OK, I'm being a pissant! But hey...

kimss

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Now I'm really annoyed by the MG software, this time I'll most likely (I hope that is) I'll get a grip and really stop depositing into this cruel software!

I did some quick 2K high rolling now, and was able to have 1 "deasent" hit so I was up to 1K after depositing $550 in one of the casinoes, however they went really fast! But what happends when I get down to some $0.30 rolling, 15lines x 2 on Avalon? Oh yes, you guessed it, 9 spins and feature. Retrigger, and retrigger! Giving a whopping 150x bet in return! Don't you just love my unluck! I thought, since maby it's 12K since last withdrawal I could have a chance in getting some luck in $10 wagering so I went a little further, no luck.

One of the things that annoys me, is that, I know I'm unlucky, is having the feature on Good to Go 3 times on $7 and one time on $14 - all times only 2 scatters... Then, I also had the feature 2 times on the clone, I do not remember the name in this instant, on $18 wager - again, only two scatters giving no payday for me. That is like 6 chances devided in 3 casinoes I lost a sweet fortune in giving me atleast a chance of a deasent hit at +1.5K, however it seems I only get those fancy hit's low rolling!

So slap me, kick me, bully me for crying and pissing here in the forum! I truly hate MG - 25K in total since last withdrawal! OK, I might have big expectations, I had a "goal" of not withdrawing until I atleast had 3K. Most likely a way to high goal it seems, however I have met that goal several times doing the x times bet in low rolling.

I just can't seem to grasp the "luck" I have where I do not need it, and when I have luck in high rolling it never seems to be those great hits!

So, there you have it, my ass wopping is up for grabs! Just hope some people out there might "learn" from my mistakes!

Also, I must say! The arguments we are having with cheating and such. I do so want to believe you that nothing is wrong. That MG has 160+ games, and not 1 game with 160+ skins. And trust me, I have tried depositing to proove you right. But it's damn annoying, and way to expensive, to experience the "luck" coming on the wrong wagers.

How annoying is it, to have spun 500+ spins on $4.5 on Isis, then the final spins on $0.45 before your broke and you win $500? Or spinning +$5 all day, and relogging ans doing $0.20 spins and bump your balance to +$100?

Man - I said it - MG is truly cruel!

Happy new years by the way!
 

I<3Microgaming

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Yeah there is definately something going on with high wagers vs. low wagers and the "luck" you'll get. This pattern is very recurring, I agree. Not just at slots, but at BJ, Baccarat, and pretty much all other games.

Have you tried sticking to your favorite MG and only playing there? MGs love loyalty, maybe you'll have better "luck" (if you know what I mean ;)) at a casino you deposit and wager a lot at. And since you high roll slots you could be getting nice cashback on your wagering (I'm sure you know that already).
 

tim5ny

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Why are you betting so high Kimss? I have won $550.00 during the bonus round on Isis with a .25cent bet. You don't need to go crazy! But you have lots more money than I.. so go for it!
 

paul02085

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I wish i had the money to be able to bet that high too. Must be fun knowing if/when you do hit its gonna be a HUGE win.:eek2:
 

silkprint

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Jeepers Kimss ! Stop depositing at MG already! How many threads do you need to complain about them ?? It's not that I don't agree with alot of your points but cripes . Best thing for YOU to do it stop giving them your money then .
 

tim5ny

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Jeepers Kimss ! Stop depositing at MG already! How many threads do you need to complain about them ?? It's not that I don't agree with alot of your points but cripes . Best thing for YOU to do it stop giving them your money then .
I thought the same thing about him at first too.... but it turns out he's a nice guy who's a bit crazy and determined to hurt himself. :D
 

hippo925

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i find kimss to be very outspoken but honest, transparent, and sincere. kinda like that uncle that always embarasses you cuz he doesn't hold back, lol. :D

anyway, we all share our views and experiences in different ways. :lolup:
 

bb28

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Great commentary there SlotsWizard..........so true!

:notworthy
 

chuchu59

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Kimss,

For goodness sake dont try to prove this again with cold cash mate. My increase of bet size from $10/$20 to $50 a few days ago where I didnt manage to get a single win out of 6 $50 bets is enough evidence for me not to try these big bets:(:(. Trust me, whatever you try to do, you can never muster sufficient evidence to show that bet sizes do influence outcomes although I agree entirely with you. Your money is going down the drain.
Better off treating your friends for a couple of rounds at the nearest pub.
 

LOOKAWAY

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direction uncertain very late well ok its normaly this bad lol

Hi heres my two cent on mgs a couple off months ago i did notice that the 9 liners with a 15x3 feature ladies night spring break and so on changed the way they pay during free games as in alot lower i got truly got stung big time but i high rolled for a long time off a whole month off winning except for a 3-4 days off small losses i know it was fing great plus i hit a big 3.5k hit on 2.25 bet anyway as i played those 9 liners for everyday for along time for about 5 months or so i did notice a huge change in feature pays and now have moved on to other games. and smaller bets at micros have gived moonshine ago slots wizard done ok got 5 scatters during feature but on 1 coin on a nd and cashed out 75 at alljackpots 10 christmas gift.

Anyway the pay structure i think on normal games not features does throw up more big 5 off a kind pays on 1 coin i have seen this come up before and beleive it.

What i used to do is when i win after free spins i leave the game if i didnt i would double the bets by not touching the coins the other one.

Or increase bets after a 500 spinner my worst loss is 2k on one slot 4.50 bets 1k for one feature went 500+spins and i hit nothing at all during feature so i didnt up my bets as only 1k left and omg went 500+ spins again sucked up my last 1k the thing that pissed me off is that i had 5k at moneybookers but could not get my hands on it also had loads off withdrawls coming to me just sucked would off got something back if i hit that feature and it was so late in the day it would off been almost my last depending on what i hit. bad experience i had terible luck that week with disconects on high bets jeez on the upside royal vegas last huge tourny has paid anouther 300 plaices $3 so im off to check my account and take em down ifso.

HEI kims unlucky dude i feel your pain maybe try a different game that you wouldnt normaly play can be more fun and more luck so GOODLUCK to you. bye all.
 

lojo

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Now I'm really annoyed by the MG software, this time I'll most likely (I hope that is) I'll get a grip and really stop depositing into this cruel software!

I did some quick 2K high rolling now, and was able to have 1 "deasent" hit so I was up to 1K after depositing $550 in one of the casinoes, however they went really fast! But what happends when I get down to some $0.30 rolling, 15lines x 2 on Avalon? Oh yes, you guessed it, 9 spins and feature. Retrigger, and retrigger! Giving a whopping 150x bet in return! Don't you just love my unluck! I thought, since maby it's 12K since last withdrawal I could have a chance in getting some luck in $10 wagering so I went a little further, no luck.

One of the things that annoys me, is that, I know I'm unlucky, is having the feature on Good to Go 3 times on $7 and one time on $14 - all times only 2 scatters... Then, I also had the feature 2 times on the clone, I do not remember the name in this instant, on $18 wager - again, only two scatters giving no payday for me. That is like 6 chances devided in 3 casinoes I lost a sweet fortune in giving me atleast a chance of a deasent hit at +1.5K, however it seems I only get those fancy hit's low rolling!

So slap me, kick me, bully me for crying and pissing here in the forum! I truly hate MG - 25K in total since last withdrawal! OK, I might have big expectations, I had a "goal" of not withdrawing until I atleast had 3K. Most likely a way to high goal it seems, however I have met that goal several times doing the x times bet in low rolling.

I just can't seem to grasp the "luck" I have where I do not need it, and when I have luck in high rolling it never seems to be those great hits!

So, there you have it, my ass wopping is up for grabs! Just hope some people out there might "learn" from my mistakes!

Also, I must say! The arguments we are having with cheating and such. I do so want to believe you that nothing is wrong. That MG has 160+ games, and not 1 game with 160+ skins. And trust me, I have tried depositing to proove you right. But it's damn annoying, and way to expensive, to experience the "luck" coming on the wrong wagers.

How annoying is it, to have spun 500+ spins on $4.5 on Isis, then the final spins on $0.45 before your broke and you win $500? Or spinning +$5 all day, and relogging ans doing $0.20 spins and bump your balance to +$100?

Man - I said it - MG is truly cruel!

Happy new years by the way!
Kim, you are an awesome and brilliant person, but even a dolt like me can show you that you simply need to change your state of mind to see the magnificent perfection of random numbers - they are worthless.

Now, programs can be corrupt in how they deal with RN, and super-corrupt programs could actually influence prng.

i can tell you on good reality that vegas slot machines can adjust to bet size (within ngc reg)

we have a common bitch with the 'machines' online or off


I'd herd my nickles if i were you. Stop playing; win lose or draw; or i'd find a think tank and chill. But that's just me and you will be you :)
 

Matthew23

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I know how you feel!!

I'm finished with casinos!! I no longer have fun :)

Kimss, I could tell 1000 stories like yours because this shit happens to me all the time.

About 2 or 3 months ago I feel MG software really changed. It seems to be more difficult to hit the bonus rounds and when you do, it doesn't pay off and leaves you feeling robbed.

7 features inside 150 spins on No Worries.......followed by 1300+ (and counting) spins with no feature....... thats not random, that's bullshit

I always believed the software was random so I deposit and deposit over and over thinking "Surely this time, it can't get any worse" but it does. :eek2: Even if I do win it just takes it back again right away...wtf?

Anyway the point I want to make.....If you feel something isn't right then go with your instinct and stop playing. Don't cut down, stop all together.

At the end of the day why wouldn't they cheat players out of their money? It's a corrupt industry full of lies and greed. Would anyone really be surprised if it was true....
 

KasinoKing

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I don't like to add fuel to the fire because I have done very well low-rolling at MG's over the years, but I need to share something extremely worrying that happened a couple of days ago with you.

I was playing Franken Cash and as anyone who plays it will know, you normally get lots of small wins like this typical session with only 10 no-win spins from 25:-

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Carrying on from the above, I decided to try upping the bets... and I still can not believe what happened next.
In the shot below you can see that I only had 3 winning spins from 25, but on the page before that I had also just had 1 win from 16 spins = a total of 4 winning spins from 41.
In fact, if you ignore the last 2 spins, I only had 2 wins in 39 spins!! :eek:
I defy anyone to try to get so few wins from that many spins @ 2-4c/line.


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I really don't know what to think about that.
I sincerely hope I was just very unlucky that day. I suppose the only way to be sure is try the same betting patter a few more times & see what happens.
Could be another very expensive experiment... :(
 

lojo

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Oh for gawd's ache even the KKing is calling out the casinos.

Time to put down the gamble stick, KK :)
 

NASHVEGAS

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Withdrawal (I really did) wise I had a good month with MG's slots but most of the sucess was based on lowering my bet almost 80% after having playcheck pages worse than KK's cause I could not afford the risk of ruin at my typical bet size...even upon lowering my bet nothing but more empty playcheck pages, in the 1000's of spins on TS with no features (1 or 2 totaling like $100).....then out of nowhere a feature paying 550 times,then 240 times bet and before lowering my bet iirc a 150 times bet so basically 3 features accounted for my wins over a w-e of play which included some table games also in my lucky winnings. .......Point being it almost seems like the 9 liners have become high variance.....There are not nearly as many winner ss's for TS,LN,ST or SB as in the past either which may be just a coincindence and/or a shift in slot play for alot of forum members to 3DICE!
 
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just play

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may be just a coincindence and/or a shift in slot play for alot of forum members to 3DICE!

I stopped playing MG's about 4-5 months ago, money was like water going down the drain, I switched to RTG only playing at iNetBet and Bodog......Bodog was the most generous with payout until the last few weeks, they have been TERRIBLE.

I went to 3Dice last night and deposited $35 and withdrew $280 :eek: I'm not kidding, I couldn't believe it!!! I wanted to post a screen shot but I was too excited...I was playing video poker at 50 cents and then changed it to $1 and got a Royal Flush!!!! (for $200)

But this rarely happens to me, I am a very unlucky person, I am happy if I get some hours of fun.
 
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kimss

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I don't like to add fuel to the fire because I have done very well low-rolling at MG's over the years, but I need to share something extremely worrying that happened a couple of days ago with you.
So you saw it to! I had the same thing happening when upping from $2.5 to $25 on Harveys! 20 spins without a single nickle in return, just ate $500 straight! In 25 combinations that really tells you something is off.

This is not good you experiencing the up-wager, however I am glad that you infact noticed this now yourself. Low wagering gives you OK wins, and accually a little profit - however most likely no new TV or anything. High wagers gives you this result to many times for it to be "unluck". Sadly it does seem to be the case.

You should also look into my experiment where I force wins on one slot by loosing on another slot - truly interesting! I would like some math skilled statistics people to look into the playcheck data, i would like to confirm that I am wrong and that the wins on one slot is infact random and not a result for balancing out the 95% payout.

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To all of you, thanks for friendly comments! Happy new year, hope it will be a good one!
 

oyw7862

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Hi Pal, just stop high rolling

Pal, Stop playing or high rolling the MG.

Spend your next year 's bank roll on sth else.

I did quiting high rolling the slot 2 days ago and spend my next year 's bank roll on a new BMW 325i, prepaid in full.

Now only 2000$ in my debit card and that is for the next whole year.

I start playing at 1 cent and very good:lolup:. 25 $ I played 2000 + spin:oops:.

Happy new year every one.
 

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