Squirrel Pike.

[kakata]

I agree Mavin.

Now players who feel like venting may not because of this action. This forum shares good/bad/mad/happy/etc...

So now, if I feel like venting against 3Dice, I have to worry if they will close my account? I don't think I have seen another casino do this? Very strange.

To 3Dice... you will always have "bad" posts about you once in a while, it just happens, are you going to close everyones account after they say something negative about the casino?

I do understand Skiny made many negative posts about your casino, but that's the nature of a gambler, especially in a high variance casino such as yours.

I get pissed off at 3Dice once in a while, I email them. Sometimes I post here. But, I do add possitive about 3Dice as well, see my post a few back.

I am surprised that this action was taken.

Tom ,club world, did it to me...looong time ago.
I must say tho, that when I vent,I am not as polite as Skyny is....I simply become somebody else.

 

[skiny]

I stand by my nomination. Its time.

Now why in God's name would you give a flying rat's ass if Enzo closes my account? I haven't even been in that silly chat room in months. I haven't spoken about you or even to you. Blatant unnecessary brown nosing at it's best.

 

[skiny]

I agree Mavin.

Now players who feel like venting may not because of this action. This forum shares good/bad/mad/happy/etc...

So now, if I feel like venting against 3Dice, I have to worry if they will close my account? I don't think I have seen another casino do this? Very strange.

To 3Dice... you will always have "bad" posts about you once in a while, it just happens, are you going to close everyones account after they say something negative about the casino?

I do understand Skiny made many negative posts about your casino, but that's the nature of a gambler, especially in a high variance casino such as yours.

I get pissed off at 3Dice once in a while, I email them. Sometimes I post here. But, I do add possitive about 3Dice as well, see my post a few back.

I am surprised that this action was taken.

I don't think you have to worry about 3Dice closing your account. Although a lot of people sure do keep quiet about this casino in public. People who speak a little differently in private. I guess when you run a casino with an open chat room where players see the reps and sometimes the owner when they play they don't want to say anything too negative in public. Personally I don't care if the owner or reps of a casino like me. I care that they run a fair game and pay me on time. 3Dice has always paid me on time. Their idea of fair and mine seem to differ slightly though.

The owner of this casino has insulted me many times in public and private and until this thread I have never said anything personal about him. He doesn't like me because I disagree with his statement of him running "the greatest online casino in the world" and I don't mind saying it out loud.

I also don't really care if he closes my account but closing it in a public announcement was childish. Was it some sort of lame attempt to discredit, shame or embarrass me? A public banning from a casino was nominated for best posting? If my name was in that white box under his post I would be the one feeling shame. Not the person being banned. But then Enzo has already made it quite obvious that there is no line between privacy and publicity.

 

[all4greed]

The reply from the 3Dice rep could have been in the form of a PM.

Amazingly tacky...

 

[jackieb7]

!!!!

Now why in God's name would you give a flying rat's ass if Enzo closes my account? I haven't even been in that silly chat room in months. I haven't spoken about you or even to you. Blatant unnecessary brown nosing at it's best.

 

[incrediblestuff]

hmm

however much i like skiny, in terms of humor, and most of the time well thought out posts, that contribute something to a thread, i must say also that almost every single positive thread about 3dice, which i have come to really appreciate, skiny is there, saying: its not that great, wait till this, or that happens or anything else to decraft the majority of positeveness posted in said thread.

now i dont know whatever happened between 3dice and skiny on a personal level, if its here to read, feel free to post me a link, so i might understand better, but it's obvious that skiny is not being neutral in those threads:

he does seem to play there (or did) so thats a bit contradictory imo: commenting negative on a casino you return to time after time, is not exactly supportingof your ecxpressed viewpoint imo.

as far as eno postin this here.. i think we all know that if he'd done that in a pm, it would come out nayway, he obviously didnt feel unfair, and so put it out there in the thread that seemed to rise above his tolerance level (in terms of negative posts accumulated)
if it were my casino, i might have done that way before:
but maybe theres something skiny likes to share on that, whatever made him so dissapointed, to be posting this way for a certain amount of time?

cause if i just take the comments apart, i could only say it is high variance, to me no more or less then i find in other platforms, not in 9 line slots, not in 20 or 25 line slots, and if you dont like that, then obviously one should not continue playing.
so again i think it must be something personal, and most of the times personal grief is caused by an occurance.

the only things i can filter out on that particular note, is skiny saying: just wait till enzo starts talking behind your back, and in this here thread another comment about being confronted in front of his family.

so, i cannot say much more without more info on that.
only that i love itt at 3dice, and rarely have found such a nice active gambling community, inside a casino with all the other positive things let aside, i already mentioned that in my other thread (where skiny also came and said soem unclear stuff to decraft)

i have played all the platforms, all the slots, keno and cardgames: as a gambler one should realize, like i did, that you lose more then 50 procent of the time, regardless of rtp's of 90 procent or more.
that said, either you accept that, or look for different ways to pass time.
cause the 50 procent is really taking it over the top, we all know its way more.
and i like to have playtime, but this is absolutely possible at 3dice, seeing how many free tourneys there are, and the comps you get.
so even if you dont like to bet low, and rush through your deposits, there are possibilities to have a decent playtime, without winning, and if you win, well thats obvious of course..this is what i desire most: i rather rush trough a deposit, or have a nice decent win fast personally, then waste 4 hours betting low, hovering around the same balance, like i do in rtg, and topgame slots, and ending up zero.

the conclusion as always being, if you dont like it: leave it.


but thats only the high variance, and again, obviously this is something personal imo.

skiny ? care to elaborate?

 

[kakata]

hmm

however much i like skiny, in terms of humor, and most of the time well thought out posts, that contribute something to a thread, i must say also that almost every single positive thread about 3dice, which i have come to really appreciate, skiny is there, saying: its not that great, wait till this, or that happens or anything else to decraft the majority of positeveness posted in said thread.

now i dont know whatever happened between 3dice and skiny on a personal level, if its here to read, feel free to post me a link, so i might understand better, but it's obvious that skiny is not being neutral in those threads:

he does seem to play there (or did) so thats a bit contradictory imo: commenting negative on a casino you return to time after time, is not exactly supportingof your ecxpressed viewpoint imo.

as far as eno postin this here.. i think we all know that if he'd done that in a pm, it would come out nayway, he obviously didnt feel unfair, and so put it out there in the thread that seemed to rise above his tolerance level (in terms of negative posts accumulated)
if it were my casino, i might have done that way before:
but maybe theres something skiny likes to share on that, whatever made him so dissapointed, to be posting this way for a certain amount of time?

cause if i just take the comments apart, i could only say it is high variance, to me no more or less then i find in other platforms, not in 9 line slots, not in 20 or 25 line slots, and if you dont like that, then obviously one should not continue playing.
so again i think it must be something personal, and most of the times personal grief is caused by an occurance.

the only things i can filter out on that particular note, is skiny saying: just wait till enzo starts talking behind your back, and in this here thread another comment about being confronted in front of his family.

so, i cannot say much more without more info on that.
only that i love itt at 3dice, and rarely have found such a nice active gambling community, inside a casino with all the other positive things let aside, i already mentioned that in my other thread (where skiny also came and said soem unclear stuff to decraft)

i have played all the platforms, all the slots, keno and cardgames: as a gambler one should realize, like i did, that you lose more then 50 procent of the time, regardless of rtp's of 90 procent or more.
that said, either you accept that, or look for different ways to pass time.
cause the 50 procent is really taking it over the top, we all know its way more.
and i like to have playtime, but this is absolutely possible at 3dice, seeing how many free tourneys there are, and the comps you get.
so even if you dont like to bet low, and rush through your deposits, there are possibilities to have a decent playtime, without winning, and if you win, well thats obvious of course..this is what i desire most: i rather rush trough a deposit, or have a nice decent win fast personally, then waste 4 hours betting low, hovering around the same balance, like i do in rtg, and topgame slots, and ending up zero.

the conclusion as always being, if you dont like it: leave it.


but thats only the high variance, and again, obviously this is something personal imo.

skiny ? care to elaborate?[/QUOTE]



...give him a minute or two..he is loading his 347...

 

[skiny]

skiny ? care to elaborate?

If you've been reading my posts since I joined this casino I've had my share of good things and bad things to say about 3Dice.

Putting that aside, If I get banned from a casino and care to tell people about it, that's my choice. A public debate about the RTP or the fairness of a casino in a casino forum is quite normal and anyone who has had enough losing streaks at a particular casino is going to bring a negative opinion to the discussion.

However, a decision to ban a player from a casino by an operator is a private matter between the operator and the player. It most certainly is not an action that is taken in a forum by means of a public announcement. The very fact that Enzo chose to do this publicly rather than privately like any normal casino operator or manager would, brings to my mind many questions as to the reason.

Is he making a public statement to other players who might air toward the negative while discussing his casino? Was he trying to publicly shame me in retaliation? Was he just lashing out childishly? This public announcement of his is by no means any different than him going back to his casino chat room and insulting me in front of people I know and one member of my family. It's unprofessional and this lack of professionalism seems to be a growing trend with this particular operator.

 

[skiny]

...give him a minute or two..he is loading his 347...

Actually I was cooking sausage for dinner.

I'll be back.

 

[kakata]

Actually I was cooking sausage for dinner.

I'll be back.

@incrediblestuff


....if the sausage size is big...it will be a very painfull death for you my friend..

 

[incrediblestuff]

@incrediblestuff


....if the sausage size is big...it will be a very painfull death for you my friend..

lmao

im not the bad guy!

i based my opinion on what ive been able to read so far, and im not quite sure, why one party can do things publicly, and the other one cant?

anyhow, ill quietly slip back into my corner, i dont want no sausage coming in the wrong way....

 

[skiny]

lmao

im not the bad guy!

i based my opinion on what ive been able to read so far, and im not quite sure, why one party can do things publicly, and the other one cant?

anyhow, ill quietly slip back into my corner, i dont want no sausage coming in the wrong way....

Are you suggesting that discussing experiences at a casino such as play time, RTP and opinions about game related topics is the same as making an operator making a public announcement that someone has been banned from a casino? How could banning a player from a casino possibly be anyone's business other than the player's? What could Enzo possibly gain from his public announcement?

 

[nisosbar]

Betphoenix actually called me on the phone and asked if I'd like to change withdrawal methods because they could get the money to me within a day and my chosen method was going to take a week.

Did they really? Wow, that's amazing.

 

[jod5413]

I don't "know" Skiny, other than he is a regular poster here, with good and sometimes bad posts. In other words, a typical member at CM.

I don't "know" Enzo, other than he has always seemed to go that "extra mile" interacting with members here and at 3Dice, in chat, I suppose.

I play very occasionally at 3Dice. Too high variance for me, but if I deposit, I am willing to play by the "truths" of the variances in their slots.

I do think that Enzo has the personality to want to be in the gang, which has on occasion probably put him on the block for flogging by unhappy campers.

I DO KNOW that no one, other than Skiny and Enzo, really know what is going on and what has been going on with each of them interacting.

So, on that note, I would say that no one has the knowledge to stick their noses into this business.

My opinion only, and I like both of them and every other member posting here.

 

[oldtrvlagt]

I don't "know" Skiny, other than he is a regular poster here, with good and sometimes bad posts. In other words, a typical member at CM.

I don't "know" Enzo, other than he has always seemed to go that "extra mile" interacting with members here and at 3Dice, in chat, I suppose.

I play very occasionally at 3Dice. Too high variance for me, but if I deposit, I am willing to play by the "truths" of the variances in their slots.

I do think that Enzo has the personality to want to be in the gang, which has on occasion probably put him on the block for flogging by unhappy campers.

I DO KNOW that no one, other than Skiny and Enzo, really know what is going on and what has been going on with each of them interacting.

So, on that note, I would say that no one has the knowledge to stick their noses into this business.

My opinion only, and I like both of them and every other member posting here.

I agree with everything you've said..I don't play at 3 Dice either...not my cup of tea, however, I think that we all use the forum as a place to vent, rant and rave. I also think the casino representatives should be held to a little bit higher standard. Obviously there is a "personality clash" between these two but I would think it would make more sense for Enzo to be a little more diplomatic. If his buttons are being pushed then ignore the thread. It will go away and the drama will die down. If he really wanted to fix this then a private dialogue is in order. Just my opinion too.....

 

[incrediblestuff]

on your question what he would hope to accomplish: i feel its quite rhetorical.

the same as an operator publicly closing your account?, i didnt feel that his post was anything else then a suggestion to take your business elsewhere, and i also said that i could understand that

you say your just venting, but i feel your not really fair there, you make loaded statements, obviously implying certain things, that would make any neutral reader set questionmarks @ 3dice.
i would like to refer to my first post in this thread, read it carefully, then youll see that what i am saying is ALL 9 line slots, regardless of platform, have the same "issues", they have useless wilds on most spins, they give 80 % of what you invested on freespins if your playing normal, and if your really "lucky" then youll get a profitable return.
and like you yourself said: this is a forum, the man enzo, rep or not, has every right to comment on ? put out there, even more so since most of them are loaded with said implications.
i remember a few weeks back, maybe two months, there was this discussion going, about duality of the rules?
surely this is a player forum, but the reps arent here to be dragged through mud, without them being able to defend themselves?

not that thats really applicable atm imo, nevertheless this is the way things should be, he reacts on a lot of vents/criticism, saying he isnt willing to invest more time in trying to make you happy, and so parting ways would be the way to go..

what is wrong with that?

 

[anniemac]

oldtrvlagt, you took the words right out of my mouth.

I don't play at 3Dice either but I agree with you. Enzo should have just let it go and the whole thing would have gone away. If he wanted to close Skiny's account, then, I think, that it should have been done in private between the 2 of them.

But by the same token, Skiny, you gotta give it a rest. If you don't think you are getting a fair deal at 3Dice, leave it alone. No amount of pissing and moaning is going to change anything. It is what it is. And I mean no offense to anyone. Just saying.

 

[lost2much]

Interesting how the best casino on the net (according to this site) is becoming the least popular place to play. Better turn it around Enzo before the cupboard is bare. $100 deposits that last 10 minutes at minimal bets aren't doing anything for repeat business. Great service, terrible results. Hope you don't ban me for speaking my mind. Thanks!

 

[jod5413]

I agree with everything you've said..I don't play at 3 Dice either...not my cup of tea, however, I think that we all use the forum as a place to vent, rant and rave. I also think the casino representatives should be held to a little bit higher standard. Obviously there is a "personality clash" between these two but I would think it would make more sense for Enzo to be a little more diplomatic. If his buttons are being pushed then ignore the thread. It will go away and the drama will die down. If he really wanted to fix this then a private dialogue is in order. Just my opinion too.....

Once again, I do not know the whole story. What I do know is human nature (since I think I am one?). And people often lose control when their emotions are high. Enzo is human, Skiny is human, they both make mistakes, just like every other human being. And often times, regret it.

I think.

 

[skiny]

on your question what he would hope to accomplish: i feel its quite rhetorical.

the same as an operator publicly closing your account?, i didnt feel that his post was anything else then a suggestion to take your business elsewhere, and i also said that i could understand that

you say your just venting, but i feel your not really fair there, you make loaded statements, obviously implying certain things, that would make any neutral reader set questionmarks @ 3dice.
i would like to refer to my first post in this thread, read it carefully, then youll see that what i am saying is ALL 9 line slots, regardless of platform, have the same "issues", they have useless wilds on most spins, they give 80 % of what you invested on freespins if your playing normal, and if your really "lucky" then youll get a profitable return.
and like you yourself said: this is a forum, the man enzo, rep or not, has every right to comment on ? put out there, even more so since most of them are loaded with said implications.
i remember a few weeks back, maybe two months, there was this discussion going, about duality of the rules?
surely this is a player forum, but the reps arent here to be dragged through mud, without them being able to defend themselves?

not that thats really applicable atm imo, nevertheless this is the way things should be, he reacts on a lot of vents/criticism, saying he isnt willing to invest more time in trying to make you happy, and so parting ways would be the way to go..

what is wrong with that?

What is wrong with that is we have conversations about casinos and specific games on an ongoing basis. A casino operator has to realize that all casinos online and on land are going to be under constant scrutiny. All casinos will suffer insult and praise and no casino operator or owner should have to resort to mudslinging as a defense. I have not insulted him personally yet that is the route he has taken numerous times.

If anyone can give me any indication of how a public banning of a player's account could be remotely relevant to anything in this thread, I'd be happy to hear it. This is his answer to my questioning the fairness of his software and the insane losing streaks. My guess would be that Enzo's ridiculous ego gets pricked every time someone speaks negatively about his so called "greatest casino in the world" and this is his way of showing everyone who's the boss. A public lynching for the entertainment of the little 3Dice lynch mob. The ones who thought a public announcement in a casino forum about a player's account being closed warranted a best posting award. It was unprofessional and childish. It was classic "Enzo."

 

[mattsgame]

3Dice

Skiny.

I don't play there and have not played there for awhile now.(oh just to ad i do not even promote them)

One thing you seem to not understand is 3Dice's high variance, or you do and are just being ignorant.

You rave about there slot games and how you can't win on any slots and the only proof you show is a screen shot with 4 wilds and say it doesn't even pay 2x your bet.. Of course it doesnt when only 2 of the wilds are lined up! That is a very poor example.

All casino's have high variance slots, The problem with 3Dice is that most of them are.

Play mg's Deck the halls, Break da bank again With the same deposit, same bet per line and I garrantee you will lose just as quickly as you are at 3Dice. Unless of course you hit a lucky streak and then the payout is worth it.. Which is again the same at 3Dice.

If you take a look at the screen shots i bet there is a fare share of 3Dice wins compared to other casino's High Variance Slots.

I do agree Enzo could have gone about his post in a private manner, but i can also see his frasteration, with your negativety about 3Dice. And after all you are posting in a community forum so he should have the right to reply albeit I think he may have replied in haste and taken the time again he would have thought more thouroughly and PM'd you.(well i would hope so anyway)

No proof has really been shown, but if enzo is right in saying your RTP is 104%.. I could only Dream of this at another casino.

I was Surprised to see this Here So in march you win $650 from $10. Infact I see you have won a fair amount at times from 3Dice in your own words in other threads.

Were the slot games fair then? And why do you keep depositing there if you feel there slots are unfair?

And only a few months later when things are not going your way YOU bash them.. Is this not a little hypocritical?

Are you constantly winning at RTG or MGS casino's?

I don't know you skiny, but this just seems like sour grapes because you have been on a losing streak, I agree with jod5413 we don't know the full story. I'm making my opinion on posts in this thread and previous ones.

Sorry this was not ment to be a bashing or anything personal but I want to see common sense..

It just seems to me alot of people on these forums are Complaining when not winning. These efforts could be better used to take out all the rubbish unethical casino's.

Common we all know the risks in gambling especially slots..

So why gamble? why are you here? maybe it's time for a new hobby.(this is not directly directed at you skiny)

Cheers matt.

 

[voodookitty]

Hello, everyone!
I had not intended for my very first post to be in this section, so after this... I will head on over to the "Introduce Yourself Section"! oke:

For what it may be worth, I felt compelled to share my opinion.

Most recently, while I come here to the forum looking at screen shots, news, etc... I just seem to keep bumping into one post after another - bashing 3-Dice.
OMG....
It is like the same tape with a couple different songs, getting played over and over again.

Do I know the whole story...?
Probably, not. (and, probably better off like that..)
But, considering myself to be on the 'outside' looking in (now, I am in), I have to say, "wow".
If I hated a casino and the Mgmt. and/or people who run it, along with Zero trust and thinking that the games are rigged - I think I would be DONE!
I have been around the online casino world, for a consistently long time and have probably played at every online casino, with real money, that exists or had existed in the past. I have won A LOT and lost ALOT.
At the moment, I have 3 casinos that I play at, on a regular basis.
My choice to play at those casinos are based on two reasons that are important to me.
1.) Their casino software is not rigged and I trust that I have a random chance or just as good a chance as anyone else, of winning.

2.) Mgmt. and/or staff treats me with respect and I do not feel hassled or ignored when I have questions, comments AND most importantly.. withdrawals are paid, and paid quickly.. because I honestly do not have patience to wait.


You should try and enjoy yourself, not torture yourself.

 

[pmhcfc]

. My guess would be that Enzo's ridiculous ego gets pricked every time someone speaks negatively about his so called "greatest casino in the world" and this is his way of showing everyone who's the boss. A public lynching for the entertainment of the little 3Dice lynch mob. The ones who thought a public announcement in a casino forum about a player's account being closed warranted a best posting award. It was unprofessional and childish. It was classic "Enzo."

I think you've summed up the whole thing here very well in just one sentence. In my opinion, this whole episode is more to do with Enzo's ego than anything else.

Whilst I agree with those who say 'If you don't like it, don't play there' , a form of public flogging isn't the answer. In the twelve years of Casinomeister has any other casino done this to someone? I'm sure as hell sure there have been plenty of members who have slagged off other casinos in that time.

In emotional terms, you could easily come up with the assumption that Enzo is 'High Maintenance'

Skinny, you have made your points and made them very well in my opinion. However, perhaps time for you to 'move on' and enjoy your gaming away from Enzo's place. On this subject you have your supporters and your detractors, I don't see the point of you attempting to continue to defend yourself against the latter, I doubt you'll get them to see sense.

 

[Mavin1]

And let us not forget this section is dedicated to discussion.

This is it...good times, bad times, post your experiences here.
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I certainly don't see where it says post your good experiences only. So why try to quash half of a players experience discussions. That is what makes less sense to me than having crappy runs that we also like to share.

 

[weplant]

WOW..I am reading all this and saying to myself, this started from a comment that a game at 3dice had a low payout!!..Certainly nothing wrong with that comment..I play at 3Dice on occassion...They are high variance (which I am just learning about)..It is true you can go through 100.00 in 10 minutes, but like any casino you play at, you can have a good run and hit some good bonus rounds. I get frustrated when I put in 100.00 and never see a bonus round, etc., but hey that's my problem, I have made the choice (and yes, probobly a bad one) to continue to deposit. I play a several casinos that I go through 100.00 very quickly, mostly because I have decided not to take bonuses anymore....
I thought this forum was about posting our experiences at different casinos, the good, the bad and the ugly...

Can't we all play well together??