Online Slotting is well and truly over in the UK…

[slot_zombie]

Is that true these days?

No, I just wrote a pack of lies, and I do apologise. I defer to your anecdotal experience dating back 7 years.

 

[geordiecolin]

No, I just wrote a pack of lies, and I do apologise. I defer to your anecdotal experience dating back 7 years.

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I have other anecdotal evidence to provide you from very different life experiences if your prepared for me to be a few days late for halloween stories?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

So yes, Autospin removal isn't a deal-breaker, nor is the removal of minor win sounds. But I've yet to see their reasoning for removing them.....and it's that lack of transparency that leaves players puzzled.

On the autoplay topic I actually read all of the material that the UKGC put out about it attempting to justify their decision (spoiler alert, it's not very good), I did a video summarising it all here.

 

[dunover]

I hope you don't want me to do another terrible Karaoke video...




Might as well take up another hobby, now that Greed and the UKGC have taken all the fun out of playing online - at least, as UK regulated casinos...

KK

How much will you accept NOT to make another one? ?

 

[Supababe]

The UK government didn’t have the balls to ban online casinos outright as they knew this would cause uproar.

This is their sly and underhanded way to stamp out online gambling using a 2 pronged approach:

1. make it impossible for operators to function in the UK profitable and above board. Slap them with fines for things beyond their control several years ago.

2. make the player experience so dull and dreary that only the most hardened addicts will actually find any sort of enjoyment from it.

So FU UKGC for such indoctrination of my rights of freedom to make my own mind up.
I know you spend time on this forum, along with other gambling sites. What will it be next for you? 2p coin drops at the seaside?

 

[DreamRJ]

What will it be next for you? 2p coin drops at the seaside?

I thought they already replaced them with tickets instead? So when the coins drop it gives you tickets instead of coins back lol

 

[geordiecolin]

On the autoplay topic I actually read all of the material that the UKGC put out about it attempting to justify their decision (spoiler alert, it's not very good), I did a video summarising it all here.

Just bookmarked this Chops mate

 

[geordiecolin]

The UK government didn’t have the balls to ban online casinos outright as they knew this would cause uproar.

This is their sly and underhanded way to stamp out online gambling using a 2 pronged approach:

1. make it impossible for operators to function in the UK profitable and above board. Slap them with fines for things beyond their control several years ago.

2. make the player experience so dull and dreary that only the most hardened addicts will actually find any sort of enjoyment from it.

So FU UKGC for such indoctrination of my rights of freedom to make my own mind up.
I know you spend time on this forum, along with other gambling sites. What will it be next for you? 2p coin drops at the seaside?

Bloody drama queen making things far simpler than they want it to be

 

[bowki]

 

[Guntis]

It might sound odd but just 10 min ago i was playing some slots from MG partner studios on Betfred on the auto spin. It was lovely TBH -- put 100 spins with a £50 loss limit and could do my other things till i hear the bonus comes in. But UKGC will certainly suck their own nuts as currently out there are crypto casinos opening up with no licences at all, they're going to accept players from almost any country on the planet, payout within 30 min and their slots will run at the highest RTPs possible, which is an icing on this cake. Give another 4-6 months and you'll see massive changes.

 

[geordiecolin]

It might sound odd but just 10 min ago i was playing some slots from MG partner studios on Betfred on the auto spin. It was lovely TBH -- put 100 spins with a £50 loss limit and could do my other things till i hear the bonus comes in. But UKGC will certainly suck their own nuts as currently out there are crypto casinos opening up with no licences at all, they're going to accept players from almost any country on the planet, payout within 30 min and their slots will run at the highest RTPs possible, which is an icing on this cake. Give another 4-6 months and you'll see massive changes.

Enjoy your reality for as long as it lasts mate. Believe me or not it will all come to a stop.
I am in CM as long as I am wanted so I am happy to be proven wrong.

 

[goatwack]

Enjoy your reality for as long as it lasts mate. Believe me or not it will all come to a stop.
I am in CM as long as I am wanted so I am happy to be proven wrong.

My partner says things like that. I ask her how long I have to wait to prove it, because there's never a definitive time limit to these theories!

Five years? Ten years? Soon?

Then I get bored and make myself a cuppa, content in my victory

 

[DreamRJ]

Well to be honest the only reason why I am scared to ever use crypto is because it is just far to volatile and far too risky. Say you buy some bits to deposit in a casino, it is valued at X amount at point of deposit then once you send that to a casino to play with it and if your lucky or just withdraw around the same amount back, it could then basically get returned at a much lesser amount or in some cases you could end up getting back nothing because the value dropped in the few hours you was playing at a casino to when you then got it sent back to your crypto wallet.

If someone could actually make a step by step guide or video that shows you how to use and make a crypto account and be able to use paypal with it too and show step by step for UK people then please can someone do it or link me to a tutorial video for it please?

I might then just decide to use it one day but only if I know that I can hold funds in my bitcoin account that will not decrease in value. If I can not keep funds in the crypto account without that risk of loss then I will never use it. So is there even a crypto account where you can keep the crypto value the same as when you bought it and not have it on the exchange?

Thanks in advance

EDIT: Well turns out you can store it but it will always follow the market rate anyway regardless if you store it. I was dumb when I said some of the above lol

 

[geordiecolin]

My partner says things like that. I ask her how long I have to wait to prove it, because there's never a definitive time limit to these theories!

Five years? Ten years? Soon?

Then I get bored and make myself a cuppa, content in my victory

2 years max unless Trump runs with the endorsement of Klaus Schwab

 

[slot_zombie]

Well to be honest the only reason why I am scared to ever use crypto is because it is just far to volatile and far too risky. Say you buy some bits to deposit in a casino, it is valued at X amount at point of deposit then once you send that to a casino to play with it and if your lucky or just withdraw around the same amount back, it could then basically get returned at a much lesser amount or in some cases you could end up getting back nothing because the value dropped in the few hours you was playing at a casino to when you then got it sent back to your crypto wallet.

If someone could actually make a step by step guide or video that shows you how to use and make a crypto account and be able to use paypal with it too and show step by step for UK people then please can someone do it or link me to a tutorial video for it please?

I might then just decide to use it one day but only if I know that I can hold funds in my bitcoin account that will not decrease in value. If I can not keep funds in the crypto account without that risk of loss then I will never use it. So is there even a crypto account where you can keep the crypto value the same as when you bought it and not have it on the exchange?

Thanks in advance

EDIT: Well turns out you can store it but it will always follow the market rate anyway regardless if you store it. I was dumb when I said some of the above lol

Just use USDT then, which never fluctuates in value, being pegged to the dollar. You are overthinking all this, large fluctuations are comparatively rare and can be beneficial as well as detrimental. If you are going to agonize over every detail and potential pitfall then definitely stay in the UK for your entertainment as it's supposed to be fun ?

 

[slot_zombie]

There are crypto casinos opening up with no licences at all, they're going to accept players from almost any country on the planet, payout within 30 min and their slots will run at the highest RTPs possible

That's incredible news. We had no idea

 

[goatwack]

Seems like Crypto casinos are here to stay then. Are we to assume they're all shady and non- paying?

And anyway, as we've only two years left to live I may as well consider it. Not like the UKGC will get any better in the New World Order, not with Klaus Shwab setting RTP

 

[KasinoKing]

And why which casinos are actually allowing UK people to sign up with a UK address?

Because the majority of casinos that do not have a UKGC license Geo Restrict the website. So you just get a message saying this casinos is blocked in your location etc etc

So please do elaborate?

I have been playing at "unlicenced" offshore casinos for nearly 2 decades - never had any problems with any of them.
They accept UK players and I am now recommending them to other UK players via my website.
Some people may think this is "dodgy" behaviour - but I have worked with these guys for years, and met up with them at numerous conferences - I wouldn't list them if I thought they weren't OK.
Of course, they don't have the same games as EU casinos - but there's no bullshit hoops to jump through either!

KK

 

[DreamRJ]

I have been playing at "unlicenced" offshore casinos for nearly 2 decades - never had any problems with any of them.
They accept UK players and I am now recommending them to other UK players via my website.
Some people may think this is "dodgy" behaviour - but I have worked with these guys for years, and met up with them at numerous conferences - I wouldn't list them if I thought they weren't OK.
Of course, they don't have the same games as EU casinos - but there's no bullshit hoops to jump through either!

KK

But how do u deposit and withdraw with them. Neteller and Skrill will be blocked to use if you try, like they are blocked for 3dice casino. So you will only be able to either use crypto or other methods?

 

[goatwack]

/ clicks Kasinoking's link

What the -

....

"Egyptian Builders Get It Done III"

 

[KasinoKing]

But how do u deposit and withdraw with them. Neteller and Skrill will be blocked to use if you try, like they are blocked for 3dice casino. So you will only be able to either use crypto or other methods?

Yes - cryptos and credit cards.
Best way is Bitcoins. I didn't want anything to do with Bitcoins when I was first forced to start using them - but now I love them, as I have made crazy money from them and various other crypto-currencies
But that's another story...

KK

 

[DreamRJ]

Yes - cryptos and credit cards.
Best way is Bitcoins. I didn't want anything to do with Bitcoins when I was first forced to start using them - but now I love them, as I have made crazy money from them and various other crypto-currencies
But that's another story...

KK

Ok lucky you

But how can you use credit cards either. They too are BLOCKED for online gambling?

 

[KasinoKing]

Ok lucky you

But how can you use credit cards either. They too are BLOCKED for online gambling?

Yeah you might be right - I haven't used a CC to deposit at these places for years - I always use Btc.
I think Debit Cards might be OK though...?
I will have to check up on that.

KK

 

[DreamRJ]

Yeah you might be right - I haven't used a CC to deposit at these places for years - I always use Btc.
I think Debit Cards might be OK though...?
I will have to check up on that.

KK

No, all credit card or debit card deposits and withdrawals are blocked for all UK unlicensed casinos. Unless the casino uses shady companies that then show it as a different thing on your bank statement like, a Purchase of hoovers or something or food. They mask the payments that is the only way some casinos allow some to use those methods. But the majority do not and they just block them when you try to. That is not the casino end. Rather that is linked to your IP address and your card details when you make the transaction to a unlicensed casino.

Only places you can use Debit cards is at licensed UKGC casinos......

That is the same as Neteller and Skrill too. They block the same way based on your account details and your IP address. So even if you used your neteller or skrill account with a VPN to try and circumvent the blocks it will still fail cos it will be flagged by the system you are using a VPN to mask your location but your skrill or neteller is still registered with a UK based address. So again the only casinos you can use Neteller and Skrill in are UKGC licensed casinos........

So then the only other ways you would even be able to use a neteller or skrill would be using very shady and fraudulent methods I believe like asking someone you might know or a family member who lives in a different country with different laws if you can use their accounts. As I said earlier. But again this is probably classed as fraud so I would prohibit it and no one should even ever try to even do this. Do you really wanna end up risking going to jail if caught? Then on top of that you risk never getting paid by playing at such dodgy places in the first place.

 

[Deeplay]

It might sound odd but just 10 min ago i was playing some slots from MG partner studios on Betfred on the auto spin. It was lovely TBH -- put 100 spins with a £50 loss limit and could do my other things till i hear the bonus comes in. But UKGC will certainly suck their own nuts as currently out there are crypto casinos opening up with no licences at all, they're going to accept players from almost any country on the planet, payout within 30 min and their slots will run at the highest RTPs possible, which is an icing on this cake. Give another 4-6 months and you'll see massive changes.

Agree and my own experience with offshore "Not regulated" casinos earlier this year was a positive experience - cant say it was not. Crypto more expensive to D & W - but sometimes I sat on the currency and it moved upwards and ended up making profit on profit albeit small one but covered fees.

Im not recommending this as such - but love them or hate them - certain so called "clip joints" are giving an experience which is now light years ahead of the UK. Many will move to offshore in the coming months and year. As said in another thread its not without risk - you have zero back up if things go wrong - and god help ye if you hit a whopper as they could just refuse to pay and nothing you could do about it. But tracking certain threads of reddit etc you can get an upto date feel of whats good and whats not. But yeah it was good for while it lasted no complaints at all.

 

[Guntis]

That's incredible news. We had no idea

Yes, it is! And seems like their thing to stand out is going to be providing the slots with the highest RTP. I think this is a unique approach because at the moment everyone's out there is looking forward to setting them at the shittest % possible. Now you must deposit £500 to make your evening last as it used with a £50 deposit a few years back. It basically seems like we have to pay to be able to play in a casino without worrying about any winnings. This casino I mentioned is in the development stage as i can see they're connecting more game providers and making the rest of things fully functioning.

Here is a set of providers, which i guess is the easiest to connect:

I personally never played on a crypto casino because I simply do not need it. For me is ok to deposit some 500 in Betfred, enrich Freddy and then go to sleep like a real loser after playing some games that I've never seen before, lol. Had a phone call recently from one of them whose English was 10 times worse than mine, and he asked me if I'm OK with gambling. In a nutshell, i said, no worry about me, I'm fine and he unlocked my acc., lol.

 

[goatwack]

You can almost imagine the trailer

"In a World, where one man faced software providers no one's heard of"

Trust Evolution to stand out like a giant - it's almost as if their brand is synonymous with cup 'o' cocoa clipjoints

....but that's for another thread

 

[slot_zombie]

Wrong on many levels. A line up of 2nd and 3rd tier providers who will sign up anyone with a website. Plus Evolution. Quality wise, we are only one step up from Rival and RTG.

Not sure why the excitement about max RTP, either. I could go and play on any number of Crypto casinos at Max RTP right now.

 

[Guntis]

Agree and my own experience with offshore "Not regulated" casinos earlier this year was a positive experience - cant say it was not. Crypto more expensive to D & W - but sometimes I sat on the currency and it moved upwards and ended up making profit on profit albeit small one but covered fees.

Im not recommending this as such - but love them or hate them - certain so called "clip joints" are giving an experience which is now light years ahead of the UK. Many will move to offshore in the coming months and year. As said in another thread its not without risk - you have zero back up if things go wrong - and god help ye if you hit a whopper as they could just refuse to pay and nothing you could do about it. But tracking certain threads of reddit etc you can get an upto date feel of whats good and whats not. But yeah it was good for while it lasted no complaints at all.

Yeah, there are a lot of clip joints and the main problem with these is the fact that they are run by inexperienced people that don't understand fully their customer needs, and if a problem arises they're unable to sort it out. And this is how they turn into rogue. But, there are good casinos too with modernly built sites and a lot of games, no KYC and fast payouts -- exactly what the online player needs. However, for the majority of players cryptocurrency is still something wild and mysterious. But, i guess soon this sensation will disappear. Years ago people were thinking WTF an e-wallet is and never trusted to use one, now it's just a part of everyone's life. The same will be with crypto wallets.

 

[Guntis]

Not sure why the excitement about max RTP, either. I could go and play on any number of Crypto casinos at Max RTP right now.

Never checked TBH and thought they all run at the lowest as no one tells them what to do.

 

[slot_zombie]

Never checked TBH and thought they all run at the lowest as no one tells them what to do.

No, all the main ones are at max otherwise what would be the point. One of the main reasons for heading over there is to escape lowered RTPs.

 

[tazmart]

It seems to me that when we talk about rogue casinos we can now include UK casinos in that category, because I've completely lost all trust in the UK market.
I would go one step further than just blaming lower RTPs, because there are other changes being made to the games by the crooks, sorry, I meant to say developers, that are far more insidious. Used to play a lot of Book of Oz, then stopped because it started playing worse, but have just recently gone back to have a look again. Now, whereas I used to get a reasonably regular £7.50 (at 10p a spin) 5 major symbol win, and the odd £50 5 wizard win, they have completely disappeared, no matter how long you play for. Zip, zilch, nada, it doesn't happen anymore.
The same thing has happened at another of my previously stable games, Dragon Shard. Literally overnight it completely changed the way it played, with Epic and Legendary wins seemingly disappearing from the game, and don't even get me started on the dramatic increase in dead spins on all games I play.
It's almost reached the stage where I'm grateful to get my stake back on a spin!
I now rate casino operators, game developers and even the UKGC, in the same bracket as online scammers. I include the UKGC on there because at best they are responsible for all of this rubbish, at worst they're in on the entire scam, because their job is to protect us from crooks, not allow them to openly and blatantly rip us off on a daily basis. This industry simply can't be regulated anymore, otherwise how could they get away with it.
RIP UK online casinos, it was nice knowing you.

 

[Guntis]

I bet crypto casino owners skim through such CM threads and write down all negative and positive into their note pads, lol.
But my guess regarding UKGC is that they want to get rid of all smaller casino operators and leave only high street bookie brands for all online gambling needs. But i might be wrong, of course.