Roshstein outed himself as fake?

[paul7388]

Okay 10 minutes of my life wasted. But i watched certain bits of that clip several times and nothing at all conclusive.

Played Gonzo had certain balance.

Went to merlin hovered the mouse several times over real and practice. He was not intending to open the slot. But clicked by mistake and slot opened. But as he was doing the hovering he could have either hit Real or practice. In fact ifyou look close enough it actually looks like Real get's clicked just before mouse moves back down to practice and game loads.

Then game opens and he realizes something does not look right. It looks on screen like the real play would look. So he exits. From watching it several times it looks like the slot opened in Real play like it should if you hit Real. So i would guess it did click on Real just before it reached practice again.

Next game he opens in Real is still same balance. To me it seems like he clicked the real play not practice.

But that will not fit in with what people want to have happened so feel free like you will to say i am talking crap and make stupid jokes

But i can not see all this conclusive evidence from a mouse hovering over two buttons to prove someone is a fake.

 

[asfish]

He calls himself, ”A Casino-philosopher with an incredible technique” don't really see how anyone can take him seriously

Pressing a button on a slot takes so much skill and thought as we all know

Very theatrical and annoying to watch.

 

[trancemonkey]

Can be a slippery slope with that tho.
Where does one draw the line for irresponsible?
For me, betting €5 per spin, like alot (most?) of the streamers do on a regular basis would qualify as irresponsible.
Even the streamers doing €2 per spin sometimes lose thousands in a sitting, and just keep on going with deposits.

Its pretty hard to find a middleground that is both entertaining to watch, and also promotes responsible gambling.
Or if we go further, isnt promoting gambling, no matter the stake, irresponsible?

Personal responsibility is what it comes down to for me.
Nobody is forcing anyone to watch these streamers, and you dont happen to find yourself watching by accident either.
I would love to have the bankroll so i could do €5 spins all day long, but i know i cant.
And if i did do it, despite not really affording it, it would be my own fault, not some streamer.

To be fair, you are probably right...but if any regulators get involved, then a line will indeed be drawn. I have no idea how regulation would work to be fair, but I fear it may happen at some point .. or try to happen. If I were making the rules, I would set it at £5 or €5.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Can be a slippery slope with that tho.
Where does one draw the line for irresponsible?
For me, betting €5 per spin, like alot (most?) of the streamers do on a regular basis would qualify as irresponsible.
Even the streamers doing €2 per spin sometimes lose thousands in a sitting, and just keep on going with deposits.

Its pretty hard to find a middleground that is both entertaining to watch, and also promotes responsible gambling.
Or if we go further, isnt promoting gambling, no matter the stake, irresponsible?

Personal responsibility is what it comes down to for me.
Nobody is forcing anyone to watch these streamers, and you dont happen to find yourself watching by accident either.
I would love to have the bankroll so i could do €5 spins all day long, but i know i cant.
And if i did do it, despite not really affording it, it would be my own fault, not some streamer.

Your right, the buck stops with the individual when it comes to budget and spending what you can afford.

As far as this instance goes, I am thinking a couple of things:

A special account has been set up by a casino for a streamer?

That special account has been kept secret?

That streamer has said that all deposits and cash are real in order to promote the brand (be it his own or the casinos, i think its reasonable to assume both)?

Now that the truth has come out it is being brushed off as nothing special.

After all 'denial is the mother of all arguments'.

I've said my bit and that's it for me. Not outstaying my welcome or trying to validate what is clearly a wrongdoing to me.

 

[trancemonkey]

Okay 10 minutes of my life wasted. But i watched certain bits of that clip several times and nothing at all conclusive.

Played Gonzo had certain balance.

Went to merlin hovered the mouse several times over real and practice. He was not intending to open the slot. But clicked by mistake and slot opened. But as he was doing the hovering he could have either hit Real or practice. In fact ifyou look close enough it actually looks like Real get's clicked just before mouse moves back down to practice and game loads.

Then game opens and he realizes something does not look right. It looks on screen like the real play would look. So he exits. From watching it several times it looks like the slot opened in Real play like it should if you hit Real. So i would guess it did click on Real just before it reached practice again.

Next game he opens in Real is still same balance. To me it seems like he clicked the real play not practice.

But that will not fit in with what people want to have happened so feel free like you will to say i am talking crap and make stupid jokes

But i can not see all this conclusive evidence from a mouse hovering over two buttons to prove someone is a fake.

Then why the reaction...

You see, it this was me streaming and that happened when I thought I had hit practice, i would probably pause, say "That's odd, that shouldn't happen in practice." Then I would open another game in practice. If it happened again, I would contact customer support as its clearly a bug.

What I would NOT do is appear to panic, not open any more games in demo, then take some time out.

His reaction, and I am not saying it confirms guilt, is suspect to say the least.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

of course roshtein plays with fake money i knew it from when i first watched him 2-3 years ago.
no reactions to big wins, although he has adjusted now and at least has tried to make them look real.

 

[trancemonkey]

Your right, the buck stops with the individual when it comes to budget and spending what you can afford.

As far as this instance goes, I am thinking a couple of things:

A special account has been set up by a casino for a streamer?

That special account has been kept secret?

That streamer has said that all deposits and cash are real in order to promote the brand (be it his own or the casinos, i think its reasonable to assume both)?

Now that the truth has come out it is being brushed off as nothing special.

After all 'denial is the mother of all arguments'.

I've said my bit and that's it for me. Not outstaying my welcome or trying to validate what is clearly a wrongdoing to me.

Fake news.

I am the chosen one.

I am the king of CasinoMeister

I am also buying Iceland... Greenland is a bit out of my budget. Come to think of it, so is Iceland. I'll buy Lidl instead.

 

[paul7388]

Then why the reaction...

You see, it this was me streaming and that happened when I thought I had hit practice, i would probably pause, say "That's odd, that shouldn't happen in practice." Then I would open another game in practice. If it happened again, I would contact customer support as its clearly a bug.

What I would NOT do is appear to panic, not open any more games in demo, then take some time out.

His reaction, and I am not saying it confirms guilt, is suspect to say the least.

People react in different ways i guess. Maybe he could not understand why it had not went to practice if he thought he had clicked practice.

Anyway i neither know and it does not bother me either way if he is real or fake.

But because of all the outcry on here i watched the video which i never do. And maybe he did hit practice and something is totally wrong.

Or he did hit Real and everything worked the way it should.

All i know from looking at bit where he clicked several times you can see he hovered over real and practice several times. And if you look close enough just as it was leaving Real the last time to move back down to practice it looks like the finger on the cursor presses whilst still on real.

But guess a reasonable explanation is not what anyone on here wants to see.

 

[trancemonkey]

People react in different ways i guess. Maybe he could not understand why it had not went to practice if he thought he had clicked practice.

Anyway i neither know and it does not bother me either way if he is real or fake.

But because of all the outcry on here i watched the video which i never do. And maybe he did hit practice and something is totally wrong.

Or he did hit Real and everything worked the way it should.

All i know from looking at bit where he clicked several times you can see he hovered over real and practice several times. And if you look close enough just as it was leaving Real the last time to move back down to practice it looks like the finger on the cursor presses whilst still on real.

But guess a reasonable explanation is not what anyone on here wants to see.

Actually, I (like most I would hope) would be more than happen with a reasonable explanation. If you are right, it explains it.. but in my opinion he is acting like a guilty party. If it was purely an accident, get back on stream and do it again and prove it was an accident. Simple right?

 

[paul7388]

Actually, I (like most I would hope) would be more than happen with a reasonable explanation. If you are right, it explains it.. but in my opinion he is acting like a guilty party. If it was purely an accident, get back on stream and do it again and prove it was an accident. Simple right?

Maybe.

But you should know better than most that some people do not want to see reasonable explanations.

But i will give you credit for being sensible and rational. Go back to video. Watch several times the bit just before the game loads. You will see him hover over both practice and real. You might even see what i am getting at that it actually looks like Real actually gets pressed.

If not can you honestly say conclusively from watching that clip at that point whether Real or Practice gets clicked. If you are being honest you will probably say you can't.

Which then whether or not people like the guy. Think or know he is fake. Whatever there opinions of him that video actually proves nothing.

 

[Kroffe]

Maybe.

But you should know better than most that some people do not want to see reasonable explanations.

But i will give you credit for being sensible and rational. Go back to video. Watch several times the bit just before the game loads. You will see him hover over both practice and real. You might even see what i am getting at that it actually looks like Real actually gets pressed.

If not can you honestly say conclusively from watching that clip at that point whether Real or Practice gets clicked. If you are being honest you will probably say you can't.

Which then whether or not people like the guy. Think or know he is fake. Whatever there opinions of him that video actually proves nothing.

I dont really care wich way either, but if you look at the clip at 0.25 speed on youtube.
What looks like the mouse "clicking" is probably just the cursor being swapped from a pointy thingy to a hand thingy, it swaps in the space between "practice" and "real".
Detective Pooh out.

Edit; Also, Dectective Pooh tried to press real and then move mouse down over practice.
But not possible for me, it starts loading the instant i press. No time to press one button and move mouse over to the other.

 

[SteveBr]

I thought the same thing after watching the video. It does look like he may have clicked real before practice.

That said, as @trancemonkey says, the way he acts afterwards is extremely suspicious. Why not click practice again to check? Why not check the practice mode of other games? Why act like you’ve just been caught out in “something”.

His whole demeanour afterwards suggests he’s thinking “oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck”

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I dont really care wich way either, but if you look at the clip at 0.25 speed on youtube.
What looks like the mouse "clicking" is probably just the cursor being swapped from a pointy thingy to a hand thingy, it swaps in the space between "practice" and "real".
Detective Pooh out.

Yes if you watch for a few seconds before he loads the game in, you can see the cursor automatically changes from a pointer to a hand depending on whether or not it's over something clickable.

Nothing clickable:

Something clickable:

Watching at 0.25x speed is a good call Kroffe, I've just done it myself and the cursor is over PRACTICE as clear as day when the lobby screen disappears and the game starts loading.

 

[paul7388]

I thought the same thing after watching the video. It does look like he may have clicked real before practice.

That said, as @trancemonkey says, the way he acts afterwards is extremely suspicious. Why not click practice again to check? Why not check the practice mode of other games? Why act like you’ve just been caught out in “something”.

His whole demeanour afterwards suggests he’s thinking “oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck”

Who knows . He acts real strange when it happens but that might just be because of way it happened it took him by surprise. Or he might be real dodgy like people think.

I only try to look at reasonable explanations.

People are trying to find all these reasons why something is up and how the casino is faulty or his account is fake etc as impossible to click from real to practice with same balance.

Where as simplest explanation is he hit Real and everything worked the way it should have. Being honest no matter what sort of account he has real or fake it is really the only plausible explanation as like people have said they have tried everything out and can not replicate it when hiting practice. So makes sense that as he hovered over both it was Real he clicked by mistake. After all it is not like he was planning to hit practice as he was not even wanting to open the game in first place.

 

[Slottery]

This is a casino forum and community that advises where to play safely and is the purveyor of justice?! Outing rogue casinos etc etc???

I don't like the way some people are brushing this off to be honest and saying that some of us are looking bad.

I for one, want to know my money is going to decent casinos with good ethics. The main reason being - I dont want to be messed about when it comes to withdrawals or queries or the possible chance of a big win.

If there is no shame in what this guy did or is doing then why act shameful?

If there are no secrets then why the stumbling and stutters?

At the end of the day, I started slotting about 2 years ago and when I first started I watched a streamer and it influenced my play. The majority of the casino community is like me. Not everybody has the knowledge or experience to know any different.

This is irresponsible and deceitful and anybody who argues different has a one track mind in my opinion or a vested interest in 'shrugging this off'.

There have been two threads which have seemed like witch hunts, i doubt either will come to a conclusion or summary that is satisfying to a player like me but we should at least be allowed to check, test the water and debate the issue.

Edit: I am missing a friend, lost his wife, kids, job and moved away, last I heard was living out of his car. He was convinced he could win big, simple as that. Convinced there was a way to play and a system. This kind of promotion fuels this kind of issue.

Apologies for everyone who feel bad, my intention wasn't give anyone to feel that, just questioned is it really serious matter of this many pages in thread with pretty much postings which don't do much but suggest that somebody is playing with fake money and using view bots. If you read this thread as "outsider" (like i can pretty much count myself when it's coming to follow casino streamers, know the concept, no need to explain that but not following them) many can really wonder that WTF is happening, very fanatic posting one after each other with quite unreasonable demands to prove somebody game play and it's real, which should imo be enough here if accrediated casinos rep will tell it, he's not allowed to post public forums anyones private details even person is affiliated with them and if he would post here whole transaction history from games, deposits, withdrawals and what so ever, what could be expected? Would everyone here be happy to see such a pictures? I doubt that these would called "easy to fake" etc... from many here. Rep gave his input this conversation as a rep which in many occasions here is taken as a proof what casino is doing or not, if people here are openly stating that rep is lying to whole community (which i might think is quite strong accusation agains casino rep), then somebody might instead of posting here to demand something unreasonable, contact CM, provide these evidence where ever they are and ask CM if they could consider to see with casino in question if they are lying to CM community or not.

My posts in this thread as "bit" highliting that as probably can be seen and most were meant to wonder that how seriously people really are taking that and then started also a bit wonder that is this thread in whole and many posts after posts suggesting that some people might have taking playing at casinos and watching streams bit too serious when it should be meant to be entertainment and fun. This passion and tone in several repeated posts here would (and should when following what regulators are expecting casinos to monitor and follow) be taken as RG sign when player interaction with casino taken to this level and relationship to gaming to player is too serious and something more than just fun and entertainment. When you disagree something with casino, after deciding not to believe their answer, you usually consider to claim complaint against them instead of multiple accusing messages just repeating same again, again and again.

If there would be some "real" issue what would make players money not to be safe, withdrawals not paid, serious flaws in casinos systems, that would be totally different scenario and casino most probably would sort that to work if something is broken. Here we have (don't know how many pages already) forever going rant about one persons use of mouse which also got some very few opinions here that it can be that something actually didn't happen but incorrect button clicked.

I would strongly suggest to people who are feeling that they are cheated for long time now (if i understood right, it's suggested that this was not only time when person used play money, specially made test account or what ever way is not playing how he and casino are stating), stop accusing to casino rep here which might be not fully in line with forum rules but reach Bryan with your whole story and evidences put to together and ask if he sees that there is reason for him to interact with casino for this matter. If he decides to do so, let him do, if not, take that as an answer too as many of us do trust to people you know and what they say and it might be little bit too extended request start to demand proofs of people personal transactions which would need to be verified by banks, skrill or what ever are used for them and other hand from regulators and game providers that these all game transactions have been real or not.

If people are not willing to do that, i would really suggest to leave casino rep alone from this debate as his answer is already posted here and people quite straight are claiming him to be liar in open forum where he is representing his casino and assisting people in CM community. Accredited casinos and their reps in my understanding should have little bit trust and if there is lack in that, little bit respect and issue to be addressed to CM who is after all person who decide which casino is accredited and which is not and given that status in my understanding means that he's trusting people there are operating fair and honest way and if that found out not to be true, they are finding themselves from Gery Zone or Rogue Pit.

I'm really sorry to hear about your friend and as you probably understand nobody haven't say here that he/she would support fake activities in marketing, but bringing person who have passed and add that part to post after posting original post is in not something i would bring to this topic but respected my friend without using him to point out that misleading marketing do cause big harms and sad things in world. There was no need to underline that fact what we all are aware already without such a very sad example of persons destiny.

Edit: This is casino forum, but these topics about "fake or no" streamers are not really something which are following forum rules or etiquette about postings to accredited casinos and to their reps. And these seem to always (or at least most of the, might be that i have missed some because these are bit heavy to read due to posts made under such a huge passion that thinking didn't always come before writing) be some one is fake and something have to be proven just because we feel so or might saw some confusing clip or accidentally given incorrect answer from somewhere which happen to all. These still in my opininon after the point is made in first page, could be continuing in more relevant place where accusing accredited casinos and reps is normal and accepted behavior. Somebody remember this after some years, do we see any similarities?

Bogus Complaint - NickSlots - Rizk Casino.

 

[paul7388]

Yes if you watch for a few seconds before he loads the game in, you can see the cursor automatically changes from a pointer to a hand depending on whether or not it's over something clickable.

Nothing clickable:

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Something clickable:

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Watching at 0.25x speed is a good call Kroffe, I've just done it myself and the cursor is over PRACTICE as clear as day when the lobby screen disappears and the game starts loading.

That is what i am saying.

Go to any page with slots. Click practice yourself . When you are moving the cursor after clicking the cursor still moves about before game actually starts loading. Does not mean what it is over at point of page loading was actually last thing clicked.

For example i just went to 32RED. hovered mouse between Demo and Real. Deliberately clicked as it was over Demo yet i could still move over both again before game started loading.

 

[Balthazar]

Could have been answered already but wasn't this guy already kind of rogue in the streaming community? Like the big streamers called him out in the past and/or just never acknowledged him?

That said, if you're being outraged by any streamer you really need to reconsider life choices because something went wrong.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

That is what i am saying.

Go to any page with slots. Click practice yourself . When you are moving the cursor after clicking the cursor still moves about before game actually starts loading. Does not mean what it is over at point of page loading was actually last thing clicked.

For example i just went to 32RED. hovered mouse between Demo and Real. Deliberately clicked as it was over Demo yet i could still move over both again before game started loading.

I've tried it myself at N1 Casino and you can't move the mouse cursor after clicking on REAL PLAY or PRACTICE.

If the mouse is moving when you click it'll try and 'drag' the button which of course it can't do so you get the little Windows 'No Entry' style icon, and when you let go of the mouse button nothing happens.

When you actually click on REAL PLAY or PRACTICE the casino site responds instantly, no further onscreen movement of the mouse cursor is recorded as the lobby screen disappears instantaneously and the game starts loading.

I've videoed myself trying it a few times over and then slowed the footage down in VLC, and I simply cannot replicate anything like we see in the Roshtein video, the only conclusion I can reach is that he clicked on PRACTICE.

Try it yourself at N1 Casino, you don't even need to sign up, if you successfully click on REAL PLAY you'll be presented with the login screen, if you successfully click on PRACTICE the game will load.

What you won't be able to do is have the mouse cursor clearly over the PRACTICE button (which it definitely is in the Roshtein video), whilst having registered a click on REAL PLAY.

 

[paul7388]

I've tried it myself at N1 Casino and you can't move the mouse cursor after clicking on REAL PLAY or PRACTICE.

If the mouse is moving when you click it'll try and 'drag' the button which of course it can't do so you get the little Windows 'No Entry' style icon, and when you let go of the mouse button nothing happens.

When you actually click on REAL PLAY or PRACTICE the casino site responds instantly, no further onscreen movement of the mouse cursor is recorded as the lobby screen disappears instantaneously and the game starts loading.

I've videoed myself trying it a few times over and then slowed the footage down in VLC, and I simply cannot replicate anything like we see in the Roshtein video, the only conclusion I can reach is that he clicked on PRACTICE.

Try it yourself at N1 Casino, you don't even need to sign up, if you successfully click on REAL PLAY you'll be presented with the login screen, if you successfully click on PRACTICE the game will load.

What you won't be able to do is have the mouse cursor clearly over the PRACTICE button (which it definitely is in the Roshtein video), whilst having registered a click on REAL PLAY.

Unfortunately i cannot even get list of slots to show at that casino.

Like a mug tho i have opened slots pages at 4 places i use. And every single one of them if i am moving the cursor up and down once clicking on play the cursor still shows moving down before the game page starts loading.

 

[imnick1985]

Let me see. What is happening in the world at the moment that will cause most outrage.

Amazon is burning. Protests everywhere about Brazil.

China looking like it will send troops into Hong Kong.

Johnson being a clown as usual and saying send them all back but of course he just gets his words mixed up.

Trump offending everyone as usual and also trying to buy Greenland lol.

Could go on.

But no the real mass hysteria on CM yet again is whether Roshtein plays with real money . Amazing how much people get worked up over a streamer over and over again.

Seems to be a thing lately on CM that someone starts a post and then the wolves circle and attack and make allegations without any actual proof and i am not talking about Roshtein and his is it real, fake , or who really gives a f*ck streams. Then always the members that have to make such a big commotion about nothing really.

Anyway guess it is what it is. Now i will go catch up on the other threads from last few weeks see what bitching has happened in them. Should pass enough time before returning here to catch up on next 10 pages of the usual.

The Amazon pictures & videos showing Sao Paulo in darkness & black drinking water is pretty awful & could affect us all if the Amazon is destroyed, i agree far more important stuff to be debating than Roshtein

 

[colinsunderland]

The Amazon pictures & videos showing Sao Paulo in darkness & black drinking water is pretty awful & could affect us all if the Amazon is destroyed, i agree far more important stuff to be debating than Roshtein

So because something bad is happening somewhere in the world, no one should be able to talk about anything else?
It's a casino forum, people will talk about casino related stuff, no matter what else is going on in the world.

 

[dunover]

The Amazon pictures & videos showing Sao Paulo in darkness & black drinking water is pretty awful & could affect us all if the Amazon is destroyed, i agree far more important stuff to be debating than Roshtein

Am I the only one to see a great way out of this mess, for all parties?

Leave Rosh alone, get N1Casino to sponsor the planting of say 20 tree saplings in the rainforest for each new player he recruits, in lieu of some commission?

He could change the channel name to 'RoshGreen' and we'd all be effervescing with happiness and kood karma....

urgent P.S. edit - NOT fake plastic trees I hasten to add!

 

[imnick1985]

So because something bad is happening somewhere in the world, no one should be able to talk about anything else?
It's a casino forum, people will talk about casino related stuff, no matter what else is going on in the world.

Your right Colin we should be talking about Roshtein, sod the Amazon what was i thinking!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Yes because talking about the Amazon on a casino forum will definitely help put the fires out.

 

[brianmon]

Yes because talking about the Amazon on a casino forum will definitely help put the fires out.

Well, after all, it is what most people do about 'world problems' these days - Sit at home at a computer and talk about them.

 

[dunover]

Yes because talking about the Amazon on a casino forum will definitely help put the fires out.

What about discussing the Amazon Queen slot? Or Amazon's Story or Amazon Wild? Kinda tie the two topics together?

 

[paul7388]

What about discussing the Amazon Queen slot? Or Amazon's Story or Amazon Wild? Kinda tie the two topics together?

Good idea. Now what is there to say about those slots. Well okay they are crap. Discussion over lol next topic please.

 

[snorky510238]

I have refrained from posting until now to give both sides a chance to put their case forward.

All I will say is that I don’t consider that the natural reaction of someone who was trying to to demonstrate what happens in practice mode. If he had nothing to hide.

I can imagine if it was @dunover or @ChopleyIOM making a video and they were attempting the same demonstration (we are assuming here that the account is legitimate so there would be no great haste to hide anything) that there would be a “what happened there” moment followed by “l must of clicked real play, let’s try that AGAIN”.

Not an “oh shit I am supposed to be proving my account is genuine, I daren’t open that up again” moment. Exit stage left at a hundred miles an hour.

 

[Kroffe]

Good idea. Now what is there to say about those slots. Well okay they are crap. Discussion over lol next topic please.

I think its good the amazon rainforest is burning.
Always been a stuck up know-it-all that forest..
"Ohh look at me, ive got 35 670 species of dungbeetles, in each tree."

Nah, let it burn i say, Hundred acre woods have all the trees we need.

I wonder how the fires started in the first place....

 

[IM_SPORTS]

Loads of people questioned whether roshtein was fake way before this video evidence

 

[Jono777]

In other news, I hear Rosh is attending this years National TV awards

Nominated for 'Best Soap Villain'

 

[Glassheart]

In other news, I hear Rosh is attending this years National TV awards

Nominated for 'Best Soap Villain'

You just concentrate on your midlife crisis and leave the funny stuff to Goatwack

 

[lotusch]

Possibly. And yes he does clearly press practice. Someone on here must have an N1 account to try it?

We know from first hand experience that fake accounts are offered, but only N1 knownthe actually truth.

Arguably, however, they should really lose accredited status just for supporting and, arguably, actively encouraging, irresponsible gambling, and maybe CM should take a stand here.

I don't really care if it's fake money or not, what I care about mostly is the hopelessly irresponsible gambling he is doing. It is morally reprehensible... and to say "Hey, he is not doing anything illegal" is stupid. N1 is facilitating the advertisement of irresponsible gambling ... end of

That is a great point there!
Let's be clear, I do not give 2 fooks if he plays with his own funds or casino money.
It is the way he profiles himself, the bets he plays which are just an utter joke and would push problem gamblers easy over the edge or get other gamblers into big financial trouble thinking they can achieve the same wins as him.

I would not open a thread myself about this guy as he is a waste of forum space but when a thread pops up I feel the urge to reply and give my 2 cents.

And to be honest, I do not understand that any casino wants to attach their name to a player like this.
This in my opinion has NOTHING to do with responsible gambling in any way.

If people have the money to play like this, so be it but it should not be promoted like this in live streams.
Let them play their insane bets but please refrain from recording or streaming any of this bull crap.

For me this equals selling dope to teenagers and get them hooked on the drug.
I bet many of his viewers are young teenagers looking up to this moron.

And while we are at it, my bankroll is around €200.00 a month and when I win with the money I WD a good chunk of it and keep some of the winnings in my casino account to play some more but 200 is about the max I can afford.
I have a full time job and have to work hard for my money and when the paycheck comes in bills are being paid first.
Mortgage, Electricity, Insurances, Phone&Internet, Groceries, Clothes for my kids etc etc etc.

Then to see someone busting tens of thousands in front of a live audience on €50.00+ bets makes me vomit and yes I despise this dude for that.

Nothing better than a dope seller.

Here at CM we are all for responsible gaming so a dude like this should not get any praise i.m.h.o

And that is the last I have to say about him.

 

[nutnut]

why anyone watches these Youtube streamers is beyond me. I can't find a moment in my life even at my lowest I want to watch someone else play slots.

that's the bigger crime here not whether hes playing with fake money, but fact people watching fund his antics.

 

[OpiumDose]

To me it looks like N1 glitching - 404 error and after that he tried both "Practice" (twice) and "Play now" and on both was asked to log in. Now that should not happen, right? If he was logged out and everything worked as it should then he should be asked to log in only when clicking on "Play now" - practice mode should work (works for me) even when logged out. So from that "Woopsie" video to me it seems like N1 might have actually glitched out and sent him to real money play even when clicking on "Practice" (as seen, first, when he did it while logged in and his balance was his cash balance, and then when he was logged out he was still asked to log in).

 

[Kroffe]

why anyone watches these Youtube streamers is beyond me. I can't find a moment in my life even at my lowest I want to watch someone else play slots.

that's the bigger crime here not whether hes playing with fake money, but fact people watching fund his antics.

But i bet you enjoy watching people do other things, either on tv or streams.
Its almost like different people enjoy watching different things.

I dont watch casino-streamers myself, but i have no trouble seeing why people would like it.

 

[Alqupon]

Well, as CasinoDaddy representative/manager I do feel inclined to respond here after specifically mentioning us.
First of all - the videos in question are simply recordings taken from his original (Public!) VOD, and have absolutely nothing to do with us. I also see you like to include irrelevant accusations that 'we' would 'hate' Roshtein. No, we do not hate Roshtein, it is nothing personal. We simply do not like the way he conducts business and would like to have absolutely nothing to do with it. This indeed includes not working with N1casino.

As stated several times it is very well within the possibilities of a casino to offer demo play. I have dealt with hundreds of affiliate managers in the past few years working for my bosses - and yes - I have also been offered similar accounts, which I have respecfully declined. To state it is literally impossible would be an insult to the knowledge many people here have.

Of course I'm not in any way surprised you, as N1casino, would defend your casino and its functionality in regards to this case. However, the claims that stand are of a significant magnitude, and shouldn't just be waved off as 'yeah it's all real dw about it'.

On the matter that he would've actually clicked real play mode - no he did not. N1casino will respond to your mouseclick within 0.4 seconds, and if you slow down the video 'Practice' is clearly pressed, there is no confusion there.

As a notice; we would like to see a fair, square and transparant gambling community. The videos above, combine this with certain other points of interest;

Very anonymous online, never shows his actual windows/background/even the casino lobby doesn't get shown often, he only launches games on off-screen window, plays only very selective brands, gets 500% bonuses without maxbet, without max cashout on smaller brands. (Where our bonuses get cut if we cash out 20k on the biggest brands) Extremely fake reactions, quite clear for some, and the fact viewers get no insight whatsoever in how he does business is enough for me to question this legitimacy.

It is not out of anger, jealousy or any other personal vendetta we may have that we prefer to have nothing to do with him as a streamer. Besides the fact we feel sitting semi-afk with 50/100€ bets gives off a very warped view on gambling to newcomers we believe it also strongly negatively impacts streamers that do not stream in this format. (again, assuming the format is based on demo play)

i am no Roshtein fan at all, but Casino Daddy Rep talking about morals is really funny.

They Stream 12-16 hours Day in and out. They hire people to stream - and people to collect bonuses for the bonus hunts.

Imagine guys sitting the whole day collecting bonuses and not allowed to open them by themselves.

So most of the stream (if not one of the three brothers appears for some few hours to show us his gambling "skills" in front of the cam) there is a paid individual in front of the camera playing with money of the company and acting like being happy or surprised about big wins he would only get a tiny margin of.

They constantly talk about how great they are, that they are "printing" money with slots and drive expensive cars. Yet moved to malta (as roshtein) to avoid re-restricted swedish casino laws (Reload bonuses not allowed any more).

For me Casino Daddy is at least as worse as roshtein in terms of morals - Beyond fake and real money. The message provided by these sunny guys is not responsible at all. Roshtein At least does not consider himself superior/morally ahead of other streamers.

 

[Degen]

Let me ask you..
If you were a high roller, really, would you choose to play at a direx NV casino? They're dodgy as fuck.
Especially with a 15k euro per month withdrawal limit. Ridiculous notion.
No, no normal high roller would EVER choose to play there.

 

[goatwack]

Has he addressed this 'oversight' in his videos yet? I like myself a good cringey apology video

 

[Guntis]

Let me ask you..
If you were a high roller, really, would you choose to play at a direx NV casino? They're dodgy as fuck.
Especially with a 15k euro per month withdrawal limit. Ridiculous notion.
No, no normal high roller would EVER choose to play there.

Tell us what's dodgy about N1 Casino?

Regarding a high roller - If you like a casino, its games, design or any other stuff and you are a high roller you can always negotiate for higher withdrawal limits beforehand with any of casino management. Most of them would happily accept your query.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

Let me ask you..
If you were a high roller, really, would you choose to play at a direx NV casino? They're dodgy as fuck.
Especially with a 15k euro per month withdrawal limit. Ridiculous notion.
No, no normal high roller would EVER choose to play there.

agree tbh.

roshtein promotes these unknown casinos so he can make the most money.
playing with demo money ..

 

[Borgie]

agree tbh.

roshtein promotes these unknown casinos so he can make the most money.
playing with demo money ..

Isnt n1 an accredited casino. How can it be unknown?

 

[colinsunderland]

agree tbh.

roshtein promotes these unknown casinos so he can make the most money.
playing with demo money ..

You agree n1 is dodgy? Yet they are accredited . How are they dodgy?

 

[IM_SPORTS]

Isnt n1 an accredited casino. How can it be unknown?

well if roshtein is playing with fake money like a lot of people are suggesting then of course N1 casino have to be questioned too

demo play showing your real balance? who has ever heard of that?

 

[Borgie]

agree tbh.

roshtein promotes these unknown casinos so he can make the most money.
playing with demo money ..

well if roshtein is playing with fake money like a lot of people are suggesting then of course N1 casino have to be questioned too

demo play showing your real balance? who has ever heard of that?
[/QUOTE]

You said the casino was unknown. That's not the same thing.

There seems to be no concrete proof one way or the other that he is legitimate or fake.

I'm afraid all this thread is achieving is as been previously stated giving him publicity.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

well if roshtein is playing with fake money like a lot of people are suggesting then of course N1 casino have to be questioned too

demo play showing your real balance? who has ever heard of that?

You said the casino was unknown. That's not the same thing.

There seems to be no concrete proof one way or the other that he is legitimate or fake.

I'm afraid all this thread is achieving is as been previously stated giving him publicity.
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unknown to me and most people I would imagine

 

[Borgie]

QUOTE="Jono777, post: 1040962, member: 36102"]
In other news, I hear Rosh is attending this years National TV awards

Nominated for 'Best Soap Villain'
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Dirty Den will never be matched

 

[IM_SPORTS]

hopefully roshtein will show his deposit and withdrawals from his bank statement.
that would answer lots of questions

 

[Degen]

When I say dodgy, I'm saying it in relation to bigger casinos.
Can you say you trust n1 casino as much as say, LeoVegas? Leovegas is a publically traded company with transparency from top to bottom. Do you know who owns n1 casino?

Irrelevant but let's compare the streets where each company chooses to base itself
Guess which is which.

 

[Guntis]

hopefully roshtein will show his deposit and withdrawals from his bank statement.
that would answer lots of questions

He hasn't got a bank account