still haven't even implemented all the post-Brexit controls we should have on imports to the UK, which is partly why they found all that rotting meat being sent to the UK through Dover a couple of months ago, documented a bit earlier in this thread.)
This isn't theoretical anymore, it's not 'Project Fear', it's now established fact with a mountain of evidence to back it up - Brexit is hurting the UK economically to a massive degree. (Exactly like all those pesky experts said it would, back in 2016.)
If you haven't watched it already, I'll politely suggest you take 28 minutes out of your day to watch this, it's all there with the facts and figures to back it up.
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