Online Blackjack - qs

[Casino2014man]

Hi All

I am a bit addicted to online blackjack.

Namely, the computerised ones.

I lose every time.

EG - Just deposited £25 at betat. Lost 10 hands in a row, I get 21, they do too etc. I get 20 they get 21 from a 2.

I get two 10s, they have a 6.

I split, 20 and 20 they get 21. FML

This happens to me all the time, i do not know why I play..

Is this format totally fixed? Can anyone recommend another way..

 

[gagamel]

BJ online is a streaky thing. I made some years ago 4500 with a 200 deposit but I was very lucky. Make sure that your bet is not more than 1/100 your deposit and raise your bet if you have a lucky streak.

That`s all I can tell you. If you want a long playtime play live dealers

 

[secret2]

You split 10's? and you had twenty? Two 10's and you split? Is this a multiplayer table or just you and a dealer?

 

[Casino2014man]

Just me and dealer. 20 and they had 6..

 

[secret2]

Just me and dealer. 20 and they had 6..

But you said you split the 10's? and they had a 6?

Sorry you split and dealer got 21?

 

[Casino2014man]

But you said you split the 10's? and they had a 6?

Yep

Split the tens

ended with 20 20

they got 21 on that hand

 

[secret2]

Yep

Split the tens

ended with 20 20

they got 21 on that hand

So you did split two tens (20) ? why would you do that? Especially a one on one?

 

[Casino2014man]

So you did split two tens (20) ? why would you do that? Especially a one on one?

Not sure really..

Always thought if they have a six and I have two tens then I will likely win twice!

Is that wrong?

 

[secret2]

Not sure really..

Always thought if they have a six and I have two tens then I will likely win twice!

Is that wrong?

Well. as a rule. I wouldn't be the anchor in a multiplayer game as you may get smacked..but that is just me...or even not an anchor.

As a rule do not split 10's.

 

[Casino2014man]

Well. as a rule. I wouldn't be the anchor in a multiplayer game as you may get smacked..but that is just me...or even not an anchor.

As a rule do not split 10's.

Ok

haha I am so confused.

I have seen so many videos online where ppl always split tens on a 6 and win!

But I guess it makes sense..

Outside of that though, I am having HORRRIFIC luck

 

[secret2]

Ok

haha I am so confused.

I have seen so many videos online where ppl always split tens on a 6 and win!

But I guess it makes sense..

Outside of that though, I am having HORRRIFIC luck

A 6 sucks when the dealer shows it. If you hold two tens, hold.

It is a complex game because if you are in a multiplayer game the idea is that the 'table' against the dealer.The table has to try and play as many 'faces' to out the dealer. If all players are on the same page. then it can be a great game.
If it is just you and a dealer, it is not one I would play.

 

[Casino2014man]

A 6 sucks when the dealer shows it. If you hold two tens, hold.

It is a complex game because if you are in a multiplayer game the idea is that the 'table' against the dealer.The table has to try and play as many 'faces' to out the dealer. If all players are on the same page. then it can be a great game.
If it is just you and a dealer, it is not one I would play.

Out of interest

What would you do in this situation?

I have 12

They have 12?

If I hit I always bust.

If I stand I always lose..

 

[secret2]

Out of interest

What would you do in this situation?

I have 12

They have 12?

If I hit I always bust.

If I stand I always lose..

Ahhhhaaha That 12 sucks. It's an even steven!..If you were in a multiplayer hit but a one on one ...hit, I guess...that is a real sucky hand. I had probs with that myself. but lower your bet..lol

 

[Mozaik]

I wouldn't bother with the computerized blackjack version of Microgaming nor NetEnt. I'm sure they reach the advertised RTP over a million hands.
But 95 outta 100 times you'll fail to even double up your deposit from my experience. It just seems extremely difficult to win during a session, let alone getting ahead. The wins just frequently seem to happen when being down in a session to allow you some playtime, while throwing you a bone every now and then, although it never seems to last long.

The constant feeling of never being 'comfortable', even when you have 19, 20 vs. dealer's 4, 5 or 6 or when doubling down with 10, 11 vs. dealer's 4, 5 or 6, makes it a game I can absolutely not recommend. You're better off playing live blackjack at an online casino.

Then I haven't even mentioned the horrifying experiences I had when raising the betsize substantially. I think it's a major fail that these big software companies can't even create a card game that reflects the real land based version in an accurate way. A total jaw dropping experience most of the time.

 

[Casino2014man]

I wouldn't bother with the computerized blackjack version of Microgaming nor NetEnt. I'm sure they reach the advertised RTP over a million hands.
But 95 outta 100 times you'll fail to even double up your deposit from my experience. It just seems extremely difficult to win during a session, let alone getting ahead. The wins just frequently seem to happen when being down in a session to allow you some playtime, while throwing you a bone every now and then, although it never seems to last long.

The constant feeling of never being 'comfortable', even when you have 19, 20 vs. dealer's 4, 5 or 6 or when doubling down with 10, 11 vs. dealer's 4, 5 or 6, makes it a game I can absolutely not recommend. You're better off playing live blackjack at an online casino.

Then I haven't even mentioned the horrifying experiences I had when raising the betsize substantially. I think it's a major fail that these big software companies can't even create a card game that reflects the real land based version in an accurate way. A total jaw dropping experience most of the time.

YES

I feel the same.

I am a bit strange in that I can find the live version annoyingly slow.

But whenever I have 11, I double down and get 12. Literally every time on the netent, realistic etc.

Ok, I am done with those. Live it is.

 

[secret2]

I am so rusty...now you have got the 21 back in me! I havn't played online since AP! (Absolute Poker)..grrrrr....just a horrid group that burned in hell...rogues.

 

[petro]

@ Casino2014man find yourself a basic strategy that matches the rules for the BJ you are playing.

 

[Cleveland]

Well. as a rule. I wouldn't be the anchor in a multiplayer game as you may get smacked..but that is just me...or even not an anchor.

As a rule do not split 10's.

^ This. You wouldn't believe the amount of hostility I've seen at blackjack tables in B/Ms towards other players. I tend to stick to the general game strategy when other players are involved as I don't want to hurt another players chances of winning, but geez some players just take all the fun out of it. But on the other side I have seen players who are very nice about it, and try to help new players learn to play, and explain why they should or shouldn't play a hand whatever way.

 

[Casino2014man]

@ Casino2014man find yourself a basic strategy that matches the rules for the BJ you are playing.

I have tried so many.

Just seems impossible to ever end up up from them, ever!

I read things like 99.4% RTP

Then I lose 50 quid on 2 pound bets in 10 mins.

I think I need to move on

 

[Mozaik]

YES

I feel the same.

I am a bit strange in that I can find the live version annoyingly slow.

But whenever I have 11, I double down and get 12. Literally every time on the netent, realistic etc.

Ok, I am done with those. Live it is.

There are some great online casinos like Mr Green and Unibet for instance where the min. betsize is only 5 euros per hand at the live blackjack tables. The game might be much slower, but in my opinion much more enjoyable. There are even "London" roulette tables (not to sure about the BJ) which have UK dealers active to keep you entertained.

On the contrary to computerised blackjack, I actually do have profitable sessions every now and then. But of course losing streaks in live blackjack also happen, I remember losing 1K in like 15 losing hands in a row.

 

[Cleveland]

Out of interest

What would you do in this situation?

I have 12

They have 12?

If I hit I always bust.

If I stand I always lose..

Which version of blackjack are you playing? I've forgotten so many of them but in standard (A) (EU) I don't think this hand is possible. The highest initial face card the dealer would have would be a 1/11. Then you make your hit / stand / surrounded / double / spit, etc., decisions from there. Not sure how the dealer would have drawn to 12 while you still also have a chance to draw a card. Maybe I misunderstand, and then again it's been a while since I've heavily played different versions.

 

[Casino2014man]

There are some great online casinos like Mr Green and Unibet for instance where the min. betsize is only 5 euros per hand at the live blackjack tables. The game might be much slower, but in my opinion much more enjoyable. There are even "London" roulette tables (not to sure about the BJ) which have UK dealers active to keep you entertained.

On the contrary to computerised blackjack, I actually do have profitable sessions every now and then. But of course losing streaks in live blackjack also happen, I remember losing 1K in like 15 losing hands in a row.

Owch..

Yeah.. I had a bad day today, lost £200 via computerised between Guts, Skybet, Mr Green, Betat.

Literally lost 90% of hands.

I know you can be unlucky but I have been pretty peeved today

 

[Casino2014man]

The one I have been playing is just called

'low stakes blackjack'

Tend to play £2 per hand

 

[secret2]

Blackjack Verite. (sp?)

I bought the CD years ago, not sure if it is still a valid BJ instructor?

It tested all aspects of your BJ play at all casinos and different play games.Atlantic city, different shus, etc...

 

[Googobucs]

^ This. You wouldn't believe the amount of hostility I've seen at blackjack tables in B/Ms towards other players. I tend to stick to the general game strategy when other players are involved as I don't want to hurt another players chances of winning, but geez some players just take all the fun out of it. But on the other side I have seen players who are very nice about it, and try to help new players learn to play, and explain why they should or shouldn't play a hand whatever way.

I always try to help out folks at the table that need it and want it. If they ignore the advice then I would not complain, I would simply get up and change tables.
I usually stick to basic strategy but sometimes you get a gut feeling and do something different. I would NEVER split 10's. If someone does get mouthy and obnoxious; as they do at times, I will tell them to shut up and mind their own business. It's my money and I'll play it however I want. If you don't like it move.

Whenever I see someone split 10's I offer no advice at all. I would simply get up and move. You are destroying a PAT hand because your greedy. No logic in the world will make any sense.

 

[secret2]

I remember when I first started to play BJ, it was at AP.

I was terrible, I did not know the rules and I broke most of them...splitting tens, doubleing down and splitting tens ..it was an awful experience, as I wanted to play but did not understand that it was the table as a whole, trying to beat the dealer.

I was yelled at in chat, cursed at and boy, if I were there in real life I would have been killed for sure, I felt.

So? I learned pretty quickly about the basics of BJ just because I wanted to play the game, I liked the multiplayer platform and wanted to learn.

They (the usual players) allowed me ...very slowly..to sit back in when the saw that I had improved on the lower stake tables. lol...boy, I cried my heart out because they hated me...but just before AP shut it's doors, they recognized me as one of them. That was cool. It took a long time, though.

 

[Janek12]

The one I have been playing is just called

'low stakes blackjack'

Tend to play £2 per hand

The variance in BJ is quite high in my experience. It cannot be compared to baccarat or black/red in roulette. The reason is that if the player is not getting enough blackjacks and split/double options in the given session, the RTP may fall well below the advertised (and statistically correct and valid) 99.4 %.

For the sake of illustration: Long time ago, there was an EV+ single-deck blackjack in Boss Media casinos (I think it was blackjack with something like 100.05 % RTP). Someone created a bot and offered it for sale for this specific game. But they honestly stated that they had to play something like a million hands at 1 EUR stakes to make profit and that at one point the balance was -1600 EUR before the RTP prevailed and the balance went to positive numbers.
Casinos stopped offering that game several years ago.

 

[pmutts]

Basic Strategy

To the OP, never split 10s. Basic Strategy Pair Splitting Rules. Always splint As and 8s. Never split 4s, 5s, 10s. If you are going to play Blackjack, you should know basic strategy by memory.

The complete basic strategy is available in countless books and even on credit card sized charts for your wallet. For more info refer to my ancient thread:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...pires-to-be-a-skilled-blackjack-player.46788/

Good Luck!

 

[bigbear]

To the OP, never split 10s. Basic Strategy Pair Splitting Rules. Always splint As and 8s. Never split 4s, 5s, 10s. If you are going to play Blackjack, you should know basic strategy by memory.

The complete basic strategy is available in countless books and even on credit card sized charts for your wallet. For more info refer to my ancient thread:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...pires-to-be-a-skilled-blackjack-player.46788/

Good Luck!

Or have a look at the Wizard of Odds website.Basic strategy charts are listed for every form of blackjack including when to split and when to double.You cannot really quote a rule about splitting 4s,5s,8s and aces as it depends on whether the dealer peeks for blackjack and whether double after splitting is allowed.
I would go with the opinion that live blackjack is a far safer version than the computerised version.As has been stated you never feel comfortable with 20 even against a dealer 4,5 or 6.The live version is slower but if you master basic strategy you will feel that you have a far better chance of coming out ahead.