North Korea and US politics

[Kroffe]

He made an innocent statement about marrying his daughter. His comments about women are not abnormal. They're stupid, but they are by no means outside of social norms. Ask any woman. Men say disrespectful stupid shit all the time. I've never heard this level of indignation from men directed at another man for these things before, so you'll excuse my struggle to see this as genuine. Joe Biden repeatedly lays his hands inappropriately on women and children. There is no comparison.

You might find it normal to talk about what you would do to your daughter if you were not "happily married and her father".
I think it sounds incredibly creepy.

Im not sure about the soical norms in USA, maybe everybody has a long wiki-page about how great they treat women.

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[colinsunderland]

He made an innocent statement about marrying his daughter. His comments about women are not abnormal. They're stupid, but they are by no means outside of social norms. Ask any woman. Men say disrespectful stupid shit all the time. I've never heard this level of indignation from men directed at another man for these things before, so you'll excuse my struggle to see this as genuine. Joe Biden repeatedly lays his hands inappropriately on women and children. There is no comparison.

I think you will find most fathers don't say stuff like that about their daughters!

 

[Borgie]

If my ex husband had talked about our daughters like that I would have been trying to get him locked up !!! It is not normal in anyway .

 

[Kelly Jo]

You might find it normal to talk about what you would do to your daughter if you were not "happily married and her father".
I think it sounds incredibly creepy.

Im not sure about the soical norms in USA, maybe everybody has a long wiki-page about how great they treat women.

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THINK about what you're saying here. You are saying that the comment a proud father made about his daughter becoming a beautiful capable women is more creepy than a man who inappropriately touches and sniffs women and children.

This is not the kind of person you are, but this is the kind of person you're projecting.

Do you recognize the absolute absurdity of your words?

You will someday, and maybe then it will become clear to you how the over abundance of principled morals and empathy that characterize so many good Liberal people have been used to manipulate them into condoning and acting out the very behaviors they despise.

 

[colinsunderland]

THINK about what you're saying here. You are saying that the comment a proud father made about his daughter becoming a beautiful capable women is more creepy than a man who inappropriately touches and sniffs women and children.

he didn't say anything of the sort!

 

[Kroffe]

THINK about what you're saying here. You are saying that the comment a proud father made about his daughter becoming a beautiful capable women is more creepy than a man who inappropriately touches and sniffs women and children.

This is not the kind of person you are, but this is the kind of person you're projecting.

Do you recognize the absolute absurdity of your words?

You will someday, and maybe then it will become clear to you how the over abundance of principled morals and empathy that characterize so many good Liberal people have been used to manipulate them into condoning and acting out the very behaviors they despise.

The only absurd thing here is you thinking Trump talking about what he would do to his children if only he werent married and their father is normal.

I never said what Biden did was not creepy.
I never said that trump is more creepy than biden.

 

[Kelly Jo]

I think you will find most fathers don't say stuff like that about their daughters!

The only absurd thing here is you thinking Trump talking about what he would do to his children if only he werent married and their father is normal.

I never said what Biden did was not creepy.
I never said that trump is more creepy than biden.

You said, "At least it's not his own kid."
That is an exact quote in response to my video of Biden sniffing and touching ANOTHER kid.

If that doesn't contextually mean that you think Biden's behavior is better than comments made by @Potus, I'll kiss Obama's arse.

It's why I said, "Think..."

This is why I took a break. We are seriously having this conversation? I made a post about Biden. It never fails...

 

[Kroffe]

You said, "At least it's not his own kid."
That is an exact quote in response to my video of Biden sniffing and touching ANOTHER kid.

If that doesn't contextually mean that you think Biden's behavior is better than comments made by @Potus, I'll kiss Obama's arse.

It's why I said, "Think..."

This is why I took a break. We are seriously having this conversation? I made a post about Biden. It never fails...

Well, you dont seem to hear Trumps comments the same way everyone else does.
Like they go thru a filter or something and come out all nice sounding.

I think both are creepy.
I dont really have a personal ranking i keep on them as to who is more creepy than the other.

Also, you need to ask permission before kissing obamas ass, sexual harassment goes both ways.

 

[Borgie]

You said, "At least it's not his own kid."
That is an exact quote in response to my video of Biden sniffing and touching ANOTHER kid.

If that doesn't contextually mean that you think Biden's behavior is better than comments made by @Potus, I'll kiss Obama's arse.

It's why I said, "Think..."

This is why I took a break. We are seriously having this conversation? I made a post about Biden. It never fails...

A lot of us here are not American . We can't vote so you can go right ahead and vote Trump back in. We have no influence.
Likewise us kissing Obamas arse will not help as we can't vote Democrat either.

Some of us will however express opinions and comment on the extremely unstable and strange behaviour of the man who is supposedly running your country.

You are definitely seeing someone and hearing someone i am not seeing or hearing. I just can't find anything normal in his comments about his daughter. It's beyond creepy.

 

[sufferinsilence]

What time is Trump's rally tonight?

 

[Kelly Jo]

A lot of us here are not American . We can't vote so you can go right ahead and vote Trump back in. We have no influence.
Likewise us kissing Obamas arse will not help as we can't vote Democrat either.

Some of us will however express opinions and comment on the extremely unstable and strange behaviour of the man who is supposedly running your country.

You are definitely seeing someone and hearing someone i am not seeing or hearing. I just can't find anything normal in his comments about his daughter. It's beyond creepy.

You've been manipulated into a belief that just doesn't hold water.


Let's get to the truth here. Trump didn't qualify his comment by saying anything about being married. That never happened. Koeffe added it. That changes things, now doesn't it? I don't think Koeffe did it on purpose or to mislead, but regardless, that is a consequence .

The specific incident included a discussion about Ivanka being on the COVER of a Playboy magazine. Trump said it would be very disappointing, but not really. It depended on what was INSIDE the magazine. If you watch it, you'll see that his gestures and body language are a large part of the way he communicates. We are all gifted with complex communication skills & we all depend on them to get our intended message across. The fact that people ignore these when it comes to Trump, is mind boggling. Literally all he was saying with that comment about dating her was that she certainly met the standard for being the subject of this type of magazine. You can't just ignore what his immediate response was. He said it would be disappointing. Everything after that was to validate his stance.

*How would he feel if she were on the Cover?

He'd be okay.

*Inside the mag?

He qualifies that she is suitable as the subject for this type of magazine.
He goes on waaaaay too much, but this isn't uncommon for anyone when a topic is uncomfortable.
None of this part of the conversation negates his true feeling. It would be disappointing.

This is not rocket science.

 

[Kroffe]

You've been manipulated into a belief that just doesn't hold water.


Let's get to the truth here. Trump didn't qualify his comment by saying anything about being married. That never happened. Koeffe added it. That changes things, now doesn't it? I don't think Koeffe did it on purpose or to mislead, but regardless, that is a consequence .

The specific incident included a discussion about Ivanka being on the COVER of a Playboy magazine. Trump said it would be very disappointing, but not really. It depended on what was INSIDE the magazine. If you watch it, you'll see that his gestures and body language are a large part of the way he communicates. We are all gifted with complex communication skills & we all depend on them to get our intended message across. The fact that people ignore these when it comes to Trump, is mind boggling. Literally all he was saying with that comment about dating her was that she certainly met the standard for being the subject of this type of magazine. You can't just ignore what his immediate response was. He said it would be disappointing. Everything after that was to validate his stance.

*How would he feel if she were on the Cover?

He'd be okay.

*Inside the mag?

He qualifies that she is suitable as the subject for this type of magazine.
He goes on waaaaay too much, but this isn't uncommon for anyone when a topic is uncomfortable.
None of this part of the conversation negates his true feeling. It would be disappointing.

This is not rocket science.

Yeah, fakenews, right?
Did you even watch the clip i posted?

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[Kroffe]

Tho i agree, what he said about his daughter in the first clip was only kind of creepy.
But you kind of skipped the rest it seems.

 

[Playford7]

Aww that's cute! Little Donny has learned to read! You must be a proud parent <3
Hope you've remembered to give him plenty of compliments or he gets a bit grumpy. But that's expected for his age I guess. Just don't let him watch too much tv or he doesn't develop mentally. He should go out and play with his friends if he has any.

A bit like you i guess.
I’m from the uk, no real horse in the 2020 race in the usa.
Just curious whom you think will win and why?
I’ll say the immature war mongering buffoon the orange guy...

 

[Kelly Jo]

Tho i agree, what he said about his daughter in the first clip was only kind of creepy.
But you kind of skipped the rest it seems.

Is there a clip of Trump saying this? If there is and it matched the implied context, I would likely change my view. I'm going by what I've seen, so if there's more....

 

[Playford7]

Hmm that's a difficult one! But I'll say that at least he hasn't started a new war (though the Iran situation has become much more dangerous). I'll throw it back at ya! You have anything good to say about Hillary Clinton?

Haha nobody has anything good to say about that witch! Haha, Although I hear Monica is warming to her...

 

[Kroffe]

Is there a clip of Trump saying this? If there is and it matched the implied context, I would likely change my view. I'm going by what I've seen, so if there's more....

It was in the clip i posted.
A quote from him, from an interview.
Thats him saying it.

 

[vorcirion]

A bit like you i guess.
I’m from the uk, no real horse in the 2020 race in the usa.
Just curious whom you think will win and why?
I’ll say the immature war mongering buffoon the orange guy...

Biden will win obviously and because of 49k dead americans and counting. Why you think Trump will win?

 

[Playford7]

Biden will win obviously and because of 49k of dead americans and counting. Why you think Trump will win?

Because people the world over reject nonsense like you spout.
He’s not the leader the Americans deserve my friend. He’s the leader they needed.
MAGA 2020!

 

[vorcirion]

Because people the world over reject nonsense like you spout.
He’s not the leader the Americans deserve my friend. He’s the leader they needed.
MAGA 2020!

Well I sort of agree with you on deserving part. But let's see if that pile of dead people 'cause of your orange one's leadership change their mind finally.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Between this and the coronavirus topic this forum is toxic tonight. Are there no mods here?

 

[Kroffe]

Between this and the coronavirus topic this forum is toxic tonight. Are there no mods here?

I saw a mod take a quick look a while ago.

 

[mack341]

Between this and the coronavirus topic this forum is toxic tonight. Are there no mods here?

I think it could be because the virus news has become stale, the lockdown is making everyone fed up, not knowing when it's going to lift, so we're in a state of flux.

I was half tempted to bring kenneth copeland back on as a last ditch distraction technique

 

[Playford7]

Well I sort of agree with you on deserving part. But let's see if that pile of dead people 'cause of your orange one's leadership change their mind finally.

Can’t blame the potus for the Chinese virus mate
That wasn’t in his remit I’m afraid.

 

[Playford7]

Between this and the coronavirus topic this forum is toxic tonight. Are there no mods here?

They are all out eating bat soup mate.

 

[Playford7]

I think it could be because the virus news has become stale, the lockdown is making everyone fed up, not knowing when it's going to lift, so we're in a state of flux.

I was half tempted to bring kenneth copeland back on as a last ditch distraction technique

Mack.. great snakes! How the devil are you? Normally the voice of sanity in a world thats lost its way.
Hope all is well.
Ben

 

[vorcirion]

Can’t blame the potus for the Chinese virus mate
That wasn’t in his remit I’m afraid.

Can blame him for the response to the virus. He knew it was coming. He didn't prepare...it's on him.

 

[pinnit2014]

Between this and the coronavirus topic this forum is toxic tonight. Are there no mods here?

 

[Playford7]

Can blame him for the response to the virus. He knew it was coming. He didn't prepare...it's on him.

Yeah you can say that about the whole of Europe also and the leaders.
But you are pretty silent on that.
The potus approval ratings again today are sky high.
The old Chinese virus won’t keep that man down, he’s like a orange terminator... and it’s 2020..
And ‘ he will be back ‘

 

[sufferinsilence]

These topics drive a man to play Bonanza, just to be able to post in another topic...

 

[pinnit2014]

These topics drive a man to play Bonanza, just to be able to post in another topic...

that would require a win

 

[vorcirion]

Yeah you can say that about the whole of Europe also and the leaders.
But you are pretty silent on that.
The potus approval ratings again today are sky high.
The old Chinese virus won’t keep that man down, he’s like a orange terminator... and it’s 2020..
And ‘ he will be back ‘

You can say that in the UK maybe. We like our leaders here in Finland. We're doing quite fine! I think it was about 80% approval for our leaders' response to the virus.
Dunno what numbers are you reading if you think his approval ratings are sky high

 

[Kelly Jo]

Biden will win obviously and because of 49k of dead americans and counting. Why you think Trump will win?

Biden will never be President.

You dropped this post in here like it was a flaming sack of crap on a front porch. That number is a lie. A trick. A deception. The hospitals in the United States are empty. You can believe the lies, but I live in the middle of a supposed cluster. I know the truth. People in my country are screaming it from the rooftops, nurses and doctors are posting videos online & protests are becoming common place. My country is 7 months away from WOKE. It's only going to get louder and more obnoxious from this point forward. Let Freedom Ring...

 

[Playford7]

You can say that in the UK maybe. We like our leaders here in Finland. We're doing quite fine! I think it was about 80% approval for our leaders' response to the virus.
Dunno what numbers are you reading if you think his approval ratings are sky high

You don’t have the migrant quota we do, not the economy, nor the travel logistics in and out of your lovely country.
You did have a ‘simo’ and for that reason command the most respect.
He hated communist scum and wiped them out like flies.
Don’t be like you, be like simo.

 

[geordiecolin]

Biden will never be President.

You dropped this post in here like it was a flaming sack of crap on a front porch. That number is a lie. A trick. A deception. The hospitals in the United States are empty. You can believe the lies, but I live in the middle of a supposed cluster. I know the truth. People in my country are screaming it from the rooftops, nurses and doctors are posting videos online & protests are becoming common place. My country is 7 months away from WOKE. It's only going to get louder and more obnoxious from this point forward. Let Freedom Ring...

You can not say that. Very few in here want to listen.

Edit. BTW. The Covid thread is <----- That way

 

[ternur]

Between this and the coronavirus topic this forum is toxic tonight. Are there no mods here?

It's not all bad though. Good that people have a place to vent in these times. Naturally some threads get a little heated since we have a lot of members who disagree with a lot of things. And nothing but time in our hands.

If I were a mod, I'd close every other thread than the "I'm currently listening to..." and allow only posts with less than 3 sentences and a mandatory linked music video (or nature doc if you're a bear). You would also have to prove that you had a minimum 3 alcoholic drinks prior posting.

 

[vorcirion]

You don’t have the migrant quota we do, not the economy, nor the travel logistics in and out of your lovely country.
You did have a ‘simo’ and for that reason command the most respect.
He hated communist scum and wiped them out like flies.
Don’t be like you, be like simo.

Flowa powa! Make love not war etc! <3 But I'm sure every finnish person would gladly defend this country again. We're probably the most patriotic people there are. We do love this place!

 

[Playford7]

You can not say that. Very few in here want to listen.

Edit. BTW. The Covid thread is <----- That way

That said we are only using one nightingale hospital. And it’s hardly at capacity.

 

[vorcirion]

Biden will never be President.

You dropped this post in here like it was a flaming sack of crap on a front porch. That number is a lie. A trick. A deception. The hospitals in the United States are empty. You can believe the lies, but I live in the middle of a supposed cluster. I know the truth. People in my country are screaming it from the rooftops, nurses and doctors are posting videos online & protests are becoming common place. My country is 7 months away from WOKE. It's only going to get louder and more obnoxious from this point forward. Let Freedom Ring...

If that number is lie...then what's the real number? I'm pretty sure that number comes from your country. Just like China's number came from China.
If your number is a lie...then why your country is lying to us just like China is...hmm?

 

[Playford7]

Flowa powa! Make love not war etc! <3 But I'm sure every finnish person would gladly defend this country again. We're probably the most patriotic people there are. We do love this place!

Your a lovely people.
Don’t let shitty cultures and people spoil that.

 

[Playford7]

If that number is lie...then what's the real number? I'm pretty sure that number comes from your country. Just like China's number came from China.
If your number is a lie...then why your country is lying to us just like China is...hmm?

And you believe communist China? Really?
Do you need your social credit score raising?
The Chinese virus has a lot of questions to be addressed. And they will after this nonsense.

 

[vorcirion]

And you believe communist China? Really?
Do you need your social credit score raising?
The Chinese virus has a lot of questions to be addressed. And they will after this nonsense.

I don't believe them for sure. They're also using propaganda. I hope they do change because of this and become more open country. I want them to compete for Europe's friendship with US.

 

[Kelly Jo]

If that number is lie...then what's the real number? I'm pretty sure that number comes from your country. Just like China's number came from China.
If your number is a lie...then why your country is lying to us just like China is...hmm?

If you think this is a "Gotcha" question, you'd be wrong. WE'D ALL LIKE TO KNOW WHY!

 

[vorcirion]

If you think this is a "Gotcha" question, you'd be wrong. WE'D ALL LIKE TO KNOW WHY!

Did I understand you correctly...you're also telling that the US is lying? Interesting...better change the leadership I guess since your country is lying so much.

 

[geordiecolin]

That said we are only using one nightingale hospital. And it’s hardly at capacity.

I sometimes read the loonacy writen in the press and what they write often makes no sense at all if you bother actually taken it all in. Most read the headline and maybe a few lines. The Nightingale London springs to mind. But this is not the vaccine thread

 

[Kelly Jo]

Did I understand you correctly...you're also telling that the US is lying? Interesting...better change the leadership I guess since your country is lying so much.

heh heh heh

I think the fact that the leadership in America has been filled to the brim with POS liars since Truman is firmly established. A million times... I'm sorry. I felt the need to get this out of the way and off my chest. We cool?

It's no secret that there are elements in our government that wish to destroy Trump. Why do i have to keep repeating the obvious?

 

[Playford7]

heh heh heh

I think the fact that the leadership in America has been filled to the brim with POS liars since Truman is firmly established. A million times... I'm sorry. I felt the need to get this out of the way and off my chest. We cool?

It's no secret that there are elements in our government that wish to destroy Trump. Why do i have to keep repeating the obvious?

The media and general public opinion of trump is a disgrace.
As seen on here.
Not to worry, he will destroy 2020 and the thread will be littered with salty folk all wondering why.
They blamed a slut the last time, also Russia..
what will it be this time?
Certainly won’t be the Chinese.

 

[geordiecolin]

I don't believe them for sure. They're also using propaganda. I hope they do change because of this and become more open country. I want them to compete for Europe's friendship with US.

I can't see that happening now they are on the brink of being the worlds number one superpower

 

[vorcirion]

The media and general public opinion of trump is a disgrace.
As seen on here.
Not to worry, he will destroy 2020 and the thread will be littered with salty folk all wondering why.
They blamed a slut the last time, also Russia..
what will it be this time?
Certainly won’t be the Chinese.

Would you trust US's friendship with Europe if Trump was leading the US? You know there's gonna be trade talks between the UK and the US.

 

[vorcirion]

I can't see that happening now they are on the brink of being the worlds number one superpower

They need friends too. No country can do things alone. I just don't understand why China goes to Russia when they need friends...US is really weak now. China should use that opportunity to make friends with the EU.