Raging Bull Casino

[gagamel]

We have another active thread about this casino, but it has the bitter BITCH AND MOAN taste.

I want to give the casino another thread and here we go.

The 50 free was another RTG disaster and I tried the 300% bonus. Deposit was 50, 150 Bonus and the WR were 7000. Not good, not bad. Ah, the max. payout was 4500.

I tried it and I was a bit lucky, 1369 to cash out. The bonus is cashable.

I sent my docs in 10 minutes ago. I heard that the verification process is not a PITA. Now I will see.

I will give the rep a PM that there is another thread about the casino. Maybe we can write here if the issue is not about wrong emaisl and such stuff.

I will keep you informed about the cashout process

 

[BMWSTACK]

I will give the rep a PM that there is another thread about the casino. Maybe we can write here if the issue is not about wrong emaisl and such stuff.

I will keep you informed about the cashout process

Ok since its a new thread let me make sure that I state my opinion that max cashout is horrible on 50 % 77% and 100% match bonuses.

Still waiting to see revised terms.

On your cashout I think everyone including yourself knows it will go very smoothly especially since you posted about the "process" in public. The real way to get a true evaluation of the process is to not announce it in public and report back later. But with Raging Bull I don't believe I have really seen anything about delays.

 

[gagamel]

I know what you mean. My normal deposit with RTG casinos is 50$. It`s nearly impossible to make a cashout more than 4500$ with the WR you have there (I mean all RTG Casinos)

I also have to say that I never play slots with high JP`s when playing a bonus.

And I don`t play 10$ bets with 200 in my account. I know that a lot of players play that way.

Not my way of palying slots.

May I ask you how often you were able to cash out more than 30x your deposit?

Thank you and cheers

 

[bowlingbob]

I know what you mean. My normal deposit with RTG casinos is 50$. It`s nearly impossible to make a cashout more than 4500$ with the WR you have there (I mean all RTG Casinos)

I also have to say that I never play slots with high JP`s when playing a bonus.

And I don`t play 10$ bets with 200 in my account. I know that a lot of players play that way.

Not my way of palying slots.

May I ask you how often you were able to cash out more than 30x your deposit?

Thank you and cheers

I've had cashouts of $8,500 off $30 deposit @ Bovada, over 4k off $20 at Cleos...So it can happen but keep playing with max cashouts on bonus and fool yourself its a good deal.

 

[SlotsLover]

I've had cashouts of $8,500 off $30 deposit @ Bovada, over 4k off $20 at Cleos...So it can happen but keep playing with max cashouts on bonus and fool yourself its a good deal.

I could not agree more. I don't care what the max cashout is. NO MAX cashouts on slots. PERIOD. Would be like playing into a RTP of 60%. NO NO NO NO NO.

 

[cjh1969]

Fee for withdrawals

I went to live chat to see about setting up an account and making a $30 deposit using the 300% match but was told that players from the USA can only withdrawal using wire transfers and there is a $45 fee for the service. I will stick to the casinos that do not have such a high charge to withdrawal. I asked about paying back my debit card but live chat said no.

 

[JasonFTA]

Good Day ladies and Gents.

Thanks gagamel for creating the new thread.

Let start with gagamel's post opening post. Firstly, thanks for making that initial deposit as well as congrats on the nice win (didn't break the bank, but I nice win nevertheless). It's always great to see guys have a good experience. As for the $50 free chip, I am sorry that it didn't go down to well.

Regarding his cashout, him mention it here will not make a difference at all. The default pending period is 24 hours, there after it will be refunded to his Neteller account. Having said this, tomorrow is Friday and Monday is a banking holiday, so my suggestion is that gagamel initiates withdrawal process asap to ensure that it comes out of the pending state tomorrow morning early, so that my guys can prep it for payment.

Max cashouts are here to stay especially on the welcome bonus where we are giving you 3 x your deposit in bonus cash. Yes there is wagering attached to it and yes there are other brands that don't limit the cashouts, but we are not other Brands. We are a new brand and trying hard to build a solid operation. We have implemented a VIP program where your cashout terms are determined by your VIP status, with the top tier having no max cashouts. You guys want loyal and trustworthy casinos and we want loyal and trustworthy players. Is that so hard to understand.

Yes, there are max cashouts on the 77% bonus but we are doing away with that offer soon. We just in the middle of a few other projects which includes a NEW brand.

Wins have nothing to do with the size of the deposit or the bonus. We had players the other day that took her balance fro $1.70 to $14,0000 cashable (and that was after redeeming comp points).

What is the objective of a bonus?

@ cjh1969 - regarding fees. Unfortunately, we only offer a wire option as a withdrawal option. We are currently looking into other options. If you know of or can suggest options which you have come across recently, please feel free to bring them to my attention. I will gladly reward you with a little something for your suggestions.

I am not scared to admit when we are wrong or try to hide mistakes. I am here to set the story straight and correct the wrongs where necessary.

Thanks to all the guys out there have given Raging Bull a try and for their feedback, both negative and positive!

Best Regards
Jason (AKA The Machine) ...lol...

 

[Tirilej]

with the top tier having no cashouts.

Poor top tier players

 

[JasonFTA]

Poor top tier players

Oops.... NO MAX CASHOUTS.....lol.... I am blaming that on "having the bad case of the flu"

Thanks for pointing that out for me... you a star!

Regards
Jason

 

[JasonFTA]

FYI - we recently moved our emails onto the "cloud". I have just received feedback from my IT guys that there are problems currently with mails not filtering through correctly for the past few hours. If you mailed support your docs etc and have not received a confirmation reply yet, this could be the reason for the delay.

Feel free to drop me a PM if you need anything or chat to my support guys via live chat if needed.

Have a great day!

Regards
Jason

 

[JasonFTA]

Hi Folks,

I am back..... it's 17:20 and I will be leaving the office at 18:00 (if I am lucky). The reason for me popping in is that I am as sick a dog and will not be in the office tomorrow. The way I currently feel, I don't think I will be back in the office before Monday next week.

I don't want to make any promises, but I will do my best to try and pop in to assist where possible.

If I don't get to chat to you all before the weekend, have a great weekend and take care!

Best Regards
Jason

 

[BMWSTACK]

I know what you mean. My normal deposit with RTG casinos is 50$. It`s nearly impossible to make a cashout more than 4500$ with the WR you have there (I mean all RTG Casinos)

May I ask you how often you were able to cash out more than 30x your deposit?

Thank you and cheers

I am not sure what playthrough has to do with you winning a large amount? I guess the only answer could be is you cash out right after WR is made if you have a win? (very smart way to do it if that's the case).

I never concern myself with WR because I play long sessions.

Yes I in the years and years playing I have won 30x my bet TONS of times. Had balances over 10k lots of times. On RTG I deposit from $25 to $75 multiple times in a session. Also I do not bet high often. $2.50 would be average high bet. Balances that get over 10k yes have $5-$12.50 bets in there.

BTW why are you mention $4500? You say you deposit $50, and I have seen lots of bonuses at 25x MAX, that means your Max cashout is $1250 or $1500 on the 30x you mentioned. I get balances well above those amounts on $50 deposits all the time.

I see you are ok with Max cashout because you say " I never win large amounts". I almost think that the casinos with max cashouts brainwash people into that kind of attitude. Could you imagine a sports team that before a game says "we are not going to win because the other team is better."

Max cashouts are here to stay especially on the welcome bonus where we are giving you 3 x your deposit in bonus cash. Yes there is wagering attached to it and yes there are other brands that don't limit the cashouts, but we are not other Brands. We are a new brand and trying hard to build a solid operation. We have implemented a VIP program where your cashout terms are determined by your VIP status, with the top tier having no max cashouts. You guys want loyal and trustworthy casinos and we want loyal and trustworthy players.

Yes, there are max cashouts on the 77% bonus but we are doing away with that offer soon. We just in the middle of a few other projects which includes a NEW brand.

Wins have nothing to do with the size of the deposit or the bonus. We had players the other day that took her balance fro $1.70 to $14,0000 cashable (and that was after redeeming comp points)

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Max cashouts are here to stay That's not encouraging. Again on a large % bonuses I can possibly understand like the Welcome bonus.

You mention other brands? Your an RTG casino!!! That's the bottom line. You can try to provide better service,payment time and terms to separate yourself. But your terms put you at the bottom of list compared to a few of the others that I will mention in the next sentence. Go look at the successful ones that have been around for a while, Clubworld, Inetbet, Jackpot capital. I honestly don't know any reputable RTG out there that has Max Cashouts. The only ones I can recall that have Max cashout are either ROGUE or OUT OF BUSINESS.

You keep mentioning your casino wanting Loyal and Trustworthy Players, and you have mentioned people who may commit fraud. I think you may have mentioned that's part of the reason you have Max Cashouts. Peoples shouldnt really have to be bothered with fraud problems you may be having. That's the casinos business. And if your having problems then you should look at internal procedures. Going and capping wins is not the solutions.

That's great your removing the max cashout from 77% bonus. how about 50% and 100%? Also you say your in the middle of a project and don't have time to do it now. How long does it take to remove a term? Or are you saying that the cap needs to remain while trying to fund the new brand?

You may be sensitive to me not speaking so positive, but maybe there are some good points.

 

[rena35]

Hi Folks,

I am back..... it's 17:20 and I will be leaving the office at 18:00 (if I am lucky). The reason for me popping in is that I am as sick a dog and will not be in the office tomorrow. The way I currently feel, I don't think I will be back in the office before Monday next week.

I don't want to make any promises, but I will do my best to try and pop in to assist where possible.

If I don't get to chat to you all before the weekend, have a great weekend and take care!

Best Regards
Jason

Get well soon Jason .

 

[JasonFTA]

Hi BMWSTACK,

Yeah, the max cashout is here to stay on the WELCOME OFFER (which is a 300% Match). It's not about removing the term, it's about doing away with the current retention offers and replacing them with NEW ones. We have the outline of the new offers, we just need to roll them out. I personally think the term ROUGE gets used to freely. We are not other brands that cheat players and shave affiliated players etc. So I can't understand why you keep on compairing my brands with these other brands.

That's great that you enjoy and trust Clubworld, Inetbet and Jackpot capital, but these are all brands that have established trustworthy databases over the years.

We trying to grow our player base and if it means not having players of your caliber playing at our casino's then so be it.

All I am asking is that you guys bear with us. We not capping the max cashouts or taking our time changing out the offers because we trying to fund our new brand. We are a small group of hard working guys and gals who are trying their best to build an honest and trustworthy brand.

We have lots of players who are comfortable playing with the current promos. These are players who game for the fun of it and not to gain financial benefits. Guys who are happy to deposit a 100 bucks receive 77 bonus and get lucky enough to cashout 2 grand (which is 20 x their deposit).

Once again, my question is "What is the objective of a bonus?"

Regards
Jason

 

[JasonFTA]

Get well soon Jason .

Thanks Rena35

Have a lovely day and take care my dear.

Regards
Jason

 

[dunover]

Good Day ladies and Gents.

Thanks gagamel for creating the new thread.

Let start with gagamel's post opening post. Firstly, thanks for making that initial deposit as well as congrats on the nice win (didn't break the bank, but I nice win nevertheless). It's always great to see guys have a good experience. As for the $50 free chip, I am sorry that it didn't go down to well.

Regarding his cashout, him mention it here will not make a difference at all. The default pending period is 24 hours, there after it will be refunded to his Neteller account. Having said this, tomorrow is Friday and Monday is a banking holiday, so my suggestion is that gagamel initiates withdrawal process asap to ensure that it comes out of the pending state tomorrow morning early, so that my guys can prep it for payment.

Max cashouts are here to stay especially on the welcome bonus where we are giving you 3 x your deposit in bonus cash. Yes there is wagering attached to it and yes there are other brands that don't limit the cashouts, but we are not other Brands. We are a new brand and trying hard to build a solid operation. We have implemented a VIP program where your cashout terms are determined by your VIP status, with the top tier having no max cashouts. You guys want loyal and trustworthy casinos and we want loyal and trustworthy players. Is that so hard to understand.

Yes, there are max cashouts on the 77% bonus but we are doing away with that offer soon. We just in the middle of a few other projects which includes a NEW brand.

Wins have nothing to do with the size of the deposit or the bonus. We had players the other day that took her balance fro $1.70 to $14,0000 cashable (and that was after redeeming comp points).

What is the objective of a bonus?

@ cjh1969 - regarding fees. Unfortunately, we only offer a wire option as a withdrawal option. We are currently looking into other options. If you know of or can suggest options which you have come across recently, please feel free to bring them to my attention. I will gladly reward you with a little something for your suggestions.

I am not scared to admit when we are wrong or try to hide mistakes. I am here to set the story straight and correct the wrongs where necessary.

Thanks to all the guys out there have given Raging Bull a try and for their feedback, both negative and positive!

Best Regards
Jason (AKA The Machine) ...lol...

On the rest of Planet Earth tomorrow is Thursday.

 

[gagamel]

I am not sure what playthrough has to do with you winning a large amount? I guess the only answer could be is you cash out right after WR is made if you have a win? (very smart way to do it if that's the case).

I never concern myself with WR because I play long sessions.

Yes I in the years and years playing I have won 30x my bet TONS of times. Had balances over 10k lots of times. On RTG I deposit from $25 to $75 multiple times in a session. Also I do not bet high often. $2.50 would be average high bet. Balances that get over 10k yes have $5-$12.50 bets in there.

BTW why are you mention $4500? You say you deposit $50, and I have seen lots of bonuses at 25x MAX, that means your Max cashout is $1250 or $1500 on the 30x you mentioned. I get balances well above those amounts on $50 deposits all the time.

I see you are ok with Max cashout because you say " I never win large amounts". I almost think that the casinos with max cashouts brainwash people into that kind of attitude. Could you imagine a sports team that before a game says "we are not going to win because the other team is better."



Max cashouts are here to stay That's not encouraging. Again on a large % bonuses I can possibly understand like the Welcome bonus.

You mention other brands? Your an RTG casino!!! That's the bottom line. You can try to provide better service,payment time and terms to separate yourself. But your terms put you at the bottom of list compared to a few of the others that I will mention in the next sentence. Go look at the successful ones that have been around for a while, Clubworld, Inetbet, Jackpot capital. I honestly don't know any reputable RTG out there that has Max Cashouts. The only ones I can recall that have Max cashout are either ROGUE or OUT OF BUSINESS.

You keep mentioning your casino wanting Loyal and Trustworthy Players, and you have mentioned people who may commit fraud. I think you may have mentioned that's part of the reason you have Max Cashouts. Peoples shouldnt really have to be bothered with fraud problems you may be having. That's the casinos business. And if your having problems then you should look at internal procedures. Going and capping wins is not the solutions.

That's great your removing the max cashout from 77% bonus. how about 50% and 100%? Also you say your in the middle of a project and don't have time to do it now. How long does it take to remove a term? Or are you saying that the cap needs to remain while trying to fund the new brand?

You may be sensitive to me not speaking so positive, but maybe there are some good points.

My highest amout I ever cashed out with slots was about 3000 Euros two times with DOA and no bonus (deposit was 150 which is 20x my deposit)

And yes, if I play with a bonus and the WR are fulfilled I cash out and run away. And my sessions are always only one deposit, I never make a new deposit the same day.

I never play more per spin than my bankroll divided with 250-300 (depends on the slot)

I see your points very well and I accept them all. But I have to say that we are two very different types of players.

 

[gagamel]

Yesterday in the evening I made my withdrawal. I don`t know if the mail received before or shortly after.

Hi Sascha

Username:

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I know that I can`t deposit with a pending withdrawal. Asked CS and they told me to stay cool until my withdrawal is processed.

This evening I had another mail from the casino:

Hi Sascha

Username:


We want RAGING BULL to be your new RTG home and here’s why…

We’ve been in the digital entertainment industry for years, we know the territory, and we know how to spoil our players with *excellent service, quality games and great promotions like…

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If you have VIP status at your current casino, contact our VIP Helpdesk about our brand new Rewards Program and we’ll place you where you deserve.

RAGING BULL <<< You’re just a click away from the time of your life!

See you in the lobby!

Jason

Ok, thank you very much Jason.

My questions are:

Can I take the coupons while my withdrawal is pending?

If I can take them, what happens with my withdrawal?

Why do you sent such promos to players who have a pending withdrawal?

Do you cancel my withdrawal and confiscate my winnings when I take your offers?

Thank you very much for answering my maybe stupid questions

 

[JasonFTA]

Morning Ladies and Gents. Still ill... booked off with bronchitis. My bad, I had my days mixed up so you were correct with it being "Thursday" yesterday! I must admit I felt so ill, it felt as if I were on another planet....lol...

To answer your questions, you can deposit if you have a pending withdrawal. You can also claim a coupon if you have a pending cashin, just as long as you don't reverse your withdrawal with and active coupon still on your account otherwise the reversed withdrawal will be tied into the wagering of that coupon.

Does this answer your questions?

Regards
Jason

 

[gagamel]

Yes, thank you very much Jason.

 

[wolfydan121]

Well I like ragingbull casino I made a $25 deposit with bonus code wild1 and that gives you $75 and 10 free spins at 1$ a spoon on crystasl waters and I made the Playthough and cashout $491 and !ax cashout was $500 I got to say I'm more then happy with that as there bonuses are very high bonuses and theres s great rep to keep u happy the only problem I have ois with support its like they don't listen to what u say I have screen shots of this but all round in happy

 

[SlotsLover]

purpose of the bonus

Hi BMWSTACK,

Yeah, the max cashout is here to stay on the WELCOME OFFER (which is a 300% Match). It's not about removing the term, it's about doing away with the current retention offers and replacing them with NEW ones. We have the outline of the new offers, we just need to roll them out. I personally think the term ROUGE gets used to freely. We are not other brands that cheat players and shave affiliated players etc. So I can't understand why you keep on compairing my brands with these other brands.

That's great that you enjoy and trust Clubworld, Inetbet and Jackpot capital, but these are all brands that have established trustworthy databases over the years.

We trying to grow our player base and if it means not having players of your caliber playing at our casino's then so be it.

All I am asking is that you guys bear with us. We not capping the max cashouts or taking our time changing out the offers because we trying to fund our new brand. We are a small group of hard working guys and gals who are trying their best to build an honest and trustworthy brand.

We have lots of players who are comfortable playing with the current promos. These are players who game for the fun of it and not to gain financial benefits. Guys who are happy to deposit a 100 bucks receive 77 bonus and get lucky enough to cashout 2 grand (which is 20 x their deposit).

Once again, my question is "What is the objective of a bonus?"

Regards
Jason

The objective of a bonus is to encourage players to deposit so that the casino makes more profit in the long run, either through the gain they make on the playing of the bonus or by enticing players to deposit who then deposit more often (with or without bonuses). My objection to the max cashout rule is that many players just don't realize quite how bad this rule affects their long-run odds and RTP. I never object to casinos not offering bonuses, or only to certain players, or to long playthroughs. My objection to the max cashout is simply that they are Draconian in what they do to the RTP. I ask any slots player who keeps records to truncate his largest three wins of the year to 10x or 20x and see how costly that is. Plus, ruins all the fun. How can one possibly play when the random jackpot is pretty much taken out of play, along with 5 wilds or scatters, let alone getting those 5 wilds or scatters inside a feature with a large multiplier?

 

[chiya]

What's that 4500 OP is speaking about? What IS the max cashout on the 300% specifically? I've been wanting to play RTG for a long and 300% is hard to come by - Like OP, I don't really care about max cashout as long as it's not ridiculous. However, 20x your deposit for example, I would consider '' bad ''. RTG slots are extremely volatile and even with a 0.50 bet you can hit over 1K easily.

If the cashout was fixed at 4.5K that'd be fine but if it's something like 20x that's ridiculous. I did read the T&C and it states it's 4500 but that's where it gets weird - The bonus is up to 750. That means that with a deposit of $250 one could have a bankroll of 1K. Max cashout of that would be 4.5x bankroll. Don't you find this odd? To wager such amount of money you'd have to play with big bets which tends to end in either a bust or a positive balance of several thousands - probably exceeding 4.5K.

 

[gagamel]

I think it would be fair to wait for Jason.

He is ill but I think he can answer all questions when he feels better.

 

[gagamel]

The objective of a bonus is to encourage players to deposit so that the casino makes more profit in the long run, either through the gain they make on the playing of the bonus or by enticing players to deposit who then deposit more often (with or without bonuses). My objection to the max cashout rule is that many players just don't realize quite how bad this rule affects their long-run odds and RTP. I never object to casinos not offering bonuses, or only to certain players, or to long playthroughs. My objection to the max cashout is simply that they are Draconian in what they do to the RTP. I ask any slots player who keeps records to truncate his largest three wins of the year to 10x or 20x and see how costly that is. Plus, ruins all the fun. How can one possibly play when the random jackpot is pretty much taken out of play, along with 5 wilds or scatters, let alone getting those 5 wilds or scatters inside a feature with a large multiplier?

Sorry, but my eyes are bleeding when try to read that. Too much paragraphs with no....

 

[SlotsLover]

Sorry, but my eyes are bleeding when try to read that. Too much paragraphs with no....

A little over the top, but fair enough. I'll make more paragraphs next time.

 

[BMWSTACK]

If the cashout was fixed at 4.5K that'd be fine but if it's something like 20x that's ridiculous. I did read the T&C and it states it's 4500 but that's where it gets weird - The bonus is up to 750. That means that with a deposit of $250 one could have a bankroll of 1K. Max cashout of that would be 4.5x bankroll. Don't you find this odd? To wager such amount of money you'd have to play with big bets which tends to end in either a bust or a positive balance of several thousands - probably exceeding 4.5K.

All you have to do is read the terms.

Yes on the 300% the max cashout is 4500 regardless of what you deposit.

On a lot of their other bonuses they do the 20x and 25x. The max cashout is based upon the DEPOSIT only and does not include the bonuses amount.

They have a 50% bonus up to $500 that is max cashout of $5000. So if you deposit $1000 to get the max bonus of 500 the most you will be able to cashout is $5000 which equals 5x deposit, not good at all.

 

[chiya]

Yeah so like I wrote, 4500 max. cashout is not bad for small depositors, but if you deposit big sums then 4.5k is a joke, for a $250 deposit it's less than 20x. And 20-25x max cashouts are a huge joke.

Clearly designed to screw small depositors over, and why not big depositors too! Thing is all RTG games have two random jackpots in them. If you deposited a $25 to have a lil bit of playtime and hit a 5K random jackpot, the casino can just confiscate over 90% of that jackpot because of these BS T&C's.

 

[gagamel]

Yeah so like I wrote, 4500 max. cashout is not bad for small depositors, but if you deposit big sums then 4.5k is a joke, for a $250 deposit it's less than 20x. And 20-25x max cashouts are a huge joke.

Clearly designed to screw small depositors over, and why not big depositors too! Thing is all RTG games have two random jackpots in them. If you deposited a $25 to have a lil bit of playtime and hit a 5K random jackpot, the casino can just confiscate over 90% of that jackpot because of these BS T&C's.

Yes you are right.

The point is another:

RB has T&C`s. If you can live with them play them. If not take another casino.

Or play RB without a bonus. In the forums is another thread about bonuses and if the time is over for these.

Every casino has different T&C`s. Read them and if you don`t like them go to the next casino.

 

[BMWSTACK]

Yes you are right.

The point is another:

RB has T&C`s. If you can live with them play them. If not take another casino.

Or play RB without a bonus. In the forums is another thread about bonuses and if the time is over for these.

Every casino has different T&C`s. Read them and if you don`t like them go to the next casino.

Yeah you keep saying the same thing. People making the point that its not a good deal will possibly have the casino change the terms. Wouldn't that be a good thing? Feedback like this helps. Its just like restaurant or store reviews, and when smart businesses listen to feedback they change things for the better.

@ Distrance--- Have you signed up at Lucky Red (Clubworld) yet? They have a 400% bonus which should not have a max cashout. I remember taking that bonus and beating playthrough with a balance way over $10,000.00.

 

[chiya]

Yeah I have. I feel like I've used all '' old '' RTG's with over 200% deposit bonuses and have gone to the more shady ones too; Loco Panda would be a good example. They took 7 months to pay me $900 after forcing me to first wager my whole balance once after six months of waiting for '' security check '' or whatever. Mysteriously enough wagering $1500 once reduced my balance by a whopping $600. Well can't complain since most people never see their money from LP or their sister casinos ..

Anyhow, I've decided to settle for more known casinos that are known to pay up but like I said - I've used them all, so my only chances for big bonuses are casinos like RB that are '' new ''. Not sure how new they are exactly but I hadn't heard from them before this thread. And don't get me wrong .. I'll be sure to play RB's first offer, but it doesn't mean I can't give negative feedback on their T&C's.

The sad part is that all the '' good '' RTG casinos with big bonuses .. And same goes for Microgaming btw, a lot of CR casinos for ex. give 400-500% bonuses .. I never won a penny from those. My RTP was probably negative after playing through all of those. And then once in a blue moon when I actually WIN I run into issues; rogue casino or otherwise refuses to pay + other issues too .. Still salty about that Yakocasino issue too. Ugh.. the suspense is killing me while not hearing anything from maxd regarding the pab.

 

[michielm1]

I see more than a few topics on raging bull casino...
Why the fuzz about some 13 in a dozen rtg casino which isnt even remotely accredited in any way, shape or form???

 

[JasonFTA]

Hi there guys,

Wow, you all have been very busy in my absence. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you all, been in and out meeting, negotiating deals as well as cracking skulls for the majority of the day.

Firstly, I have changed the max cashout on the Raging Bull Casino welcome bonus from $4500 to $5000 which equates to 20 x the max deposit of $250.
Secondly, Raging Bull Casino launched at the beginning of Feb 2015 so we are a fairly new brand. However the Management team (which includes me...lol...) have all been in the igaming business from the beginning and we have all worked for some of the biggest MGS brands in the past.

I know I asked the question "What is the purpose of a bonus". My understanding of a bonus is to incentivise a player for their loyalty as well as to allow for more game time.
In the past, I have advised my VIP's to rather not accept match offers due to limitations and restrictions but that I would rather reward them with freebies based on their past activity. To be honest, 99% of the guys opted in for that option.

Bonuses are headaches. I don't punt that much but when I do punt, I NEVER accept a bonus. # 1 reason is that I play Blackjack and # 2 reason is, I know that bonuses are in favor of the house.

To the guys that have given us a punt and enjoyed it.... thanks a ton, to those of you who haven't yet tried us out. Give us a bash and let me know your thoughts.

Regards
Jason

 

[dunover]

I gave up with Raging Bull as when I tried to deposit this weekend it kept coming up with 'reached the maximum number of transactions allowed for this payment method (debit card)' even though I'd only done a few before. Silly pink message box. I think that's me and my brief dalliance with RTG (Robbing The Gullible) games over with.

 

[JasonFTA]

Hi Dunover,

Sorry about this error which you received. I have my guys working on this for you. We have updated your banking profile and this should be resolved.
In the meantime, I matched your last successful deposit with a 100% match.

I looked into your game play and I see that the games were a bit harsh, maybe you can look at a few game suggestions below and wo know, maybe they can held in a cashable balance. These are just suggestions and I can't gaurantee that you will break the bank on them.

Ghost Ship
Triple Twister
Aztecs Treasure
Pay Dirt

Give these a punt and let's see. Don't come hunt me down if they don't work out for you.

Regards
Jason

 

[spintee]

I did see the post the other day but as I had a big shout in the other thread I thought I see what people are saying

@Dunover I wish they would of denied my transactions in the last week

Had a good few depos's, Nothing majour but still a loss I love a depo bonus gives extra playtime, & If you do hit big than you either play a good game and chance to cash out good or get decent play time,

@Jason, With the weekend bonus there is 3 of them, 25 depo / 50 / 100/ It states you can use one each day? I used the 25 one on Friday & Sat than on Sunday it had gone? So you missed a depo of me there, Can you only use one for each day, Such if you use one than you canot use it again?

Cheers

Edit:: With the weekend bonus you get free spins and you have to use theses first, I hit a decent win and slamed my wager over the roof

 

[JasonFTA]

Hi spintee,

The offers should be available all three days. even though you claimed them the previous two days, that should not affect anything. Can you recall the time you logged in to claim the offer. It could have something to do with server time and when the promo was set up to end. I will have to look into this for you.

Anxiously awaiting your reply!

Regards
Jason

 

[spintee]

Hi spintee,

The offers should be available all three days. even though you claimed them the previous two days, that should not affect anything. Can you recall the time you logged in to claim the offer. It could have something to do with server time and when the promo was set up to end. I will have to look into this for you.

Anxiously awaiting your reply!

Regards
Jason

It was geting late around 9 - 10 pm U.K on the Sunday, The other 2 offers was there except the 25 deposit one ? I did try taping in the code but to no avail

 

[dunover]

Hi Dunover,

Sorry about this error which you received. I have my guys working on this for you. We have updated your banking profile and this should be resolved.
In the meantime, I matched your last successful deposit with a 100% match.

I looked into your game play and I see that the games were a bit harsh, maybe you can look at a few game suggestions below and wo know, maybe they can held in a cashable balance. These are just suggestions and I can't gaurantee that you will break the bank on them.

Ghost Ship
Triple Twister
Aztecs Treasure
Pay Dirt

Give these a punt and let's see. Don't come hunt me down if they don't work out for you.

Regards
Jason

Cheers for that, 4 minutes at minimum stake and gone lol....! I wasn't getting at receiving a ND chip just saying the deposit issue is present. As you honestly point out the bonuses are massively in the casinos' favour where RTG are concerned as their RTPs are clearly much lower than other software. If Netent or MG offered the bonuses RTG casinos do, they'd be bust in a week!

Players just need to remember why RTG bonuses appear so 'generous' compared to other software. There is a reason for it which I can skip by asking regular RTG players to compare their 'bust' deposits to those with which they cashed out with.

When players come on here and say 'I have made 40 consecutive deposits at X or Y MG or Netent site without a w/d'..... I am automatically sceptical as I will be 99% sure from my own experience that this will be down to their lack of discipline to w/d at a realistic profit instead of playing until bust.

When players say the same about RTG sites, I will 99% believe them.

 

[JasonFTA]

Hi spintee,

Thanks for the confirmation, this is really strange as I have checked the coupon sets (rules) and even server time wouldn't of affected this as you are in the UK so you are ahead of the server time.

I have just checked your account and I see that you were successful in claiming it on the Sunday.
The transaction dates and times are as follows:

8/7/2015 8:00:48 AM 1663999 Coupon redeemed WILD1 (2 of Unlimited)(10 free spins)
8/8/2015 8:56:09 AM 1683228 Coupon redeemed WILD1 (3 of Unlimited)(10 free spins)
8/9/2015 3:57:02 AM 1697439 Coupon redeemed WILD1 (4 of Unlimited)(10 free spins)

Let me know.

Regards
Jason

 

[BMWSTACK]

I know I asked the question "What is the purpose of a bonus". My understanding of a bonus is to incentivise a player for their loyalty as well as to allow for more game time.
In the past, I have advised my VIP's to rather not accept match offers due to limitations and restrictions but that I would rather reward them with freebies based on their past activity. To be honest, 99% of the guys opted in for that option.

Bonuses are headaches. I don't punt that much but when I do punt, I NEVER accept a bonus. # 1 reason is that I play Blackjack and # 2 reason is, I know that bonuses are in favor of the house.

You need to understand what RTG and their players are about. You mentioned you and others having experience outside RTG. It would be quite important for the success of RB to know RTG.

Most players on RTG do like TAKING BONUSES. Standard RTG Bonuses range from 50% to 100% with the standard restriction being table games & slot tournaments. These bonuses have playthrough and have no MAX CASHOUT.

You mentioned adviding VIPS to not accept bonuses and accept freebies. Now I understand that maybe there were not restrictions on your freebies where you were, but the RTG "Free Chip" will normally have a very low max cashout, unless you are going to treat it like cash.

I know you keep trying to put a positive spin on things. You certainly are upbeat and positive which is great, but we have to compare apples to apples. So when it comes down to it, I and others will only compare you to RTG Casinos. And any feedback I provide is only based upon comparison with RTG. Why do you think I keep questioning the Max Cashout? Its because I do not know a single Accredited RTG or even others that do max cashouts, beyond a large percentage welcome bonus. So in order to compete you at least have to be on a level playing field.

 

[JasonFTA]

Cheers for that, 4 minutes at minimum stake and gone lol....! I wasn't getting at receiving a ND chip just saying the deposit issue is present. As you honestly point out the bonuses are massively in the casinos' favour where RTG are concerned as their RTPs are clearly much lower than other software. If Netent or MG offered the bonuses RTG casinos do, they'd be bust in a week!

Players just need to remember why RTG bonuses appear so 'generous' compared to other software. There is a reason for it which I can skip by asking regular RTG players to compare their 'bust' deposits to those with which they cashed out with.

When players come on here and say 'I have made 40 consecutive deposits at X or Y MG or Netent site without a w/d'..... I am automatically sceptical as I will be 99% sure from my own experience that this will be down to their lack of discipline to w/d at a realistic profit instead of playing until bust.

When players say the same about RTG sites, I will 99% believe them.

Hi Dunover,

Mate, I know you were not in it for a bonus... this was a little gesture from me to you. The same goes for the game suggestions. I don't like doing game suggestion as some players will hold you to those suggestions and I can't deal with death threats any longer...lol.... Just kidding!!

Sorry that the bonus and the suggestion fell flat. I was hoping for a positive outcome, but this bronchitis has resulted in me losing my mojo!

I fixed the issue with regards to your transactions, so it is totally up to you. If you not happy with the run you having, then I will totally understand and respect your decision.

However, when I do visit the UK, I will expect you to meet me for a few beers!

Regards
Jason

 

[gagamel]

Hi Jason

first thank you for managing my withdrawal

I am green VIP level now. How much do I have to deposit to jump one step up (I think it`s red level)?

 

[spintee]

Hi spintee,

Thanks for the confirmation, this is really strange as I have checked the coupon sets (rules) and even server time wouldn't of affected this as you are in the UK so you are ahead of the server time.

I have just checked your account and I see that you were successful in claiming it on the Sunday.
The transaction dates and times are as follows:

8/7/2015 8:00:48 AM 1663999 Coupon redeemed WILD1 (2 of Unlimited)(10 free spins)
8/8/2015 8:56:09 AM 1683228 Coupon redeemed WILD1 (3 of Unlimited)(10 free spins)
8/9/2015 3:57:02 AM 1697439 Coupon redeemed WILD1 (4 of Unlimited)(10 free spins)

Let me know.

Regards
Jason

Well blow me,

You are right I used it in the morning, So wonder why the others 2 showed? or can you use them all across the 3 days? like used each one each day? You must be able to as they showed and the other did not,

Had a couple of deposits on the 2nd it shows as well, I do hate the way alot of sites use that method, the month and day is switched around, instead of the 02/8/15 you get 8/02/15 I think this is a U.S Way

 

[silcnlayc]

Well blow me,

You are right I used it in the morning, So wonder why the others 2 showed? or can you use them all across the 3 days? like used each one each day? You must be able to as they showed and the other did not,

Had a couple of deposits on the 2nd it shows as well, I do hate the way alot of sites use that method, the month and day is switched around, instead of the 02/8/15 you get 8/02/15 I think this is a U.S Way

We in the USA say August 10, 2015 not 10 August 2015. That does not even sound right...military does the same thing which is totally confusing because No one walks around saying 10 of August 2015...do they? ...

 

[dunover]

The logical way is to have units of measurement in ascending/descending order. I.E. marathon completed in 2:34:15 (2hrs 34 mins 15 secs) or a horserace over 1mile, 3 furlongs and 50 yards.

So the logical date is day/month/year.

Which is why the rest of the world has it that way...

 

[Tirilej]

The logical way is to have units of measurement in ascending/descending order. I.E. marathon completed in 2:34:15 (2hrs 34 mins 15 secs) or a horserace over 1mile, 3 furlongs and 50 yards.

So the logical date is day/month/year.

Which is why the rest of the world has it that way...

Not all of the world I believe. We do have it like you but if we say for example our birthdate then it is year/month/day, never the opposite.
Dates otherwise we can write both ways as long as the day and month don't get mixed up.

I know casinos have them in different orders when I register so I have given the wrong birthdate on several occasions.
I have 08/09 so it can easily be mixed if I rush it

 

[JasonFTA]

Hi Jason

first thank you for managing my withdrawal

I am green VIP level now. How much do I have to deposit to jump one step up (I think it`s red level)?

Hi gagamel1,

Welcome to the GREEN BULL VIP tier. The tier movements are based on a number of factors i.e. deposit frequency, number of deposits and number of bets/wagering etc.

Regards
Jason

 

[dionysus]

An an aside, having taught English, dates were always confusing for second language learners as it's NOT universal - for example, here, if my birthday were say, January 20th, 1980, I'd shorthand (as is common in Canada) write 1/20/80 not 20/1/80 (though I personally agree it makes more sense to go day/mo/yr....
20/1/80)...and yes, some people do walk around saying January the 20th along with the 20th of January.
Anyway, we just teach the kids, it's not universal and save yourself the headache by writing the date or abbrev. not the string of digits.

 

[rena35]

I have never done well with Keno or RTG casinos but i had an amazing run of luck. I hope the cashout goes well for me. I got this off of $1 comp point . I will post here if things go smothly .