Squirrel Pike.
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All companies whether casinos or retailers or whatever have a responsibility to treat their customers in the most professional manner possible.
3Dice have a lot to learn from this thread.
Personally, I think all online casinos are blood suckers anyway so I will be swayed to the punter's point of view.
All online casinos should be banned. It's a sick hobby, a dangerous hobby and a hobby that should not be encouraged in any form whatsoever.
People who gamble online are either very lonely, socially inadequate or have a deep mental gambling problem.
Yes, that includes myself.
3Dice have a lot to learn from this thread.
Personally, I think all online casinos are blood suckers anyway so I will be swayed to the punter's point of view.
All online casinos should be banned. It's a sick hobby, a dangerous hobby and a hobby that should not be encouraged in any form whatsoever.
People who gamble online are either very lonely, socially inadequate or have a deep mental gambling problem.
Yes, that includes myself.
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Sorry, I find this funny.
I have deep mental problems, but that's about it.
Seinfeld...when Elaine is telling Jerry she faked "it" in the coffee shop...
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Why does there have to be something wrong with online gamblers? They can't be people who don't like to play golf or what have you?
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all i have to say is if you dish it out, you have to be able to take it
Skiny has been bashing 3dice for so long, he is going to have to be able to take the hits also
Enzo shouldn't have to sit back and let someone continously bash his business, anyone else in the same shoes would do the same, if someone was hurting my business, i would fight back
Skiny has been bashing 3dice for so long, he is going to have to be able to take the hits also Enzo shouldn't have to sit back and let someone continously bash his business, anyone else in the same shoes would do the same, if someone was hurting my business, i would fight backThe very fact that I've been willing to come here and say I won at this casino or that casino and that I've been willing to say this casino does this well and that casino does that well gives me full right to say when I'm not happy with a casino or game's performance. No forum should expect everyone to be soley positive if it wants to be realistic. If I like a casino I'm happy to tell you and explain exactly why. If I don't like a casino I'm well within my right right to give my opinion on that too. And if a casino doesn't like our opinions that's just too damn bad. Like I've said numuorous times, I've not said one personal thing about Enzo or his crew in this forum. Yet, time and time again he takes things to a personal level. He's incapable of remaining professional. It's that simple.
I agree with "If you don't like it don't play." Which is why I quit depositing at this casino a long time ago. It's true I come back sometimes out of bordom to play tournaments and I fully understand high variance but there are limits to what this can excuse. When I see games that are spinning literally zero up to and over 90% of the time until my balance reaches zero I have to ask exactly how high this variance has been set. Every 10,000th spin you might get your money back? I talk to other online players on a fairly regular basis. I talk to them in messenger, by way of email and here in this forum. Among other things we discuss the games and the casinos we play at. Out of all the casinos I've played at 3Dice seems to be the only one who finds it necessary to show up everytime a negative post is made to try to discredit the poster and sometimes even insult him. It's a sign of insecurity at least.
Loneliness is for people who don't enjoy their own company. I don't get lonely. In fact I quite enjoy being my myself, although I rarely am. There is nothing wrong with gambling as long as it's for entertainment. It's less expensive than dinner and a movie and far more interesting than Minesweeper.
all i have to say is if you dish it out, you have to be able to take it
I wasn't aware that our discussions about games and casinos were considered fights. I've said many good things about this casino in the past but I refuse to bring anything to my discussions but honesty and if my opinion is negative I refuse to flower it up. Now you say dishing it out... Again, I have never said anything personal about Enzo yet his method of defending his casino and games has been to insult and now this failed attempt to shame. I will repeat once again - Making a public announcement about my banishment from his casino has absolutely nothing to do with any discussion about the fairness of the slot games at 3Dice. This was quite simply a retaliation much the same as his publicly insulting me in his chat room for the benifit of his players since he knows I couldn't even log in to see it. There is absolutely no way anyone could consider this announcement warranted, mature or professional.
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guess what? now that your banned, we don't need to hear anymore about your rants with 3dice
now that your banned, we don't need to hear anymore about your rants with 3dice
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I dont feel lonely...unfortunately not...I have my wife
I do have a deep problem...actually very deep one...read above
...or read my signature....
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Completely agree with those statements. Irate customers are part of ANY business. Best to deal with it professionally even though the customer might be completely out of line.
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guess what?
That wasn't necessary...
guess what?
Well, the only thing I can say is that I'm glad whoever was behind you at your desk holding your skull in place with your eyelids propped open clicking links to my posts has finally released his grip. What a horrible experience it must have been all these months strapped to that chair reading page after excruciating page of never ending negativity about an online casino. Once your counseling is done we should have a party. Nothing fancy. Just something small... Maybe some streamers..... And a pony.
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lets invite Enzo Whats the name of your counselor again SKiny?- Joined
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Damnit!!!
I just spit my coffee all over the place and my husband is staring at me.
LMAO
This was my true goal all along. I can rest easy now knowing at least one person in the world has little sparklies all over her monitor and at least one or two keys that don't come up anymore when you press them.
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i know i got the zombierot tingles....and you dont wanna know where those ooze out!
anywho....i do not think its cool to nominate a post about a player being publicly kicked out of a casino...personally i think its rude. Enzo and Skiny may have beef.....but nominating a post for that is....just bitchy.
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i know i got the zombierot tingles....and you dont wanna know where those ooze out!
anywho....i do not think its cool to nominate a post about a player being publicly kicked out of a casino...personally i think its rude. Enzo and Skiny may have beef.....but nominating a post for that is....just bitchy.
...now i know i can marry you....
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you are my only one... left out...c'mon girls..dont make my life impossible...Im 59...(just play..ing around)
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Oh Kakata, we are just play...ing around too. :Angel:
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Reply.
Thanks for your reply Skiny & for not taking my post to personal.
As I said, I or no one really knows the full story but if what you say is true. no one in any business should result to personal insults.
But this discussion has gone from the slots of 3Dice to a question as to whether or not the 3Dice rep is professional. (maybe room for a different thread/discussion)
Cheers Matt
Thanks for your reply Skiny & for not taking my post to personal.
As I said, I or no one really knows the full story but if what you say is true. no one in any business should result to personal insults.
But this discussion has gone from the slots of 3Dice to a question as to whether or not the 3Dice rep is professional. (maybe room for a different thread/discussion)
Cheers Matt
And who's post took it from a slot game discussion to a personal attack?
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Skiny, just to get back on topic here......
(and I am certaintly not the biggest fan of 3Dice slots)
Squirrel Pike is high variance....Enzo claims that your RTP on this slot is 104%.
Obviously you came out on the 'right' side of the variance...
You are smart enough to know that any high variance slot will have lots of dead spins to allow for the rare big hit...
And yet you claim this is the worst game out of any online casinos you know of.....
Would you like it better if your return was 90%?
Im just trying to get back to the original post here and put 2 and 2 together.
Thanks!
(and I am certaintly not the biggest fan of 3Dice slots)
Squirrel Pike is high variance....Enzo claims that your RTP on this slot is 104%.
Obviously you came out on the 'right' side of the variance...
You are smart enough to know that any high variance slot will have lots of dead spins to allow for the rare big hit...
And yet you claim this is the worst game out of any online casinos you know of.....
Would you like it better if your return was 90%?
Im just trying to get back to the original post here and put 2 and 2 together.
Thanks!
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Don't forget to hire a clown for your party Skiny.....
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The problem as I see it is, Skiny had been getting better than average play and still felt the need to slam 3Dice and Enzo.
guess what?
You can wish upon a falling star, I reckon.
I have been far more respectful than a lot of people around here in my posts. On top of that I have said nothing about him personally. I have spoken negatively about his casino on several occasions and if he can't handle that, he's in the wrong line of work.
I have never asked him for anything but a fair game. If I was looking for a bonus from him I would have come here giving false praise. That's how some people get them. If he wants to come here and discredit my statements he's more than welcome to do so but to come here and make a public announcement about banning me from the casino was unprofessional at best and in my opinion extremely childish. Any other casino that I know of accredited or rogued would have simply banned me and carried on with their day knowing I could no longer play there. You claim he's a normal human being, I say he's not. He has an ego like a Mack truck and a half dozen players pumping it up on a daily basis. He couldn't handle just banning me from his casino, he had to come here and make it public and make the thread personal. This was done for the benefit of his groupies and the nominations for that post prove it worked.
You have no idea what kind of play I've been getting unless you've been sitting beside me watching me spin. The last group of stats Enzo posted, half the people I spoke to said they can't even be possible and even then I didn't come back here and call him a liar, I came back here and gave my opinion on one of his slot games. And again, if he can't handle players saying they don't like one of his slot games without retaliating on a personal level he is truly in the wrong line of work.
You don't have to make wishes. If you don't like my posts you can just not read them.
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Since everyone else is weighing in...
IMO Enzo should have dealt with the account closure privately - I feel this is the most professional way to go about these things. Personally, I would be upset if I were told to take a long walk off a short pier in public.
On the other hand, there has been a personal ''issue" between Enzo and Skiny which has recently spilled into the forums so that does kinda change things a little. What I mean is that if a player is going to make accusations or claims here against or about a casino, that casino has the right to clarify the issues and defend itself if necessary. It seems that Enzo has ignored most of what Skiny posted, which was a good move IMO, but I see this situation as the 'straw that broke the camels' back'.
It is completely unreasonable to say a casinos' game is the worst ever or imply that it cheats somehow when you are ahead of the game - you know full well it is a high variance game, not only because it states as much in the lobby, but because you have played it many times...and been around the traps long enough as well.
I guess Enzo thought "well if I cant keep a player who is ahead of the game happy then I will never make them happy" - and hence closed your account. Im also guessing he figures as least you cant keep complaining about them all the time if you cant play there....and I think it was his right.....he just should have handled it better.
IMO Enzo should have dealt with the account closure privately - I feel this is the most professional way to go about these things. Personally, I would be upset if I were told to take a long walk off a short pier in public.
On the other hand, there has been a personal ''issue" between Enzo and Skiny which has recently spilled into the forums so that does kinda change things a little. What I mean is that if a player is going to make accusations or claims here against or about a casino, that casino has the right to clarify the issues and defend itself if necessary. It seems that Enzo has ignored most of what Skiny posted, which was a good move IMO, but I see this situation as the 'straw that broke the camels' back'.
It is completely unreasonable to say a casinos' game is the worst ever or imply that it cheats somehow when you are ahead of the game - you know full well it is a high variance game, not only because it states as much in the lobby, but because you have played it many times...and been around the traps long enough as well.
I guess Enzo thought "well if I cant keep a player who is ahead of the game happy then I will never make them happy" - and hence closed your account. Im also guessing he figures as least you cant keep complaining about them all the time if you cant play there....and I think it was his right.....he just should have handled it better.
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You can wish upon a falling star, I reckon.[/quote]
If this beef is with skiny and enzo let them hash it out....I do not think anyone needs to be throwing jabs like we are all 4th graders on a playground....geesh....
If this beef is with skiny and enzo let them hash it out....I do not think anyone needs to be throwing jabs like we are all 4th graders on a playground....geesh....
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Thats my kinda clown!
Yeah I liked him too...he seemed to fit in with Skinys party them also
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if this is being played out in public, then people have the right takes jabs when they want If you want people to stop weighing in and taking jabs, then stop posting this stuff in chat
If you want people to stop weighing in and taking jabs, then stop posting this stuff in chat
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if this is being played out in public, then people have the right takes jabs when they want
Posting WHAT in chat? If you are making a reference to me I have said NOTHING about Skiny or Enzo in chat????????? So I dont know to what you refer. Please enlighten me....
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I'm talking about you saying that people taking jabs at Skiny and Enzo's posting are acting like 4th graders. If Skiny and Enzo do this out in public, then they have to expect backlash. I'm reading this, you expect me to not say anything? I just didn't appreciate being called a 4th grader (cause i am responding to this nonsense)
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Oh you said chat....it sounded as though you meant 3dice chat as this is a forum...."chat" constitutes real time correspondence.
You are right though....nominating a post simply because player was kicked out of a casino in a public forum....only constitutes first grade behavior. Enzo said his piece and so did Skiny I just dont know why on earth anyone would nominate a post for Skiny being kicked out of 3dice.
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no harm no foul Because it's an FU nomination, which is an abuse of the use of nominating posts.
Had this been one of the RTG or MG rants or whatever, some people wouldn't have made such a big deal out of it.
There is no where that I saw where Skiny was attacking the casino or Enzo, but merely stating that on this particular game it can be more than brutal and more than a little dissapointing.
This is a players expressed experience.
Just as Silc had stated at one time, after playing many hours and hundreds of spins to finally hit the coveted bonus round to only have been dissapointed by the outcome, says the high variance come on is just that, a come on.
And anyone agreeing with the presented stats of Skiny's play, is simply siding with one against another. No one here truly knows anything about what a players return is, other than the player and the casino.
The casino may look at months of play to calculate that high return, but a player will look at their own results of session after session and when there are to many gaps in equal fairness, will and does have the right to question it.
Also what I have noticed is that most of those who dissagree or object with Skiny are constantly making it out to be a rival between Skiny and Enzo, I didn't see that in his post one bit. But maybe that's because I am not a 3Dice frequenter that plays and is on that annoying chat all the time, like it's something more than a casino.
The fact is, it's a casino and any casino is not above it's negatives.
The approach to set it above other casinos, is an ingenious marketing ploy, which obviously works for many people, is to give the impression this casino has a personal feeling. Have a rep that makes friends with the customers, have a chat where the customers feel like they are with friends, like being at a clam bake and you have the recipe for success.
Although Enzo was very courteous in his bannishment, it was still a matter of that should have been done privately. If Enzo wanted to come and share his knowledge and defense on the game, then by all means, he could have participated or chosen not to. The issue was in my opinion, not a big deal.
Again, the most ranted about casinos have been RTG, MG and others and 3Dice should have been proud to be the least ranted about, this is a good record in the eyes of many players.
I personally will be suspicious of a casino I never hear anything negative about. So go ahead and only promote posting positives about this or any one casino and I will start to believe that something is not right here, because a real casino is not going to make 100% of the players happy 100% of the time, it is unrealistic.
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I wonder if any of these "friendships" are talking on the phone to one another? Meaning the staff with customers. Because that's what friends eventually do who meet online and make a friendship correct?
I always wondered about this part of 3dice, of course there has to be a feel of friendship because they want the customers to return. Any business works that way.
I was in chat the other day, and it was quite fun, but I don't frequent often. I wonder if all those people in chat deposit a lot, or mainly just talk on chat? Because if your not depositing money and play free tournys, your "feel" about a casino would be much different than if you were a depositer.
I like and dislike 3dice the same as any other casino, the "friendship" factor doesn't sway me, but again, I rarely go on their chat.
The reason I am using quotes for "friendship" is because I don't believe it is a real friendship between the staff and the customers, it couldn't be, because then people like me who barely chat would be thinking it wasn't fair that so-in-so is talking in real life to Enzo or Anna or whomever.
No one knows what happened between Skiny and Enzo, but I personally think maybe a PM would have been a better approach.
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I frequent chat...almost daily....I even run a movie trivia on mondays....Ive never spoken "live" to any support at 3dice.....but I know that I have always been treated with kindness, respect and dignity by the staff ALWAYS. I would never think that being friendly with them would ever benefit me over someone else.
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I sort of meant my post in a different way.
I 100% agree with you about the staff.
But, their friendship factor is a big part of their casino, I think that's why they have a bunch that comes here and praises them. They feel like they are friends with the staff, which isn't really the case. I'm not saying everyone feels this way, but you know there has to be people who think they are friends with the staff.
I'm not saying they aren't friendly, because they surely are, I'm saying there cannot be a real friendship there, where I think some people think there is. (does that make sense?)
This was another thought of mine. Do all those chatters deposit just as much as non-chatters? Or are they in it just to have a drink and have fun chatting and laughing? I do have to admit, I was laughing pretty hard during my chat the other night. Those people would have a different feel for the casino if they were just chatting and playing free tournys.
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It's taken me a few days to come back to post in this thread, and there are an awful lot of posts, and I did not thank more of them because of my thanks limitations.
I would like to thank everyone for remaining pretty calm, and some of my thanked posts do not 100% reflect my views, but made valid and well presented points.
In the interest of full disclosurer, skiny and I have met in person. We certainly do not see eye to eye on some of his views about the tournaments at 3Dice. We're not (yet) friends, not like he calls me up to chat.
This is a public forum, and skiny posts with humour and insight, and always respectfully.
I feel that Enzo has the right to post to refute claims about the games there.
I think Enzo was 100% right to ask you to take your play elsewhere.
I know Enzo was 100% wrong to do it publicly, and I think it would be a good time to apologize Enzo.
Even casino managers are human (no one would want that silly bot in charge), and emotions get the best of us and we behave inappropriately.
Mature people apologize.
I would like to thank everyone for remaining pretty calm, and some of my thanked posts do not 100% reflect my views, but made valid and well presented points.
In the interest of full disclosurer, skiny and I have met in person. We certainly do not see eye to eye on some of his views about the tournaments at 3Dice. We're not (yet) friends, not like he calls me up to chat.
This is a public forum, and skiny posts with humour and insight, and always respectfully.
I feel that Enzo has the right to post to refute claims about the games there.
I think Enzo was 100% right to ask you to take your play elsewhere.
I know Enzo was 100% wrong to do it publicly, and I think it would be a good time to apologize Enzo.
Even casino managers are human (no one would want that silly bot in charge
), and emotions get the best of us and we behave inappropriately.Mature people apologize.
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I agree with you 100%.....I was just saying I would never think that but I am sure there are some who do.
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Skiny's just trying to get attention, we are the fools that keep giving it to him.- I am bored with this--next.
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Why are you reading the thread then? You seem to come across with quite a bit of malice toward Skiny....or at least the majority of your comments directed at him are a personal attack. We are having a discussion here....so if you dont care to comment or to read it...well dont click the thread.
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That's fine...so move on.
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There are plenty of posts I skip through if I don't want to read them. There is no required reading of anything posted at this forum.
I do think those nominations for Enzo's post are out of line and should be removed. Banning a player in a public forum is not nomination worthy and outrageous behavior.
I do think those nominations for Enzo's post are out of line and should be removed. Banning a player in a public forum is not nomination worthy and outrageous behavior.
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OMG, that totally hurt my brain! But yeah it makes sense. Of course the staff is friendly, they have to be. It's a service industry and if you don't have helpful friendly people working for you then you don't stay in business very long. (unless you're iNetBet snicker - j/k) But seriously though, if you're running a casino you gotta keep the punters coming back right? Everyone there at 3Dice has been friendly to me too - but would Enzo loan me his car? I doubt it. (If I'm wrong Enzo, just tell me where to pick it up.
)I'm on the fence with the skiny vs Enzo debate - I can totally understand the frustration on both sides. I've been in skiny's place where I thought I'd be better off just sending a check to 3Dice every month and not even bothing to waste my time playing there. As a matter of fact, I complained about 3Dice once here too. But I made the decision that if I'm going to continue to play there I gotta suck it up and live with the fact that MOST of my 3Dice sessions will be losers. And if I'm not ok with it, I have to play somewhere else. If I'm hitting myself on the head with a hammer and it continues to hurt, I either gotta learn to like it or it's time to stop doing it.
I can also understand the frustration of Enzo - here's this guy who keeps coming and playing and complaining about it. Then he stops depositing and plays only tournaments and complains about not winning them. Then if he wins a tournament and doesn't get any playtime out of his win he complains about that too. And if he was complaining to the 3Dice staff it would be different - but he's doing it in the most public of public gambling forums.
I personally like skiny and think he's funny as sh*t...but his last few 3Dice posts (JMO) seem less like a 'casino experience' than a personal issue with Enzo. As for Enzo, closing the account in public....yeah as polite and professional as it was, maybe not so cool.
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Amazing
Wow, this is my 1st post in this thread after reading all the pages on this I must say this. No matter what happened in the past between the casino rep and the player, that should NEVER have been posted on this forum by a casino manager. Completely classless and immature and definately handled the wrong way. Everyone has bad days and this guy clearly had one before calling out a player like this.
As for the casino itself, I have never played on it, and nor will I ever after reading that. Who in their right mind would want to have THAT guy in charge of paying out a large sum if you hit big? The guy is clearly a pompous, arrogant, man that takes his anger out at his client base. Wow. How this casino can be recommended on this site after that is beyond me, and I have no connection with the player that ranted about the casino, I just call it how I see it.
If I hear any friends talking about this casino or depositing with them I will certainly tell them to steer clear.
Wow, this is my 1st post in this thread after reading all the pages on this I must say this. No matter what happened in the past between the casino rep and the player, that should NEVER have been posted on this forum by a casino manager. Completely classless and immature and definately handled the wrong way. Everyone has bad days and this guy clearly had one before calling out a player like this.
As for the casino itself, I have never played on it, and nor will I ever after reading that. Who in their right mind would want to have THAT guy in charge of paying out a large sum if you hit big? The guy is clearly a pompous, arrogant, man that takes his anger out at his client base. Wow. How this casino can be recommended on this site after that is beyond me, and I have no connection with the player that ranted about the casino, I just call it how I see it.
If I hear any friends talking about this casino or depositing with them I will certainly tell them to steer clear.
Boy, this has really gotten out of hand..There is definitely a lot of frustration going on between skiny and enzo..But it certainly comes down to not playing there if you think the casino sucks...As I mentioned before I do play at 3Dice and yes it is not easy to hit, but if you get on a roll you can do well. The games are fun and payout is soooooooooo quick...I can make deposit after deposit and do absolutely nothing, no play time..I say (to myself) I am not playing here anymore..But guess what, I deposit again and I may have a winning round..But if I lose and lose and lose and keep depositing, that is my decision and should be able to suck it up..Having said that, i still get frustrated and a bit ticked off when you play at a casino and do not even get any play time..But that happens at most casinos (if not all) to some degree..Certainly not just 3Dice..
Tomorrow someone will probobly post that they hit it big playing squirrel
if this is being played out in public, then people have the right takes jabs when they want
Take all the jabs you want just don't get too rude. That gets you the boot. I take my share of jabs at people too although I try to use a little tact. You and I are just random players who post here. There is no law that says you have to like me or even respect me. Just rules we both have to follow in the forum.
It's taken me a few days to come back to post in this thread, and there are an awful lot of posts, and I did not thank more of them because of my thanks limitations.
I would like to thank everyone for remaining pretty calm, and some of my thanked posts do not 100% reflect my views, but made valid and well presented points.
In the interest of full disclosurer, skiny and I have met in person. We certainly do not see eye to eye on some of his views about the tournaments at 3Dice. We're not (yet) friends, not like he calls me up to chat.
This is a public forum, and skiny posts with humour and insight, and always respectfully.
I feel that Enzo has the right to post to refute claims about the games there.
I think Enzo was 100% right to ask you to take your play elsewhere.
I know Enzo was 100% wrong to do it publicly, and I think it would be a good time to apologize Enzo.
Even casino managers are human (no one would want that silly bot in charge
Mature people apologize.
You never call me either!
It's about bloody time.
I play at a lot of casinos. If I quit using every casino software that didn't pay often I wouldn't be gambling at all. And if I was playing at an MG casino or RTG and some game spun 70 zeros out of 78 I'd be here telling you about that too. Funny thing is, I don't recall that ever happening.
My first post in this thread. - This is probably the worst game out of any online casino I know of. It does pay out about once every 20 times you play it. The rest of the time it hits zero about 75 spins out of 80. Even 4 wilds on the screen at once barely pays 2x my wager.
You do get to match 3 squirrels about every 40 to 80 spins that will pay about 80% of what it cost to hit it if you're lucky.
Which part of that was construed as a personal issue with Enzo?
Never in my entire life have I ever told anyone not to play at this casino. And if Enzo can't let someone type something negative about his slot games without taking that as a personal insult then maybe he should take a step back and realize what exactly he does for a living. In the two years or more I've been reading posts in this forum I have never seen any other casino operator take a negative thread about a casino or casino game personally and resort to insulting the poster and eventually publicly banning him. And I also know what goes on in that casino chat room. I know several people who still chat there. Childish.
Enzo either needs to get a grip or find a new line of work.
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