No more RTG for me.

[AudiManinBoro]

From a slotplayers point of view I dont think there is a crucial difference in the payout ratio among the casinos of the mentioned software providers (RTG, Rival, MG, Playtech, 3Dice). Unless the player has a particular bonus advantage strategy, playing in any casino will always have a negative expectation value. Long losing streaks in high-variance games are normal and that goes not only for RTG. Its a matter of attitude. An optimistic player, who goes into an online casino and expects to "earn money", might have a wrong approach. What you can do, is to have fun depositing and betting reasonable amounts, and to find the cashout button if you hit something nice. I know I am a smartass, what I wanted to say is that probably RTG games are in the long run not bigger "moneytakers" than the games of other providers.

Cheers Balky

Hmm Take a bonus at an RTG and 99 times out of 100 you cannot GET to the cashout button, this is the problem, as i think many agree you get to a certain point into the wagering requirements and suddenly everything goes dead. Definatley computer controlled

 

[Balky]

Hmm Take a bonus at an RTG and 99 times out of 100 you cannot GET to the cashout button, this is the problem, as i think many agree you get to a certain point into the wagering requirements and suddenly everything goes dead. Definatley computer controlled

Audi, I agree with you, in RTG casinos I often busted after good hits before I could complete the WR, probably that really happens more often in RTG than in other casinos. For example my favorite RTG-game "Three Stooges" mostly makes my balance drop like a stone. Dont know why I still keep playing that game, for some reason I find it very thrilling.

Cheers Balky

 

[lauram]

As I stated in a post earlier, I was clearing out my rtg. Then today I had been waiting on a mg withdrawal. Well lets just say the means of deposit to them was not the means of the way they returned my wins. I will not complain as I knew this going in if you deposit using instadebit at a few of these casinos,
your wait for withdrawal can be up to 14 days. So this time took only 10 and went to my gawd help me moneybookers. So its 6 am and not awake yet and im thinking heck try rtg, now this was a nice win from mg so not so worried if I lost a deposit here or there. Started small just a 100 in. Lasted 12 minutes on 40 and 50 cent spins. My last 25 cents hit free spins that gave me 8 dollars.
There was at least 6 7 games that i went on autoplay 25 spins and paid nothing. Bored stupid and ticked at the lack of entertainment this provided.
Now I sit here thinking well why now that my mb account is funded did I not go off to the newer casinos. Such as titan and buzz. Later after I cool off and hit mg for a bit will see. I wonder if the pet store takes moneybookers, at least i would of had something in return that had some fun value in it.

 

[casinojack]

having used to wprk at an RTG shop

and consulted with a few ( im currently between jobs) there is a settign RTG has to set how "loose" the slots are. In vegas we see sometimes this is advertised, like 97%, or 99% even. I have yet to see an online casino post these settings. As a gambler, I would like to know, and will not work for another unless they allow me to do that. I also think, but not sure, the reason for streakiness, is a lot of operators play by making the games tighter and looser. They dont leave it alone.

Any rate, the softrware is solid, RTG is a good company. The operators, sadly, need to learn a lot about players...

 

[lauram]

I recall not long ago at a the race track slot machines. Had my oldest with me and one of the workers hit on her. Well as she was playing he walked over and nicely said follow me. I thought at first she was going to tell him f yourself, but instead she followed. He took her over to another set of slot machines. Now he says to her stay here for half hour and then move. We just adjusted this set of 12, and they are looser then the ones you are on. In half hour we tighten them up when players see they are hitting, and then we loosen another set up. Sure enough she hit 500 back to back on the same slot game.

 

[slotheadlizard]

Rtg

I recall not long ago at a the race track slot machines. Had my oldest with me and one of the workers hit on her. Well as she was playing he walked over and nicely said follow me. I thought at first she was going to tell him f yourself, but instead she followed. He took her over to another set of slot machines. Now he says to her stay here for half hour and then move. We just adjusted this set of 12, and they are looser then the ones you are on. In half hour we tighten them up when players see they are hitting, and then we loosen another set up. Sure enough she hit 500 back to back on the same slot game.

Wow, I totally believe it. From the last two post, it appears to me that casinos can basically do whatever they want, whenever they want. Although they want us to blindly believe this never goes on

 

[casinojack]

In vegas, all the loose slots are fron, where the most traffic is is...By law, if they claim 99%, it MUSt be 99%.

Most just say "Loose slots"

I cant think of one software provider that allows this setting over 97% though....93% is the tightest RTG can get. some of the rporviders allow this to get to 88%,which sucks....

I know RTG well, any other questions, i will share the inside scoop. Still have my manual ;-)

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

I agree, RTG's been really really bad for me for the last month or so and their "streakyness" does look suspicious.
I really like the games but started to feel like being robbed.
enough is enough.

 

[slotheadlizard]

Rtg

In vegas, all the loose slots are fron, where the most traffic is is...By law, if they claim 99%, it MUSt be 99%.

Most just say "Loose slots"

I cant think of one software provider that allows this setting over 97% though....93% is the tightest RTG can get. some of the rporviders allow this to get to 88%,which sucks....

I know RTG well, any other questions, i will share the inside scoop. Still have my manual ;-)

Cool, when you say you worked for RTG, was that on physical slot machines, or online software? Either way, do they work the same? Are some casinos turning off the wins when ritght after you make the playthough?

I've seen some theories and disputes with certain forum members about RTG fairness, or lack there of. A rep comes on and tries to explain variance, and a bunch of technical stuff that I really don't understand. Maybe you can shed some light in a slots for dummies (me) way
Thanks

 

[spike38]

.......

I must chime in here,also. I have now reached my anniversary.... 100 deposits in a row at Real Time gaming casinos without a single win or any play at all. I actually swore off these disgusting casinos two months ago after 70 losing sessions in a row at the AladdinsGold/whatever group but tonight my depositing method got screwed up so I couldn't deposit at the Microgaming casino I was planning on playing so I decided to take my 200 percent 2nd deposit bonus at some slug of a casino off the accredited list called Grande Vegas. If I remember correctly my initial deposit bonus here made it all the way up to 1/4 of the requirements.
Well, tonights session was even more disgusting. I actually counted over 800 plays on their slots and video poker games with only THREE winning plays. One paid $1.10 for a .20 wager and the other two $1 even.
I asked the live support every 5 minutes how this was possible and he just said "I don't know how that's possible, I can have tech support check it out for you." PLEASE, these places are clip joints plain and simple.
IMO, anyone who deposits at these dumps is out of their minds. I've seen gumball machines that payout more than these games.
I was just hoping to get a bit of relaxation tonight as I just found out 2 days ago that my mom has inoperable cancer and will be leaving me soon but these bastards took care of that as usual. I'm going back to wager on some ponies now as at least this is actual gambling unlike these RTG casinos.
100 deposits is enough of a test period to prove that this software is not working correctly. So happy anniversary to me and I can only hope that my experiences will steer some naive players away from the nightmare sessions these dumps have dealt me.

 

[Copperpot]

Can someone please explain to me.

Twice in a row now i've won close to $350 at the /beginning/ of my playthough at an RTG then suddenly, nothing! Twice in a row with the same amount of winnings.

What is it about letting you get your hopes up at the start? Why not towards the end of your wagering. It's fairly odd as the slots were literally dead, i was hitting bonus rounds with nothing in them, even re-triggers for 30 odd spins.

 

[slotheadlizard]

Spike

"I was just hoping to get a bit of relaxation tonight as I just found out 2 days ago that my mom has inoperable cancer and will be leaving me soon but these bastards took care of that as usual. I'm going back to wager on some ponies now as at least this is actual gambling unlike these RTG casinos"

That sucks, I'm sorry! I was once in your shoes. Good Luck

 

[TOC]

Well...

I've had it with RTG, tonight was the last straw. Deposited $40 with a 50% bonus so had $60 to play with, got up to 150 (1000 left to wager which is impossible at an RTG lol) & then hit nothing, being a low roller i didn't go above $2.00, but mostly my play was with $0.50/$0.25 but still this wasn't enough.

I've had 20+ deposits with various RTGs & the only withdrawal i've had, funnily enough was one with a free chip which i'm still waiting for.

So no more RTGs for me.

I think i've been fair & given them a fair chance but it's ridiculous the amount you have to spend & not even go above your original budget.

I recently played at an RTG casino and started with $91. US and cashed out for $2500. US. I honestly think this thead is just bad luck on your behalf, sorry!

 

[LaHutti]

I recently played at an RTG casino and started with $91. US and cashed out for $2500. US. I honestly think this thead is just bad luck on your behalf, sorry!

And I honestly think that you're the one person they need to tell that story, so that everyone else can see that it's possible to win, and keep filling their pockets

Congrats on your win

 

[AudiManinBoro]

I agree, from a poster with just one post who signed up this month Which RTG office did you say you worked in again?

 

[KasinoKing]

I actually counted over 800 plays on their slots and video poker games with only THREE winning plays. One paid $1.10 for a .20 wager and the other two $1 even.

I'm sorry, but that has to be total BS.
I'm not defending RTG - I find it as hard to make playthru & cash-out as anyone, but that statement is just ridiculous!

KK

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Lol KK , you would think so wouldnt you. It DOES seem ludicrous but ive had it myself before where ive made a fairly sizeable desposit, received a 100 % match bonus and not hit ONE bonus round out of the lot and on minimilistic bet levels too. Nothing surprises me with RTG anymore

 

[KasinoKing]

Lol KK , you would think so wouldnt you. It DOES seem ludicrous but ive had it myself before where ive made a fairly sizeable desposit, received a 100 % match bonus and not hit ONE bonus round out of the lot and on minimilistic bet levels too. Nothing surprises me with RTG anymore

Yes, but he didn't say he only had 3 bonus rounds, but just 3 winning plays!
Granted I believe he means 3 wins which were more than his bet size, but that is still ludicrously unlikely in 800 spins / deals IMO.

KK

 

[spike38]

RTG

Mr. KK, I respect your opinion as much as anyones but I wasn't exaggerating, believe me. I wish there was some way to have you check my play history to see for yourself . Oh by the way, no bonus rounds just three line pays.
I'm off to the hospital to sit with Mom. Ciao.

 

[Stovetopp]

Can someone please explain to me.

Twice in a row now i've won close to $350 at the /beginning/ of my playthough at an RTG then suddenly, nothing! Twice in a row with the same amount of winnings.
What is it about letting you get your hopes up at the start? Why not towards the end of your wagering. It's fairly odd as the slots were literally dead, i was hitting bonus rounds with nothing in them, even re-triggers for 30 odd spins.

The moral of this story! Try and fool these "rigged" system Don't take the bonus and cash out after the hit!! ) That is where an ewallet comes in handily No need for fees etc for small wins.

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

I recently played at an RTG casino and started with $91. US and cashed out for $2500. US. I honestly think this thead is just bad luck on your behalf, sorry!

good for you but how so many of us posted into this and other threads all of a sudden became so "unlucky"??
Yes, there is luck and there are also odds that so many deposits will yield a win.

 

[classymom]

I am on the side where lately RTG is the only software that I can win at. I have had 3 withdrawals in the last 2 months ( I know that's not much ) I have been playing at Rival ( not lately ) and have only 1 withdrawal in about a year and a half. I am not saying that the OP or others are not correct in their evaluation of RTG - just my personal experience RTG ( mainly Rushmore group) is the only software I can enjoy playing and have came out a little a head.

 

[casinojack]

Cool, when you say you worked for RTG, was that on physical slot machines, or online software? Either way, do they work the same? Are some casinos turning off the wins when ritght after you make the playthough?

I've seen some theories and disputes with certain forum members about RTG fairness, or lack there of. A rep comes on and tries to explain variance, and a bunch of technical stuff that I really don't understand. Maybe you can shed some light in a slots for dummies (me) way
Thanks

Well, no I worked for other RTG casinos, not RTG corporate. Some fair things you could not do if you wanted, such as make the games looser inf FUN mode, and change them for real money, you just cannot do. all the settings are system wide, but I will tell you some operators, do change this through the day. Dumb if you ask me, but they do. You might get caught in the middle sometimes...but so would everyone else!

 

[mclee321]

I really don't think the RTG system is rigged in anyway, and this is coming from someone who has never made a cashout at a RTG casino (in 5 years or so).

You factor in the random jackpot and the high variance of the slots, and the result is a very small percentage of happy winners.

RTG is never going to be a 'casual' place to play, you might hang around for a few hundred plays, but ultimately you are going down. Unless you hit a massive win, which as you can see from various posts and the screenshots thread does happen, you may be better off playing with a software type that provide slots with a greater range of variance types.

I hate to bang on about variance, but there you go.

 

[unicorn40]

You know i don't cash out much, but RTG is still my favorite. I also find that when you cash out, for myself anyways, i have a real LONG losing streak. My favorite one, i've had a really LONG losing streak, but i still "enjoy" playing there. My money seems to last longer than it does when i play at MG casinos.