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ChopleyIOM

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Aye. I remain not hugely fussed. The games I play tend to only have one RTP model available anyway. If those games suddenly get removed or offer poorer models, I’ll probably stop playing them.

(I think even Tombola have changed their RTP, and their games are all their own creations. Tsk. I stick there for the free games which I never win, and the occasional wager-free bonus.)

Looks like Tombola have dropped from 98.5% to 98.25%, so I think they get a pass TBH :)
 

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Looks like Tombola have dropped from 98.5% to 98.25%, so I think they get a pass TBH :)

I would like to add, and correct me if I'm wrong as I am no Tombola expert, Tombola is a one-off game on their site, which you cannot play anywhere else at a different RTP?

If that's the case, I personally have no issue if they drop it down to 50%.

The con for me is the playing of exactly the same game at another site, that's designed to give a different return - a predatory practice that relies on the naivety of players.
 

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I would like to add, and correct me if I'm wrong as I am no Tombola expert, Tombola is a one-off game on their site, which you cannot play anywhere else at a different RTP?

If that's the case, I personally have no issue if they drop it down to 50%.

The con for me is the playing of exactly the same game at another site, that's designed to give a different return - a predatory practice that relies on the naivety of players.
That is correct they're an entirely self-contained outfit, the games are certainly....... unique!

I did a video about them a couple of years ago.

 

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That is correct they're an entirely self-contained outfit, the games are certainly....... unique!

I did a video about them a couple of years ago.


Not too shabby, from £75 up to £200 in 50 minutes.

I've washed 50 down the drain in 10 before. I may give them a little go.
 

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94% slots and no autoplay is actually a pretty good balancing act, getting 20 dead manual spins in a row will be a crash course on how rtp affects your balance and play time. The ukgc may have inadvertently scuppered the casino's move to fleece players, certainly won't help, no 'well i've set off 100 spins so may as well see them out' (on autopilot)

Thing is, the 94% maths model might have more smaller returns so you wouldn't even notice if you didn't check. 94% and low volatility will keep your bankroll intact longer than 98% and high volatility unless you get that 1 in a billion huge win on the hv monster.

Not defending lowering RTP here but just take a look at Vegas slots: all bells and whistles, longer gameplay in most cases yet crap RTP.

If online casino's want to retain customers they can't afford it to give them bad experience after bad experience.
 

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Not too shabby, from £75 up to £200 in 50 minutes.

I've washed 50 down the drain in 10 before. I may give them a little go.
They're not the slickest and/or most exciting games in the world, but if you can get your head around the fact that ultimately all you're doing is playing a random game with a house edge and you want to have a bit of a gamble, then it makes sense to make the house edge as small as possible.

The Bubble/Glow games are actually quite relaxing to play, and indeed the whole vibe of the site seems to be far more chilled out than your average online casino - there's a lot to like about it IMO.

6% house edge or 1.75% house edge - choose your poison :)
 

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So who's compiling that list of the "decent" "unregulated" sites running at high RTP on legit software?
I think we're already around the limit of this house's tolerance as far as discussing unregulated offerings is concerned 🤣. A list of names would probably be a step too far, even though the regulated UK market is disintegrating.
 

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Thing is, the 94% maths model might have more smaller returns so you wouldn't even notice if you didn't check. 94% and low volatility will keep your bankroll intact longer than 98% and high volatility unless you get that 1 in a billion huge win on the hv monster.

Not defending lowering RTP here but just take a look at Vegas slots: all bells and whistles, longer gameplay in most cases yet crap RTP.

If online casino's want to retain customers they can't afford it to give them bad experience after bad experience.
Can you name a well known 94% slot that does this? The nlc hv maths is not really my cup of tea, I'm happy with 1-1500x top wins, like raging rhino. (95.9%rtp) But if the house edge doubles my playtime will plummet, number of bonuses hit etc...
 

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Can you name a well known 94% slot that does this? The nlc hv maths is not really my cup of tea, I'm happy with 1-1500x top wins, like raging rhino. (95.9%rtp) But if the house edge doubles my playtime will plummet, number of bonuses hit etc...

I can't. I said "might" :p Someone with access to gamesheets could tell you the hitrate (if provided) between the different maths models a provider offers.
 

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Plenty of low and med volatility slots with decent RTP. Why compromise?

You are shooting yourself in the foot before you've even started.

Im also not put off by a slot with a low max win. In the few years I have been playing, my biggest wins rarely go over 1000x anyway.
 

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Plenty of low and med volatility slots with decent RTP. Why compromise?

You are shooting yourself in the foot before you've even started.

Im also not put off by a slot with a low max win. In the few years I have been playing, my biggest wins rarely go over 1000x anyway.

Unless there's going to be a big fuss about lower RTP and different maths models most players simply won't notice and just play on. If a provider (or casino) can make a player think they're still getting the same playtime as before whilst RTP is much lower and the masses keep coming back they're not going to change it.

I'm pretty sure this is what Unibet is trying right now: throw out a couple of mid-range RTP games out there and see if regular customers even notice. And let's be honest here: we aren't regular customers.
 

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Unless there's going to be a big fuss about lower RTP and different maths models most players simply won't notice and just play on. If a provider (or casino) can make a player think they're still getting the same playtime as before whilst RTP is much lower and the masses keep coming back they're not going to change it.

I'm pretty sure this is what Unibet is trying right now: throw out a couple of mid-range RTP games out there and see if regular customers even notice. And let's be honest here: we aren't regular customers.

100% agree, but you, my friend, know better, so why shoot yourself in the foot? :)
 

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Unless there's going to be a big fuss about lower RTP and different maths models most players simply won't notice and just play on. If a provider (or casino) can make a player think they're still getting the same playtime as before whilst RTP is much lower and the masses keep coming back they're not going to change it.

I'm pretty sure this is what Unibet is trying right now: throw out a couple of mid-range RTP games out there and see if regular customers even notice. And let's be honest here: we aren't regular customers.
Save them the bother - they won't, or more accurately, not enough that will tip the <players, <revenue equation. They're probably more concerned (if at all) at UKGC developments on their bottom line, than losing a customer base over RTP tbh.
 

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CORRECT, it's when he screams, 'Game over man, game over!'

Your prize is an online slot with an autoplayer.

Sorry, I was dreaming there for a moment.


Very apt dialogue Chop, must be 20+ years ago when I last watched that. I'm holding out hope 'competition' between businesses returns for the rtp factor, but won't be wasting my finger joints on lengthy mouse clicking sessions regardless.
 

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Very apt dialogue Chop, must be 20+ years ago when I last watched that. I'm holding out hope 'competition' between businesses returns for the rtp factor, but won't be wasting my finger joints on lengthy mouse clicking sessions regardless.
Try a Stakelogic game for ultimate experience in slow, manual clicks. When you click on the Gamstop logo on a site it should just divert you to one of their games - will have the same effect.
 

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The super casino category was not used in the UK as far as I know.

I know @Kroffe first mentioned it for Sweden a while back. Not sure if its still there.

I had the Super Casino category though bamber as I closed my co.uk account and opened a .com account, and I can still access the 98% slots, the category itself just seems to have gone.

Would be interested to know what Kroffe can see there now :)
 

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The super casino category was not used in the UK as far as I know.

I know @Kroffe first mentioned it for Sweden a while back. Not sure if its still there.
I think they have removed it.
Used to be a couple of Netent slots running at 98% (Twin spin, fruit shop etc) but they all seem to be back at 96% now.
Gonzo Megaways and Mystery reels Megaways are 98% but that was never exclusive to a specific market.
 

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