Online casinos and Online bingo

[ningning88]

Hi,

I am new here and also in online gambling. I used to just play bingo until I tried online casinos and slots recently and never looked back. My question is being from online bingo how can the people there be so nicesy nice with each other even though they are losing most of the time. Don't they realize that there is no way that they can ever win big in online bingo. That is probably why they offer such a huge bonus. Up to 500% and for everyone not just first timers. If you calculate the amount of money you bet as oppose to the ones you win if ever, you are always losing and yet here they are lots of them just having fun. I was there to try and win not to just say MGF or BRB or MAWOY etc.... I dont know if I am missing what they are enjoying about. Thats all.

 

[bigjohn]

Hi,

I am new here and also in online gambling. I used to just play bingo until I tried online casinos and slots recently and never looked back. My question is being from online bingo how can the people there be so nicesy nice with each other even though they are losing most of the time. Don't they realize that there is no way that they can ever win big in online bingo. That is probably why they offer such a huge bonus. Up to 500% and for everyone not just first timers. If you calculate the amount of money you bet as oppose to the ones you win if ever, you are always losing and yet here they are lots of them just having fun. I was there to try and win not to just say MGF or BRB or MAWOY etc.... I dont know if I am missing what they are enjoying about. Thats all.

I never got it either.

I think bingo is more of a social game kinda like when you get together with a few friends and play cards for dimes and quarters. I don't think it translates that well to the computer because I'm not big on cyber chatting but I do enjoy an occasional outing to the local bingo hall where some of the house profits go to a worthy cause like Little League or Church programs. I don't win there either but it's a nice night out.

 

[rockycatt]

i think there should be winners from what the bingo rooms advertise but i think you are correct [no one wins ] i cant ever remember a ss of online bingo being displayed here in the winners thread

ive asked for direction to a honest bingo site here over the years but no one here with any credientials coud direct me to a site to expect wins [ like in casino's]

my guesssss is riggggged

 

[randomiam]

bingo site

theres only one ive ever really played at called rodgers bingo its a microgaming one had many decent wins a fair few cash outs no same day pay but they never once seemed dodgy and allways paid in a decent time

 

[SubzeroWins]

I doubt its rigged, why take the chance if bingo is already such a profitable game for the casino's. My guess is people play cause they like the "social" aspect of it. (quotemarks cause im not sure if i would describe it as social behavior)

 

[dunover]

STAY AWAY FROM THE BINGO!

The nutjobs and halfwits will chuck 'l*cky d*st' on the chat frequently along with their template scripted silly little keyboard character pictures. Most sites are so crap that it is even possible to win the 1-line, 2-lines and full house and get LESS than your outlay if there aren't enough players. The house rake is massive compared to any other games. There is one site where you can even see the halfwits in their homes on camera as their blanched spotty faces whoop with delight as they wildly celebrate a £2.74 win, crediting no doubt the chat-host's 'l*cky d*st'.

It's an embarrassing waste of money and is mainly played by people on benefits/low incomes or with less than average intelligence or both. A sort of online version of 'Thursday night up a t' Legion'.

If you want a chance of a big win play a progressive slot.

 

[Perc]

I've played bingo at Bet365 a few times. If you play 90-ball and spend £10 on a round you can win £100 or more depending on the number of players, and I have actually won, more than once.

Yeah the chat is lame, but you can play slots over the chat window while the numbers are called. It's a good place to play bingo if you want to play it.

 

[Tirilej]

It's an embarrassing waste of money and is mainly played by people on benefits/low incomes or with less than average intelligence or both. A sort of online version of 'Thursday night up a t' Legion'.

What an intelligent comment there dunover. Like it takes much of that when playing slotgames at a casino

I thought you were a smart guy who didn't need to look down at other people, but I suppose I was wrong.

 

[rockycatt]

is there a single SS on the site of a +200$win even 'd love to find a honest bingo site that paid out with out silly terms to wrangle with [i would love it ] were are they ??

PS and i was told by a online poker friend from England that bingo on the street in brick and mortor halls pay out huge amounts [life changing amounts ] on regular basis ??[is this true ]] comment please

 

[maphesto]

It's an embarrassing waste of money and is mainly played by people on benefits/low incomes or with less than average intelligence or both. A sort of online version of 'Thursday night up a t' Legion'.

Like it takes much of that when playing slotgames at a casino

When I began my online gambling many years ago it was on horses and sports. Actually almost the same words dunover used about bingo, I used about slots when i first heard of it. To me, a slot machine was something you put coins in, with a beer in your hand, and pulled to make the wheels spin on three "bar" symbols. To sit in your home and watch some stupid symbols spin around were for total nut jobs...Maybe I was right, then I am a nut job.

 

[Tirilej]

When I began my online gambling many years ago it was on horses and sports. Actually almost the same words dunover used about bingo, I used about slots when i first heard of it. To me, a slot machine was something you put coins in, with a beer in your hand, and pulled to make the wheels spin on three "bar" symbols. To sit in your home and watch some stupid symbols spin around were for total nut jobs...Maybe I was right, then I am a nut job.

Yes you are, in some peoples eyes

There is a system in everything.
People who play slotmachines at bars and bingo players are consider the lowest.
After maybe online slot players.

Then we have betting and horse race players. Why? They are believing there is some skill in their way of playing.

Highest are of course the card player. They are smart people and there is were the real money is.
Ask a card player what he think of someone who playes slotgames online. That's really stupid people

I don't agree that it have anything with income low or high, or intelligence or not if you like playing different games.
It's only about how you look at people.

 

[dunover]

What an intelligent comment there dunover. Like it takes much of that when playing slotgames at a casino

I thought you were a smart guy who didn't need to look down at other people, but I suppose I was wrong.

If you were British you'd understand more why I made the comment.

Mathematically you have far better odds on a slot than bingo, which is simply an online 'lottery' with the same terrible RTP. So if you play online bingo, I stand by what I said - you are either ignorant of the bad odds, or if you are aware of the bad odds then you play for the 'social' aspect of it which makes you very likely to be a member of the lower echelons of society.

 

[Tirilej]

If you were British you'd understand more why I made the comment.

Mathematically you have far better odds on a slot than bingo, which is simply an online 'lottery' with the same terrible RTP. So if you play online bingo, I stand by what I said - you are either ignorant of the bad odds, or if you are aware of the bad odds then you play for the 'social' aspect of it which makes you very likely to be a member of the lower echelons of society.

I still don't agree and I doubt that it has anything to do which country I'm from.

For me it actually stink when I hear someone talking about lower echelons of society like they were not worth as much as anyone else.
I've played bingo too, both for real and online. You have absolutely no idea what kind of education I have, if I have some kind of intellectual status, if I'm intelligent, have a high or low income....or if I played to win or for the social aspect.
You don't know as much as you think you do, and I hate being judged.

 

[dionysus]

Considering CM has accredited bingo sites which effectively means they endorse them, and have one of the most active reps here from Butler's Bingo, are they of the 'lower echelon' as well?
Or is that only your fellow members who play there?

 

[dunover]

Considering CM has accredited bingo sites which effectively means they endorse them, and have one of the most active reps here from Butler's Bingo, are they of the 'lower echelon' as well?
Or is that only your fellow members who play there?

Christ, aren't we all touchy today? Accredited simply means they are fair, pay out promptly, have a rep etc. It is not an endorsement of the odds and whether they are good games or not, just that they are straight games. Go to a slots site like Virgin or PP and they heavily promote and endorse the bingo aspect of their business; indeed the only bonuses you get there are usually bingo-related. It is obvious why. The ignorant are led with 200% or more SUBS with only 3x WR for bingo. Sound good? No, it is massively EV-- almost like a slot bonus of 125x WR on 95% RTP games. I get the impression of exaggerated umbrage here. I will ignore your loaded rhetoric about the 'Butler's rep' as I referred to many players, not those employed to take their cash.

If you two were raised in the UK you'd know what I was getting at as bingo here tends to attract mainly (the word you seem to have ignored in my first post) a certain type of person.

And considering there are hundreds of bingo sites out there, ask yourselves why only one or two are accredited here??

 

[dionysus]

Well, as hard as it is to imagine, the UK isn't the world.
Touchy? Generally so when I see people being unfathomably condescending to other people, especially CM members. to the point of blatant rudeness.

How is playing bingo any different than going to the movies, buying video games or paying to play facebook games? Believe it or not, some people actually find it FUN.

Playing bingo in no way equates to people being lower class, or less intelligent. Just because you may have walked into 'some' bingo parlours, you certainly haven't been to them all. I've seen bejewelled women, members of society considered 'high-standing', Hell, my mother's bestie is well read, bright and LOADED, all going to bingo She goes because she likes it. Lots of people do. I'd think the sheer amount of sites testifies to that.

Saying 'well, look how few parlours are accredited' means squat. Not everyone out there seeks accreditation. And there are thousands of online casinos, not all of which seek or are approved for accreditation. CM has a fraction of the slots sites so I fail to see the correlation.

Add to that, you've zero clue of the social standing, IQ or bankroll of the online players behind their monitors and I doubt bingo sites are giving you that information.

 

[dunover]

is there a single SS on the site of a +200$win even 'd love to find a honest bingo site that paid out with out silly terms to wrangle with [i would love it ] were are they ??

PS and i was told by a online poker friend from England that bingo on the street in brick and mortor halls pay out huge amounts [life changing amounts ] on regular basis ??[is this true ]] comment please

Very few bingo sites are accredited. Very few offer wins in excess of a DoA major screenshot anyway. The 'big' wins on online sites are usually jackpots which accumulate paid for out of player stakes like JPP slots. They usually require a 'full-house' in say 30 or 35 calls or less, and the odds of that are hundreds of thousands to one or even millions.
I suppose you don't get screenshots as bingo is seldom interesting to slot players, due to bad odds and slow results compared to a slot spin, plus we slot players are used to 95%+ RTP on games.
There are national B+M bingo halls like Mecca which have a 'national' jackpot whereby it rises for every ticket bought and is up on a screen in the hall in LED's counting up like the jackpots on US-style slots do, and is won when any player in any hall calls a house in 28 numbers or less. This often gets into the hundreds of thousands of pounds. Some have a fixed prize of say 1m if you get a house in say a mere 21 numbers, and the odds are massive and exponentially increase with each less number of balls required.

 

[dunover]

Well, as hard as it is to imagine, the UK isn't the world.

Indeed, and you are lucky, trust me on that.

Touchy? Generally so when I see people being unfathomably condescending to other people, especially CM members. to the point of blatant rudeness.

That is misleading, and you know it. Please don't try to incite others whom are, and were not the subject of my first post.

How is playing bingo any different than going to the movies, buying video games or paying to play facebook games? Believe it or not, some people actually find it FUN.

You really need me to tell you? Bingo is gambling, the entertainments you mention are not.

Playing bingo in no way equates to people being lower class, or less intelligent. Just because you may have walked into 'some' bingo parlours, you certainly haven't been to them all. I've seen bejewelled women, members of society considered 'high-standing', Hell, my mother's bestie is well read, bright and LOADED, all going to bingo She goes because she likes it. Lots of people do. I'd think the sheer amount of sites testifies to that.

Yeah, and I've seen a few people of 90 who have smoked 40 fags and drunk a bottle of wine every day for 60 years. But I have seen hundreds who haven't. Again your are leading here, because I referred to online bingo/chat in my 'offending' post whereas that paragraph above refers to B&M.

Saying 'well, look how few parlours are accredited' means squat. Not everyone out there seeks accreditation. And there are thousands of online casinos, not all of which seek or are approved for accreditation. CM has a fraction of the slots sites so I fail to see the correlation.

Really? I'd never have guessed. But even you must admit that the ratio of bingo to slots sites in the accredited list is tiny, compared to those not accredited.

Add to that, you've zero clue of the social standing, IQ or bankroll of the online players behind their monitors and I doubt bingo sites are giving you that information.

Ah, but you see I have! If you read my first post it clearly states that some have players on webcams. With this you can see and hear them, as well as where they live and along with the appalling spelling and grammar evident in their chat.

I agree that my posts may be a bit UK-centric, but there will be people who know exactly what I am referring to, without offence and in a subjective sense.

 

[dionysus]

I agree that my posts may be a bit UK-centric, but there will be people who know exactly what I am referring to, without offence and in a subjective sense.

Then perhaps you should say 'here in the UK and amongst my mates' since your opinions do not reflect the world over...theyre rather misleading

I'm not inciting anything. I'm stating my view. As did you in your blanket statement. You may say 'mainly', but since these sites nor most halls aren't 'mainly' in the UK, your argument doesnt wash.

Yes, bingo is gambling. And? Some people still play for fun. Not everyone is aiming for 1000x stake. They like the play value, hence why bonuses are so popular....with the chance even when small, to win.

And again, 'some' webcams is not the world over.
And strangely, not everyone chats. Much like every gambler doesnt post in cm

 

[dionysus]

Anyway, this could go forever. We said our piece. Back on topic for me.

 

[zreb]

I tried playing bingo a few times when offered a bonus. The house edge felt almost extortionately high, but it's possible I was just somewhat unlucky.

Still, it generally felt like there was a lack of transparency in the payouts - no one seemed to know, or care, what the house cut/RTP was. Personally, I'd rather avoid games where for all I know, the payout could be anywhere between 50 and 85% of what players put in. Perhaps some sites out there are more forthright with the numbers, as I only tried a few.

Not my choice of game, but if others have fun with it, certainly nothing wrong with paying a bit for the entertainment.

 

[Blathaon]

While i think Dunover was a bit harsh, there are definitely some truth to what he is saying.

There have been numerous studies on gambling that show that people with lower income and lower education are more likely to be problem gamblers.


- The typical problem gambler is a young male with low education and either no job or a part time job.

- It is approx. twice as many men as women who gamble online

- Amongst problem gamblers the ratio is 80/20 male/female.

- People who are unemployed or on benefits are overrepresented amongst problem gamblers

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(this one is in Norwegian sorry) I'm sure you can use an online translator to get the gist of it. It's important to note that this study only consists of gambling habits in Norway, so there might be differences in other countries. I would still think that the general findings would apply for most populations.


Here is from an Australian study.

- For example, only a small proportion (0.7%) of young women aged 18-24, with a
bachelor degree or higher, who had married (but never been divorced) reported
symptoms of problem gambling.

- In contrast, 18.1% of young men aged 25-44, with a year 12 or lower qualification
and who had never married reported symptoms of problem gambling.

- The ten highest-risk subgroups in the community (accounting for 14% of the adult
population) all contained men with year 12 (or a lower qualification), a trade
certificate or diploma, who had either never married or had a history of divorce.

Link to study report: Old / Expired Link

Link to summary of findings: Old / Expired Link

An interesting talk about the psychology of gambling:

 

[maxd]

And considering there are hundreds of bingo sites out there, ask yourselves why only one or two are accredited here??

As it happens that has nothing to do with the clientele and everything to do with often monumentally shabby way that most bingo sites that we've encountered are run.

Your statements are insensitive, at best. If I said those things about slots or VP players and tried to excuse it by saying "if you grew up where I grew up" how warmly received do you imagine that would be? The point is that (a) what happens on your patch may not have much of anything to do with what goes on elsewhere and (b) don't shit where you eat: you've got your gaming habits too and these forums DO NOT need a culture of dissing each other's recreational activities.

 

[DepositSpinLose]

whoooo boy its getting old......every thread, yup every thread is turned into a shyt flinging match by the same 5 or so members. every damn time. getting old you guys.

 

[Tirilej]

While i think Dunover was a bit harsh, there are definitely some truth to what he is saying.

There have been numerous studies on gambling that show that people with lower income and lower education are more likely to be problem gamblers.

You are absolutely correct when it comes to problem gamblers.
Why I reacted was because it was bingo players that was pointed out, and not only those who are problem gamblers.
We also knows that it's more women than men that plays bingo and I will always defend us

Honestly I don't like bingo much but if I play it's Swedish bingo and it's different.

@depositspinlose
I do hope we never stop discussing things in here. That's what makes this place interesting.

 

[dunover]

I tried playing bingo a few times when offered a bonus. The house edge felt almost extortionately high, but it's possible I was just somewhat unlucky.

Still, it generally felt like there was a lack of transparency in the payouts - no one seemed to know, or care, what the house cut/RTP was. Personally, I'd rather avoid games where for all I know, the payout could be anywhere between 50 and 85% of what players put in. Perhaps some sites out there are more forthright with the numbers, as I only tried a few.

Not my choice of game, but if others have fun with it, certainly nothing wrong with paying a bit for the entertainment.

Yes, that is what I find most worrying. The result of this is that less 'savvy' players may be drawn in and bitten. I say this because on here we are instantly testing a new game, pulling it to pieces, asking the TRTP, free-playing it to death to seek out any habits it has etc. On the bingo-type games this is simply not possible. One reason for less TRTP on bingo would be the slower turnover for the site; slot playing means rapid games up to 20 a minute whereas to spend the same on bingo would usually take a lot longer. We also know how much slot games keep back for a pooled jackpot (as a % of the TRTP) whereas on bingo we don't usually.
I accept my first post on this thread was a blatant generalization that may not apply elsewhere, just based on what I have observed personally. It was not directed at any specific posters - those whom disagreed made themselves known afterwards.

 

[miso]

is there a single SS on the site of a +200$win even 'd love to find a honest bingo site that paid out with out silly terms to wrangle with [i would love it ] were are they ??

PS and i was told by a online poker friend from England that bingo on the street in brick and mortor halls pay out huge amounts [life changing amounts ] on regular basis ??[is this true ]] comment please

Some of wife`s friends play every friday, we never went, but I guess it must be a good night out.
The place is actually packed, so it is not uncommon for one of them to walk in with €50 and walk out
with 2k (that`s the most I`ve heard about).

It all depends on the number of players in the room. Buy one card in a room of 200 and you can win a lot.
But for me, it`s like a spin that lagged and takes 5 minutes to finish