Transgender conference delegates have to wear "safe space coloured badges"

[steveh35]

A transgender conference in London gave academics a colour coded badge to wear which signified whether they could be approached or not

Green - I will speak with other delegates and welcome you to approach me
Yellow - I will approach you if I wish to speak
Red - I do not wish to speak with other delegates
Blue - I am a conference orgainiser and I am here to assist you.

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What is going on with millenials.

By the way being colour blind I would have loved winding them up by deliberately speaking to the ones wearing red then accusing them of picking on me for my disablility.

 

[steveh35]

The fun you could have if you were wearing a yellow badge and another person was wearing a yellow badge who approaches who?
If you are an organiser and don't want to assist what colour badge do you wear?
All the red wearers stood in the corner looking aimlessly around because no one can speak to them.

 

[Dinahnana]

Safe spaces are for your bloody house, not the real world. People cannot be protected by being perpetually offended by dumb shit. Imagine these snowflakes will be running/ruining the world in the next 20 years. BTW I think most Transgender people are normal and would scoff at this colour coded badges nonsense.

 

[Playford7]

More clown world stuff.
Trans is a mental disorder and shouldn’t be classed in anyway as ‘normal’ it’s really not..

 

[ESCJAMIE]

More clown world stuff.
Trans is a mental disorder and shouldn’t be classed in anyway as ‘normal’ it’s really not..

You are literally disgusting transphobic trash and that goes to anyone who likes hes post.

 

[The Dude]

More clown world stuff.
Trans is a mental disorder and shouldn’t be classed in anyway as ‘normal’ it’s really not..

Not cool. I would recommend using more discretion when making posts like this. What is "normal" in this case is pretty subjective to your own opinion.

 

[shadow123]

You are literally disgusting transphobic trash and that goes to anyone who likes hes post.

Dont know about it being a mental disorder but strictly speaking it is not normal,as it not practised by the majority.
I say live and let live , do your own thing, no ones business but your own but to say it is normal makes
the supposedly normal people abnormal.No axe to grind just saying

 

[bamberfishcake]

Why would you want to turn up, but not be spoken to?

How can it be called a conference?

The worlds gone even more madder........

 

[pinnit2014]

Why would you want to turn up, but not be spoken to?

How can it be called a conference?

The worlds gone even more madder........

To be fair, I turn up to work (well,mostly) and yearn for a day in which people don’t look at me, let alone speak to me

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Dont know about it being a mental disorder but strictly speaking it is not normal,as it not practised by the majority.
I say live and let live , do your own thing, no ones business but your own but to say it is normal makes
the supposedly normal people abnormal.No axe to grind just saying

What he said was transphobic comment end of discussion. And how it seems to be aloud to still be posted is quite revealing.

 

[paul7388]

What he said was transphobic comment end of discussion. And how it seems to be aloud to still be posted is quite revealing.

Depends on what way you look at it.

You might not agree with his post but in my opinion your reply was worse.

 

[bamberfishcake]

I like the different personalities on here.

Playford could confirm but dont think any offence was meant, just saying from my own experience with him in the forum.

Definition of normal:

conforming to a standard, usual, typical, or expected.

But i think the message is 'its ok to be different'.

 

[Jono777]

Question not an opinion: Where was all this "10" years ago?

 

[shadow123]

Find it quite irritating that certain subjects cant be discussed in a balanced way anymore, views on both sides get polarised
It seems that to be critical in any way is taboo and not to be tolerated which makes discussion a waste of time.
I dont think too many here can remember what free speech was (i am not being sarcastic),but its long since dead.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Question not an opinion: Where was all this "10" years ago?

It was no where and I tell you why it wasn't just like being gay 50 years ago, There was just as many gay people and people who had feelings as trans people but couldn't express them back then than now difference is people can be open in MOST countries without the threat of being hanged to death or killed for being who they truly are, People go on about there was noone of this back when I was a kid and the reason why cause it was not acceptable it was seemed as disgusting and one of the worse things you could be, Thank fuck we have moved on and its becoming acceptable for people to be who they are.

 

[bamberfishcake]

views on both sides get polarised

Totally agree. Without open discussion opinions cant be changed and animosity breeds.

Edit: Maybe this kind of topic would be good for the debate group

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Find it quite irritating that certain subjects cant be discussed in a balanced way anymore, views on both sides get polarised
It seems that to be critical in any way is taboo and not to be tolerated which makes discussion a waste of time.
I dont think too many here can remember what free speech was (i am not being sarcastic),but its long since dead.

You can 100% have an opinion on anything however its the words you choose to use that make that Opinion which can make it offensive such as calling trans people mentally ill

 

[irish-ranger]

You are literally disgusting transphobic trash and that goes to anyone who likes hes post.

Trash indeed sure I’ve been called worse..

 

[dunover]

This colour coding is nothing new, they're introducing it at Crufts this year apparently.

The dogs are all given a coloured collar by their owners to reflect their preferences.

Red - Keep other dogs away, I'll bite or snarl.
Blue - I'm friendly and any dog or owner can approach me.
Green - Any other dog is welcome to sniff my arse, although it may not be reciprocated.
Purple - I am harmless but a leg-shagger.
Pink - I am amenable to being mounted by other dogs.
Brown - I am amenable to being mounted by other male dogs.
Purple - I am harmless but like to sniff crotches.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Trash indeed sure I’ve been called worse..

Could of said worse tbh but didn't feel the need to

 

[bamberfishcake]

calling trans people mentally ill

yes, a mistake to generalise.

Lets be clear that being mentally ill is not an insult.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

yes, a mistake to generalise.

Lets be clear that being mentally ill is not an insult.

Calling a group of people "Mentally ill" is not an insult? maybe ask every trans person who has been called mentally ill you find its VERY offensive

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Its a generation thing Fully understand peoples views based on how they have been brought up, But most of it is just ignorance

 

[bamberfishcake]

Calling a group of people "Mentally ill" is not an insult? maybe ask every trans person who has been called mentally ill you find its VERY offensive

Like i said to generalise is too much but people are entitled to think abnormal behaviour is linked to abnormal psychology.

Not my opinion but felt i had to say it. I understand totally why it caused offence. Your attitude to shut him down is not constructive either though.

Dont mean to offend. Stuck my nose in a bit too far again.

 

[irish-ranger]

Could of said worse tbh but didn't feel the need to

So could I tbh but didn’t really want a forum ban lol good luck

 

[Mr_Slot5]

I take a very very dim view on anyone who is homophobic, transphobic etc.

One of my best friends is transgender and I saw the turmoil he went through in feeling like he couldn't be true to himself for fear of being beaten up. Not cool.

 

[Mouche12]

Mentally ill is quite offensive in this context, also given the fact that homosexuality used to be classified as a mental disorder in the earlier printings of DSM-II. This was removed in 1973. It was ignorance at the time but it's definitely not anymore.

 

[pinnit2014]

Mentally ill is quite offensive in this context, also given the fact that homosexuality used to be classified as a mental disorder in the earlier printings of DSM-II. This was removed in 1973. It was ignorance at the time but it's definitely not anymore.

AFAIK Transgender was removed recently as well from being classified as a MD.

 

[goatwack]

To be honest, we need these for the Meistermeet. 2 Reds please!

 

[Kroffe]

Dont know about it being a mental disorder but strictly speaking it is not normal,as it not practised by the majority.
I say live and let live , do your own thing, no ones business but your own but to say it is normal makes
the supposedly normal people abnormal.No axe to grind just saying

Weird reasoning, no?
List of what is not normal would be quite long if only what the majority did was normal.

Playing tennis, going for a run, driving a boat, go fish, etc.
All quite normal things, but hardly practised by the majority.

More than one thing can be normal. Being straight can be normal, and being transgender can be normal.

 

[paul7388]

Weird reasoning, no?
List of what is not normal would be quite long if only what the majority did was normal.

Playing tennis, going for a run, driving a boat, go fish, etc.
All quite normal things, but hardly practised by the majority.

More than one thing can be normal. Being straight can be normal, and being transgender can be normal.


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So i take it it is normal to believe you are a bear

 

[ESCJAMIE]

So i take it it is normal to believe you are a bear

HOW DARE YOU, Kroffe is 100% a bear

 

[Kroffe]

So i take it it is normal to believe you are a bear

Did you just assume my species?

Im transatlantic btw.


Edit: No wait, screw that, im Transformers.

 

[paul7388]

Did you just assume my species?

Im transatlantic btw.

Makes no odds to me if you are transatlantic. You could be a transformer for all i care.

Makes me think tho. Since you are a caring thing would that not make you a Care Bear and not a Pooh Bear. This whole thing confuses me.

 

[steveh35]

To be honest, we need these for the Meistermeet. 2 Reds please!

I was thinking that and which would Dunover choose, do you think he is a red badge no one speak or do you think he would choose yellow so he could choose who he spoke to?

 

[goatwack]

I was thinking that and which would Dunover choose, do you think he is a red badge no one speak or do you think he would choose yellow so he could choose who he spoke to?

Nah, he's more Green/ Yellow

As for the badges, I don't know

 

[steveh35]

Nah, he's more Green/ Yellow

As for the badges, I don't know

What if you decide to have a red badge then get lonely and want a green badge but then you get hassled and have to change to a yellow?

Is there a badge issuer and can you change badges if you wish could you have a mixed badge combination?

 

[Borgie]

What if you decide to have a red badge then get lonely and want a green badge but then you get hassled and have to change to a yellow?

Is there a badge issuer and can you change badges if you wish could you have a mixed badge combination?

Like a rainbow badge
Red and yellow and pink and blue ....

 

[goatwack]

What if you decide to have a red badge then get lonely and want a green badge but then you get hassled and have to change to a yellow?

Is there a badge issuer and can you change badges if you wish could you have a mixed badge combination?

We should just have mood rings. We can walk around with raised fists and our moods can be 'fluid' on the go

 

[Playford7]

You are literally disgusting transphobic trash and that goes to anyone who likes hes post.

Sorry it’s my opinion.
It’s already biologically proven we have two genders, I will not bow down to insanity to appease a tiny minority nor change my beliefs to suit.
No offence intended, if a opinion that’s scientifically correct hurts anyone tough.

 

[dionysus]

Sorry it’s my opinion.
It’s already biologically proven we have two genders, I will not bow down to insanity to appease a tiny minority nor change my beliefs to suit.
No offence intended, if a opinion that’s scientifically correct hurts anyone tough.

er, no
gender is not the same as sex
you might need to re-visit your idea of 'proofs' and 'science'

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Sorry it’s my opinion.
It’s already biologically proven we have two genders, I will not bow down to insanity to appease a tiny minority nor change my beliefs to suit.
No offence intended, if a opinion that’s scientifically correct hurts anyone tough.

But being transgender doesn't go against your view of there being two genders. Do you know what transgender is? Essentially you grow up hating your own body because in your mind you are trapped in the wrong body and are accepted by society as the gender that you don't want to be. Essentially, this leads to massive body dysphoria.

I saw my friend go through it all, so when I see comments that denigrate such individuals, I tend not to take too kindly to it.

How can people be so uneducated

 

[bamberfishcake]

im confused.

whats the difference between gender and sex?

Also, until now I have been comfortable with two facts:

1) Your created male or female as defined by your physical structure?

2) Anything that comes after that is a result of conditioning and genes?

 

[dionysus]

im confused.

whats the difference between gender and sex?

Also, until now I have been comfortable with two facts:

1) Your created male or female as defined by your physical structure?

2) Anything that comes after that is a result of conditioning and genes?

it's much more complicated/complex than a simple definition/llabel but in general:
one mostly refers to the biological state, the other, cultural/identity

 

[The Dude]

All I know is I'm a flaming lesbian trapped in a man's body. Red collar please.

 

[bamberfishcake]

it's much more complicated/complex than a simple definition/llabel but in general:
one mostly refers to the biological state, the other, cultural/identity

Thanks.

So confusing.

I think the word has been skewed over recent times...

Old Oxford -

1. Properly, kind; sort.

2. A sex, male or female. Hence,

3. In grammar, a difference in words to express distinction of sex; usually a difference of termination in nouns, adjectives and participles, to express the distinction of male and female. But although this was the original design of different terminations, yet in the progress of language, other words having no relation to one sex or the other, came to have genders assigned them by custom. Words expressing males are said to be of the masculine gender; those expressing females, of the feminine gender; and in some languages, words expressing things having no sex, are of the neuter or neither gender

New Oxford -

Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.

Easy to see where the confusion lays. That new term says its for the sexes also but 'especially' when considering social etc etc

 

[lockinlove]

You are literally disgusting transphobic trash and that goes to anyone who likes hes post.

I was about to start posting science, studies and research proving to you that transgenders on average suffer from mental illness and a large percent regret changing over and most have attempted suicide in their life time. But I can tell from your posts, you dont care about facts and rather "how you feel when offended"

I think its best to stay out of this discussion when I see casinomeister warn playford for a fairly harmless post but then not warn you for clearly breaking forum rules and calling another member trash.

Amazing how you folk parade around with such righteousness and can get away with it.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Sorry it’s my opinion.
It’s already biologically proven we have two genders, I will not bow down to insanity to appease a tiny minority nor change my beliefs to suit.
No offence intended, if a opinion that’s scientifically correct hurts anyone tough.

This has nothing to do with Genders 90% of trans community identify as trans male or trans female thats no difference to the 2 genders. Yes there are a small % who say theirs more than 2 genders but on the whole thats not the case, If you think that you are either 100% "male" or 100% female and theirs nothing in between fair enough but its not the case in many peoples lifes and we have to respect that.

 

[Playford7]

This has nothing to do with Genders 90% of trans community identify as trans male or trans female thats no difference to the 2 genders. Yes there are a small % who say theirs more than 2 genders but on the whole thats not the case, If you think that you are either 100% "male" or 100% female and theirs nothing in between fair enough but its not the case in many peoples lifes and we have to respect that.

Hence they are mad as a bag of frogs and need help not appeasement.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

I was about to start posting science, studies and research proving to you that transgenders on average suffer from mental illness and a large percent regret changing over and most have attempted suicide in their life time. But I can tell from your posts, you dont care about facts and rather "how you feel when offended"

I think its best to stay out of this discussion when I see casinomeister warn playford for a fairly harmless post but then not warn you for clearly breaking forum rules and calling another member trash.

Amazing how you folk parade around with such righteousness and can get away with it.

"Fairly harlmess post" Yeah ok sure cause calling trans people mentally ill is harmless, You know how many people each year self harm or take there own lifes due to throw away comments which you think is harmless, words have consequences you literally have no idea.

Im not here to start an argument I simply responded to what I and other thought was a uneducated bigot post. I cba going deep to deal about trans ect, Im not trans so I cant fully comment on what people are saying as it wouldnt be right of me to know all the answers ect, but what I am is apart of the LGBTQ+ community and when I see shit like that then I will speak up for my fellow small minority end off