Swedish license - Should I stay or should I go?

[ternur]

Basically there will be no more bonuses, responsible gaming will become very important, players would be able to be excluded from a game if they prefer, there will be less games to be played, there will be less providers, there will be less casinos to play at. And I think that soon they can only use bankID to register and/or login. E.g. new accounts in 2019 cannot login with a username and PW on our end. Only with their BankID. Previous customers can though.

That's great news. BankID and similar ID systems in the Nordic countries are considered as strong identification methods. I wish more operators would utilise these methods. Emailing or uploading scanned copies of IDs is a poor way to do KYC. It's not really more sophisticated than sending a fax or a telex.

On the topic of Sverige och licensiering: I hope the new system will be beneficial to players. But to me it's just another way to collect taxes.

It would be great to see uniform licensing in Europe. National licensing systems are forms of intricate control systems which have their benefits, but a level playing field would be more ideal. This is most likely an utopian dream considering the emphasis of "public morality" in all gambling related issues.

 

[budskap]

That's great news. BankID and similar ID systems in the Nordic countries are considered as strong identification methods.

This BankID only is the only really good thing I see for us, no more passwords and stuff to keep track of or hacked/guessed for that matter.

 

[Tirilej]

That's great news. BankID and similar ID systems in the Nordic countries are considered as strong identification methods. I wish more operators would utilise these methods. Emailing or uploading scanned copies of IDs is a poor way to do KYC. It's not really more sophisticated than sending a fax or a telex.

On the topic of Sverige och licensiering: I hope the new system will be beneficial to players. But to me it's just another way to collect taxes.

It would be great to see uniform licensing in Europe. National licensing systems are forms of intricate control systems which have their benefits, but a level playing field would be more ideal. This is most likely an utopian dream considering the emphasis of "public morality" in all gambling related issues.

I would say it's time to collect some taxes. How many of the companies in Malta isn't run by Swedes
Maybe there can be some more money going to those who needs help now because so far it hasn't been that much.

Nice Mix of Swedish and English

 

[dunover]

I would say it's time to collect some taxes. How many of the companies in Malta isn't run by Swedes
Maybe there can be some more money going to those who needs help now because so far it hasn't been that much.

Nice Mix of Swedish and English

Crikey! If taxes get any higher in Sweden you'll be invading Norway because it's so cheap

 

[Tirilej]

Crikey! If taxes get any higher in Sweden you'll be invading Norway because it's so cheap

No Swede can afford to go to Norway since their prises are a lot higher. They still come to us
We get some for our taxes so I believe our system is working a lot better than many others. I wouldn't mind leaving that discussion out of this thread though because even if I like you Dunny your political view on things is thousand miles away from mine

 

[L&L-Jan]

This morning we received our license, actually pretty funny because if you read through the document you could say: All British Casino got the Swedish license

 

[Tirilej]

This morning we received our license, actually pretty funny because if you read through the document you could say: All British Casino got the Swedish license

I hope you'll do good here, but I guess you already have a lot of Swedish customers so you know you'll do ok

Since I don't seem to have so many other reps to ask then I better have you to answer a couple of more questions.

I am playing in usd and euro everywhere, but for instance Casumo who will use BankID changed my currency to Sek. Will I be able to keep using what I have now or will I be forced to change?
Will we still be able to use ewallets like Neteller and Skrill? I can no longer use Trustly at Neteller so I start getting a bit scared now since I don't always want to use my bank.

 

[L&L-Jan]

@Tirilej start to change to SEK please Only SEK will be allowed from the 1st of January.
We have started to inform our customers with a non SEK account and providing them a solution.

 

[Tirilej]

@Tirilej start to change to SEK please Only SEK will be allowed from the 1st of January.
We have started to inform our customers with a non SEK account and providing them a solution.

Wow, and no casino but Casumo have done anything so far. I even signed up to a new casino using usd as late as last week
What about ewallets?

 

[L&L-Jan]

You will be able to use all the payment options as how they are available now. I would say casinos can still allow you to register and account with any currency. The problem is that all the new modules from Net Ent, MGS, NYX/SG and you name them, only support SEK from the 1st of January. Same on our end, but on the 1st if country during registration = Sweden, we automatically apply SEK as currency.

Kr. Jan

 

[kretz1]

@Tirilej start to change to SEK please Only SEK will be allowed from the 1st of January.
We have started to inform our customers with a non SEK account and providing them a solution.

I didn't get an email yet. Got euro as currency on most L&L sites.

 

[L&L-Jan]

I didn't get an email yet. Got euro as currency on most L&L sites.

Correct, just spoke to the team. They prepared everything, the mail wasnt yet sent.
Today the mail goes out!

Kr.

 

[dave1888]

Makes no odds to Swedish streamers as they are using play money anyway Well most of them are!

 

[EGO]

we have our Swedish license

 

[robby811]

we have our Swedish license

And they have a good active rep. here

 

[bebo67]

This showed up in my e-mail today, if it is of any help?
Dear Affiliate.
As you may know operating in Sweden online gambling will be regulated by their own license starting January 1st 2019. We are currently finalizing our license application but unfortunately this will take a bit longer than expected so our license will be slightly delayed.

We will launch a new brand targeting Swedish market due to 1 welcome offer/license requirement LuckyDino and CasinoJEFE will stop accepting players from Sweden on 25th December 2018.

Existing players will be moved to the new brand with affiliate tags. Note that if the same player exists on both LuckyDino and CasinoJEFE the affiliate who got the player first will get the tag.

Also 25th December onwards LuckyDino and CasinoJEFE will have pre-registration landing page to the new brand for Swedish traffic until its launched. Your affiliate tag is included automatically to that landing page, unless the player already exists on either of the brands as mentioned above.

We will let you know as soon as we have a go live date

 

[Tirilej]

This showed up in my e-mail today, if it is of any help?
Dear Affiliate.
As you may know operating in Sweden online gambling will be regulated by their own license starting January 1st 2019. We are currently finalizing our license application but unfortunately this will take a bit longer than expected so our license will be slightly delayed.

We will launch a new brand targeting Swedish market due to 1 welcome offer/license requirement LuckyDino and CasinoJEFE will stop accepting players from Sweden on 25th December 2018.

Existing players will be moved to the new brand with affiliate tags. Note that if the same player exists on both LuckyDino and CasinoJEFE the affiliate who got the player first will get the tag.

Also 25th December onwards LuckyDino and CasinoJEFE will have pre-registration landing page to the new brand for Swedish traffic until its launched. Your affiliate tag is included automatically to that landing page, unless the player already exists on either of the brands as mentioned above.

We will let you know as soon as we have a go live date

It might be for those that have accounts there, in case they haven't received any emails yet.

That's maybe the easiest way for some, to simply create a new casino. The requirements seems to be tough.

 

[kretz1]

Got this email from Videoslots few hours ago >>


We have made significant changes to your account today. The changes are due to Sweden introducing a new licensing system from January 1, 2019. Video slots were one of the first casinos to get one of these new gaming licenses, which is great fun for us and our customers in Sweden.

The new license will require VideoSlots to authenticate customers electronically. Therefore, today we have launched BankID as the login method on Videoslots.

The next time you log in to Video Slots, you must have a BankID available. You log in as usual with your email / username and password. In step 2 you verify yourself with BankID, including your social security number, and after that you will be able to access your account again.
Next time you log in, just enter your social security number and use your BankID.

More changes will take place in the next month that are in line with the new licensing rules.

• We will change our tools that you can use today if you feel the need to check your gaming to comply with the new license requirements.
• We will give you more clear information about your gambling at every login.
• We will introduce a clock showing how long you have been logged in.
• We will connect to a new database, Spelpaus.se, where a customer can easily turn off playing at all casinos that have a Swedish gaming license.
• Another change is that you will need to set a limit, for how much you allow you to login to your account for a certain period.

 

[electronictonic]

There's still plenty of 1668/JAZ casinos that will take your money, offering Swedish games from Netent and Play'n Go... - well, versions of them anyway.
I think it will all be OK when it settles down. I assume your allowed casinos can feed in games from servers licensed in the UK or other recognized jurisdictions?

Deary me, what are some of those f*ke streamers from Sweden going to do when they don't get their bonuses any more??

Simple, they will all fuck off to another country like Malta, as they need the steady kickback money from affiliate losses and the matches on every "deposit".

 

[Hrafnin38]

I´m welcoming this new legal act, finnaly getting rid of many rogue casinos and the ones with license finally have something to lose if they missbehave against the customers in form of a report to the swedish Lottery inspection. As a player you have to beware thou if you do chose to play on unlicensed casinos you might get slapped with taxation on a eventuall winning.
My advice to all fellow swedish players is to keep a constant eye and update on that list containing licensed casinos and the legal details.

 

[Tirilej]

An advice for other casinos that have applied for license in Sweden, then please if you only will allow people to log in through their mobiles then please tell them that.
I have no BankID on my mobile so Videoslots was a no go for me from today.

Edit: Old ladies shouldn't be forced to deal with technical problems. This one finally managed to solve it though

 

[eizei]

This is probably going to be the future going forward and I applaud many of the changes and requirements they're doing for the swedish licenses, but I do feel bad for players losing deposit bonuses. Personally as a low roller I play almost exclusively with bonuses and this kind of change would probably almost completely stop my online gambling. This particular change is most definitely not to the advantage of the player and I bet it was high fives all around at the casinos hearing this term being put into law.

 

[Tirilej]

This is probably going to be the future going forward and I applaud many of the changes and requirements they're doing for the swedish licenses, but I do feel bad for players losing deposit bonuses. Personally as a low roller I play almost exclusively with bonuses and this kind of change would probably almost completely stop my online gambling. This particular change is most definitely not to the advantage of the player and I bet it was high fives all around at the casinos hearing this term being put into law.

I don't think the casinos like it at all since it will be tougher for them to compete. They can only offer a good sign up bonus but then it will be about cashback and wager free spins. How will they make them stay?
Personally I love it that there will be no possibility to break any rules. You simply just play with your own money.

 

[eizei]

I don't think the casinos like it at all since it will be tougher for them to compete. They can only offer a good sign up bonus but then it will be about cashback and wager free spins. How will they make them stay?
Personally I love it that there will be no possibility to break any rules. You simply just play with your own money.

You are right, I did not really consider customer retention I was mostly thinking from the viewpoint of a player as playing with decent bonuses can be profitable in the long run or in the very least you won't lose anything close to what you would playing with raw cash every time. I understand from the government's point of view they wanted to stop offers that could incentivize gambling but I seriously wonder if that outweighs the cons such as the increased losses for players looking to entertain themselves for an evening for example. Surely casinos will still be giving swedish players some kind of offers such as free spins or cashback as you mentioned so does this really help the players even from the point of RG? Are swedish players in general better off because of this change? I think not.

 

[Tirilej]

You are right, I did not really consider customer retention I was mostly thinking from the viewpoint of a player as playing with decent bonuses can be profitable in the long run or in the very least you won't lose anything close to what you would playing with raw cash every time. I understand from the government's point of view they wanted to stop offers that could incentivize gambling but I seriously wonder if that outweighs the cons such as the increased losses for players looking to entertain themselves for an evening for example. Surely casinos will still be giving swedish players some kind of offers such as free spins or cashback as you mentioned so does this really help the players even from the point of RG? I think not.

It won't help people from getting addicted to gambling no, but since there also is a central database to exclude themselves and more RG controls the player needs to set himself, then I think most players will feel a bit more in control.
I at least hope so.
Then the fact that the casinos won't be able to market themselves as they have will help. It's been awful and their ads have been everywhere.