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Question Netent Casino Question

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by zebedy, Jun 14, 2013.

    Jun 14, 2013
  1. zebedy

    zebedy No!!!! Im Spartacus MM webmeister

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    Im not sure if this has been asked before

    How do the RTP settings work at Netent casino's

    Are they like Microgamings, set in stone or like RTG where as the casino can ask the supplier to alter the settings
    or can individual casino's change these settings as and when they feel like it.

    I have watched several of Netents slots video's when a new slots released and there is an obvious difference between them and
    the end product,
     
  2. Jun 14, 2013
  3. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Well, first explain the difference you refer to?

    As far as I know they are like MG slots and play to the same TRTP which ever portal or skin supplies them via flash. I am 99% sure.

    The game files should be the same whichever Netent casino you play at.

    But please expand on what you mean by 'differences'.....
     
  4. Jun 14, 2013
  5. zebedy

    zebedy No!!!! Im Spartacus MM webmeister

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    Check out the video
    1 minute 50 seconds in they get 4 jacks on the top reel 3 spins in a row, i think anybody thats ever played the game
    would think this is not normal as with some of their other videos, top paying symbols on the top line over and over again
    it obvious Netent have altered the RTP deliberately in the videos to make them more entertaining to seem like they pay out more
    (I think this was confirmed by someone ages ago I cant find the thread though)
    so it looks like the payouts are not set in stone like MG but can be altered

    so that got me wondering who is doing the altering Netent or the casino,
    or once a game released to the casino the RTP cant be altered by anyone

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  7. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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  8. Jun 14, 2013
  9. ChopleyIOM

    ChopleyIOM Hearthstone Addict webby

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    Well the uploader is 'NetEntOfficial' - whose YouTube homepage is here:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  10. Jun 14, 2013
  11. zebedy

    zebedy No!!!! Im Spartacus MM webmeister

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    I dont think tin foil hats come into it :)
    Also im not saying there is anything wrong or underhanded going on,
    Im fairly sure its been stated somewhere that the video's are for entertainment value only

    Its been discussed in length and confirmed that MG slots once released cant be altered by anyone

    Its been discussed at length and confirmed that RTG slots can be altered by the casino by applying to RTG to change them to one of three settings every 6 months or so

    But i dont think its ever been discussed or confirmed about Netent slots,
    it would be nice to get some clarity on this, Maybe some of the reps can shed some light on this
     
  12. Jun 14, 2013
  13. Cryptic

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    Redbet's representative confirmed that the RTP for Netent slots is not adjustable in a thread sometime last year.
     
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  14. Jun 14, 2013
  15. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    Yeah, I thought so that's why I said I was 99% sure they were the same a MG in that respect.

    This video, if as Chopley states is for entertainment only, is fair enough. But I think it's slightly disingenuous of them because it's clearly an adulterated video and not a true reflection of how awful the slot actually is. Because the video is on YT and not on their site(s) they can get away with it. I don't like it though. As the OP says, it's utter BS.
     
  16. Jun 15, 2013
  17. PlayHippo

    PlayHippo I-Gaming Industry Representative

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    NetEnt can not be changed

    The % for Netent slots can not be changed by the operators it is the same payout % on all operators.

    However - NetEnt can replicate game videos - etc with different outcomes - I am pretty sure of.
    Same as when a new game is demod you can sometimes just click a button to enter the bonus game just to try it out without actually having to get the bonus symbols - but that is only in demo mode.

    When the games are released into production - operators can not adjust netent game payout %
     
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  18. Jun 15, 2013
  19. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    hi , can anyone clarify that the reels in free spins are pooled from a different set of reels in base game as i see this often that it seems 100% different with almost less top symbols ? ?
     
  20. Jun 15, 2013
  21. dave1888

    dave1888 Meister Member PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    Net-ent is the same at all casinos

    I know for a fact that Net-ent is same payout at all casinos one word Thunderfist I have won big on that one slot at comeon,mrgreen and at betvictor 3 independent casinos in no way associated. I have also won on bloodsuckers at dozens of casinos and the bonus rounds always as low or as high a payout at each then theres reel steel won on that at loads of casinos too this evidence should speak for itself then theres the games with 4x wild Trolls wild witches and Excalibur all have had same payout and chance of winning at each casino I've played them at(note these particular 3 are ideal for low rolling) ;)
     
  22. Jun 15, 2013
  23. ChopleyIOM

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    It seems like it to me on JATB, DoA has the same vibe about it as well.

    It's amazing how many low paying symbols are around on the reels once you get a load of wilds going on.
     
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  25. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    yer this was my conclusion so at least i know it just isnt me sensing this from some of the netent slots , maybe i should ask andy as hes pretty helpful or any rep ben maybe , would be nice to know _)
     
  26. Jun 16, 2013
  27. Balthazar

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    JatB switches to a different set of reels when there's a "walking wild" in the base game (more low paying symbols and no scatter).

    DoA also switches to a different set of reels for the bonus round (no scatter, a ton of low paying symbols and wilds are a lot more rare).
     
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  28. Jun 16, 2013
  29. LaHutti

    LaHutti Sr. ÜberUnter Ass. Man. webby PABnonaccred PABaccred

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    I've always considered these videos from NetEnt "Trailers", comparable to movie trailers, that also show the best scenes from a movie. Just because the trailer is good, doesn't mean the movie can't be crap ;) (I can prove it).
     
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  30. Jun 16, 2013
  31. mrmark21

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    Shouldnt online casinos be disclosing this kind of information in their help section though? Kinda misleading.
     
  32. Jun 16, 2013
  33. mrmark21

    mrmark21 Meister Member

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    Eggomatic was a great example of that ;)
     
  34. Jun 16, 2013
  35. Redbet-Andy

    Redbet-Andy Dormant account - New account: AndyB-MrGreen

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    The videos are just to highlight all of the possible outcomes and features of the game.
    They'd be a bit long if they tried to do that realistically. There's a trigger in the demo games to set "free spins on next spins", Bonus on next spin etc (no, sadly it doesn't exist when the games are live) that reps use to show us the games in development I assume the videos are made using these triggers.

    And no, you definitely can't alter the RTPs on Netent games.
     
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  36. Jun 16, 2013
  37. aceking123

    aceking123 Ueber Meister CAG PABnononaccred MM

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    andy whats the outcome of pooled spins in free spins , can you find out via netent wether all games are using a set of different reel strips compared to base game please ???
     
  38. Jun 23, 2013
  39. Redbet-Andy

    Redbet-Andy Dormant account - New account: AndyB-MrGreen

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    Sorry mate I missed this post. I shall enquire for you. Perhaps someone in the know can beat me to it though...
     
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