turning little into much...favorite method?

[78musicman]

I'm probably like most here, in that I love turning $25 into $250 into $2500, but it doesn't happen often..lol! I usually play with $1.00 bets and hope to hit something large. Seldom do I up the bet to $2.50 or more...maybe I should. Anyone care to share their favorite method for betting to get a decent cash-out? $25 into at least $1,500 on these games:

Realm To Riches
Triple Toucan
Lucky Last
Crystal Waters

78musicman

 

[Nifty29]

I'm probably like most here, in that I love turning $25 into $250 into $2500, but it doesn't happen often..lol! I usually play with $1.00 bets and hope to hit something large. Seldom do I up the bet to $2.50 or more...maybe I should. Anyone care to share their favorite method for betting to get a decent cash-out? $25 into at least $1,500 on these games:

Realm To Riches
Triple Toucan
Lucky Last
Crystal Waters

78musicman

Hi musicman

Well, you're right. It's tough to turn $25 in to $250 let alone $2500....but not impossible.

I guess there are many 'methods', but it really comes down to being in the right place at the right time.

My view is that you need a balance between playtime and bet size. i.e. You can deposit $25 and play .20c spins, but you are very unlikely to make $100 (a 500x bet win is rare).

My way of doing things with small deposits, is to take a 100% bonus and play between .75c and 1.25 bets. If you do hit something like a 500x bet, at least you will get around $500 which would mean you could easily meet the wagering. The downsize is that can bomb out fairly quickly....but as I said if you do have a few nice hits you don't have $,000s of wagering to get through. The more single bets you place, the more you expose yourself to the house edge, so you want to meet the WR with as few bets as possible whilst giving yourself a reasonable chance not to bust out....and again, it's really down to luck.

Some players always deposit the maximum allowed for a match bonus, and place bigger bets than normal in the hope of getting a monster and then grinding out the wagering with relatively small bets, and this method has merit too. However, the fact is you need a reasonable bankroll to absorb the big losses you will incur in between the wins. I guess at least if you deposit $25 at a time, it isn't going to bankrupt you however you should be prepared for less play time.

You really need to choose between whether you want big wins, or more playtime. It's very difficult to achieve both IMO.

 

[H1_Roller]

I actually play the same kind of bet regardless of my bankroll (averaging £1.50 - £3 per spin). But I will move around a lot, preferably after I've hit something decent/good/big on my current game.
I like to play until I at least get a good bonus game or free spins. I will then play 10 or 15 spins after a good win and will stay if I feel the game is worth playing on.
I also alter the coin value of a slot to see if it plays better with a 10p coin value than it was with a 5p value.

The way I play, I have turned a £150/£200 deposit into well over £2000 many times

 

[sparkz]

Mine has tended to be ALWAYS play with all cash and NO BONUSES!!

If im trying for something big then I always try and make sure I have potential a relatively high deposit amount.

I start off by depositing maybe $50. then play blackjack. If I lose 10 hands in a row or something like that then I know full well the casino is playing tight, thus its not going to be my day so I come back later.

If things seem to be going ok on blackjack I try to get a nice balance to play with (so if I start with $50 I try to get it to $120). Then I get on the slots.

My method with slots is to bet quite low to start with (possible 40c or 60c a spin), then if I lose $20 or so of my balance I start betting higher (usually $1+ a spin) and hope I hit a bonus round of something big. If I hit something nice I lower my stakes again and continue playing or change slot.

If I end up continually losing however I go back to blackjack, try to put my balance up again and of course repeat the process.


Some sessions I play like for hours and have a big lot of winnings but then the slot tightens up and when I go to blackjack it eats my remaining balance, however a few of the times I have been lucky with this method.


Recent withdraws with my method:

MG casino - $3800 (Made about 15 deposits of $50 each time to get that much, the last deposit was a frenzy, played BJ, bet something like $40 1st hand, then $75 second, then played 8 or 9 more hands at $125 a hand, the luck went my way and I won all of those hands whilst getting BJ a few times, which put my bankroll back up to over $1000, then hit some nice wins on slots at $1+ spins, followed by a load more winning hands on BJ to finish the balance . Technically the $3800 came from a $50 deposit)

MG casino - $7900 (Again made a few deposits, 6 in total I believe, each totalling $80 a deposit. Once again my last deposit of $80 was what got my balance that high. Frenzied high bets on BJ made the 1st $3000, then even higher than usual bets on slots of $2+ got me a further few wins combined to $2500, finally some more luck on BJ and a final $700 free spin hit on "reel baron" gave the final balance)

In all fairness it doesnt always work for me like that. Blackjack can be my best friend by then easily switch to my worst enemy. Those times it did my balance well and won most of my cash but all too often it has the reverse effect where slots put me up nicely and BJ takes it away

 

[DiamondGeezer]

Hi musicman



My way of doing things with small deposits, is to take a 100% bonus and play between .75c and 1.25 bets.

Nifty ru bonus scum???

Is u an advantage player Nifty?

 

[LondonDJ]

My style is to try and make lots of smaller cashouts over a period of time. I start with a £50 deposit usually and bet anywhere from 50p to £3 depending on how I'm feeling and how the slot seems to be playing. I vary my stake a lot when I play.

If I hit a biggie (usually anything over 100) then I try and cash that out and keep playing with a balance of 50-100. An example from about 5 mins ago on High Noon:



Not a great example actually, as this is one of those ultra-rare 400x (or something) hits. a better example would be a series of 50x-125x hits. Nice pic though isn't it?

This method allows me to keep playing for relatively longer than if I was high-rolling, and when you switch to a higher stake AND hit a bonus round AND it makes like a mother*%I&...well, let's say it feels great. Just like this one from Cashapillar:



As always, good luck all!

 

[rainmaker]

Nifty ru bonus scum???

Is u an advantage player Nifty?

Oh, you forgot to use a smiley. I assume you comment was meant to be a joke.
You should add the "joke-smiley" for full effect--->

 

[chayton]

Some good tips here! Although I think Nifty said it best, it's being in the right place at the right time, especially playing slots.

 

[secret2]

My best ever..

..was turning a ND bonus of $25 into a cash -out into QT () of the max allowed ..$250, then taking that to another casino and taking some of that cash out with bonus of 100% and then taking the winnings of that to QT() to another casino and finally cashed out over $1400 from originally a free chip.

I never bet over $1 a spin and never tried the Progressives. Because that is a sure fire way to lose something for nothing.

I start off betting low (40c ) a spin and then when I 'feel' it, then UP it goes to 80 cents.

If RTG, then Mystic Dragon and all the others that have a min of 25c,50, 75, cents and so on (as opposed to the others at 20, 40 , 60..and so on) then I only play them when I am truly up...and then after the wager requirements, then it's only 1.25...never more....ok, maybe once or twice after a 'buzz':;

 

[DiamondGeezer]

Oh, you forgot to use a smiley. I assume you comment was meant to be a joke.
You should add the "joke-smiley" for full effect--->

Yes it was a joke. But sort of a serious point too, glass houses and all that...

 

[rainmaker]

Yes it was a joke. But sort of a serious point too, glass houses and all that...

Funny guy

About your serious point...you know, there is a difference in betting €400 on a first bet playing roulette, in contrast to spin on a slot with 0,75p bets

Anyway, enough of these off-topic things.

 

[Nifty29]

Funny guy

About your serious point...you know, there is a difference in betting €400 on a first bet playing roulette, in contrast to spin on a slot with 0,75p bets

Anyway, enough of these off-topic things.

Don't feed the trolls rainmaker

 

[Pulver]

I have on a few occasions managed to turn a relative small deposit into a $2-3k. It is a very hard thing to do, and it involves a higher risk than regular low rolling.

Wins over 2-300x your bet are very rare, you have to be, in other words, very lucky to run a $100 into several $k's using a low betsize like $1 a spin.

Using a deposit match bonus with no max cashout will give you the opportunity to bet bigger without increasing the risk. There is always the point of meeting the WR. But the way I see it. If im going to play, im going to play untill my money runs out or untill I hit a big win. I therefor have no problem with a WR of 2-3000. I am going to play the slots anyways.

The times I have been lucky and been able to run a $100 deposit up to $2-3k is by progressivly betting bigger. I usually end up with a betsize around $3-6. Get some lucky free spins features at that bet size and you will see your balance shoot up. The problem is ofcourse that your balance will get eaten up in a blink of an eye if lady luck is not on your side. At the bigger betsizes I prefer low variance slots like Ho Ho Ho, where free spins are quite frequent (around 1\100 if I remember correctly).

It all about risk\reward. The higher the risk, the larger the potential reward.

Another way is ofcourse to play the very high variance slots like Break da Bank again and hope for a monster hit. But remember, those hits are few and far between.

 

[jod5413]

Sorry for the little derail, folks.

You three, DiamondGeezer, Rainmaker, and Nifty need to not be so snarky! You are going to get ME in trouble if you do not settle down!!! You all know how I get sometimes!!

 

[The Dude]

Yes it was a joke. But sort of a serious point too, glass houses and all that...

You don't need to verbalize every thought process. Thank you.

 

[chayton]

I'm coming to the sad realization that the days of me being able to deposit 20/30/40 dollars and make enough to cash out are gone. I used to be able to do it, but nowadays if I have 20/30/40 to start, I'm lucky to get it up to $100 before busting out - most of the time my balance is barely above my original deposit, or it's straight downhill.

 

[Jasminebed]

I don't feel comfortable making big bets, but I do sometimes hoping for something big. Most of my biggest wins have came from smallish deposits, and part of that has to do with my mindset.

Sometimes you just get lucky. You need to get less lucky to cashout $400 than $1000.

Statistically, your best play to turn $50 into $2000 is to just bet $50 on your first spin (and don't take a bonus). Make that a roulette spin, or some other table. (BTW, I love my slots and don't play this way).

Be prepared to mostly lose.

If you are more like me, if you start with 25, it's to entertain you, not to win a fortune. Maybe bet 40 cents a spin. Get something, up your bet. It does happen on small bets, but you are not very likely to win enough small bets to be up $1k, let alone more. It's still pretty rare to hit a $1K hit on a dollar, but less rare than on 20cents.

But when I do hit a bigger cashout, I buy some stuff that I could have afforded if I didn't gamble.

Mostly it's take-out and booze and silly stuff like new linens or cushions that I do without to afford gambling. If I didn't spend that $25 gambling, I would have spent it on one of the above, and not have saved it for the bigger purchases.

I'd say that start small to keep you playing, up it a bit as your bankroll rises, and sometimes call it quits before you are broke is not a bad strategy.

I did much better after I lowered my cashout goals to 300/500 from $1K. I blew $600 or $800 or $950 a bunch of times. I blew $2300 once, but that was down to reverse withdrawal syndrome, a different disorder.

Maybe even mathematically I would have did better to carry on, but I feel better about taking $699 when I was up to $850, rather than carry on to 1 k or bust.

But one spin of the european roulette wheel on a single number of $25 pays $900. If the table allows, bet it all red or black. Then you have $1800. Or not. I don't really want my gambling session to be over that quick. Geez, that's the night I might be lucky, lol.

There is a reason casinos ban this kind of play from bonuses. It's your best chance to win.

I like taking bonuses, I like the goal they give me. I hate losing $30 in less time than it took to get my beer and have my first ciggie.

Fees for gambling eat up a certain amount, and while you can cashout to ewallets, it's not really your money until it's in your bank account. And even then, I have to play some back.

I've yet to buy new seat cushions with any winnings.

Oh, and can up I my vote on posting while drinking to OCCASIONLY

 

[DiamondGeezer]

Sorry for the little derail, folks.

You three, DiamondGeezer, Rainmaker, and Nifty need to not be so snarky! You are going to get ME in trouble if you do not settle down!!! You all know how I get sometimes!!

Good point I get the message and don't wish to turn into a bore...

The best way I know is to take a decent bonus when one comes along. Not saying you have to turn yourself into some kind of bonus ho but if you are in good standing at the casino and they are offering then why not take one once in a while?

It's like at the supermarket some customers will look for all the two for one offers while others will be short of time and happy to pay full price. One method is not better than another and all customers and the supermarket can be happy. Bonuses can be this way too a win win situation for everybody.

There is no need for insane high risk gambles if you follow the KK way you can still do well and have a lot of fun too.

As Jasmine said don't take on too much risk and shoot for impossible targets. Also NEVER EVER try and hit round numbers like $1000 or whatever.

Remember the typical house edge of slots of around 5% is an enormous edge for the casino. Play too long and that edge will gobble you up.

Take regular bonuses and don't play too long is my 2c. Give yourself the best chance you can.

 

[plasticnote]

i just wonder if there are still chances low rolling to win big? I have been high rolling/low rolling for few weeks in some rtg and mg casinos. And 15K lost. I think I need take a break.

I did turn 200 to 15K last year in a MG casino. my methods is:
get a high variant slot and try to get feature with in 20 spins.
I tried and I got it. Not much differences with buying lottos

 

[De Beuker]

I dont think any method is better or more succesfull than any other.
It all comes down to luck, or, as Nifty said, beeing in the right place at the right time.

The only time I ever low-rolled my balance up to almost 2K was when I was playing a free chip with a $50.- max. cashout.

No less than 3 monsterhits in less than an hour, first the crowns on the first 4 reels in free spins on Realm of Riches, which paid 800.- on a 0.40 spin, then I got all 5 pagodes with wildkicker on Year of Fortune for $700.- on a 1.- spin, then Tritons Treasure paid a huge one in free spins, close to $600.- on a 1.25 bet.

It really hurts to see such a balance beeing reduced to 50 bucks...

But if you're playing 1.- spins, play slots that have the potential for those big hits.
Mystic Dragon, Realm of Riches, Raindance, Paydirt... but it might take a while.. those are very, very rare.

Best I ever did was turning a 20.- straight deposit into 1000.- with BDBA.

 

[LOOKAWAY]

I normally cashout when play thru is achieved, but I always play to the next feature which a lot of the time busts me out because I end up with no much to withdraw so I play on.

I never try to hit a certain number to be able to cashout, when I've seen enough free spin rounds and played long enough I roll out completely. And if I still have time to Gamble I see out the day on a free chip.

The only time I tried to hit a number was at 3Dice when I won $50 bucks on a Bronze loyalty tourney. My wagering was about to come up done and the next feature ate up a bit to much and left me on $995 I said when I started with I think nearly $200 over $1k I wanted at least $1k to withdraw. It was almost certain to get me that but dead spin after dead spin then the feature left me on $995 so I played on and zeroed out. The sick thing was after I ran dry I remembered I had over $5 in comps that were cashable.

I normally gamble like this: I play 100 spins at the lowest bet size, then I up my bet and gamble my whole balance within 100 spins, so If I have $100 left after 100 spins on minimum bets I bet $1 to I hit feature or bust out, sometimes I up my bet when I get a good win on the base game depends on the slot. Low variance slots I start out on 50 spins. If I'm up after the first feature I leave the slot completely even if I still want to play the slot. If I roll my balance up I wouldn't repeat the process with bets bigger than $5, when the wagering is nearly up and say I have about $60 left to go I would play 50 spins at 0.15 cent (low variance slot) then up to 0.45 a spin to the next feature, then cashout.

As this is a gambler advice thread this is my 2 cents on taking either free chips or loyalty free chips.

I see a lot of posts on this forum about players winning big on free chips when they are a regular depositor at said casino and they wish they hadn't taken the bonus in the first place.

My advice to this problem would be to play only the slots you would never play with your own money.

 

[gananana]

Progressive

Most people here use progressive staking. But I am afraid of casinos making games tighter for progressive players and high stakes. I played thousands and thousands of spins between 10 - 30 cents, and max 150x bet.
Then I had once 600x bet with 9 cents, once x 1000x bet with 5 cents, and finaly once 2000x bet while playing guess what .... 1 cent. Thats it.
In B&M casino I reguraly got 1000x bet, and was in small profit without bonuses. Your opinion ?

 

[FreeDomme]

Most people here use progressive staking. But I am afraid of casinos making games tighter for progressive players and high stakes. I played thousands and thousands of spins between 10 - 30 cents, and max 150x bet.
Then I had once 600x bet with 9 cents, once x 1000x bet with 5 cents, and finaly once 2000x bet while playing guess what .... 1 cent. Thats it.
In B&M casino I reguraly got 1000x bet, and was in small profit without bonuses. Your opinion ?

It is entirely possible to have a separate return for each coin denomination. It is standard practice in Las Vegas and well within Gaming Commission rules.

 

[pmhcfc]

Perhaps this is a 'horses for courses' scenario.

As much as we'd love to turn a small deposit into a large withdrawal, common sense tells us that's unlikely to happen. If, in the past, I've deposited £50 I tended to low roll in the hope of getting that to £100, then £200 and beyond, without really setting a limit of withdrawing. Countless times in the past I've gotten that initial deposit up by x4, x 5 and beyond but rarely withdrew. The first time I ever played at an MG casino I turned a £20 deposit into a £6000 withdrawal - it's never happened since, well not to that degree.

Things have changed though, even with small deposits I was able to get some decent play time out of that said deposit but over the years the enjoyment of small deposits, low-rolling and getting decent play time (for my money) has greatly reduced, the 'fun' went out of it, and this was one of the reasons I virtually stopped playing.

Just recently I decided to 'go back in' and picked a couple of (what I thought) were decents casinos. But nothing's changed really, the old tried and trusted method of small deposits & low rolling to get some decent play time still doesn't seem to work, which is a shame because the fun element is still missing...so I'm not sure what the answer is.

It does show how times have changed over the years...I deposited quite a significant amount at an MG casino (I won't name names just yet) over the past few weeks (awful habit resurfaced for a mad few days) and they were quite happy to take my money without so much as a twitch...I ask to withdraw a measly $100 and suddenly I get the Spanish Inquisition...I don't have the documentation they are asking for so I don't know what I'm supposed to do My point is this...times have changed and so has online gambling so what once worked, re the subject of this thread, doesn't now. So if anyone does have the answer please let me know- cos if was still fun then I'd still play.

 

[Nate]

Turning $25 into $1000 or more takes patience, but mostly luck. There are several methods you could use:

The two I often use are as follows:

1.Play a decent size bet first off on a small deposit. I did this 3days ago on an MG Casino. (I had cashed out about $10k already on BDBA after hitting the notes x 5 in the base game on a $22.50 bet >>> See Winner Screenshots. I often go off the rocks and bet insanely, but cash out when I win)....

In any event, I did not want to carry the Bet high or Bust attitude to my next session so, I started with the 100% match up to $25...$50 at an MG to play with. Started on $1.80 bets on BDBA (High Variance) and managed to hit the FS quickly. Got up to $500 from that. I then dropped my bet size to between 0.90c and $1.20. I managed to (over a day or two) convert this to $3000. Cashed out $2500 and left about $400 to play with... Up and down on that balance and eventually bombed out.

I would suggest you play a High Variance game if you make headway earlier (at a bet size that can last your balance and give you at least 400 - 500 spins) and move to a few lower variance games. Trust me, the $10 and $20 hits you get there, can tally up. I also often leave a slot after getting 30x upwards on a win. I don't stick around after winning 30x or more in the base game or feature unless the Slot is paying. If i have lost say $100 and win $30, i try to stick around to break even or peak a few $$ above my start balance on that game.

I always want to leave the slot in a profit, whether it's $5 or $100. This ensures that I have a few $$ extra to move onto the next game.

2. I deposit a small amount, say $25 and low roll on a high variance game ... I love BDBA so I would use this as a reference. I play 0.27c to 0.45c spins until I get the feature. If I don't get the feature and drop to say $15 or even $10, I move to another game where I know 0.18c may get me $5 - $10. I move on to games like Spring Break or TS1. 0.09c to 0.45c (dependent on balance) until I hit something decent.... I will repeat the process and go back to BDBA... then to other low variance games. The lower your bet on a small balance, the better your chances of hitting something and upping your balance or subsequently upping your bet for a bigger hit.

Obviously, this is not gospel, and boils down to luck. It has worked for me a few times and I was able to cash out decent sums. The last was about 2 days ago ...$2500 and previously (about 2 months ago) I turned $10 into about $3800 at Ladbrokes. I have had the odd $400 to $900 in between.

Good Luck, respect your balance, don't think you are invincible on any balance (I'm Guilty) and don't wager off the charts. Making money is NOT Instant...unless you go for the Kill or hit a Progressive. Have patience to play at lower bet sizes. Even when I'm sitting on a $1500 balance, I'll still play only 0.90c bets on BDBA...

Nate