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NO NO NO - Not another tinfoil hat thread BUT still WTF happened to Novomatic Slots!

Discussion in 'Slots Discussion' started by lotusch, Aug 3, 2015.

    Aug 3, 2015
  1. lotusch

    lotusch Noob Webby webby PABaccred mm2

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    Yer,ehm hi guys.
    Many threads arose in the last couple of months about various software being "accused" of being tuned down,lowered RTP% and more strange stuff.
    I have had my fair share of bad beats but in the same time I also have had some very nice wins and cash outs at various casino's playing various software from MGS to Netent and from WMS to Aristocrat.

    BUT BUT BUT,seriously what on earth has happened to Novomatic Slots.
    I can rest my case here and blame it all on bad luck,ok fair enough.
    I thought that for a few months when on an extremely bad run playing Novomatic but this bad runs lasts for well over a year now.
    I CANNOT hit anything decent,no matter what Novomatic Slot I play.
    I was used to hit a good win now and then on any of their slots but I am being butchered by them lately.
    Yeah sure I can stop playing them,do already play them far less frequent but boy o boy,it hurts my eyes every time I try them with a 100 Euro deposit.
    Playtime sometimes is less than 15-20 minutes with €0.80 bets as we all know from Novomatic and it is fine,but normally you can gain most of the avg RTP% back on the bonus games which are very scarce.

    I have hammered Rumpel Wildspins on a certain casino for weeks now in separate deposits over time.
    I NEVER won anything higher than 30x bet in base game and free spins????? Haven't seen them for at least 2000 spins!!
    It is absolutely unbelievable what this slot is capable of...A big crock of shite!
    Same goes for Book of Ra and Lucky Lady Charm.
    Used to get retriggers fairly often in the free spins,nowadays I have even trouble triggering the dams FS and when they occur I might be lucky with 20-30x stake.

    Unlucky?
    Maybe...

    Novomatic reprogrammed their slots?
    Maybe...
    Did they pay too much on the FS?
    Maybe...

    Just my 2 cents!

    For now,Novomatic Slots might go on my blacklist altogether...

    And this is not a rant after a big losing session? :)
    Wanted to post this for a while now and is my accumulated thoughts and frustration about this software.

    No playtime,no bonus triggers...
    Super duper mega shite high volatile?

    Even DOA and JATBS are not this insane as they give you at least some playtime for your dough.
     
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  2. Aug 3, 2015
  3. fun4all

    fun4all Senior Member

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    There was a thread not so long ago where Novamatic slots were discussed. Everybody was in agreement (including respected posters like Simmo) that Novamatic tone down the retriggers and variance of the online versions.

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66391

    This goes hand in hand with the recent trend of online casinos being very scared of having to pay out any sizeable amont and so we get streams of releases from netent completely incapable of any decent hit.

    Of course the online versions of novo slots tend to have slightly higher RTP than the land based versions. While the land based versions have the retriggers presumably the online versions make up for it in some other way, like a kinder base game.

    Personally I think it is a huge mistake from novamatic. The reason their games are loved and so fun are from the mega retriggers. To take this away online is killing their very reason for being popular.
     
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  4. Aug 3, 2015
  5. lotusch

    lotusch Noob Webby webby PABaccred mm2

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    In landbased casino's I had far more retriggers on slots like LLC and Book of Ra than I have ever had online.
    Greentube who runs the online Novo slots should fix their RNG as it sucks big time lately.

    Oh yeah I did hit 5 scatters once on LLC online at Quasargaming for €2500 but that was before the big bad streak started 18 months ago. :)

    Also everyone that plays Novo is raving about Rumpel Wildspins as it has massive potential in FS games.
    Seen a few screen recently on this forum too so yeah it is possible.
    But I hardly trigger them,like I said minimum 2000 spins ago on a certain casino that I have triggered them,and when they appear I might be lucky to get 2 sticky wilds,ofc on reels 4 & 5. Crap!

    Also Novo is one of the slot providers that don't seem to advertise the AVG RTP% in the payout tables and/or helpfiles.
     
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  6. Aug 3, 2015
  7. homerbert

    homerbert I-Gaming Industry Representative webby

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    *where is my tinfoil hat, here is it, great*.

    Well, tbh during all my experience with novomatic games online - best gameplay i had at stargames casino. I have no idea why. Never had good features at other casinos with novo soft, but at stargames i had really awesome delicious hits(1000x+). Also at stargames there is better games selection that at any other novo casino. Just guess, but i am preffer play novo exactly at stargames.

    *wtf, what does this hat doing here? *throw it away* *.
     
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  8. Aug 3, 2015
  9. lotusch

    lotusch Noob Webby webby PABaccred mm2

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    I have won the latter of my big wins also at Stargames but unfortunatelly they have banned me 3 years ago after I rage quit at their casino. :)
    My bad and no hard feelings but they have never allowed me to re-open my account again.
    Otherwise I might go back there for Novo games as they do have the complete online selection available.
     
  10. Aug 3, 2015
  11. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    yep im fond of novo but ive been playing them at engery casino , due to no more at quasar & to be honest there brutal , no features just very poor play there (
     
  12. Aug 3, 2015
  13. homerbert

    homerbert I-Gaming Industry Representative webby

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    wtf? Book of ra deluxe 6??
     
  14. Aug 3, 2015
  15. fun4all

    fun4all Senior Member

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    For ****s sake novamatic can you not do rich witch instead of this load of rubbish?
     
  16. Aug 4, 2015
  17. hoff1985

    hoff1985 Meister Member mm1

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    From someone who played Novomatic onlien and in landbased casinos forever.... It is absolutely normal....

    I've been to my closest landbased casinos a few times and tried to play only Novomatic.... I've made 1000's of spins on differetn machines with 1-2 bonus rounds max and they paid 20x bet.... But then there were those days i made 50 spins triggered two bonus rounds had 7 retriggers on Lucky Lady and walked away with 800x bet.... All that is possible!!

    PS: My biggest 2 Novo wins were both online (although i play them more in landbased Casinos) - Over 4000x bet at Rumpel Wildspins and 165 free spins on Lucky Lady once resulting in over 1500x bet. If they're not in a good mood they can absolutely destroy you, but i still don't have a feeling that these slots are not fair.
     
  18. Aug 4, 2015
  19. fun4all

    fun4all Senior Member

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    Hoff with all your experience of both worlds can I ask what is your opinion on the retriggers thing?

    Take lucky ladys charm

    Do you think the feature is more likely to retrigger on a land based game or an online game? Or do you think they are identical

    Cheers.
     
  20. Aug 4, 2015
  21. hoff1985

    hoff1985 Meister Member mm1

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    Hm... I would say from my opinion over the long shot it feels the same. I've had often 1-2 retriggers as well online as in landbased casinos, sometimes 2-3 retriggers and very rarely 5+ retriggers... I dont' really feel a difference between landbased and online casinos... But i only come to that conclusion after playing them forever, i've had times i couldn't land a retrigger online and/or the opposite. I've had times i had 10 Novo bonus features at the landbased one evening and the best win was 25x bet. Novo is just a bitch. If these machines are not in a good mood you better run.
     
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  22. Aug 4, 2015
  23. me_and_ed

    me_and_ed Ueber Meister CAG MM

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    I had the same run of crappy luck, low rolling but just got a bunch of retriggers.
     

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  24. Aug 5, 2015
  25. magicjohnson

    magicjohnson shill account for Big Time Gaming

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    Riches of Ra has always been a go to balance booster for me low stake persistence = eventual big win! It's kept him in the game many a time, haven't played for a while but good to know if they've been changed!
     
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  26. Aug 5, 2015
  27. curremon

    curremon Senior Member PABnononaccred MM

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    i dont know but games have been totally horrible this month.. 120e give me 2min playtime
     
  28. Aug 5, 2015
  29. diva2000

    diva2000 Dormant account

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    Hi All,

    Was flipping through some recent posts and came across this one as well. Since Quasar offers Novomatic games, I did feel that some feedback would be appropriate and perhaps can offer some reassurance to some of you reading this. Keep calm, our Lady Charm really is Lucky! So a few deep breaths and here goes....

    I would like to start with - The games are not rigged or manipulated in anyway sort or form. There is no foul play nor is it possible to select or know how a game is going to behave in any given session. Players have a 50/50 chance of winning as well as losing irrelevant of how high or low you stake. We are a licensed casino and under strict scrutiny from the relevant authorities in order to provide fair game play to all our players.

    We can also confirm that all games are authentic and powered by GreenTube platform.

    I have probably mentioned this before but i am going to update you again in case some of you are reading this for the first time.

    Our Casino turnover payout ratio (RTP) is 95% and although i cannot anticipate other casinos and their specific slots, I can say that Novomatic slots do work differently from other slots.(slots such as NetEnt,MG,RTG etc) these slots are programmed to distribute the amounts to many slots and may give away small winnings - which we call low volatility). This may give plays the impression of regular wins but in reality it also means less chances of hitting a big pay out. This is now they would normally work.

    Novomatic slots are designed in a way that our players can win really big amounts. This is why so many players all over the world like these games. The opportunity is always there, and it can happen to anyone at any time.

    Our System generates winning combinations randomly and one may hit a jackpot placing his fist stake from the first spin. Every player has a fair chances of either winning or losing at a given session. There is no such thing as an expected session % payout but a global payout distributed randomly to any slot.
    Your winning chance is based on nothing else but pure luck.

    I hope that the above sheds some light and I would like to take the opportunity to mention that we always do our best to provide you with a safe a secure environment, fair play and all the possible help, assistance and advice that you may need.

    Best of luck at the tables. Happy Faces ppl even though it may have been a bad week, there is always next week and the glass is always 'half full instead of half empty'

    (hope i managed to pull out a few smiles with this reply)

    Regards,

    Rebecca.
     
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  30. Aug 6, 2015
  31. hoff1985

    hoff1985 Meister Member mm1

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    ...if i can jump in, if anyone feels he/she wants to try Novo Slots, i can recommend Quasar strongly. Although we swiss players can't play there anymore, i played there for years. And i've had 20+ cashouts and EVERY single cashout (including a 14'000 EUR win once!!) was paid the next day (including weekends). A very reliable awesome casino.... I know there are a lot good casinos, but my experience was incredible there... Now i always have to play Novo at the landbased casinos :-/
     
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  32. Aug 13, 2015
  33. CasinoTwitcher

    CasinoTwitcher Senior Member

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    Okay, so I feel that I have to fight back on these strange Novomatic accusations ;)

    Yesterday I had a 7h live stream session at Twitch (link to the whole session: You must register/login in order to see the link.)

    During that session, I played 4 Novomatic slots:

    Lord of the Ocean - Duration: 6-7 min
    Dolphin's Pearl - Duration: 27 min
    Indian Spirit - Duration: 17 min
    Flame Dancer - Duration: 7 min

    During those 4 session I had 3 super nice wins and quite a few re-triggers:

    Dolphin's Pearl
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    Indian Spirit
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    Flame Dancer
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    So this is my contribution to the "Novomatic is dead/rigged/not paying anymore" discussion ;)
     
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  34. Aug 13, 2015
  35. snotter999

    snotter999 Senior Member

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    Personally i've been loving the Novomatic games recently with quite a few very nice wins!
    Here is a couple.
    Book of Ra Deluxe and Lord of the Ocean def my fav 2 games in the last month
     

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  36. Aug 14, 2015
  37. SpinUk

    SpinUk Senior Member MM PABnonaccred

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    Had an insane run on Novomatic slots last night @ Energycasino.

    A 500 x and 1100 x stake on rumple wildspin.
    Lucky Lucks charm then pulled out a 180 (12 re-triggers) spin free bonus round paying 600x stake.

    However, when they are dead they are brutal - I rocked through 150 euros on minimum stakes a couple of nights before with no bonus rounds at all.
     
  38. Aug 15, 2015
  39. lotusch

    lotusch Noob Webby webby PABaccred mm2

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    Energy Casino and Quasar Gaming are both on my personal accredited list and this topic wasn't to accuse any casino of foul play,let that be clear.
    They are both good and trustworthy casino's to play at.
    I was just wondering why I haven't hit anything decent on Novo slots for a long time.
    I will probably keep playing them but will do so with caution. ;)

    On the other hand,I am just back from my holidays and went to a landbased casino one evening with some friends and I hit a 1250x stake win on Book of Ra in a local casino... :lolup::lolup: €1.50 stake...
    It was amazing and I walked away with just over €1500 profit that night.
    Also played some WMS but no luck there. :thumbsup:
     

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