Rimina49 vs Bob casino

Mouche12

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Why going on a crusade and cancelling your PAB? I would be adamant to have my winnings paid and, depending on the amount, I'd seek legal advice if I did not trust the PAB process or the intermediary (which I do, they're both great and it's free of charge).

It just doesn't make any sense.
 

maxd

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... So Bobcasino is a ROGUE and BAD casino in your opinion and should be AVOIDED. Still you ruled in their favor. That is quite interesting. By the way, Mr. Pogg, would you offer me (and other members of this forum) at least ONE explanation for your decision to support a ROGUE casino’s actions against me? ...

Ok, you've crossed into "personal crusade" territory now and you will know from reading the Forum Rules as previously requested that's a violation of said rules. You've made whatever point it is you wanted to make. We won't allow you to use Casinomeister to endlessly take pot-shots at other sites. If you persist you will be shown the door.

FTR I'd happily side with a Rogue casino in a dispute if they were in the right, and so I should: being listed as Rogue does not make every player that crosses their doorstep a saint. The only way to judge such things is on a case-by-case basis and that, as far as I can tell, is exactly what ThePogg did. As I said, rightly so.

Besides, if you don't give a rogue site a fair hearing how can we ever expect them to see the light and change their ways? You can't because you won't give them the opportunity. That's not productive and that's not how we, if (and when) we were in such a situation, would do things.
 
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Hydr0

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Why going on a crusade and cancelling your PAB? I would be adamant to have my winnings paid and, depending on the amount, I'd seek legal advice if I did not trust the PAB process or the intermediary (which I do, they're both great and it's free of charge).

It just doesn't make any sense.

It makes sense if the OP isn’t being entirely honest about the events that led to confiscation of winnings and subsequent account closure. In this case, not proceeding with a PAB that could potentially expose any hidden truths, would be understandable; in an effort to save face.

I guess it’s also not beyond the realm of possibilities that the OP has completely lost confidence in the support process, and hence his ability to win a PAB here, especially after things went south with the POGG etc. Perhaps they feel that MaxD would side with the POGG, without objectively looking at the evidence; of course this isn’t true.

The first of the theories seems more plausible.

My advice to the OP would be to go with PAB if they genuinely have been done wrong. If they haven’t been done wrong, then my advice would be to run for the hills.

As mentioned above a few times already, the KYC process at Bob’s casino ( at least in this case ), does raise eyebrows, and seems extreme and questionable. Would be good to know what actually happened beforehand, that led to seemingly ridiculous measures to verify the OP’s account.
 

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Such a very extensive KYC process usually suggest that casino have very strong feeling about fraud/abuse completed, there are no really other reasons for these kind of tricks (which part of them are bit laughable as there are easier ways to find out things than Skype etc....), alsot ThePogg found casino be right in this case, so don't really with this information seem that this is their normal KYC process.
More we can't know as OP didn't want to go further with PAB which gives bit weird feeling as well if there is nothing to hide and winnings confiscated without any reasons, why to cancel PAB and start crusade over forum which for sure don't bring you a dime what PAB could have been done if OP haven't done anything wrong.
 

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Ok, I have found the Bob casino in the BLACKLISTED section at your website. This is how you define the list members: “This rogue casino list was created to help you avoid the bad casinos…”. So Bobcasino is a ROGUE and BAD casino in your opinion and should be AVOIDED. Still you ruled in their favor. That is quite interesting. By the way, Mr. Pogg, would you offer me (and other members of this forum) at least ONE explanation for your decision to support a ROGUE casino’s actions against me? And why you , as well as a casino representative Homerbert, insist on cutting any communication with me? Isn’t it because you don’t have ANY serious proofs to offer? Why else?

P.S. By the way, Homerbert is representing here N1 casino (great casino according to Pogg) as well as Bob casino (rogue and bad casino according to Pogg). Isn’t it amusing in itself? And somehow these “totally unrelated” casinos have one and the same representative.

Just because a casino is blacklisted does not mean anybody can do what ever they want and expect everyone will be on their side and decide in the players favour. Even blacklisted casinos are not always in the wrong.

You could have had a fair hearing here with a PAB a route you have mysteriously cut off. Which is very strange.
 

SpinUk

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Maybe everyone here a bit
Just because a casino is blacklisted does not mean anybody can do what ever they want and expect everyone will be on their side and decide in the players favour. Even blacklisted casinos are not always in the wrong.

You could have had a fair hearing here with a PAB a route you have mysteriously cut off. Which is very strange.

1. Multiple ID requests leading to eventual confiscation of funds.
2. Cancellation of PAB
3. The pogg finding against him.

I get one of these things happening but all three? And only over a 1000 euros? I cant see nothing being dodgy here from the OP, sorry.
 

Borgie

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Maybe everyone here a bit

1. Multiple ID requests leading to eventual confiscation of funds.
2. Cancellation of PAB
3. The pogg finding against him.

I get one of these things happening but all three? And only over a 1000 euros? I cant see nothing being dodgy here from the OP, sorry.

So the op cancelling the PAB does not seem strange ?
 

Hydr0

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But spin said he cant see nothing here from.the OP being dodgy ?

SpinUK used a double negative...

“he can’t see nothing...“ = he can see something....

Hopefully that makes more sense now.
 
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SpinUk

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Yea it could have been worded better.

Basically I don’t buy it - they dont make you jump through those hoops for nothing and certainly not for a measly 1000 euros risking negative posts all over the internet
 

Hydr0

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You won’t see the OP again. He used up all of his rope.
 
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lockinlove

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So I suspect bob casino refunded all this persons deposits then?

If you take someones deposits all the time and then refuse cashouts. That is called freerolling the player...but bob casino is known to be pretty slimy so this isnt surprising. Actually most direx casinos are great its just bob that has some ethical issues. I actually think bob casino should get the boot from direx nv. They give them a bad name. I have heard dozens of complaints and a few from my friends about some pretty terrible tactics.

I get the mistake about the n1 casino thing, I made that mistake before too and so did others. I am surprised n1 casino was allowed to name themselves that. Its like a casino on direx platform naming themselves direxnv casino. Shouldnt be allowed really if they arent under one management.

You really shouldnt have cancelled the PAB though just so you can let loose in here. Because now where are you? No where. If you are allowed to resumbit it ..if Max would allow it, I suggest you do that and then stop posting completely until it's looked at. Max is very thorough and will hold ANY casino accountable if there is wrong doing.
 

maxd

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If you are allowed to resumbit it .. If you are allowed to resumbit it ..if Max would allow it ...

No problem as far as I'm concerned, just a matter of re-opening the cancelled PAB.
All I need is a request from the OP to do so, preferably in the original Ticket so it's part of the PAB record.
 

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I wish someone would finally take the plunge and bring something like this to a court of law so we all could see the facts and evidence.

And I agree with others that the KYC the casino submitted the customer to is absurd.
 

Rimina49

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Regarding PAB, I don’t think it suits my interests the best way at the moment. Because all I need is to ask the casino about the reason for being punished and also being named a fraudster. This is all I need and I don’t see any justified reason why both the Pogg and casino representative went silent in this thread. Am I the one who seems dodgy?
Casino could claim that I had multiple accounts. Or used a stolen credit card. Was using a fake ID. Or even violated the bonus rules in some way. Dozens of possibilities. Looks like nothing of these applies to me. Then why I am a fraud?

No personal crusade here. Just a straight question requiring a straight answer. Anyway, this persisting silence is also an answer. Self-explanatory one.
Will not post anything else until there will be a meaningful comment from Bob casino.
 

Borgie

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To Max.
Regarding PAB, I don’t think it suits my interests the best way at the moment. Because all I need is to ask the casino about the reason for being punished and also being named a fraudster. This is all I need and I don’t see any justified reason why both the Pogg and casino representative went silent in this thread. Am I the one who seems dodgy?
Casino could claim that I had multiple accounts. Or used a stolen credit card. Was using a fake ID. Or even violated the bonus rules in some way. Dozens of possibilities. Looks like nothing of these applies to me. Then why I am a fraud?

No personal crusade here. Just a straight question requiring a straight answer. Anyway, this persisting silence is also an answer. Self-explanatory one.
Will not post anything else until there will be a meaningful comment from Bob casino.

The rep Homerbet who looked into his for you stated previously in this thread that he would not comment further and suggested you do a PAB - this means Bob Casino will not comment here I am afraid.
 
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