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Pretty damn rare then.I've hit it once. But that was over 4 years ago.
You would expect to see it more often though, considering it only pays 166x stake
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Pretty damn rare then.I've hit it once. But that was over 4 years ago.
You would expect to see it more often though, considering it only pays 166x stake
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And one last thing. Just few recent things that happened
- slots being released with imaginary unlimited potential - not a big deal if you cant win more than xx even if there is no max win stated, and reels allow for basically unlimited win multiplier, because. idk what was the reason why its not important anymore tbh. We even have people saying its not even remotely similar to false advertising because. Because its slots so its cool.
- casinos being able to chose RTP for slots with help file not containing true RTP (or rtp at all), for playngo slots. Unlike UKGC casinos, casinos that cover the rest of the world still can get away with it. But hey its not a big deal. Now we found another provider offers different rpt settings, but we are not sure if casinos are showing current or default RTP, or whats the default rtp to begin with.
- not one, but 3 providers were providing fake versions of their slots via fun play. Thats 3 i know about. Who the ef knows how many were there anymore. Amatic, Wazdan and GameArt. Wazdan and gameart humbly agreed to change it, and release a big press conference saying "oops". Amatic still does it. Not a big deal.
thats just off top of my head and afaik, not once were any fines, fees, whatevers even mentioned. Hell nobody even said even "bad bad casinos/developers shame on you". Its like it never happened
and thats just the recent stuff, and none of it includes players being scammed by random (non ukgc) casinos on daily basis and thats something that has, sadly become a completely normal and accepted thing among slot players.
Im not getting into playtech or betfair issues that were pretty huge but ultimately ended up being "resolved" because casinos showed some "good will". Thats what this market has lead us to, being dependent on casinos/providers good will to solve things.
Thats why i said its such a badly regulated market, and its not necessarily related to RTP.
Its a combination of the little things that should be visible to players at all times, but are not because apparently transparency is so 90's. If we also add shady things 100's of random casinos are doing on daily basis, and slot developers being able to get away with just about anything simply by fixing it whenever someone figures out something is wrong, without any danger of being fined... thats what makes me, for one not willing to blindly trust this market as a whole.
edit: Mind you i double checked your answers and i couldnt find anything about vikings slots which are, or are not compensated? Im not an expert, but i play slots. And vikings go berzerk definitely doesnt fit that "On the press of the start button every win has to be achievable in every base game spin." rule, right? If vikings go missing, they are not achievable. So how was it allowed to pass whatever checks ...checking companies do?
maybe you did answer it but i really missed it and im not trying to be annoying or anything. But i do want to learn more about slots and how does all this work, and if it wasnt for you half of the stuff would still be locked somewhere in CIA confidental files, so even if sometimes i dont agree with you, thank you for all youve done and i really mean it
Games are copied but unless they have acquired the maths from somewhere (illegally or through licencing) then they will have had to come up with the maths themselves. Therefore it is not a copy in anything other than mechanics.
Also you can't copyright the look and feel of a game or a fame desigsn sothat's a non-starter. You can even patent original game designs in Europe although you can in the US.
Also please explain to be how 3c(iv) has anything to do with responsible gambling... Being that responsible gambling is mainly bout making sure people don't spend more than they can afford.
In my opinion Responsible gambling will be increased, rather than decreased, through having informed consumers which includes knowing the likelihood of losing and winning and not just an rtp figure based on playing through millions of spins.
'INFORMED CHOICE AND GAMBLING: PRINCIPLES FOR CONSUMER PROTECTION' Alex Blaszczynski et al 2008 The Journal of Gambling Business and Economics:
"It is well-established that problem gambling results, in part, from erroneous perceptions about the probability of winning. While individuals retain the ultimate responsibility over gambling choices and level of participation, optimal decision-making depends, among other factors, on the availability of reliable, comprehensive information."
...the industry must provide all relevant, pertinent and available information in a timely manner. Individuals will process and use this information to decide if they want to gamble or not. If they decide to gamble, they can use the information to assist in establishing their gambling limits
IIRC you did say yourself in another thread that the win odds are sometimes displayed on physical machines in some venues?
With a lot of players, apparently, wanting instant results theses days, rather than actually playing the games.
Casinos should maybe start doing 'Buy a Session'
Whereby you deposit £100, and then click on the appropriate buttons to select a game and a stake amount.
A message then instantly appears saying ......
"You lost your deposit in 1.5 virtual hours"
or "You made a profit of £50 after 1000 virtual spins."
Etc.....
Have you not seen Blitz spins ? Think its on casino heroes available on some netent games . Basically does what you say - shows results for 100 autospins without bothering to show the actual spins . It's not instant but its pretty damn fast
In Singapore the jackpot chances are shown yes...
Not seen them at all... I'll have a look in to them
EDIT: Found this...
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So remind me what the point is of playing a slot machine? Are there honestly players that done even want to see the outcome of ANY spins and literally just want to play it as if it were a scratchcard?...
I'm all for innovation but again this just looks like the exact opposite of RG...
Luckily in most jurisdictions there is a minimum game time so this won't affect those... But honestly I think this is a dangerous step for players. But I can absolutely see why games providers and casinos would want to do it... More money. Faster.
Have you not seen Blitz spins ? Think its on casino heroes available on some netent games . Basically does what you say - shows results for 100 autospins without bothering to show the actual spins . It's not instant but its pretty damn fast
You know what a provider should do? Come up with a loyalty currency that players can earn through an achievements engine which allows them to 'feature buy', then you can't spend your own money, and it's a loyalty/cash back thing where you get to play the feature.
Yeah, that would be cool. And maybe this provider should do this in 2012. Imagine that.
You know what a provider should do? Come up with a loyalty currency that players can earn through an achievements engine which allows them to 'feature buy', then you can't spend your own money, and it's a loyalty/cash back thing where you get to play the feature.
Yeah, that would be cool. And maybe this provider should do this in 2012. Imagine that.
@trancemonkey
Sorry, can I just ask...
This graphic that exists on 88 Fortunes. The pot that seems to fill up on the top screen as you get more of the wild symbols the actual graphic changes and the pot becomes more full.
I felt that this is misleading as it almost suggests the progressive pot feature is ‘due’ there’s a ‘max pot’ graphic which is displayed which won’t update, again I’ve had this graphic stay on the screen for 2 hours+ before it triggered the pots bonus.
Is it against compliance in the UK as its really naughty to suggest to the player that the pot is getting full and the feature is ‘due’ by the pot graphic looking more and more full.
Any thoughts?
Rob
Encouraging the gambler's fallacy ? How come that is allowed like casinos labelling slots as "hot" and roulette games showing past numbers as if it has any effect on the outcome of the next spin I guess it's player demand as much as anything in the case of roulette but casinos definitely don't do anything to dissuade players from thinking that they can somehow use skill to overcome the odds. Even picking games in slots pretending if you pick well you will get the big prizes..It's common on many many games now. It is a technique that shows the player "how long since last progressive". It's not against compliance as it isn't telling you a win is due soon... Just that it's been a while since it was last won...