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Sorry but that makes a mockery of the whole process....all Trump did was flex his muscles and threaten a country with nuclear annihilation (in response to Kim Jong Un doing the same) and escalate tensions where they're already heightened.

At one stage I actually thought we were at '5 minutes to midnight' so to speak. All the bravado of 'My nuclear button's bigger and it works' as well.....

So effectively bullying another leader with playground insults.....that's worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize?? :laugh:

The only ones who had any real bearing on the Korean supposed truce is China, not Trump :cool:
 
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I still fully support Caledonia and do not want a repeat of Oka. Alpha females are not my favourite. They will keep all the money for themselves to make you pay for their decrepit old Grandfather. Two Wrongs. Oka Cheese instead. Doug Ford? Well I do have breasts and I like to be in charge of my own meals and poops.

Wynne is highly misunderstood because she offers solutions with the problems. She expects people to look for them and instead it is a ladder race. She does have a tendency to sit back smugly and think that you should have known better, but that never solved anything and is likely why people compare her to Great Expectations. I like her. I think she is strong and able to handle issues of the Day. Horvath is ok, but put an Alpha Alpha Phi in a position of power and we might all go down in flames so her friends can build Ivory Towers...no friends in Low Places required.
 
I still fully support Caledonia and do not want a repeat of Oka. Alpha females are not my favourite. They will keep all the money for themselves to make you pay for their decrepit old Grandfather. Two Wrongs. Oka Cheese instead. Doug Ford? Well I do have breasts and I like to be in charge of my own meals and poops.

Wynne is highly misunderstood because she offers solutions with the problems. She expects people to look for them and instead it is a ladder race. She does have a tendency to sit back smugly and think that you should have known better, but that never solved anything and is likely why people compare her to Great Expectations. I like her. I think she is strong and able to handle issues of the Day. Horvath is ok, but put an Alpha Alpha Phi in a position of power and we might all go down in flames so her friends can build Ivory Towers...no friends in Low Places required.
Ok - I warned you in private about posting nonsensical nonsense in these threads. You may think it's funny, but your fellow members are complaining about it. Either try to join in on the conversation, or start your own thread about alpha females or whatever. Thank you.
 
well at least he did something to do with peace...i couldn't understand and still don't know why obama received it.

It was pathetic they gave it to Obama. The guy wasnt even in office 10 months when they awarded it. Obama was asked why he got it and responded "to be honest I dont even know"

But if history shows anything, Trump should win it quite easily considering they awarded it to the SK president back in 2000 for simply having a couple of discussions with NK that turned out to be nothing. But the thing is, its always come with a political message and bias. And the Norwegians and Scandinavians were mad and acted quite childish when they decided to tweet Trump saying "we dont want to come to your shithole country because there is no free health care" And since its the Norwegian committee...well there is def going to be some serious bias.

However they may have to swallow their anger and bias because if they dont stand for what it means and brushing aside personal bias then the award will lose its merit.

According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize shall be awarded to the person who in the preceding year "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses

Which is exactly what is happening in NK and SK right now. And some other leaders around the world are stating he should get it. SK president just spoke about it actually.

I personally hope he doesnt get it because I dont want to hear him boast about it for next 2-6 years every time he gets a chance. :laugh:
 
It was pathetic they gave it to Obama. The guy wasnt even in office 10 months when they awarded it. Obama was asked why he got it and responded "to be honest I dont even know"

But if history shows anything, Trump should win it quite easily considering they awarded it to the SK president back in 2000 for simply having a couple of discussions with NK that turned out to be nothing. But the thing is, its always come with a political message and bias. And the Norwegians and Scandinavians were mad and acted quite childish when they decided to tweet Trump saying "we dont want to come to your shithole country because there is no free health care" And since its the Norwegian committee...well there is def going to be some serious bias.

However they may have to swallow their anger and bias because if they dont stand for what it means and brushing aside personal bias then the award will lose its merit.

According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize shall be awarded to the person who in the preceding year "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses

Which is exactly what is happening in NK and SK right now. And some other leaders around the world are stating he should get it. SK president just spoke about it actually.

I personally hope he doesnt get it because I dont want to hear him boast about it for next 2-6 years every time he gets a chance. :laugh:
Well, as that's the eligibilty and criteria, it's fair to say Trump's failed on two out of three flat out, with the third one questionable at best to be fair :cool:
 
Sorry but that makes a mockery of the whole process....all Trump did was flex his muscles and threaten a country with nuclear annihilation (in response to Kim Jong Un doing the same) and escalate tensions where they're already heightened.

At one stage I actually thought we were at '5 minutes to midnight' so to speak. All the bravado of 'My nuclear button's bigger and it works' as well.....

So effectively bullying another leader with playground insults.....that's worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize?? :laugh:

The only ones who had any real bearing on the Korean supposed truce is China, not Trump :cool:

A mockery of the whole process? :laugh: I guess you dont know who they have awarded it to in the past then.

Asking NK politely to stop didnt work the last 50 years, so I guess it should have been done by Trump again huh?

I guess you didnt know that North Korea wants relations with the USA so they dont have to rely on China, thats why. The only reason why China got involved is because Trump asked repeatedly and even flew there to sit down with China president. The next day China sanctioned NK and stopped most trade with them.



Sort of reminds me of the people yelling at the sky :laugh:
 
Well, as that's the eligibilty and criteria, it's fair to say Trump's failed on two out of three flat out, with the third one questionable at best to be fair :cool:

Sadly, most analysts from the left and right disagree. You know you are wrong when even CNN and BBC disagree with the above notion.
 
A mockery of the whole process? :laugh: I guess you dont know who they have awarded it to in the past then.

Asking NK politely to stop didnt work the last 50 years, so I guess it should have been done by Trump again huh?

I guess you didnt know that North Korea wants relations with the USA so they dont have to rely on China, thats why. The only reason why China got involved is because Trump asked repeatedly and even flew there to sit down with China president. The next day China sanctioned NK and stopped most trade with them.



Sort of reminds of the people yelling at the sky :laugh:
Just because the Nobel Peace prize has been cheapened still doesn't make it right for him to win it. There's absolutely nothing he's done to even be a nominee :cool:
 
Just because the Nobel Peace prize has been cheapened still doesn't make it right for him to win it. There's absolutely nothing he's done to even be a nominee :cool:

Well it doesnt really matter because like I said I dont really want to hear him boast about it every single day. But its not me saying he deserves it. Its other leaders of other countries, congress, analysts, republicans and democrats.

If he does win it, it would just be a meh to me. They awarded to people for less and a military president in the past. So it wouldnt be that far out there. I think its a shillish award anyways.

I do like how it brought out people in hiding though. The very thought has really outraged alot of his haters :laugh:

 
Well it doesnt really matter because like I said I dont really want to hear him boast about it every single day. But its not me saying he deserves it. Its other leaders of other countries, congress, analysts, republicans and democrats.

If he does win it, it would just be a meh to me. They awarded to people for less and a military president in the past. So it wouldnt be that far out there. I think its a shillish award anyways.

I do like how it brought out people in hiding though. The very thought has really outraged alot of his haters :laugh:


I try not to boast about it, but if you squint hard enough you can see me in that crowd :oops:
 
I try not to boast about it, but if you squint hard enough you can see me in that crowd :oops:

Im somewhere there too laughing my head off at the nonsense lol.

I like Trumps aggressive and unhinged style and I do not see him as a poster boy for the name of the award. But they awarded the Nobel peace prize to Yasser Arafat so will it shock anyone if they give it to Trump?

And They awarded to Kissinger who was accused of war crimes for bombing Cambodia

They gave it to Obama during a time he escalated the war in afghanistan and ordered drone strikes that directly resulted in civilian deaths.

SO if we judge it by that, then yes Trump should win it because he has sent missiles into Syria twice. Engaged with controversial insults and threats with NK and Iran.

Does the award get given for a way they come to peace? Or just that peace is the result and ignore how they got there? Seems they ignore the way its achieved.
 
Im somewhere there too laughing my head off at the nonsense lol.

I like Trumps aggressive and unhinged style and I do not see him as a poster boy for the name of the award. But they awarded the Nobel peace prize to Yasser Arafat so will it shock anyone if they give it to Trump?

And They awarded to Kissinger who was accused of war crimes for bombing Cambodia

They gave it to Obama during a time he escalated the war in afghanistan and ordered drone strikes that directly resulted in civilian deaths.

SO if we judge it by that, then yes Trump should win it because he has sent missiles into Syria twice. Engaged with controversial insults and threats with NK and Iran.

Does the award get given for a way they come to peace? Or just that peace is the result and ignore how they got there? Seems they ignore the way its achieved.
Well yes, I suppose there's an argument for where the end justifies the means. Still don't believe he had that much of a role to play in it though :cool:
 
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Well yes, I suppose there's an argument for where the end justifies the means. Still don't believe he had that much of a role to play in it though :cool:

I dont know why some people say this? Out of all the things to argue about and discredit Trump for this is the one some people are choosing? And like I said, you know how CNN, ABC, MSNBC, BBC hate the guy and all of them have openly admitted and given the guy credit. Which is almost as likely as Trump and Rosie O'donnell getting married and falling in love.

Everything I have read and interviews I have listened to by CNN and the left all give valid reasons.

China never engaged like this before with North Korea until Trump pressured them and asked them to help. He had Pompeo sit down with North Korea and speak with Kim Jong Un in secret.













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Not long after this meeting Trump asked of China, China voted to imposed the sanctions through the UN to North Korea. Which included slow down of oil and coal trade. Among others.

Trump does not get all the credit. China gets some too for agreeing to use its power over NK to force them to smarten up. But I see no way Trump has 'little' to do with it.
 
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I dont know why some people say this? Out of all the things to argue about and discredit Trump for this is the one some people are choosing? And like I said, you know how CNN, ABC, MSNBC, BBC hate the guy and all of them have openly admitted and given the guy credit. Which is almost as likely as Trump and Rosie O'donnell getting married and falling in love.

Everything I have read and interviews I have listened to by CNN and the left all give valid reasons.

China never engaged like this before with North Korea until Trump pressured them and asked them to help. He had Pompeo sit down with North Korea and speak with Kim Jong Un in secret.













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Not long after this meeting Trump asked of China, China voted to imposed the sanctions through the UN to North Korea. Which included slow down of oil and coal trade. Among others.

Trump does not get all the credit. China gets some too for agreeing to use its power over NK to force them to smarten up. But I see no way Trump has 'little' to do with it.

Media news outlets are hardly steeped in truth. I'm pretty sure the region would have achieved the same result without Trump's fire and brimstone rhetoric :cool:
 
Media news outlets are hardly steeped in truth. I'm pretty sure the region would have achieved the same result without Trump's fire and brimstone rhetoric :cool:

Ok. So what is the liberal medias agenda then for giving him credit for once in their lives? Why would they make things up to make him look good when they have focused the last 18 months on never ending hate articles?

And China would never have got involved. Just like they didnt for the last 50 years until Trump came along and pressured and asked China for help.
 
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I dont know why some people say this? Out of all the things to argue about and discredit Trump for this is the one some people are choosing? And like I said, you know how CNN, ABC, MSNBC, BBC hate the guy and all of them have openly admitted and given the guy credit. Which is almost as likely as Trump and Rosie O'donnell getting married and falling in love.

Everything I have read and interviews I have listened to by CNN and the left all give valid reasons.

China never engaged like this before with North Korea until Trump pressured them and asked them to help. He had Pompeo sit down with North Korea and speak with Kim Jong Un in secret.













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Not long after this meeting Trump asked of China, China voted to imposed the sanctions through the UN to North Korea. Which included slow down of oil and coal trade. Among others.

Trump does not get all the credit. China gets some too for agreeing to use its power over NK to force them to smarten up. But I see no way Trump has 'little' to do with it.


I see you still have little clue about international diplomacy!

You really think / believe that China an SK are lauding or listening to Mr. T for no reason! :what:
 
I see you still make things up because I never said they are doing it for no reason.

The lack of shows you are not interested in a proper debate and rather only in cheerleading for your idol.

Your last post is the perfect example.

As for your Iran post a few pages earlier. You must be sooooo itching for the US to start a war with Iran that you even start posting an unproven media rant by the Israeli prime minister who has shown to be a liar in the past. Read the statement from the IAEA to see what the real truth is.

But that you wouldn't post of course together with the Netanyahu show to keep it a fair and balanced discussion because you have not interest in something like that.
 
The lack of shows you are not interested in a proper debate and rather only in cheerleading for your idol.

Your last post is the perfect example.

As for your Iran post a few pages earlier. You must be sooooo itching for the US to start a war with Iran that you even start posting an unproven media rant by the Israeli prime minister who has shown to be a liar in the past. Read the statement from the IAEA to see what the real truth is.

But that you wouldn't post of course together with the Netanyahu show to keep it a fair and balanced discussion because you have not interest in something like that.

This is the North Korea thread and I posted an article that North Korea released 3 prisoners who have been held for years. Whats the issue? Are you upset because I am not posting negative things? By all means feel free to post whatever you are finding about this to be negative.

Why are you making assumptions that I want a war with Iran? Because I posted a huge story that was trending all over the world. BTW those documents were verified by the USA so both countries are liars because Harry said so. Please post some facts proving its a lie then. Because you just post whatever you feel like it all the time with absolutely no proof.

Why try and post a cliff hanger, like ohhhh go read the IAEA. Yes Harry, everyone saw the report. Its not a secret it was on every new station in the world. They saw no new action since 2009. But dont forget Iran also claimed on tv they never built a bomb, have no intention, , its against their religion. Iran are the liars. But you say Israel is lying. Ok so provide proof they are and Iran is being truthful.

And if I recall the prime ministers evidence provided info that they have it hidden away to use it whenever they feel like. When Iran claimed they had nothing of the sort.
 
I just answered a question :)
You should really stop calling people haters. It's childish.
It must be ok even in your world to have a different opinion without being called a hater.

I didnt quote you or use your name or even mean you. I was referring to the haters coming out of nowhere in those youtube videos that yell at the sky anytime Trump does something good. Youtube is riddled with hate and so is yahoo articles ever since it was announced on their website that "Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize" Go read the comments if you want.

You should really ask people before you assume.
 
This is the North Korea thread and I posted an article that North Korea released 3 prisoners who have been held for years. Whats the issue? Are you upset because I am not posting negative things? By all means feel free to post whatever you are finding about this to be negative.

Why are you making assumptions that I want a war with Iran? Because I posted a huge story that was trending all over the world. BTW those documents were verified by the USA so both countries are liars because Harry said so. Please post some facts proving its a lie then. Because you just post whatever you feel like it all the time with absolutely no proof.

Why try and post a cliff hanger, like ohhhh go read the IAEA. Yes Harry, everyone saw the report. Its not a secret it was on every new station in the world. They saw no new action since 2009. But dont forget Iran also claimed on tv they never built a bomb, have no intention, , its against their religion. Iran are the liars. But you say Israel is lying. Ok so provide proof they are and Iran is being truthful.

And if I recall the prime ministers evidence provided info that they have it hidden away to use it whenever they feel like. When Iran claimed they had nothing of the sort.

Closing your eyes on facts again?

Pompeo visits Netanyahu, shortly after Netanyahu presents the "huge story" (as you put it) in English language in an address to his citizens!!! Not even an hour later Mr. T chimes in to back him up. All this about documents, history and facts that haven been known for years and presented no evidence whatsoever that Iran is in breach of the JPCOA deal. Even Israeli news outlets point to that.

Funny how it is all during the cliffhanger Mr. T is making of re-certifying the JPCOA deal because he is desperately looking for reasons to scrap it. But just like with the ACA he has no plan whatsoever what should happen if he scraps it.
 
I didnt quote you or use your name or even mean you. I was referring to the haters coming out of nowhere in those youtube videos that yell at the sky anytime Trump does something good. Youtube is riddled with hate and so is yahoo articles ever since it was announced on their website that "Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize" Go read the comments if you want.

You should really ask people before you assume.

Of course I thought you meant me since I haven't posted in any of these threads before. Sorry if I was wrong.

Even if youtube and other places is full of rough words, then it's still you who calls them haters. I hope you will be specific with who you call haters in the future so the rest of us don't think it's us you mean.
 
Closing your eyes on facts again?

Pompeo visits Netanyahu, shortly after Netanyahu presents the "huge story" (as you put it) in English language in an address to his citizens!!! Not even an hour later Mr. T chimes in to back him up. All this about documents, history and facts that haven been known for years and presented no evidence whatsoever that Iran is in breach of the JPCOA deal. Even Israeli news outlets point to that.

Funny how it is all during the cliffhanger Mr. T is making of re-certifying the JPCOA deal because he is desperately looking for reasons to scrap it. But just like with the ACA he has no plan whatsoever what should happen if he scraps it.

So no proof then that Israel are liars and Iran told the truth?

Seems you arent up to date. The prime minister said on national tv why he spoke in English. Its no secret nor did he try and hide it. So your attempt at a conspiracy failed lol.




How do you know the USA has no plan? Any proof of that?
 
So no proof then that Israel are liars and Iran told the truth?

Seems you arent up to date. The prime minister said on national tv why he spoke in English. Its no secret nor did he try and hide it. So your attempt at a conspiracy failed lol.




How do you know the USA has no plan? Any proof of that?


Netanyahu clearly lied that Iran is in the process of pursuing nuclear weapons right at this moment. That is not true.

Any proof the USA has a plan? Mr. T never has a plan for things ahead, he said that himself.
 
Of course I thought you meant me since I haven't posted in any of these threads before. Sorry if I was wrong.

Even if youtube and other places is full of rough words, then it's still you who calls them haters. I hope you will be specific with who you call haters in the future so the rest of us don't think it's us you mean.

Exactly, why would I call you a hater when you dont even post in these threads?

Unless I quote you directly or refer to people as haters, dont assume I mean you. My post where I included the word haters provided the video right after. So I think its safe to assume what I meant. If you ever feel I am indirectly meaning you, feel free to ask before you call me childish.
 
Netanyahu clearly lied that Iran is in the process of pursuing nuclear weapons right at this moment. That is not true.

Any proof the USA has a plan? Mr. T never has a plan for things ahead, he said that himself.

You made the claim its on you to prove it. Not just make whatever statements you want and then demand everyone prove otherwise :laugh:

Oh and by the way Pompeo stated the reason for his visit was to review the documents before Israel went public. So there goes another one of your conspiracies. And here is a video of Pompeo confirming the documents are legit. He was the head of the CIA until recently left that title to become secretary of state. So unless he is now a liar too. I guess everyone are liars but Iran are honest. Because Harry said so.



Part of the Iranian deal was Iran claiming it had none of this. 3 different leaders in Iran all went on public TV and announced this to the world. They lied.

So once again I will ask you. Do you have any proof what Israel showed was all a lie and is risking an end to his career and prison for making up such lies. Why when Iran is caught lying in footage do you call israel theliars?

Israel intelligence is quite obviously far and above anyone else. And by the way the IAEA also concluded that Iran held little to none of what Israel exposed. So using them as a reliable source of information has been proven to be unreliable. Their statement is also very vague. Wheres the big bombshell you are claiming?


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This was proposed by NK during their visit to Sweden earlier this year, nothing new and certainly no "incredible progress". :rolleyes:

And as of this moment, they have yet to be released.

There was no deal in place with the talks in Sweden. There was also talks between other countries 6 months ago, 12 months 18 months ago and in 2015.

As CNN article states, the negotiations that had them released took part in the last few days between the USA and NK.

Reports form numerous sources have claimed that all 3 prisoners have been moved to hotels to remain and released before the meeting with Trump.

Only in your world do you not call the release of prisoners between the two counties progress :laugh:

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Exactly, why would I call you a hater when you dont even post in these threads?

Unless I quote you directly or refer to people as haters, dont assume I mean you. My post where I included the word haters provided the video right after. So I think its safe to assume what I meant. If you ever feel I am indirectly meaning you, feel free to ask before you call me childish.

I still think it's childish to call anyone haters. And dangerous, because someone might believe you. Especially if you don't know if hate is what they feel.

The fact that you use the word haters about the people in that video shows that you actually call people that without having any clue if they really hate Trump or not. I could just see peaceful people trying some silly primal scream protest. There were even children in the video. I suggest you stop using that word if you're not sure if it's a lie or not.
 
I still think it's childish to call anyone haters. And dangerous, because someone might believe you. Especially if you don't know if hate is what they feel.

The fact that you use the word haters about the people in that video shows that you actually call people that without having any clue if they really hate Trump or not. I could just see peaceful people trying some silly primal scream protest. There were even children in the video. I suggest you stop using that word if you're not sure if it's a lie or not.

What word would make Trilej happy to use then when people meet in spot to yell their dislike for another human being chanting things like trump is KKK

Sites owned and used by same people. Also some of those people were identified as antifa who were later arrested for riots, assault on trump supporters and destruction of property.

It is not childish it is fact. They are haters. And I would appreciate if you kept the name calling to yourself. Your whole issue is someone belittling others using a word to do so. Yet, in the same post you try to belittle me by calling me childish and clueless. How rich.

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Aside from all that. Common sense that people meet in a spot and cry and yell and scream in anger and protest towards another human being is the exact definition of hate. Furthermore when a trump supporter got in the middle of the group, a Trump hater assaulted one of them by physically pushing the person.

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For Scandinavians Obama stood for hope, while we believe Trump is a lunatic on the wrong position. That's why Obama got it and Trump never will.

Obama was a very good speaker that fooled alot of people with it.

In reality, he attacked and bombed 7 countries, invaded a sovereign nation and during the next 12 months after he was awarded the Nobel Peace price he dropped over 26,000 bombs on various countries. Not exactly peaceful. Obama didnt even want to go and accept the award.

Its ex secretary stated that they regretted that decision afterwards

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Obama was a very good speaker that fooled alot of people with it.

In reality, he attacked and bombed 7 countries, invaded a sovereign nation and during the next 12 months after he was awarded the Nobel Peace price he dropped over 26,000 bombs on various countries. Not exactly peaceful. Obama didnt even want to go and accept the award.

Its ex secretary stated that they regretted that decision afterwards

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Well, for Scandinavians Obama stood for hope, while we believe Trump is a lunatic on the wrong position. That's why Obama got it and Trump never will.
 
So lying about the size of the crowd is the same as lying about weapons of mass destruction that led to hundreds of thousands of innocent lives being lost? I dont think so.
Adultery that happened 12 years ago when he wasnt a president vs a president who committed that act while being a president and doing it on white house property and lying to the american people is very different.


My point about clinton wasnt the outcome of the lie. But that all politicians lie.

About the porn star and Comey...Of course it happens all over. But we are talking about two people who have a bias and reason to write their book. It doesnt make it any less meaningful.

Giuliani on hannity last night says trump personally paid back Cohen the stormy money.

So glad that’s cleared up cuz trump and Sarah h sanders a few weeks ago said he knew nothing about it .

Go please ....explain it away. And tell me how it’s not important.


Btw Lies about trade deficits with Canada. And playing hard and fast with facts also not little lies. these are not little lies about who ate all of the chips.

Edit: why not say this from the beginning. This is what I don’t get. Every time he gets caught in a contradiction it makes him look guilty of something.
 
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Giuliani on hannity last night says trump personally paid back Cohen the stormy money.

So glad that’s cleared up cuz trump a few weeks ago said he knew nothing about it .

Go please ....explain it away. And tell me how it’s not important.


Btw Lies about trade deficits with Canada. And playing hard and fast with facts also not little lies. these are not little lies about who ate all of the chips.

yeah I watched it. He either messed up huge or got ahead of the ball because it was going to be outted anyways. So Trump is either going to be super pissed this morning or he was aware they were going to get ahead of the ball. It might have been the only way for them to prove they didnt use campaign funds

Rudy suggested that with rich controversial people who have alot of court cases have lawyers take care of things, bill them and they pay. Trump has dozens and dozens of suits against him every year for many years. Its possible that cohen said to Trump I need 130k, im going to pay for it out of my pocket, I cant tell you what its about because it may self incriminate you and then you can pay me back. Its called an NDA between client and attorney.

Or Trump knew and has been told under no circumstance can you admit you did this.

Which one do I believe? No idea. In one sense I have a hard time thinking a former mayor of new york, high profile attorney, former attorney General for reagan, US attorney for New York made such a crazy mistake. but sometime old confident people slip up. So who knows.

Only thing I care about is if he used campaign funds. Aside from that I could truly care less. I wouldnt let some money hungry porn star take down my presidency either because I did something 12 years ago.

Cant comment on what hes said lately about deficits with Canada because I havent seen anything on it
 
You made the claim its on you to prove it. Not just make whatever statements you want and then demand everyone prove otherwise :laugh:

Oh and by the way Pompeo stated the reason for his visit was to review the documents before Israel went public. So there goes another one of your conspiracies. And here is a video of Pompeo confirming the documents are legit. He was the head of the CIA until recently left that title to become secretary of state. So unless he is now a liar too. I guess everyone are liars but Iran are honest. Because Harry said so.



Part of the Iranian deal was Iran claiming it had none of this. 3 different leaders in Iran all went on public TV and announced this to the world. They lied.

So once again I will ask you. Do you have any proof what Israel showed was all a lie and is risking an end to his career and prison for making up such lies. Why when Iran is caught lying in footage do you call israel theliars?

Israel intelligence is quite obviously far and above anyone else. And by the way the IAEA also concluded that Iran held little to none of what Israel exposed. So using them as a reliable source of information has been proven to be unreliable. Their statement is also very vague. Wheres the big bombshell you are claiming?


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The ex-CIA director travels to Israel to review documents which the CIA claims to have confirmed years ago .... hmm, right!

He didn't travel to Israel to align the strategies so Mr. T can have a reason to scrap the JPCOA deal! Oh no, not at all because we are all blind and naive, aren't we? :rolleyes:

Netanyahu would probably go to prison one way or another, the investigation he is under is closing in fast.

He was the one peddling a cartoon bomb in 2012 at the UN which turned out to be a complete blunder or holding a "clandestine" US congress speech in 2015. Why would he now suddenly speak the truth?

Again, the IAEA knew about the program and that it has been dormant for quite some years. The US Intelligence Agencies confirmed that too.

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yeah I watched it. He either messed up huge or got ahead of the ball because it was going to be outted anyways. So Trump is either going to be super pissed this morning or he was aware they were going to get ahead of the ball. It might have been the only way for them to prove they didnt use campaign funds

Rudy suggested that with rich controversial people who have alot of court cases have lawyers take care of things, bill them and they pay. Trump has dozens and dozens of suits against him every year for many years. Its possible that cohen said to Trump I need 130k, im going to pay for it out of my pocket, I cant tell you what its about because it may self incriminate you and then you can pay me back. Its called an NDA between client and attorney.

Or Trump knew and has been told under no circumstance can you admit you did this.

Which one do I believe? No idea. In one sense I have a hard time thinking a former mayor of new york, high profile attorney, former attorney General for reagan, US attorney for New York made such a crazy mistake. but sometime old confident people slip up. So who knows.

Only thing I care about is if he used campaign funds. Aside from that I could truly care less. I wouldnt let some money hungry porn star take down my presidency either because I did something 12 years ago.

Cant comment on what hes said lately about deficits with Canada because I havent seen anything on it


i don't think they used campaign funds. they wouldn't be that stupid.

and yes all of those things that giuliani said i believe...celebrity nda's etc... as well as your possible scenario...all seem possible and true.

however my point is...why all the lies. just makes him look more suspicious.

as for giuliani ...i think it's getting ahead of the game...lessen the blow that the president of the usa lied about not knowing about the payment. and this in itself is a joke.
i think the other side has proof that he knew and that's why giuliani and co are getting ahead of the game. but honestly at this point no one cares cuz of the amount of lies we are used to. which i guess is the point of all the lies to begin with.
 
The ex-CIA director travels to Israel to review documents which the CIA claims to have confirmed years ago .... hmm, right!

He didn't travel to Israel to align the strategies so Mr. T can have a reason to scrap the JPCOA deal! Oh no, not at all :rolleyes:

Netanyahu would probably go to prison one way or another, the investigation he is under is closing in fast.

He was the one peddling a cartoon bomb in 2012 at the UN which turned out to be a complete blunder or holding a "clandestine" US congress speech in 2015. Why would he now suddenly speak the truth?

Again, the IAEA knew about the program and that it has been dormant for a few years. The US Intelligence Agencies confirmed that too.

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Mike Pompeo. "Iran hid a vast atomic archive from the world and from the IAEA - until today," Mr Pompeo added.


If you are referring to the ex cia chief Hayden, well I wouldnt take anything he says seriously as he is completely anti trump and is another one who has a book out bashing the president.



Israel PM seems like a bit of a drama queen but I dont really blame him since Iran leadership hold marches and chant death to all Jews and Israel. I wouldnt want them having nukes either if I were him.


But none of these agencies knew the extent. None of them have reviewed all those documents until now. They suggested some of the claims but alot of it was guess work. And of course they know Iran was after weapons. That is not new, hence why there was a deal made in the first place.



In the end what it comes down to is what Iran is doing. And their leaders chanting death to america and jews and having classes in schools on how to hate and destroy the infidel americans and jews is what is concerning.

Since the agreement was signed in 2015:



On June 24, 2016, Hezbollah secretary general Hassan Nasrallah delivered a speech dealing with Hezbollah’s current challenges. “Hezbollah’s budget, salaries, funds, food, drink [and] weapons all come from Iran… As long as Iran has money, we have money,” he said

As of May 2016,
Iran continued to develop its ballistic missile program, with no penalty from the United States, or the international community.
Iran had conducted tests on ballistic missiles capable of delivering a nuclear weapon eight times. In testimony before the Senate, Mr. Michael Elleman expressed that these missile tests sought to increase missile accuracy.



In December 2015, an Iran Revolutionary Guard Corps vessel fired unguided rockets in close proximity of the USS Harry Truman in international waters.



Not long after the agreement:

a German intelligence document charges that Iran continues to flout the agreement.


Merkel said Iran is actively seeking missile and nuclear technology, and that NATO must guard against attack by the Islamic Republic. Germany’s Angela Merkel also described Iran’s violations of UN Security Council’s anti-missile regulations: “Iran continued unabated to develop its rocket program in conflict with the relevant provisions of the UN Security Council,” Merkel told the Bundestag.

Iran has escalated its threats toward Israel. Over the past year, Iranian officials have stated, “Israel should be annihilated,” “God willing, there will be no Zionist regime in 25 years,” and “We will raze the Zionist regime in less than eight minutes.”

Iranian ambassador to Lebanon Mohammad FathAli pledged that Iran would give a sum of $7,000 to the family of every “martyr of the Jerusalem Intifada,” speaking at a press conference held in Beirut on February 24, 2016. FathAli further said that Iran would give a sum of $30,000 to “any family whose house was destroyed by the occupation, because one of its members participated in the Jerusalem Intifada against the Zionist occupiers.”





Yeah seems they are quite the nice bunch following the agreement.
 
i don't think they used campaign funds. they wouldn't be that stupid.

and yes all of those things that giuliani said i believe...celebrity nda's etc... as well as your possible scenario...all seem possible and true.

however my point is...why all the lies. just makes him look more suspicious.

as for giuliani ...i think it's getting ahead of the game...lessen the blow that the president of the usa lied about not knowing about the payment. and this in itself is a joke.
i think the other side has proof that he knew and that's why giuliani and co are getting ahead of the game. but honestly at this point no one cares cuz of the amount of lies we are used to. which i guess is the point of all the lies to begin with.

The way Mr. T operates is typical of people like him.

- First categorically deny everything, do not admit any wrongdoing, blast your opponent
- If something leaks, still deny in the hope it goes away or just goes quiet
- If more leaks, state you had not knowledge
- If the whole truth is about to come out, admit it and twist it to be legal/normal/etc.

All to be expected, I am not in the least surprised.
 
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