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Oooh
This is getting savage
This is getting savage
yes but obama is held up as a shining beacon of hope, a great man of peace, when the facts prove otherwise.
"America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign"
...in 2016 alone, the Obama administration dropped at least 26,171 bombs. This means that every day last year, the US military blasted combatants or civilians overseas with 72 bombs; that’s three bombs every hour, 24 hours a day.
While most of these air attacks were in Syria and Iraq, US bombs also rained down on people in Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. That’s seven majority-Muslim countries.
One bombing technique that President Obama championed is drone strikes. As drone-warrior-in-chief, he spread the use of drones outside the declared battlefields of Afghanistan and Iraq, mainly to Pakistan and Yemen. Obama authorized over 10 times more drone strikes than George W Bush, and automatically painted all males of military age in these regions asYou do not have permission to view link Log in or register now., making them fair game for remote controlled killing.
....We have no idea how many civilians have been killed in the massive bombings in Iraq and Syria, where the US military is often pursuing Isis in the middle of urban neighborhoods. We only sporadically hear about civilian killings in Afghanistan, such as the tragic bombing of the Doctors Without Borders hospital in Kunduz that left 42 dead and 37 wounded.
Pushed to release information about civilian deaths in drone strikes, in July 2016 the US government made the absurd claim it had killed, at most, 116 civilians in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and Libya between 2009 and 2015. Journalists and human rights advocates said the numbers were ridiculously low and unverifiable, given that no names, dates, locations or others details were released. The London-based Bureau of Investigative Journalism, which has tracked drone strikes for years,You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.was six times higher.
Given that drones account for only a small portion of the munitions dropped in the past eight years, the numbers of civilians killed by Obama’s bombs could be in the thousands. But we can’t know for sure as the administration, and the mainstream media, has been virtually silent about the civilian toll of the administration’s failed interventions.
You sound like a republican here.
You do know that 2016 was one of the main years they were executing the plan to defeat ISIS in Syria and Iraq?
The Pentagon publishes every year the information abut civilian/military/own losses. How accurate they are, I don't know but the numbers are publicly available.
He sure wasn't but not the most war-mongering president either. Compared to others he was rather peace-loving.
so in your opinion his record in office would have secured a nobel peace prize in 2016? [if they hadn't prematurely awarded it in 2009]
Considering he secured the Iran deal, probably yes.
Personally, I would not have awarded him the prize, nor would I give it to any other US president since WWII. None of them had or has a white shirt when it comes to useless wars/unlawful interference in other countries, etc.
yeah I forgot about the iran deal [now torn up by trump, which I do take issue with, as for all those countries to agree it and the scientists to work it out, it must have had something going for it]
I still feel he might not have received it, it could have gone to john kerry as he did a lot of the foot work...
totally, and glad to though, agree with your second point
was wondering when this thread would pick up again
couldn't help but laugh last night, when catching some of 'the trump show with trevor noah' on tv ..or is it called the daily show, hard to tell.
maybe this thread could be renamed 'the daily thread with Harry BKK' as well ;p ;p
something about trumpster calling the owner of Apple, Tim Cook, as Tim Apple, then tweeting later saying it was only to save time and words.
yes he should just have said he goofed up lol.
such a legend, ya gotta love him really!
He’s a fine man. MAGA 2020I hope you trumpsters are proud of Trump. Really classy attacking a dead man. But can't expect much from an idiot like him.
I hope you trumpsters are proud of Trump. Really classy attacking a dead man. But can't expect much from an idiot like him.
Agree with you on this one Carl, he needs to let sleeping dogs lie, my guess is The Donald's moral compass or lack thereof is baked in at this point.
I'll give him credit for one thing though, he's been the same beast from day 1, unlike the democratic hopefuls that are nothing more than a bunch of over promising panderers, parrots, chameleons and sheep.
The Robert Mueller's investigation report is completed [at last] and Trump has apparently been cleared of collusion with Russia....
I think overall this conclusion is sensible, he won the election despite 90% of the mainstream media constantly attacking him and backing Hillary.
As I've mentioned before I'm not a 100% trump enthusiast, he will do and say things I don't agree with, and it could be he now becomes more bellicose in the middle east but I hope he tries to stick with his campaign promises, in the meantime the democrats need to find a common sense candidate who can appeal to traditional america, however I'm not seeing much sign of this...
I guess 2018 didn't teach you much.