Net Deposits - what are yours

[satchnz]

You may have seen in the 1000x plus wins thread that I hit my first max win in the weekend (£1,000 win on a £0.25 bet) with bet365. After a £1,000 withdrawal this morning (which hit my bank account less than 30 seconds after requesting), I was wondering what my net deposits were with bet365. I’ve been very luck with this casino in the two years I’ve had an account with them, playing slots (max RTPs do help!).

My net deposits as at today are -£1,108. That is, I’ve withdrawn £1,108 more than I have deposited. I never deposit more than £50 at a time, and I rarely make more than one deposit in a weekend to bet365 (1 to 2 deposits per month mostly). Most of my bets are £0.20, and I never play a slot that has a min stake of more than £0.30.

If I say my average bet across all slots is £0.25, my net deposits are 4432x my average bet. Admittedly my 1k win has skewed my results, but I still would have been in profit regardless, and this is great for a couple of years of entertainment.

I’m sure my situation isn’t normal but interested to see if others have similar experiences (or not).

 

[goatwack]

Ooh look at Mr I Win Shedloads over there

 

[satchnz]

Ooh look at Mr I Win Shedloads over there

I never said I’ve won everywhere ?. Far from it unfortunately . But this is an anomaly I wanted to share!

 

[bamberfishcake]

I too am in profit. Without going through each account though I can't say how much. I go from month to month knowing I made or lost, and that's enough for me to know, as most months I have been lucky enough to make bank.

Since the tightening over bonus offers and free spins, money doesn't come as easy, but still in profit.

I wouldn't play much if I wasn't winning on a regular basis, hence why, in the long run, I think lowering RTP will shoot casinos in the foot. Not everyone is a problem gambler fighting to recoup losses - far from it. A big percentage of players will just stop playing when the fun stops (excuse the pun).

Although slots are random, how you manage your deposits and withdrawals is not.

Game choice is also another thing that helps - I also play max RTP.

Rarely will I allow myself (unless I play with lucky win funds and fancy a reckless spin or two) to get sucked into the bells and whistles of bonus hunting, that doesn't work as well for me, I let them come when they are ready.

These are things that, in my opinion, maximise my fun

Congrats on being a profitable slotter.

 

[Jono777]

I used to enjoy contributing to these sort of threads 5-6 years back as I could proudly talk about my profits and successful and controlled strategies.

However that was a long time ago and has totally changed, so I shall now bow out gracefully

Suppose greatly reduced play and the introduction of more and more rigged slots, along with the death of the casino bonus has not helped!

 

[goatwack]

I recall being up at Sky Vegas to the tune of around £1200 after a great hit & run DOA session a couple of years ago, and for the longest time my log-in 'profit reminder' would make very happy reading. Even when still at around the halfway mark I thought I'd cracked the code to slotting success - up until it started going back into minuses, through sheer will, determination and talent ?

I'd wager that overall in my slotting career I'd likely have been up a fair whack, were it not for chasing bad sessions, wanting to repeat previous successes, or simply wanting to keep the feelgood factor aflame. Realistically, I ought to be up a few grand across the board, but am probably down several K instead, because once you win at a certain site, you start believing in your own invulnerability. Alas, this is what you get for playing High Variance games almost exclusively, and for being a greedy c*** ?

This is where I traditionally always favoured bookies, because as mentioned, if hitting big, you could withdraw in a flash without general KYC dickery and (mostly) no pending. Bet365, Betfair, all adhered to no-nonsense payouts, and if anything, you'd find me 'less in the red' with those than at other casinos, possibly even in profit. A lot of a session's fate hangs on a casino's ability to pay out quickly, and I have no doubt that impacted my profit/ loss ratio. Bastards.

 

[satchnz]

Ok so it’s not so uncommon then. Given how brutal slots can be these days I thought it might be less common, but happy to hear others ahead at some places too.

I do play in a very controlled manner which may be contributing to my success (at b365 at least).

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Mine are complete carnage, but that’s what you get from playing Bonanza all day every day!

Thankfully I no longer do!!!

 

[slotmaster]

I used to enjoy contributing to these sort of threads 5-6 years back as I could proudly talk about my profits and successful and controlled strategies.

However that was a long time ago and has totally changed, so I shall now bow out gracefully

Suppose greatly reduced play and the introduction of more and more rigged slots, along with the death of the casino bonus has not helped!

ya it is not a good idea these days,lol

 

[Downsman]

More into sports betting now, probably depo 20-50 quid a week to my bookmaker.
In profit for the last two months.

Only play slots if there's a few quid left over come Sunday.

 

[justdoit]

You may have seen in the 1000x plus wins thread that I hit my first max win in the weekend (£1,000 win on a £0.25 bet) with bet365. After a £1,000 withdrawal this morning (which hit my bank account less than 30 seconds after requesting), I was wondering what my net deposits were with bet365. I’ve been very luck with this casino in the two years I’ve had an account with them, playing slots (max RTPs do help!).

My net deposits as at today are -£1,108. That is, I’ve withdrawn £1,108 more than I have deposited. I never deposit more than £50 at a time, and I rarely make more than one deposit in a weekend to bet365 (1 to 2 deposits per month mostly). Most of my bets are £0.20, and I never play a slot that has a min stake of more than £0.30.

If I say my average bet across all slots is £0.25, my net deposits are 4432x my average bet. Admittedly my 1k win has skewed my results, but I still would have been in profit regardless, and this is great for a couple of years of entertainment.

I’m sure my situation isn’t normal but interested to see if others have similar experiences (or not).

For now Bet365 and Betway are only max RTP casinos

 

[satchnz]

For now Bet365 and Betway are only max RTP casinos

Sadly Betway are not a max RTP casino. Take the recent release 777 Surge by Microgaming. It is set to 94% at Betway vs 96% at MrQ. I think you will find that MrQ is the only other UK licensed casino with max RTP.

 

[The Viking]

For now Bet365 and Betway are only max RTP casinos

Correct me if im wrong but i think Winz is also still on max settings

 

[justdoit]

Sadly Betway are not a max RTP casino. Take the recent release 777 Surge by Microgaming. It is set to 94% at Betway vs 96% at MrQ. I think you will find that MrQ is the only other UK licensed casino with max RTP.

not sure other games I only deposit like £100 play wanted DOW is max RTP I check... they only give bonus if you use visa card payment

 

[Buffalo Bill]

Since 2015 I’m 10k up at videoslots. Never deposit more than £10 a time. I have been very lucky with the freebies though.

 

[justdoit]

Since 2015 I’m 10k up at videoslots. Never deposit more than £10 a time. I have been very lucky with the freebies though.

I am up on 21 casino 12k since I open my account in 2018

 

[sufferinsilence]

No easy way to check for me but I'd be happy if I'm break-even on slots. Used to record everything on a spreadsheet but I gave that up as it led to chasing losses sometimes.

But the way the slots have been going in the past year I wouldn't be surprised if I'm in the minus.

 

[satchnz]

Holy shit guys! Nice one!

 

[satchnz]

not sure other games I only deposit like £100 play wanted DOW is max RTP I check... they only give bonus if you use visa card payment

Uh huh…

 

[satchnz]

Correct me if im wrong but i think Winz is also still on max settings

It may be but it’s not available in the UK as far as I can see.

 

[justdoit]

Sky Vegas Casino I only do small deposits to play captain Venture I am like £1600 up, only casino I am down is Videoslots, I try DOA2 on VS many time to bring my account back to 0000 no luck yet

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[justdoit]

No easy way to check for me but I'd be happy if I'm break-even on slots. Used to record everything on a spreadsheet but I gave that up as it led to chasing losses sometimes.

But the way the slots have been going in the past year I wouldn't be surprised if I'm in the minus.

you should have history it show all u deposit and withdraw

 

[sufferinsilence]

you should have history it show all u deposit and withdraw

Maybe in UKGC or MGA territory but most bookies and casinos here I can only see back upto 1 year

 

[Kroffe]

I feel confident i did the math right, but if there is a mistake there im sure someone much smarter than me will come along and tell me how wrong i am.

Cheers Homer, i had feeling it would.

Amazed as always over how quick you perform these checks.
People that say you are lazy have issues.

 

[Kroffe]

On a more serious note, im down on my main casinos, (Videoslots, Nordicbet & Vera&Joh)
And id say 90% of my money & play goes to them, which makes it more likely will be i up on casinos i play alot less at.

Win a couple hundred at x casino and withdraw, but very little if any of that money will go back to casino x, if i use it for gambling the main sites will eat most if not all of it.

Im not saying its impossible, but its incredibly unlikely that i will ever be able to push Doa or WTB over 100% rtp on the main sites.
Im above the Trtp on two of them, but pushing the rtp the last 3% to get it over 100 is probably about 20-30 average wildlines, without any losses or added spins between them,getting 10-15 widlines in a row all paying 6000x would also work, but while its technically possible its so unlikely it might just aswell be called impossible.

I can of course increase my overall rtp on the casino to over 100% by just increasing my betsize and getting some big wins, but doing the same on WTB would be alot harder.

TLDR: Doing too many spins on the same slot makes the rtp catch up to you.

 

[satchnz]

Re-reading some of the responses here, I wonder how much of the profit for the people who are up was achieved more than 2-3 years ago when slotting wasn’t as brutal as it is now? I’ve only been playing online slots for the past two years so that’s the period that my gains were made (albeit at a max RTP casino to be fair).

 

[satchnz]

TLDR: Doing too many spins on the same slot makes the rtp catch up to you.

This. I never sink more than £5 (net loss) in any one slot in one session.

 

[Downsman]

I started off as a sports better, and then switched to mostly slots about the time I joined CM.
Down on slots by a lot, but since going back to sports at the start of this year I'm in profit.
Make of that what you will.

 

[goatwack]

Re-reading some of the responses here, I wonder how much of the profit for the people who are up was achieved more than 2-3 years ago when slotting wasn’t as brutal as it is now? I’ve only been playing online slots for the past two years so that’s the period that my gains were made (albeit at a max RTP casino to be fair).

You've picked a bad time to be slotting, what you'll find is that the scene's shifted so far towards High- Variance games and big wins in the last couple of years with the likes of NLC, and so those fairly new to this malarkey will have a very skewed outlook on the whole thing.

This was preceded by BTG's stranglehold on the market, and the gradual conditioning of players that the big wins are there, you just have to wait for them a while longer (most are still awaiting those rockstar wonderhits)

Prior to that, things were mostly Medium- Variance or the higher end of that. Netent were dabbling in that concept of merging higher variance maths with visual fidelity, but titles like Planet of the Apes turned out to be pants!

By and large, 5-8 years ago it was almost impossible not to get ahead on slots. Then it came down to the individual's desire to chase bigger amounts or settle for eg double or triple your starting balance, it was not uncommon. One of the most brutal slots was DOA, and that's mild in comparison to today's wallet- busters. But two or three years ago? the milk had already long turned

 

[bamberfishcake]

TLDR: Doing too many spins on the same slot makes the rtp catch up to you

p.s. someone should post such warnings in the Bonanza thread - Bonanza has not been nerfed, its just the RTP catching up with them

 

[satchnz]

Thanks @goatwack. It’s interesting to get an idea of how things used to be.

I always thought that all online casinos were completely dodgy with games impossible to win on. That’s until I was introduced to a UK bookies’ online casino which changed my perspective on the industry. Then I learned there were still loads of dodgy joints out there.

Incidentally, I tallied up all of my deposits and all of my withdrawals across 19 online casinos since Feb 2021 (this is when I first started recording my play). I was shocked to learn that I am £12 in profit. That’s a shedload of lockdown and wet weekend entertainment hours for free. Although I do wonder, with how brutal slots can be, whether I’d have been happier on average just to stare out of the bloody window instead…

 

[justdoit]

Re-reading some of the responses here, I wonder how much of the profit for the people who are up was achieved more than 2-3 years ago when slotting wasn’t as brutal as it is now? I’ve only been playing online slots for the past two years so that’s the period that my gains were made (albeit at a max RTP casino to be fair).

I use to play WHG a lot 21casino dreamvegas and casimba I am up on 3 of them, and most of the big win come from 2-3 years ago.. Dream vegas I was up like 7k casimba like 6k , now they start to go down lol soon I will start losing, I never won big on Videoslot and use to play a lot... Rizk Calzon was good casino but they not in UK any longer

 

[sufferinsilence]

I started off as a sports better, and then switched to mostly slots about the time I joined CM.
Down on slots by a lot, but since going back to sports at the start of this year I'm in profit.
Make of that what you will.

If you have knowledge on a niche market betting will atleast be the great equalizer. I'm up 1000s on it lifetime but since about a year ago significantly lowered the stakes, due to limits and also because I would at times just squander the winnings on slots anyway which would only stress me out...

I might not have huge wins anymore but gone are the days of massive losses too.

 

[andysbetting1187]

I am up at ABC but have since self excluded and closed my account after having another (03rd time this year) EDD check because i deposited more than 5k in a month (I understand they need to do it, but drew the line at constantly having to send bank statements and pay slips so I have unfortunatley parted ways with L&L; all credit to @L&L-Jan though who has constantly helped me when i have had issues.

Up at leo vegas about 3k this year but have self excluded from there as well

Not many more places for me to play at online (had horrendous experiences with sky, 888 etc.) so just stick to live play now

 

[justdoit]

new update lol roulette got me up 7k

 

[hubbadubbadingdong]

My VS Slots since Jan 1st till today

 

[Gavashy]

Holy shit guys! Nice one!

I've just checked on the 3 casinos I play at too regular and I'm so glad you made this topic, now considering a very long break cheers buddy?

 

[satchnz]

I’ve been with bet365 exactly three years this month and here are my net deposits (strictly 0.20 - 0.30 betsize).

It’s been a very successful relationship since I play for fun and not to (ahem) win.

MrQ has lifetime net deposits from me of £307 (same bet sizes as above) in approximately half the time and deposit/withdrawal amounts above.

Slots make up 99.5% of my gambling activities.

I’m up over 0.5 Ethereum on one of the three crypto places I’ve recently started frequenting. The other two I am down maybe the equivalent of £1,000 if that.

Pretty satisfied overall.

 

[Gavashy]

I’ve been with bet365 exactly three years this month and here are my net deposits (strictly 0.20 - 0.30 betsize).

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It’s been a very successful relationship since I play for fun and not to (ahem) win.

MrQ has lifetime net deposits from me of £307 (same bet sizes as above) in approximately half the time and deposit/withdrawal amounts above.

Slots make up 99.5% of my gambling activities.

I’m up over 0.5 Ethereum on one of the three crypto places I’ve recently started frequenting. The other two I am down maybe the equivalent of £1,000 if that.

Pretty satisfied overall.

Must say your a very lucky guy don't want to know what I'm down ? back to poker for me now slots are just dead unless you can bonus buy which we can't in the uk near enough impossible to win with many slots 500 spins without a bonus is a very common thing for me, so just the odd 200 deposit for me once a month and the rest on poker. Hope your winning streak continues!