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Should it be called a win if your win is less then your bet amount

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by AussieB, May 14, 2016.

    May 14, 2016
  1. AussieB

    AussieB Dormant account

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    This has been discussed in Australia recently about pokie machines calling it a win when your win is less then your bet amount for example your betting a dollar and your prize won on that spin is 80 cents plays some fancy music and calls it a win win which really its not as technically you lost 20cents.

    Do you think slots should call it a win if your win amount is less then your bet amount?
     
  2. May 14, 2016
  3. Tirilej

    Tirilej Still a Lady CAG MM

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    It's a win for me as long as it's more than nothing. You do get something back.

    I guess they could change it to say Small win though ;)
     
  4. May 14, 2016
  5. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Don't confuse 'profit' with 'win'.:thumbsup:
     
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  6. May 14, 2016
  7. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    So my team Newcastle United score one goal against Tottenham's six goals tomorrow and I can call it a win :D
     
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  8. May 14, 2016
  9. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    That would be a win as far as Newcastle go...
     
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  10. May 14, 2016
  11. lnspin

    lnspin Senior Member webmeister

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    All symbols and combos that pay less then original bet should be banned from slots
     
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  12. May 14, 2016
  13. lotusch

    lotusch Noob Webby webby PABaccred mm2

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    Ouch.. :clap::clap::nod:
     
  14. May 14, 2016
  15. incrediblestuff

    incrediblestuff SearchingForTheHolyGrail! CAG webmeister

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    A return of 1xbet or less is not a win in my eyes either: 1x = break even and anything less not a complete loss. Not much mixing up there..

    What i have always liked is how the Crypto slots have it: you see your total bet, then the spin result, and then net win or loss.
    Seems they are making a comeback under the NYX label, as they've been popping up a lot, on various sites recently.. :thumbsup:

    Here's an example of this display:
    Should it be called a win if your win is less then your bet amount: mariasuperman200x.jpg,May 14, 2016
    If it were up to me i'd have all slots from all providers forcibly adapt the same manner of display :)
     
  16. May 14, 2016
  17. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    :axeman:
     
  18. May 14, 2016
  19. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    If that happened then slots would become far less dynamic and more formulaic. Micro wins allow much more variety of slot games. Their would be far less multi line wins and walking wilds as an example would not work.
     
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  20. May 14, 2016
  21. goatwack

    goatwack enthused hangman CAG

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    This would never happen. It's just psychological in regards to winning back small amounts. The fact that 'win' comes up on screen is supposed to empower the player and stimulate a feeling of progression.

    They'd never change it to 'amount returned' as it sounds rubbish, even if technically true. Games providers want the player to endlessly chase and this is punctuated by lots of 'win' reminders, even if the player is actually losing.

    How clever!
     
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  22. May 15, 2016
  23. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Senior Member CAG PABnononaccred mm4

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    Ha ha. We won 5-1. :lolup:
     
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  24. May 15, 2016
  25. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

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    Well I guess it is a win no matter how small it is, If you spent 100 on a machine and than won 101 can you call that a win? as your only £1 up?

    What pissis me of is theses so call big wins / mega wins, What is classed as a mega win? certainly not 10x your bet lol
     
  26. May 16, 2016
  27. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Absolutely NO! I HATE that!
    How can they call it a "win" when you just fucking LOST money??? :sob:

    Same with "Big Win" and "Mega Win" when it is less than 50x your bet... it's all BOLLOCKS!

    KK
     
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  28. May 16, 2016
  29. fun4all

    fun4all Senior Member

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    Yeah it is clearly not a "win" by dictionary definition. Whoever has decided to look into it in Australia has a point. The fact the machines flash it up so often in your face when it is a lie is pretty poor.

    Yeah this is just terrible and one of my pet hates. On net ent now 30x is a MEGA WIN. I mean frankly that is embarrassing.
     
  30. May 16, 2016
  31. petro

    petro Dormant account, per user request PABnoaccred2 PABaccred

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    It seems OP is trying to define the word "win" when it is in reference to gambling.
    My personal definition of a gambling win is when you withdraw more than you deposited.
    But, that's just the definition I use, someone else's might be different.

    An old friend's mother used to say that I didn't win because I would have spent more than $100 (or whatever) to win $50.
    I used to tell her that the $50 *is profit* but she never used to believe me anyway.

    There are some "legally enforced" definitions of words. For example, you would quickly find yourself in prison if you mixed up the definition of food with poison.
     
  32. May 16, 2016
  33. ihatedealers

    ihatedealers Dormant account

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    Once you press the spin button you lost your money and anything won from that spin is a win.
    So for me it's correct that even if it's below my bet amount it's still a win!
     
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  34. May 16, 2016
  35. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

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    A win is 100x or more. Anything less is mud. Unless you misclick $100 spin and win even 10x.

    Then you are a WINNER.

    Anything under 1x is a winnar. Not a real winner. But a winnar
     
  36. May 16, 2016
  37. Mark_32Red

    Mark_32Red Affiliate Manager for Accredited Casinos

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    It amuses me when people buy a scratch card for £1, and then say they 'won £1'. No you didn't, you got a refund!

    'Winnings' is probably a better term? I agree that it shouldn't be confused with 'profit' though, a 'win' is also a 'payout'.
     
  38. May 16, 2016
  39. lockinlove

    lockinlove Staring into the sun PABaccred

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    it frustrates me when I see a person buy a scratch card in general.

    If you dont want your money, Ill take it. Or at least throw it in the wind and watch it float around for a bit first. Least you get something out of it
     

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