Bullshit or not, some casinos think this way. For example, here you have what said Unibet rep in another thread about ewallets not being available for new players:
And we all know that there are plenty of Ap's in Uk.
Another example. Terms form Bestcasino:
Players from Netherlands and UK depositing with VISA or MasterCard are NOT excluded from BestCasino.com Bonus programs. Only deposits with the above methods can be used to receive bonuses.
Again Uk players.
Not to mention how many times I have heard about "neteller ring fraud".
Sure, honest AP's will just use credit cards, but there are many of them who use fake identities, and is much easier to do this with skrill.
This is fraud, nothing to do with players obeying the terms and conditions.
They need a term to outlaw fraud, rather than some vague explanation about liking credit cards and hating all eWallets.
Neteller and Skrill are both regulated in the UK, and in addition Neteller is regulated by the IOM. They have to obey the same strict anti money laundering rules the banks have to. Fake ID can be used to get credit cards. If anything, the habit of banks posting half completed and pre approved applications to names and addresses on out of date mailing lists makes fraud using credit cards REALLY easy. The fraudsters simply return the application, and the bank sends out the card and the PIN in separate envelopes. The problem is that the named person has moved house, and it's the new occupants who find it so easy to get hold of a new card in the name of the previous owner. The bank only finds out when the balance remains unpaid, usually when the card is maxed out, and they chase the debt only to find the person they thought was using the card moved out long ago, and that new occupants had run up huge bills, probably not even paid their rent, and have also moved out without leaving a forwarding address. The bank has to take the hit, but they then just pass the pain onto the merchant as it is classed as a "stolen card". If casinos have not experienced this problem, its probably because the fraudsters haven't figured out how to maximise the returns. They probably prefer to buy tangible goods with the stolen card, which they can then sell on for cash down the pub. To scam a casino is a bit harder, as they will actually need to come up with fake ID documents that match the card they have used, and that means fully stealing the ID of the previous occupant of the property, or finding a way to "chip dump" funds to a legitimate casino account before withdrawal. This is quite an issue with poker.
If Neteller and Skrill are not doing enough to prevent the service from being used by fraudsters in such a widespread manner, then surely it's something the regulators would deal with, and also something users of ewallets need to know about as high levels of fraud means their own funds are at high risk of being stolen.
Neteller also offers a card, much like a debit card, that works in an ATM and can be used in shops like any other debit or credit card. It's not meant to be used for gambling transactions, but given that casinos will often disguise transactions in order to minimise the problem of constant rejection by the card issuer, there may be circumstances where the Neteller card can be registered as a regular credit card, and used to deposit and claim the 100% bonuses.
These "fraud rings" can also use banks, as once they have provided satisfactory ID to obtain the bank accounts, they can be operated online by anyone who knows the login details, and funds can now be transferred instantly. Unlike with Neteller, the banks will NOT so readily retrieve a payment from a casino simply because the casino disputes it. They will have to notify the customer first that a dispute has been lodged, and the process will allow a fraudster to quickly empty that account and then ditch it.
I thought chargebacks from players using credit cards were now a MASSIVE problem within the industry, yet this is one scam a dodgy player CANNOT operate via an eWallet. eWallets are not covered by the Consumer Credit act, which is the usual weapon used by card fraudsters, and which gives them the legal means to dispute a payment and automatically win it's reversal if the merchant fails to respond to the dispute, and many online casinos don't respond because they are operating in grey or black markets, and would have to identify themselves, leaving them open to arrest by the authorities of the "black" markets they operate in.
