Slots Fairness Discussion (Cut from Other Thread)

[Guntis]

It is time to change subject to roulette...)

 

[paul7388]

It is time to change subject to roulette...)

Hate to say it but we just had a roulette is fixed thread that ran for months with the same people posting every day how it was fixed and how everyday they got cheated out of money. Until they got banned from here for being pain on the arses and the thread died

You can always read it here https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/evolution-live-roulette-stay-away-huge-scam.70532

 

[Guntis]

Hate to say it but just before you joined we had a roulette is fixed thread that ran for months with the same people postine every day how it was fixed and how everyday they got cheated out of money. Until they got banned from here for being pain on the arses and the thread died

Roulette is not fixed!Shall i remove the video?

 

[Tourettesguy]

 

[BillyGoldblum]

That fucking hilarious...They have no fucking shame programming...PErfect example of programmers never ever in their life even played a slot

To be fair its the first slot ive come across that its so blatant and bad. You would think when they test a game they would go hmmm that sure is alot of those symbols on the first two reels every time, lets fix it!

 

[interlog]

Is anybody interested to see admin panel of rigged online casino with Novomatic slots?
Video is bit old and not in english but you should get the point.
Video shows how many active players are online,amounts of their deposits,wins,loses,usernames,emails and e.t.c
Also it shows how simple is to adjust any game outcome for any player who is online.
In the end of video you will see how he adjusted Book of Ra to give out one bonus after other.Enjoy

P.S soon video will be removed!

What casino is that? One you wouldn't play at. No contract details, no license etc.

I bet your bottom dollar they are not genuine Novomatic games.

 

[Guntis]

What casino is that? One you wouldn't play at. No contract details, no license etc.

I bet your bottom dollar they are not genuine Novomatic games.

The name of casino you can see in beginning of the video.It is dodgy unlicensed casino with fake Novomatic in there.There is plenty of websites who sell this kind of softwares for casino platforms.
There is also Netent games which differ from original for example in Dead or alive slot you will see SCATTER symbols in bonus round which you won't see in genuine.As much as i know Novomatic is easiest to fake.

 

[interlog]

The name of casino you can see in beginning of the video.It is dodgy unlicensed casino with fake Novomatic in there.There is plenty of websites who sell this kind of softwares for casino platforms.
There is also Netent games which differ from original for example in Dead or alive slot you will see SCATTER symbols in bonus round which you won't see in genuine.As much as i know Novomatic is easiest to fake.

So why post that video? Now, if you showed me a video from a genuine licensed casino that did the same, I am all ears.

 

[Guntis]

This video has been posted with purpose to boost some people's knowledge!

 

[trancemonkey]

By your own words there you are admitting you can influence the result. When you say things like give free spins less.That means free spins are available and your job is to programme in how many times over a set amount of spins this should be awarded.If it was truly random there would be no set amount.You said there are various ways to lower the rtp.pay wins less often.give free spins less often.The amount of symbols on the reels hasn't increased so the permutations possible is the same but by your input telling it to pay less often etc you are influencing and therefore taking away true randomness.The mere fact a slot has a rtp percentage tells you it has been influenced/rigged/fixed/pre determined whatever we decide to call it otherwise the rtp would be unknown.

I think you would struggle to prove how little you know about slots any more than you have with this post. What you've said is nonsense.

And of course we can change the number of symbols on a reel for different RTP settings. Each RTP is completely different maths... we can change anything.

You really need to come to a Miester Meet or if I do a twitch AMA I'll explain as much as I can there but you're understanding of slots maths is totally wrong.

I'm not influencing the result ... I'm influencing the frequency results are randomly picked.

If I put 10 balls in a bag and get you to pick one, 9 are with nothing and one is worth 900. You give me 100 for every ball pick. The payout is 90% Right?

So to get to 88% i could pay you only 880 for the winning ball, or I could still pay 900 but now I'd have 100 balls but only 88 would pay 900 (or whatever it needs to be to get to 88%... I'm in bed and tired!)

The outcome is still random.

 

[trancemonkey]

Is anybody interested to see admin panel of rigged online casino with Novomatic slots?
Video is bit old and not in english but you should get the point.
Video shows how many active players are online,amounts of their deposits,wins,loses,usernames,emails and e.t.c
Also it shows how simple is to adjust any game outcome for any player who is online.
In the end of video you will see how he adjusted Book of Ra to give out one bonus after other.Enjoy

P.S soon video will be removed!

I do know of some places that use some extremely dodgy software (not legitimate) that purport to be novomatic but are not. If you visit illegal venues or play at dodgy sites I can not and will not say that I can be sure they are 100% fair.

As I've repeated I can only talk for the decent honest providers (most of them) like myself who stay well within the limits of legal and fair...

I'm pretty sure novomatic aren't the only ones to have ever been ripped off like this either...

 

[funnymunny]

For those who don't know already, Europe's (and possibly the world's) largest gambling exhibition is in London the week after next. There will be 100's of exhibitors from both land-based and online gaming sectors. You can sit-in on seminars, slot discussions and pitch-it events. Best of all, it's free to attend. (Registration is necessary before you go, but you can do so Outdated URL (Invalid). (Added bonus of course is the 'Meister Meet-Up'! ).


I urge all who have the vaguest passing interest in this industry to attend. (Especially the tin-foil hatters, and those who are interested in pursuing a career in this incredible sector).

Please please PLEASE come along - hopefully then this thread will finally be done. (Although sadly, I doubt it ).

 

[trancemonkey]

For those who don't know already, the largest gambling exhibition is in London next week. There will be 100's of exhibitors from both land-based and online gaming sectors. You can sit-in on seminars, slot discussions and pitch-it events. Best of all, it's free to attend. (Registration is necessary before you go, but you can do so Outdated URL (Invalid). (Added bonus of course is the 'Meister Meet-Up'! )

I urge all who have the vaguest passing interest in this industry to attend (especially the tin-foil hatters), and those who are interested in pursuing a career in this incredible industry. Please please PLEASE come along - hopefully then this thread will finally be done. (Although sadly, I doubt it ).

Here here!

 

[SpinUk]

Is anybody interested to see admin panel of rigged online casino with Novomatic slots?
Video is bit old and not in english but you should get the point.
Video shows how many active players are online,amounts of their deposits,wins,loses,usernames,emails and e.t.c
Also it shows how simple is to adjust any game outcome for any player who is online.
In the end of video you will see how he adjusted Book of Ra to give out one bonus after other.Enjoy

P.S soon video will be removed!

Trancemonkey - is this a genuine feature of all Novomatic holding casinos? If so it goes against all rhetoric about operators not being able to affect the outcome.

 

[Guntis]

SpinUk and Touretteguy -i think you will love to read information on this website

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[Bloatgoat]

In germany, suppliers of slot machines, where caught putting in hooks by using USB sticks. Basicly they licenced out genuine slot machines with pre-programmed RTP. Looks legit. But then for extra money added a USB stick which would limit the machine's payout in favour of the casino and supplier. So the software WAS actually genuine but by adding that USB stick it would payout alot less, and thus with some key combination gave winnings in favor. I am not bullshitting you. If i could find back that video on YT again i'd post it instantly. Problem is, even licenced company's have their tricks to extract more money then possible.

Trancemonkey - is this a genuine feature of all Novomatic holding casinos? If so it goes against all rhetoric about operators not being able to affect the outcome.

No it's obviously not. As stated before in this thread it was shown for demonstration purposes, to get the attention of people who wanted to run a bogus casino. Novomatic is very old. It's easy to get a copy and extend that software on your own. But it woud'nt suprise me if some automated AI is running on the background knowing the breaking point of a player. I had a few nummerous occasions myself on landbased casino, playing with player card. It's very strange some behaviour, that your pushing 1500 into a slot, nothing happens, and just on your last spin it boots you back up to what you started with. I woud'nt say it rigged, but i woud'nt call that random as well.

I'm sure that software does know your avg time spend, money spent, avg bets, breaking point and all that. AI is the perfect cannidate to encounter you on your players behaviour. Was'nt poker stars or some big brand in the past caught cheating with bots into their online poker games with some random and vague bots? Just saying.

I dont mind losing on slots. It's the game we play. But i'd like to lose 'genuine' and not being messed over because of some switch, program or setting that's into my disadvantage. That is what this thread is about.

SpinUk and Touretteguy -i think you will love to read information on this website

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Yeah this makes sense. I've played a long time online to know something was going on. It's somehow always compensating to get the numbers back to 95 ~ 97%. Some casino's base their RTP on bets vs wins and some casino's base their info on deposits vs wins.

2 big worlds if you ask me. We all go into playing to win money. Nobody is going to hit withdrawl when 200 was depositted and 202 is being taken out. Waste of time and transaction actually.

AI will be used in the casino floor. It woud'nt suprise me if this on large scale already being applied. We have VR porn with actress of your dreams being presented onto the body. Here, have a look:

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With all the casino data being generated daily, it woud'nt suprise me if the above link adaptive mathematics being applied on large scale. More profit for the casino floors!

 

[trancemonkey]

Trancemonkey - is this a genuine feature of all Novomatic holding casinos? If so it goes against all rhetoric about operators not being able to affect the outcome.

I would very much doubt it - if it was, they would lose their licence instantly in every decent jurisdiction in the world!

 

[Steviedoo]

maybe this thread should be renamed....slot conspiracies?

 

[Tourettesguy]

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Think this have been arourd for a long time...almost always when you change to a completly new game or change bet behaviour things happens with the payout and randomness of payout... Getting stuck to a slot a long time it will be cold and no change at all...take Bonanza for ex or any other slot you love atm. And when you are short on cash and get stuck on betting only small bets you tend to only lose and lose...but when you have a loaded bank account and start at bigger bets on slots you tend to win and feel a flow. Atlest Ive had that feeling many times...Ive always planned to start playing all slots on a casino, make 100 bet on each and then change slot, just to see what happen when you bet different bets here and there..but I ofcoarse get stuck at one of my favorites.

And sometimes its like the casino cashier and software know how much you have on your bank accoiunt or NETELLR account cause you often win alot on that last deposit you can afford to do...but ofcoarse I know that is not true. But I do beilve the math program adapts to each players behaviour on some ways.. like getting better payout after a certain amount lost or number of deposit on same session or in a week or like that...and ofcoarse lower your payout after a huge win/cashout session, but I somewhat accept that.

 

[trancemonkey]

maybe this thread should be renamed....slot conspiracies?

Or "untrue things about slots"

Think this have been arourd for a long time...almost always when you change to a completly new game or change bet behaviour things happens with the payout and randomness of payout... Getting stuck to a slot a long time it will be cold and no change at all...take Bonanza for ex or any other slot you love atm. And when you are short on cash and get stuck on betting only small bets you tend to only lose and lose...but when you have a loaded bank account and start at bigger bets on slots you tend to win and feel a flow. Atlest Ive had that feeling many times...Ive always planned to start playing all slots on a casino, make 100 bet on each and then change slot, just to see what happen when you bet different bets here and there..but I ofcoarse get stuck at one of my favorites.

And sometimes its like the casino cashier and software know how much you have on your bank accoiunt or NETELLR account cause you often win alot on that last deposit you can afford to do...but ofcoarse I know that is not true. But I do beilve the math program adapts to each players behaviour on some ways.. like getting better payout after a certain amount lost or number of deposit on same session or in a week or like that...and ofcoarse lower your payout after a huge win/cashout session, but I somewhat accept that.

You believe the games adapt?
Some people believe in God... but he's not real either

 

[goatwack]

Or "untrue things about slots"


You believe the games adapt?
Some people believe in God... but he's not real either

To think, I used to be Jehovah's Witness. Oh yeah.

Not so much these days. That's why I'll let that comment slide

 

[paul7388]

Or "untrue things about slots"


You believe the games adapt?
Some people believe in God... but he's not real either

Can you prove that tho lol

 

[Guntis]

As i said in my previous post that slots are not my favorite casino game but i do play them time after time.
My knowledge about programming and coding is close to zero so i do not know how programmers programm their slots.
I'm not against programmers,casino and people who work there.If i play in casino and lose it means it is my own fault as i played and played in wrong place and wrong time!
Sometimes i call casino "a bank" as it works pretty similar to bank.From bank you borrow and pay back with % on top but in casino you win and then lose more than you won....
Yeah that's right don't stay on one bet size for long as adaptive will kill your balance.I reckon the software can determine your way of playing of course give you some winnings
but slowly eat your balance.Normally "maxbet" changes behavior of slot almost instantly.Also if slot pays "big win" it pays without long waiting!I won't say much as on that website obove is lots of info.You can read and make conclusion!

 

[lockinlove]

I stopped reading when you said Reactoonz.

That game is not rigged.... it is just gawd damn awful.

you know whats so strange is you seem to have insane lucky on bonanza but horrible luck on reactoonz. I feel like you do about reactoonz but about bonanza. And vice versa. Honestly some of your vids and screenshots ive seen, I havent experienced some of those ever.

 

[interlog]

you know whats so strange is you seem to have insane lucky on bonanza but horrible luck on reactoonz. I feel like you do about reactoonz but about bonanza. And vice versa. Honestly some of your vids and screenshots ive seen, I havent experienced some of those ever.

I agree. Just yesterday afternoon I was playing at a casino. Played some Yggdrasil for a change and managed to make a £300 profit. Left £100 to play with on Bonanza at £1 a spin and, yet again, the bonus drops in within 50 or so spins for a plus 200x win.

Every time I touch Bonanza I get a bonus within a reasonable amount of time. OK, they are not all 200+ wins but I don't experience what others are experiencing in terms of bonus frequency. That never used to be like that. Right at the start when it was first released I stopped playing Bonanza for a while because of what you are experiencing.

 

[snorky510238]

I have experienced both sides.Played for 2 hours in total yesterday never saw the bonus once,a few weeks ago I triggered it 3 times in 50 spins and all over x100.What I did see yesterday was 117,649 ways in the base game!

 

[Tourettesguy]

I played Dragon Born for the first time in over a year yesterday...love it when I stop breathing when reels slow down for a bigger win...but that slow motion trigger limit should be raised from only 12x bet to atleast 50x.

Sadly at €1 bet I hit free spins for a 200x win...then I raise to €2 bet....and get atleast 10 free spins featurtes within an hour...not kidding! And only one of them pay more than 10x bet(?!?!) in total... And just one slow down of reels during free spins of around 100 free spins in total that hour.. My thoughts was this is not random...

 

[4048]

I played Dragon Born for the first time in over a year yesterday...love it when I stop breathing when reels slow down for a bigger win...but that slow motion trigger limit should be raised from only 12x bet to atleast 50x.

Sadly at €1 bet I hit free spins for a 200x win...then I raise to €2 bet....and get atleast 10 free spins featurtes within an hour...not kidding! And only one of them pay more than 10x bet(?!?!) in total... And just one slow down of reels during free spins of around 100 free spins in total that hour.. My thoughts was this is not random...

Issue with Dragon Born is that if the slow spin was raised to 50x only you would never see it. I've played it quite a lot and the frequency for slow spins even at 12x is just .... no ty.

 

[Bloatgoat]

Guys, there is no such thing as random in slots. I've played a few hundred euro's an hour ago, it's bullshit. My belief is your hooked to a central system deciding for you what you win. Spins are not random. There's this constant numbering thing going to keep you within the 95 +/- % or whatever they advertise the game with. Only a few will win, the rest just belongs into the depths of greedy casino's all over the globe.

And once you have a pretty amount of funds won, it simply hits dead, it's goal & target to deplete you from your bankroll. Playing a different game wont help that either. Have a nice day. Going back to landbased again. Nothing has changed on online playground.

 

[4048]

Guys, there is no such thing as random in slots. I've played a few hundred euro's an hour ago, it's bullshit. My belief is your hooked to a central system deciding for you what you win. Spins are not random. There's this constant numbering thing going to keep you within the 95 +/- % or whatever they advertise the game with. Only a few will win, the rest just belongs into the depths of greedy casino's all over the globe.

And once you have a pretty amount of funds won, it simply hits dead, it's goal & target to deplete you from your bankroll. Playing a different game wont help that either. Have a nice day. Going back to landbased again. Nothing has changed on online playground.

wat

Land based operates at 10ish % lower RTP than online

 

[Bloatgoat]

wat

Land based operates at 10ish % lower RTP than online

So what. Those numbers mean jack shit. You can still have a much greater experience at a lower RTP compared to high RTP.

And you dont know WHEN that RTP is settling in, might be a day, a year, 10 years, nobody outside the industry knows.

You see i could have much more fun at a machine with a lower RTP but some more action, to keep me in between is it going to hit or not. online play is just boring. Staring at a screen with no clue whatsoever and a usual trend of downward spiral. It's bullshit.

I stated before my luck in Landbased is much better then online. People in here wrote as well that some games have a advertised 97% or even higher, but deviation so bad that in practice it's like 50%. If you guys ever organise a meet in Holland, i'll guide & show you.

 

[4048]

So what. Those numbers mean jack shit. You can still have a much greater experience at a lower RTP compared to high RTP.

And you dont know WHEN that RTP is settling in, might be a day, a year, 10 years, nobody outside the industry knows.

You see i could have much more fun at a machine with a lower RTP but some more action, to keep me in between is it going to hit or not. online play is just boring. Staring at a screen with no clue whatsoever and a usual trend of downward spiral. It's bullshit.

I stated before my luck in Landbased is much better then online. People in here wrote as well that some games have a advertised 97% or even higher, but deviation so bad that in practice it's like 50%. If you guys ever organise a meet in Holland, i'll guide & show you.

Not trying to discredit land based, I've had a good win and it's often more fun than online.

 

[snorky510238]

1 thing I notice is the same old trend on most games.It has become boring you sit there most of the time and without much variation (no matter what the game) and your spin is either dead,you get 50p less than you staked or 50p more than you staked.The only thing thats exciting is the feature and with the amount of bonuses that pay next to nothing your lucky to get a couple of adrenaline rushes in 3 hours.

 

[Bloatgoat]

1 thing I notice is the same old trend on most games.It has become boring you sit there most of the time and without much variation (no matter what the game) and your spin is either dead,you get 50p less than you staked or 50p more than you staked.The only thing thats exciting is the feature and with the amount of bonuses that pay next to nothing your lucky to get a couple of adrenaline rushes in 3 hours.

Thank you. This exactly. It's becoming boring. They could throw in some more variance, it does'nt have to pay millions either but you can have a much better 'experience' rather then 8 out of 10 losing streaks.

They can do this. It's at the gameprovider hands to make these game some little more creative rather then going down a road you've seen and played before. The only thing noticable is that you can defenitly experience some script trying to get you back to the advertised RTP. It's bullshit.

 

[slotmaster]

wat

Land based operates at 10ish % lower RTP than online

Correct.

 

[trancemonkey]

Guys, there is no such thing as random in slots. I've played a few hundred euro's an hour ago, it's bullshit. My belief is your hooked to a central system deciding for you what you win. Spins are not random. There's this constant numbering thing going to keep you within the 95 +/- % or whatever they advertise the game with. Only a few will win, the rest just belongs into the depths of greedy casino's all over the globe.

And once you have a pretty amount of funds won, it simply hits dead, it's goal & target to deplete you from your bankroll. Playing a different game wont help that either. Have a nice day. Going back to landbased again. Nothing has changed on online playground.

Oh God - here you go again! lol

And again - you're right because all us game providers, who are competitors, work together just to piss you off and somehow get stuff past the regulators that they think are random but are just not...

You're funny... don't change

 

[Bloatgoat]

Oh God - here you go again! lol

And again - you're right because all us game providers, who are competitors, work together just to piss you off and somehow get stuff past the regulators that they think are random but are just not...

You're funny... don't change

It's my opionion. I am not saying they are a conspiracy against players. But if they make slots and hook this up to some system, make sure the slot is entertaining, and not offering a ton of dead spins and too obvious behaviour when your about to run out of your bankroll. I've played almost 2 years online, nothing has changed.

You think it's a joke but i'm sure there are alot of people who agree with me. It's bullshit. Please come with me for a day to one of my favourite landbased casino's. I'll buy you a meal + beer and i'll show you how different both worlds are.

 

[Tourettesguy]

There are how many millions new players in the world becoming 18 ready to play online each year, 10 millions? These people dont know anything about payout and more discussed in this thread... and they are probably preprogrammed that eveything is 100% fair too... Sure the game providers and casinos want to exploit these humans to the max...when they become like me and Bloatgoat 1 billion new players have signed up for playing online slots and rigged poker. So game providers and programmers and casinos dont need to stop rigg the software.

 

[trancemonkey]

It's my opionion. I am not saying they are a conspiracy against players. But if they make slots and hook this up to some system, make sure the slot is entertaining, and not offering a ton of dead spins and too obvious behaviour when your about to run out of your bankroll. I've played almost 2 years online, nothing has changed.

You think it's a joke but i'm sure there are alot of people who agree with me. It's bullshit. Please come with me for a day to one of my favourite landbased casino's. I'll buy you a meal + beer and i'll show you how different both worlds are.

And I'll explain why a) they are not and b) give you any other info you want that I can legally share

You still wont change your mind

 

[trancemonkey]

So what. Those numbers mean jack shit. You can still have a much greater experience at a lower RTP compared to high RTP.

And you dont know WHEN that RTP is settling in, might be a day, a year, 10 years, nobody outside the industry knows.

You see i could have much more fun at a machine with a lower RTP but some more action, to keep me in between is it going to hit or not. online play is just boring. Staring at a screen with no clue whatsoever and a usual trend of downward spiral. It's bullshit.

I stated before my luck in Landbased is much better then online. People in here wrote as well that some games have a advertised 97% or even higher, but deviation so bad that in practice it's like 50%. If you guys ever organise a meet in Holland, i'll guide & show you.

You're talking about game design not RTP. At low RTPs we try and make the maths more entertainment and at high RTPs we tend to make it a bit juicer. That's not a hard and fast rule...

 

[trancemonkey]

Thank you. This exactly. It's becoming boring. They could throw in some more variance, it does'nt have to pay millions either but you can have a much better 'experience' rather then 8 out of 10 losing streaks.

They can do this. It's at the gameprovider hands to make these game some little more creative rather then going down a road you've seen and played before. The only thing noticable is that you can defenitly experience some script trying to get you back to the advertised RTP. It's bullshit.

It's not script... it's purely maths that naturally does it... and occasionally when the maths goes in your favour (randomly) you hit a hot streak.

 

[Jono777]

Had to laugh at the "Slots know how much is in your e-wallet / bank etc"

If only that were true, I'd get 5 scatters every spin by way of a sympathy vote

 

[funnymunny]

Guys, there is no such thing as random in slots. I've played a few hundred euro's an hour ago, it's bullshit. My belief is your hooked to a central system deciding for you what you win. Spins are not random. There's this constant numbering thing going to keep you within the 95 +/- % or whatever they advertise the game with. Only a few will win, the rest just belongs into the depths of greedy casino's all over the globe.

And once you have a pretty amount of funds won, it simply hits dead, it's goal & target to deplete you from your bankroll. Playing a different game wont help that either. Have a nice day. Going back to landbased again. Nothing has changed on online playground.

Even if you paid only a few pennies per spin & stuck to the same game throughout, I'm afraid your sample size won't be big enough to prove / disprove anything. Never let a misguided and unfounded belief get in the way of facts though

 

[goatwack]

Why do think casinos want to know players' 'Source of Wealth' eh? It's so they can feed the data into the slots, obviously! d'oh!

 

[funnymunny]

Why do think casinos want to know players' 'Source of Wealth' eh? It's so they can feed the data into the slots, obviously! d'oh!

Yep - clearly nothing to do with the legal requirements surrounding AML legislation

(Pretty sure you weren't being serious, but without a sarcasm font, it can be difficult to tell! Google 'AML Legislation + X' (where 'X' equals the jurisdiction where your preferred casino(s) are licensed... There's your answer to all your source of funds questions right there)).

 

[Guntis]

I played Dragon Born for the first time in over a year yesterday...love it when I stop breathing when reels slow down for a bigger win...but that slow motion trigger limit should be raised from only 12x bet to atleast 50x.

Sadly at €1 bet I hit free spins for a 200x win...then I raise to €2 bet....and get atleast 10 free spins featurtes within an hour...not kidding! And only one of them pay more than 10x bet(?!?!) in total... And just one slow down of reels during free spins of around 100 free spins in total that hour.. My thoughts was this is not random...

It does not sound random at all...only seems like the software wanted you to keep pressing that START button in hope for better...

 

[goatwack]

Yep - clearly nothing to do with the legal requirements surrounding AML legislation

(Pretty sure you weren't being serious, but without a sarcasm font, it can be difficult to tell! Google 'AML Legislation + X' (where 'X' equals the jurisdiction where your preferred casino(s) are licensed... There's your answer to all your source of funds questions right there)).

For future reference, approx. 93% of my posts are laced with sarcasm, because,as everyone knows, it is the highest form of wit

 

[dionysus]

For future reference, approx. 93% of my posts are laced with sarcasm, because,as everyone knows, it is the highest form of wit

you misspelled twit

 

[trancemonkey]

It does not sound random at all...only seems like the software wanted you to keep pressing that START button in hope for better...

#define SARCASM_MODE_ON

You must be right, because we often spend late nights in the office trying to think of ways to piss you off and take all your money just because that, and not having a good experience, is likely to make you keep coming back. Thank God we got it right. Those pizzas, hookers and cocaine were well worth the time money and effort to keep us working late in to the night!

#define SARCASM_MODE_OFF

 

[Bloatgoat]

It's not script... it's purely maths that naturally does it... and occasionally when the maths goes in your favour (randomly) you hit a hot streak.

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Here,

Now take that into account and look at the weapons any casino has on their players. Yes, weapons. Because they are able to profile any player, their avg bet, their braking point, basicly anything that they could gather is in their hands. Put adaptive play or AI against it, and you have the perfect modelling system against your player. This to keep 'm coming back, and guarantee the casino of a montly income on any of their player.

This is why the playerscard is introduced. Gather data. Not for stupid comps and all. The difference is that with online play any player could be linked to one profile. Question: can a game provider link a player coming from online casino Y ? Can a game provider prevent a player from winning time after time? Can a gameprovider cap a certain player? Do they have some sort of security build into their game offers that prevent players from exploiting games?

You know what is funny ... If you slam stop 10 times in a row, note how on avg 8 are dead spins. If you bet big (15 ~ 45 a spin), did you notice the lag in between clicking and when the rheels stop? Or slam stop and notice the lag in between? A few months ago, back when i was on a 11.5k balance, i've tried various slots looking if i was able to break it again. ANY SPIN i did came with considerable lag. No, it's not my computer or internet.

It's like some security feature kicked in preventing me from going any higher then i was at that point. ANY SLOT was considered dead from that point. This is the thing. If it was genuine, and i really am trying to believe you, then it would give me a fair chance and not have features kick in that slowed me down and slowly eat up my bankroll.

This is not genuine or maths Trancemonkey. This is some feature for the casino that prevents players like me. If they offer games with up to 500 a spin in theory, why in the world would the game provider cap me in whatever way ? We could never see into what is actually going on and what the game provider is doing with it's games. Yes licence blabla and regulated etc. But that still does'nt tell ME in particular what it is that i am encountering.

Maybe i should just move on from stupid slots. I've seen the bottom and top of these things. The only luck you have is being somewhere at the right moment, that's where it ends basicly.