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Repeated violations of forum rule 1.16 - troll
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- Mar 11, 2009
- Location
- New York
One of the main reasons I stopped playing online over a year ago after playing Video Poker endlessly for a good 9/10 years, was the direct result of suddenly having such ridicules results endlessly for two years in a row. I was convinced the game was nothing more then a slot machine and my sudden change in outcomes (for over two years) was a result of the RTP being adjusted like a slot machine. I could only assume the previous settings were probably close to the expected 99.5% return since I certainly couldn’t tell the difference, or had any complaints regardless how much I lost during that time.
I tried like hell to find out how online Video Poker was really being dealt using a server, and most here already know what my endless efforts were able to confirm which was absolutely nothing.
I read this article today in Casino Player magazine and think it could shed some light on how Video Poker being dealt from a server actually works. It clearly explains the differences between Class 111 and Class 11 Video Poker machines.
I’d be willing to bet this is exactly how online Video Poker (and all other table games) actually works. Since there is no way to confirm how online poker (or any other table game) actually works one way or the other (except for hear say), I see no reason why not to believe it is a Class 11 program that runs off of a server.
Here is the article:
There are different types of Video poker machines and it’s a rather complex subject, but I’ll try to keep it brief. The video poker machines that you see in, say, Las Vegas or Atlantic City, are Class 111 machines, meaning the cards are randomly selected by a random number generator (RNG) from a 52-card deck. Once the initial five-card hand is dealt, you can hold whatever cards you want, and then the RNG will deal replacement cards from the remaining 47 cards (i.e., from cards that you did not hold).
Because the cards are randomly dealt, you can calculate with great accuracy the odds of getting a royal flush, straight flush, or five–of-a-kind in the case of Joker Poker. In addition, your playing decision (i.e., which cards you hold) does affect the final outcome of the hand. On the Class 111 machines, you can determine the return of the machine by looking at the pay schedule. For example, a 9/6 jacks-or-better game will have a 99.5% return (assuming you play your hands perfectly).
The video poker machines in NY racinos are Class 11 machines, meaning the results are NOT determined by random selection of cards from a 52-deck. The video poker (and slot) machines in NY are actually video lottery terminals (VLT’s). They work on the same basis as an instant lottery scratch-off ticket, meaning the terminal receives the next ticket from the lottery central computer and displays the predetermined outcome on the VLT. Therefore, there is no skill involved in VLT’s. All VLT’s in NY racinos must return a specific percentage (it used to be 92% but I’m not sure what it is now).
Therefore, even though players think they are playing a high return 9/6 Jacks-or-better machine (or in your case a Joker Poker machine), the pay schedules you see on VLT can not be used to determine the return on the machine. We can calculate what the odds are of getting five-of-a-kind on a Class 111 VP machine but we have no idea what it is for a Class 11 VLT machine.
I tried like hell to find out how online Video Poker was really being dealt using a server, and most here already know what my endless efforts were able to confirm which was absolutely nothing.
I read this article today in Casino Player magazine and think it could shed some light on how Video Poker being dealt from a server actually works. It clearly explains the differences between Class 111 and Class 11 Video Poker machines.
I’d be willing to bet this is exactly how online Video Poker (and all other table games) actually works. Since there is no way to confirm how online poker (or any other table game) actually works one way or the other (except for hear say), I see no reason why not to believe it is a Class 11 program that runs off of a server.
Here is the article:
There are different types of Video poker machines and it’s a rather complex subject, but I’ll try to keep it brief. The video poker machines that you see in, say, Las Vegas or Atlantic City, are Class 111 machines, meaning the cards are randomly selected by a random number generator (RNG) from a 52-card deck. Once the initial five-card hand is dealt, you can hold whatever cards you want, and then the RNG will deal replacement cards from the remaining 47 cards (i.e., from cards that you did not hold).
Because the cards are randomly dealt, you can calculate with great accuracy the odds of getting a royal flush, straight flush, or five–of-a-kind in the case of Joker Poker. In addition, your playing decision (i.e., which cards you hold) does affect the final outcome of the hand. On the Class 111 machines, you can determine the return of the machine by looking at the pay schedule. For example, a 9/6 jacks-or-better game will have a 99.5% return (assuming you play your hands perfectly).
The video poker machines in NY racinos are Class 11 machines, meaning the results are NOT determined by random selection of cards from a 52-deck. The video poker (and slot) machines in NY are actually video lottery terminals (VLT’s). They work on the same basis as an instant lottery scratch-off ticket, meaning the terminal receives the next ticket from the lottery central computer and displays the predetermined outcome on the VLT. Therefore, there is no skill involved in VLT’s. All VLT’s in NY racinos must return a specific percentage (it used to be 92% but I’m not sure what it is now).
Therefore, even though players think they are playing a high return 9/6 Jacks-or-better machine (or in your case a Joker Poker machine), the pay schedules you see on VLT can not be used to determine the return on the machine. We can calculate what the odds are of getting five-of-a-kind on a Class 111 VP machine but we have no idea what it is for a Class 11 VLT machine.