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I don't remember your exact words but you said it, something like the "T" interns were not a representation of the changes in the country. There is a reason the house is called "The House of Representatives."
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I don't remember your exact words but you said it, something like the "T" interns were not a representation of the changes in the country. There is a reason the house is called "The House of Representatives."
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I guess you like all the softies.
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Yet again are you trying to make me look like the unknowing, uninformed fool..... can you point me to the post where i said, think or suggested that Mr. T hires the interns? Maybe you should take some elementary school English classes too, together with lock.
Yeah, whole bunch of scenarios, like an intern taking the shot. Sure.... that is why there is a Chief Official White House Photographer.
Plus I agreed with ladyhawke's point that we have to give Mr. T the benefit of the doubt since we were not present at the photo shoot.
But then you don't seem to care to read those posts and then keep on hacking on the same again and again.
Maybe the Chief Official White House Photographer has an intern.
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He gets a lot wrong, no doubt about it, but he has to learn the issues & procedures and then immediately answer questions on them, sometimes to a hostile press. It's akin to jamming for a test. Not to mention his age. Plus he seems to wear his thoughts on his sleeve.
Versus a seasoned politician that has had a careers worth of time to learn issues and process.
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Nope. That's why I don't like Sanders. I want US to be strong. I just want your leader to be smart too.
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So he has done nothing good for that country and more bad? Would like some actual reasons from you instead of just saying trump is dumb herp derp
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HR McMaster on 3rd April 2018: "Russia brazenly and implausibly denies its actions, and we have failed to impose sufficient costs"
Mr. T on 4th April 2018: "Nobody has been tougher on Russia than me, but getting along with Russia would be a good thing, not a bad thing. And just about everybody agrees to that except very stupid people."
I'll give you two guesses as to who's words are more credible.
And he clearly did not condemn Russia. He mentioned the brutal Soviet rule but that has nothing to do with today's Russia.
- insulting the 3 Baltic presidents
--> Mr. T is openly saying that the presidents of Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania are "stupid people" because they certainly have a very different opinion about Russia
--> congratulations on 100 years of independence (1941 - 1990 they were under Soviet rule and NOT independent)
- lies in his answers to the press:
--> The caravan is just walking through Mexico, and they do nothing about it
--> NAFTA is a horrible deal for the US
--> we are building the wall already
--> I want to bring the military home, because I want to start to rebuild our nation (what is to rebuild in the US?)
--> surprisingly large numbers of trade with Baltic countries (it is less than $3 billion/year with all 3 of them)
--> NATO was delinquent, they were not paying their bills (nobody gets bills from the NATO)
--> since I came in many many billions additional have been paid by countries (not true, the 2% target for defense spending was agreed years ago)
- insult to the Free Press in the US
--> pick a real reporter, one from the Baltics, not fake news
Overall, completely ridiculous from an apparently clueless US president.
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HR McMaster on 3rd April 2018: "Russia brazenly and implausibly denies its actions, and we have failed to impose sufficient costs"
Mr. T on 4th April 2018: "Nobody has been tougher on Russia than me, but getting along with Russia would be a good thing, not a bad thing. And just about everybody agrees to that except very stupid people."
I'll give you two guesses as to who's words are more credible.
- insulting the 3 Baltic presidents
--> Mr. T is openly saying that the presidents of Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania are "stupid people" because they certainly have a very different opinion about Russia - Completely ridiculous from an US president.
- lies in his answers to the press:
--> The caravan is just walking through Mexico, and they do nothing about it
--> NAFTA is a horrible deal for the US
--> we are building the wall already
--> I want to bring the military home, because I want to start to rebuild our nation (what is to be rebuild in the US?)
--> surprisingly large numbers of trade (it is less than $3 billion with all 3 of them)
--> NATO was delinquent, they were not paying their bills
--> since I came in many many billions additional have been paid by countries
- insult to the Free Press in the US
--> pick a real reporter, one from the Baltics, not fake news
That list is not lies.
What is there to build in the US? You serious?
NATO wasnt paying a portion. Since 2015 there has been an increase of 46 billion. Some of that had to do with Trump..some..not all because there was an increase after Russia, Ukraine issues. Some unbias professionals like the vice president of defense and foreign policies at the cato institute stated that it would have something to do with Nato fearing Trump wont provide their share if others dont.
And yes countries have increased their spending, including Nato countries at Trumps request.
Nafta is pretty complex for any one of us to understand completely. But there are many negatives. After lengthy research it was proven that it hurt blue collar workers in jobs that relied on tariff protections. It showed a significant drop in wage growth. cant remember the article but Im pretty sure it was written in business Insider. Thats just one out of many
And woopty doo he called the media fake again. The room laughed.
Facts are facts. Your opinion doesnt make someone a liar because you dont like them.
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Sanders too weak on Foreign Policy. Kasich too weak on immigration for me.
I wanted Jeb Bush, but he seemed not too interested.
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He's unreliable, lying all the time. Hardly a good ally for anyone. That's why I want Europe to come closer to China and trade more with them.
Trump only thinks of himself...I really don't think he cares about US either. He cares only about votes and popularity. He has never even tried uniting the country...just keeps attacking anything that seems left-leaning or liberal. He doesn't know how to do deals but he's good at destroying them with his "my way or highway"-attitude. But because of him people seem to have gotten more active in politics so that's a good thing. But yeah from my point of view...it's really hard to find good things that he has done. Maybe you can name a few that I could consider good things?
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Yes I am serious. Mr. T took over a growing economy with the lowest unemployment rate for a long time. What is there to rebuild? Starting a new recession maybe?
- "NATO wasn't paying a portion" --> what has NATO to pay?
- The increased spending was agreed at a NATO summit and countries have been slowly increasing their defense spending according to the plan.
- What share does anyone have to contribute to NATO?
- NAFTA is certainly not perfect just like any other trade deal, but just as certainly not horrible. The clue is in "deal" which means a compromise between the parties. It led to a massive increase in trade between the three countries.
- you find it funny when the US president repeatedly calls on live TV the Free Press in the US Fake News?
Which part of my post is opinion? Those are all facts!
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Yeah I don't know about Kasich's immigration plans. He just seemed like a good and smart guy. I wouldn't mind if Romney ran again too...could be a good republican candidate imo. Not sure who could be good from democratic side except Biden. Maybe Kamala Harris.
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You're wasting your time.
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Romney is running for Senate I think. Getting ready for a 2020 run perhaps.
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Took a while to think one but North Korea-situation seems to improving so that's one. But you need to tell me more what good Trump has done.
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That was 4 years ago. With little to no upgrades since.
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With the economy...if you elected a monkey. Then monkey would be some sort of great president. How come you don't appreciate that Obama got you to that point? Tax cuts are fine yeah. I mean aren't they always? But they shouldn't have cut rich people's taxes. They were doing just great already. Should've raised their taxes imo to deal with healthcare issues and social security/national debt. Rich people don't have a problem to find more money from...well...everywhere.
Now Paul Ryan wants to cut from those programs (healthcare, social security) 'cause of the debt.
Sean Hannity speaks about 8 disasterous years under Obama...sure some people got left behind but I don't see how Trump is making their situation any better. And this thing about cutting the regulations...like that itself is a good thing. How about get rid of all regulations and see what happens. It's important to know what kind of regulations Trump is getting rid of.
Isis was already being crushed under Obama. Trump hasn't done anything there that made some kind of major difference. Rebuildiing the military...like your military is in bad shape or something? But sure spend more money for it and get more debt.
And FoxNews' attack against other media and FBI...I mean come on. FoxNews and Sinclair Broadcast Group are the enemy of democracy. They are like RT in US. Their brainwashing efforts are quite effective.
I don't get how Trump or any new president in office can get vilified so early into their tenure. That's what baffles me.
After the the world got carried away with the Obama 'Yes we can' shtick it turns out he didn't do an awful lot himself in the first term. He's had an underwhelming eight years whilst Trump has had a year and a half and is expected to perform miracles?
If anything, the first four years are transitioning from the previous administration and setting your own plans in motion. Trump's being lambasted for his personality flaws and not being given a fair crack of the whip I feel, and detractors are projecting their dislike of him as a person as opposed to a president....
After the the world got carried away with the Obama 'Yes we can' shtick it turns out he didn't do an awful lot himself in the first term. He's had an underwhelming eight years whilst Trump has had a year and a half and is expected to perform miracles?
If anything, the first four years are transitioning from the previous administration and setting your own plans in motion. Trump's being lambasted for his personality flaws and not being given a fair crack of the whip I feel, and detractors are projecting their dislike of him as a person as opposed to a president....
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So why Trump should get the credit for such great economy? Let's see after 4 years then. Let's give Obama the credit for current economy that he deserves.
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Thats what haters do. Make up things and demand answers. He has done a fair bit and its only been a little bit. Most presidents have a tough time getting anything of significance done in 8 years. But this is the hate monger I spoke of earlier. Instead of the media declaring war on him because they are liberals and mad they are lost, they could have helped unite the country. Too much hate anger these days.
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Aside from the top generals confirming alot of it had to do with Trump it also had alot to do with him handing power over to military command instead of just the president. He changed the rules of engagement. It is no coincidence it all happened 5 months after he did.
Even military officials of Obama said it was too slow because they always had to go up the chain of command all the way to the white house for orders.
He also armed the Syrian defense forces in order to retake Raqqa from isis. Not only is it a great military move, it was a great decision to save lives of his soldiers by not having to send them in on foot. So yes, he has made a major difference and both sides agree. Haters disagree
As for your comment about Fox attacking the FBI. Please show evidence discrediting them and all the text messages. How come you dont like real proof though but you like accusations made by mainstream media without any proof.
I think the media has played a huge part in this left/ right divide. They could have opted to be more selective in their critique for the things that actually matter. It's very easy to form a narrative and sway people's opinions of someone.....they hold all the power essentially.
They've managed to fragment a country priding itself on patriotism and pride, it's like they want to segregate society and set everyone back. With a bit more support, who knows how much more Trump could have achieved by now
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Trump shouldn't get credit for the economy, or take credit for it. It's just rallying support for a second term. I don't deny that Obama did some good work in his stint
He should get credit for some of it and CEO's of different markets have said so including Dow Jones CEO and other CEO's like blackstone.
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I think the media has played a huge part in this left/ right divide. They could have opted to be more selective in their critique for the things that actually matter. It's very easy to form a narrative and sway people's opinions of someone.....they hold all the power essentially.
They've managed to fragment a country priding itself on patriotism and pride, it's like they want to segregate society and set everyone back. With a bit more support, who knows how much more Trump could have achieved by now
I agree. Even if the media disagree with some stuff it doesnt mean you have to go all out crazy towards the guy. Its your country, you want to see it succeed. Not be a helping hand in its downfall and negative image. I rooted for Obama his whole 8 years. Even when he did a bunch of stupid things and broke promises. I hope he got it together because a strong USA president, is good for all of North America.
Not once did I want to see Obama fail because I disliked him.
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I thought that was the president's job to unite the country. But he attacked the media all his campaign. How could the media unite the country after that? For the hate part you can thank Trump again. Obviously worked since you really hate CNN and liberals etc. Please go and have a vacation or something. You're starting to lose it.
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Does trump have access to us 24 hours a day or does the media?
yes I know every time someone disagrees with one or two of you, the attacks start. But I would love a vacation, any suggestions?
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I think any upturn in the economy is likely based on short- term reaction. I will judge his economic prowess after two terms, to get the full picture
Like with any politician....
Its true. But he still gets credit for that boom
Im not sure where the market sits the last few months since their comments, havent really looked.
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LOL. Well atleast you made me laugh which is a big change from making me facepalm most times.
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California's quite nice this time of year
Cali has nice grapes to make wine, and nice beaches. But I would be surrounded by angry liberals. Are you trolling me?
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And the military coming home is going to do that?
Considering it will save them billions of dollars by bringing them back, yes.
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Business News shows and and Business News guests are more practical than political.
I watch the morning Fox Business News and Obama was not considered a pro business person, Trump is, businesses like certainty which one of the reason why the stock market went up, you see it going down now with all the talk of a trade war which businesses don't like.
Trump undid 860 regulations, businesses hate regulation. No doubt there were some bad ones in there.
All the corporate guests I see on the Fox Business all say the same thing, layers of regulations, the home Depot co-owner said a couple years ago, he's never be able to start that business with today's regulations.
The retired military generals say their robbing peter to pay paul just to keep equipment going, there has been a quite a few accidents/mishaps lately. Its not just one general saying, its several different ones saying it. At some point I have to believe there is truth in what their saying.
The only problem I had with the tax cuts was something called carried interest, at least they may fix it.
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One of the questions that gets asked in this thread is - why is Trump so disliked. Why is there so much hatred of the man himself, rather than his policies.
Trump has an unfortunate physical demeanor - the hair, the orange tan, the panda eyes, the constant gesticulating with his (tiny) hands, his constant use of bigly, better, best - which make him a sure-fire target for caricature.
Neil Kinnock in the UK also had the same unfortunate demeanor, to the extent that the Labour Party was considered unelectable while he was its leader. He went on to have a stellar career in the European Union as a European Commissioner, Vice-president of the European Commission, and numerous high-level UK positions since. He made a career where his physiognomy didn't matter, but his intelligence and talent did.
It's a sad state of affairs but in today's fitness-obsessed, celebrity-obsessed, youth-obsessed culture, everything is about how you look, rather than what you do. And this, I believe, is why DT is regarded as such a figure of fun.
But it doesn't answer the question as to why there is such divisiveness across America and its attitudes towards Trump.
He is widely considered to be a liar, bigot, racist, con-artist, failed bankrupt, unable to command loyalty, turns on a dime to stab loyal staff in the back, etc. In other words, he is completely unpresidental.
Further, his supporters are in turn uneducated, gullible, racist, bigoted, misogynistic etc. And his detractors are the ones who are able to see through his bluster and his lies.
BUT... that is nowhere near the truth at all. I happened across a very enlightening article - admittedly pre-election - that more than clarifies the position of both Trump and anti-Trump supporters. It is definitely worth a read.
"...where Trump opponents view Trump presidency as a disaster and the end to the US as we know it, Trump supporters hope for the creative destruction in the government, where Trump won't have enough power to do real damage to the country because of the limits on executive power, but will be able to stir everything up enough to bring about some change."
Anti-Trump supporters "value civility, respect, politeness above all - and for them Trump is unacceptable. Trump supporters "view (the) economy to be the most important thing for the US and is of the opinion that too much politeness in political discourse leads to groupthink and lack of progress."
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Trump has an unfortunate physical demeanor - the hair, the orange tan, the panda eyes, the constant gesticulating with his (tiny) hands, his constant use of bigly, better, best - which make him a sure-fire target for caricature.
Neil Kinnock in the UK also had the same unfortunate demeanor, to the extent that the Labour Party was considered unelectable while he was its leader. He went on to have a stellar career in the European Union as a European Commissioner, Vice-president of the European Commission, and numerous high-level UK positions since. He made a career where his physiognomy didn't matter, but his intelligence and talent did.
It's a sad state of affairs but in today's fitness-obsessed, celebrity-obsessed, youth-obsessed culture, everything is about how you look, rather than what you do. And this, I believe, is why DT is regarded as such a figure of fun.
But it doesn't answer the question as to why there is such divisiveness across America and its attitudes towards Trump.
He is widely considered to be a liar, bigot, racist, con-artist, failed bankrupt, unable to command loyalty, turns on a dime to stab loyal staff in the back, etc. In other words, he is completely unpresidental.
Further, his supporters are in turn uneducated, gullible, racist, bigoted, misogynistic etc. And his detractors are the ones who are able to see through his bluster and his lies.
BUT... that is nowhere near the truth at all. I happened across a very enlightening article - admittedly pre-election - that more than clarifies the position of both Trump and anti-Trump supporters. It is definitely worth a read.
"...where Trump opponents view Trump presidency as a disaster and the end to the US as we know it, Trump supporters hope for the creative destruction in the government, where Trump won't have enough power to do real damage to the country because of the limits on executive power, but will be able to stir everything up enough to bring about some change."
Anti-Trump supporters "value civility, respect, politeness above all - and for them Trump is unacceptable. Trump supporters "view (the) economy to be the most important thing for the US and is of the opinion that too much politeness in political discourse leads to groupthink and lack of progress."
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He was not supposed to win. The left is still traumatized.
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The progressive left has hyjack the Democratic party, that's the cause of the division.
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The 'Progressive Left' seems to be a catch-all phrase for anything rotten in the State of Denmark, or should I say, in the US.
Rectifying real or perceived 'social injustices' and introducing social reform is becoming the liberal manifest norm many countries. I believe strongly in some of these policies, while others I detest, particularly those which are leading to the creation of the dreaded 'nanny culture'.
So why do you consider the progressive left is such a bad thing for the Dems and the US, and also, where is its main power base?
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I don't think there are any progressive policies I like.
No idea where the power base is or where it spread from.
Who decides what is just/unjust?
Isn't it the rule of law that makes us all equal and not color or wealth?
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The cost for 2,000 troops in Syria will pay for mending the entire infrastructure in the US? Right!
The missile attack alone cost 93 million.
And 11.5 million a day to be in Syria.
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The cost for 2,000 troops in Syria will pay for mending the entire infrastructure in the US? Right!
Did he say the entire infrastructure?
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Isn't it "it" in Sweden? I was watching some Gen N videos awhile back.
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So much so, they stood outside one year (I think) after his inauguration, at night, screaming at the sky. A bunch of them. My thought that night.... WTF???!!!??
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