My online slots videos (plus UK AWPs)

[dunover]

Choppers, do you have any plans to make another tour of pubs with a few bandits on there? Would love to see you rowing a B3 and moaning like a bitch about how bad the RTP's are compared to online. I would also like it to be a full blown monsoon again too also There must be some absolute gems in the pubs knocking about over there, also the arcades must have some nice bits in too.

They are really good videos as I can just feel how much you hate modern pub fruits in that video. Could you also do a video on the Fair Play campaign, that would bring some memories.

Rob

Was that the 'fair play' campaign where the chap got article in the press about how (shock! horror!) the UK fruit machine gambles were rigged and pre-determined?
That players didn't have the same chance of winning each spin on these compensated pieces of shit? I cannot believe how this country still allows compensated AWPs which can pay as little as 70%

A good AWP:

 

[Jory]

I cannot believe how this country still allows compensated AWPs which can pay as little as 70%

I still can't believe how they have slot machines for kids.

That's how I got started. There were 7-8 arcades and from the age of 8 I would spend my weekends there. I was that kid who comes over and tells you how to play the game in the hope of getting a £0.50 reward.

Funny thing is, I made a profit since my parents never gave me pocket money. I went in with zero and would check every coin pusher and every fruit machine for coins that fell out and forgot to be collected. I would then use that money on whatever machine i knew to be due to pay from watching others play. Like 20% of £0.20p machines had 0.5 credits from people putting in an odd number, so my logic was if I put in £0.10 to make one spin, I'm getting 50% extra.

It almost feels like the videoslots freeroll equivalent when you're an adult.

Without a doubt, my best ever experience was when i discovered a faulty "hi-low" poker machine. It was right next to the store room and I noticed when the door hit the machine, the credits would jump up. I would stand there waiting to withdraw the cash, then decided to experiment. If you hit the machine hard enough it would register £1-£3 in the credits and these machines allowed you to press the "Hi" button to withdraw.

For 5-6 weeks I cleaned out every coin from that machine until the error was fixed. I remember i used to wear these adidas track suit bottoms and the weight of the pound coins had me walking home holding them up like a clown.

If anyone happened to visit Newcastle County Down back in the 90's most likely I watched you playing.

 

[JGslots]

Was that the 'fair play' campaign where the chap got article in the press about how (shock! horror!) the UK fruit machine gambles were rigged and pre-determined?
That players didn't have the same chance of winning each spin on these compensated pieces of shit? I cannot believe how this country still allows compensated AWPs which can pay as little as 70%

A good AWP:

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I could be wrong here Dunover... BUT I think that chap was our Chopley here that started the campaign and website, that forced manufactures to put a sticker on machines that still, to this day states "This machine, may at times offer the player a chance where there is little or no chance of success". This all stemmed off an emulated game that was proven to always lose in a certain situation to the point that the code on machine said something daft like "always lose" or something along those lines.

I cant complain about compensated 'AWP's', they've basically been my source of income for the last 10-12 years. I was very fortunate enough to have stumbled across a fair few methods on some games over the years, my most favourite one taking thousands upon thousands off of William Hill's FOBTs over the course of 18 months on the Mega Pots game until they finally realised they was getting tanked left right and centre by everyone lol. Sure the %'s are low on these games, but due to their very nature of being 'compensated', there is always a possibility of being a method or value extraction on a compensated game.

The latest scum techniques UK land based compensated slot manufactures are doing is making the machine very 'dead' from a factory reset, which basically means the machine runs below its target payout percentage for a long period of time, this alone isn't too horrendous, but combine it with the fact that SG Gaming/Astra like to undertake regular RAM resets on their T7, T8 compensated games, smacks of foul play. As basically, just as the machines are starting to play closer to their target % then a site reset is done. This is also done in bookmakers like William Hill, Ladbrokes and Corlals etc.

Pub Fruit FOBT compensated games like Rocky, Bit it or Win It, Snakes and Ladders, Lets Play Darts and Trail Blazer are all installed 'dead' from reset, it is literally impossible to win until the machine has taken £100+
This is great business if you're William Hill whom operate over 4000 terminals containing such games, they simply cannot lose money from reset. This basically is a result though from learning from their mistakes, as said games in the past were installed with 'value' from reset and you could extract value, traveling from one site to another, which obviously is the opposite to what happens now.

I assume there is no law or guidelines to stipulate how the game plays from a reset, just goes to show that they REALLY don't like losing money.

Rob

 

[dunover]

OK, I need a reminder on this, can somebody dig it out - I distinctly remember in the early noughties a guy photographed in some national papers pointing out the rigged hi-low gambles they had proven via emulation programmes. Rob rings a bell, don't tell me it was that Manc bloke?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

You're referring to the 'Fairplay Campaign'. Stuart Campbell headed up the UK side of things and I progressed it on the IOM. Stu did all the media stuff so it was him who got on the telly and gave interviews to the newspapers and whatnot.

It all happened throughout 2003 and 2004.

In the end 'all' we got out of it was a sticker, but as JGSlots notes above, for the first time ever compensated AWPs were required to inform players via a clearly readable notice that the gambles are rigged.

The founding complaint of the Fairplay Campaign wasn't so much that AWPs were compensated, everyone already knew that. What we really took exception to was something routinely being presented as a 'gamble' that was actually a pre-determined lose. So for example on the standard hi/lo reel present on many AWPs, where you're shown a number and then invited to gamble your win by guessing that the next number will be higher or lower, we'd always assumed that there was in fact a correct choice, and if the player guessed correctly, the gamble would be won. Using emulation, we were for the first time ever able to 'rewind time', and see what happened if the player chose the other option.

What we discovered was that there was often no correct choice. Let's say you have a 2 to gamble on, and choose higher, the reel spins in a 1 and you lose. Prior to emulation, the assumption had always been that if the player were brave enough to choose to go lower than the 2 in that situation, a 1 would be spun in and the gamble would be won. However, using the emulator to 'rewind time' it was revealed that if the player went lower than the 2, the machine would just spin in a number between 3 and 12, and the gamble would still be lost.

A gamble isn't a gamble if it can't be won, it'd be like placing £10 on red on a roulette wheel, and then as soon as the wheel started spinning the whole wheel turned black.

The real smoking gun was a Barcrest club machine called 'Club Tropicana', if you added an engineer's debug LED display to the machine in the emulator (i.e. something that wasn't present on the real machine), whenever a hi/lo win climb was activated the hidden display would show LIMIT 5 or LIMIT 3 or LIMIT 7 etc etc, where the number after LIMIT showed at which point on the hi/lo climb the machine would cheat you on the gamble.

 

[Balthazar]

Hey Chops, I just watched the "Gambling Low Ebbs #1" that you referred to in your last video. I don't know if you posted it here but if you haven't I think you should...it was pretty good.

I see that you uploaded that back in May, do you still plan to make a part II?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

It's certainly my intention to but as I hope you can understand, they're not the easiest of memories to dredge up and recite, and require a certain state of mind and degree of 'lubrication' to make the recording possible. (Part #1 was an absolute bombsite as recorded, I'm amazed I was able to salvage it in the edit, although it was still pretty choppy and disjointed, it was actually sat on my hard disk for a couple of months before I even made an attempt to get an edit done on it.)

I've got four more of them I'd like to get done at some point, (i.e. the events that each video will cover are already clear in my mind), but I'm not going to force them, one evening I'll just feel ready to take another one on and I'll get it done.

I'm pretty sure I linked Part #1 earlier in this thread, probably around the time it was uploaded so quite a few pages back!

 

[mack341]

It's certainly my intention to but as I hope you can understand, they're not the easiest of memories to dredge up and recite, and require a certain state of mind and degree of 'lubrication' to make the recording possible. (Part #1 was an absolute bombsite as recorded, I'm amazed I was able to salvage it in the edit, although it was still pretty choppy and disjointed, it was actually sat on my hard disk for a couple of months before I even made an attempt to get an edit done on it.)

I've got four more of them I'd like to get done at some point, (i.e. the events that each video will cover are already clear in my mind), but I'm not going to force them, one evening I'll just feel ready to take another one on and I'll get it done.

I'm pretty sure I linked Part #1 earlier in this thread, probably around the time it was uploaded so quite a few pages back!

I enjoyed [ in an interesting/riveting way] that video so much I recently watched it a 2nd time, and the 'chundered' moment caught me out again

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Surprised this one got past the YouTube copyright bosses, it's got 6 claims against it but none of them come with any viewing restrictions. Please note that after the initial 13 minute narrated intro it's just a trance montage of features and then a stats screen at the end.

I was going to have this session at 3Dice anyway as I'm trying to build my VIP status back up again, so I thought I may as well just Bandicam the features whilst I was working through the slots. In the end I got several hours of slotting out of it (about 5-6 hours, in fact).

I'm not much motivated to play other slots at other casinos TBH, so this 3Dice session isn't 'forcing out' anything else. If I hadn't done this I'd have just played The Last Of Us Remastered on my PS4 Pro.

 

[Jory]

Spinning higher or lower than any number on the old AWP or Hi-Low poker machines were never based on the real odds, even those who played the games knew it was pre-determined.

For example, if you got 4 of a kind in poker with the chance to double your win, choosing higher or lower--If the card is a Queen or 3, everyone already knew the outcome was a lose 80% of the time. Yet people continued to play these games anyway...

A savvy gambler could also use this allusion to their advantage. If you hit a 4 of a kind and the game gave you a 6, naturally given that a queen or 3 loses 80% of the time, who would ever be crazy enough to gamble on a 6 which is surely going to lose?

In reality I always felt that the card shown during the double-up gamble was never accurate.

So many times I forced a payout by doing what the machine didn’t expect by gambling on a 6 across the board. It would then "freeze" for a second, always like it was checking the script as to wtf is going on before giving the outcome.

Do you know @ChopleyIOM if there have ever been any true emulations of the Hi-Low poker games? I would really love to know exactly how the outcome would change.

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Would also love to see a video on Monopoly 60. I didn't have the knowledge of you or @vinylweatherman when it came to fruit machine, but that was one game I could always empty. After the game was removed, I tired the same tactic in a new arcade, but the machine played completely differently. I'm guessing the "cheat" I discovered was patched out..

P.S how are you enjoying The Last Of Us?

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Do you know @ChopleyIOM if there have ever been any true emulations of the Hi-Low poker games? I would really love to know exactly how the outcome would change.

P.S how are you enjoying The Last Of Us?

TBH Jory I don't remember ever seeing one of the Hi/Lo Poker games in the emulator, I know the exact machines you're talking about though. It's possible they run on some obscure, unemulated tech as they were video screen based. I'll have a look though

I'm loving The Last Of Us, not rushing through it, and I generally just play for 45-90 minutes at a time, and thoroughly explore every area before I move on. TBH it gets a bit much sometimes, the world is so brutal and oppressive and the clickers/infected properly shit me up! Lovely to be able to play it upscaled and at 60FPS as well, thanks to the Pro.

Thanks for pushing me into finally playing the game, it's been on my 'need to play this' list for far too long!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Nothing online slots related for this video, but quite an interesting old UK AWP for those who are curious. This machine got a 'rechip' to fix an issue whereby one of the features was true skill and the machine didn't block the player getting to it, a skilful enough player could empty the machine.

The layout was originally released with the rechipped ROMs so we weren't able to try the emptier, but a chum of mine managed to unearth earlier, unchipped ROMs, so I decided to have a go at the emptier



Also a link to the Bonanza Is Rubbish video from a few days ago, so that all the links are in this thread. (It's also in the main Bonanza thread.)

 

[The Viking]

Well this was my fruit machine when i was a kid

 

[ChopleyIOM]

More of dunover's favourites, compensated AWPs!

Also a bit of a last-minute rush job of a video this week, I'll laying the blame firmly at the door of The Last Of Us Remastered.

Got to be honest there's not much in the world of online slots that's massively motivating me to play, although I'll do another session for the channel at some point. (Part of the problem is there's just so much choice these days, it's like flicking through the lists on Netflix and Amazon Prime for 30 minutes and deciding at the end of it there's too much stuff to choose from and then reading a book instead).

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Lots of feature buys on the new Genie Jackpots Megaways slot, with some relaxing 3Dice Video Poker running at the same time.

 

[Jory]

I'm loving The Last Of Us, not rushing through it, and I generally just play for 45-90 minutes at a time, and thoroughly explore every area before I move on. TBH it gets a bit much sometimes, the world is so brutal and oppressive and the clickers/infected properly shit me up! Lovely to be able to play it upscaled and at 60FPS as well, thanks to the Pro.

Thanks for pushing me into finally playing the game, it's been on my 'need to play this' list for far too long!

Glad to hear you’re enjoying it.

Your point of value for entertainment has really stuck with me. I've since closed all my casino accounts. Even though I was winning and mathematically I would be a winner till the end of this year no matter what on account of having spent the winnings, I just don't like the stress involved.


I know there is this attitude were video games are for teenagers and I'm "too old" for them, but there is a good reason why the video game industry is now above both the music and film industries. It's not because every kid is stealing their mums credit card. Technology has come a long way and the ability to not simply watch a story, but put you in control of it can give a much more powerful and enjoyable experience.

It's that feeling when you experience something great and you want to grab someone saying *you have to try this* which was behind me recommending that game.

 

[mack341]

Glad to hear you’re enjoying it.

Your point of value for entertainment has really stuck with me. I've since closed all my casino accounts. Even though I was winning and mathematically I would be a winner till the end of this year no matter what on account of having spent the winnings, I just don't like the stress involved.


I know there is this attitude were video games are for teenagers and I'm "too old" for them, but there is a good reason why the video game industry is now above both the music and film industries. It's not because every kid is stealing their mums credit card. Technology has come a long way and the ability to not simply watch a story, but put you in control of it can give a much more powerful and enjoyable experience.

It's that feeling when you experience something great and you want to grab someone saying *you have to try this* which was behind me recommending that game.

Jory how are you finding the ps4 pro and will you be getting red dead redemption 2 when it releases?

 

[Jory]

Jory how are you finding the ps4 pro and will you be getting red dead redemption 2 when it releases?

PS4 pro is great. However if you or anyone else owns a basic ps4, it's still almost just as good.

The only reason I upgraded was because of the new TV and the ability to play in higher resolution. All I can say is you will be surprised how quickly your brain adjusts to the higher quality and how playing on my old setup was just as much fun.

The one game I feel really shows off the upgrade is Resident Evil 7. With the 4k and HDR10 plus surround sound and ps4 pro combined, that is the one game I own which really shows off those enhancements.

As for Red Dead Redemption, a bit like @ChopleyIOM that game has been on my list to try but never seemed to get around to it.

I just bought a "Playstation Now" subscription which allows you to play over 500 games so I'll have a look to see if Red Dead Redemption is one of them!

That subscription feels a bit like Amazon Video, sure you can watch over 500 videos, but 95% of them are bad so it's about trying to find the ones that are good.

 

[mack341]

PS4 pro is great. However if you or anyone else owns a basic ps4, it's still almost just as good.

The only reason I upgraded was because of the new TV and the ability to play in higher resolution. All I can say is you will be surprised how quickly your brain adjusts to the higher quality and how playing on my old setup was just as much fun.

The one game I feel really shows off the upgrade is Resident Evil 7. With the 4k and HDR10 plus surround sound and ps4 pro combined, that is the one game I own which really shows off those enhancements.

As for Red Dead Redemption, a bit like @ChopleyIOM that game has been on my list to try but never seemed to get around to it.

I just bought a "Playstation Now" subscription which allows you to play over 500 games so I'll have a look to see if Red Dead Redemption is one of them!

That subscription feels a bit like Amazon Video, sure you can watch over 500 videos, but 95% of them are bad so it's about trying to find the ones that are good.

haha I think I've got a basic ps one and sega mega drive gathering dust somewhere in my parent's loft my pc has given me some modern gameplay with titles like skyrim, assassin's creed black flag etc.. but it's showing its age now
I know what you mean about graphics and improved resolution it just becomes the normal standard to your eyes after a while. I do enjoy the sound in games, the audio in skyrim has got some great music and battle sound affects.
I am in the market for a new console, and think the ps4 pro is starting to leave the xbox behind for exclusive games, but I do like the xbox's built in 4k player for movies, so in a month or two I'm probably going to get the xbox one s as a stop gap.
I had the amazon prime for the free trial and struggled to find anything decent to watch, it seemed to be devoid of great movies, it was more amazon sub prime

 

[goatwack]

The XBox One X is appealing but one has to wonder about the brand. We have more and more mid-generation upgrades, unlike say the PS2 which lasted in excess of 10 years

It does strike me as a multimedia beast, mind, and one best purchased with the accompanying televisual setup. My humble 48" Bravia would do it no justice whatsoever. And the price!! £450 still!!

 

[lotusch]

Lots of feature buys on the new Genie Jackpots Megaways slot, with some relaxing 3Dice Video Poker running at the same time.

I stopped watching after 3 feature buys mate. Not because your video is bad but because BTG annoys the sh*t out of me.
2x 6 scatter trigger and such horrendous returns.

I played this last week on €1.00 spins and lost €200.00 in less than 40 minutes.
Not bought any bonuses as I find this a bull sh*t feature that should not be legal, but that's another story.

In the 200 Euro I did not trigger a single bonus organically.
Had a few times the genie popped up for a mini bonus but biggest hit on that was 44x.
RTP for that session at Videoslots, a whopping 45.85%, I just checked it.

Everything with BTG in the credits and where BTG has any influence on seems designed to just incur mega losses.
Very close to ignore them completely. They are not worth the hassle.
I only get annoyed.

The original Genie Jackpots was 100 times nicer to play.

 

[Jory]

haha I think I've got a basic ps one and sega mega drive gathering dust somewhere in my parent's loft my pc has given me some modern gameplay with titles like skyrim, assassin's creed black flag etc.. but it's showing its age now

I still have my Atari 2600 in the attic. I imagine it doesn't work now but I remember how much I loved it so I like to hold onto it.

Oh man, black flag was my "quitting smoking" game. I played it none stop as a distraction for the cravings to wear off.. I even 100% which sounds crazy. The best thing about that game are the shanties. Loved so much listening to them as I'm from Ireland so it was like good olé traditional drinking songs.

I found this real life version which I'm sure will only appeal to the minority.

 

[Balthazar]

Lots of feature buys on the new Genie Jackpots Megaways slot, with some relaxing 3Dice Video Poker running at the same time.

I have not played the Genie Megaways and after watching this video I can say that I will not play it. I don't like it for many reasons and one of them being that giving the player the ability to buy bonuses completely kills the point of playing the base game (like Extra Chilli and White Rabbit) and I'm not a fan of that. That's not how slots should be played IMO.

Also it's pointless to have Megaways if you keep the number of ways very low and don't fully use its potential. Might as well have a fixed number of ways.

One more thing...there must be some huge wins hidden in those bonus rounds because the White Rabbit bonus also costs 100x to buy and there are 3000x, 4000x and even 5000x wins in there while the "floor" is nowhere near as low and the one on Genie Jackpots. I'm not sure where the money is but it has to be somewhere.

 

[mack341]

I still have my Atari 2600 in the attic. I imagine it doesn't work now but I remember how much I loved it so I like to hold onto it.

Oh man, black flag was my "quitting smoking" game. I played it none stop as a distraction for the cravings to wear off.. I even 100% which sounds crazy. The best thing about that game are the shanties. Loved so much listening to them as I'm from Ireland so it was like good olé traditional drinking songs.

I found this real life version which I'm sure will only appeal to the minority.

Yeah the shanties were a nice authentic touch, I enjoyed the sailing and ship battles but I think they could have given you a bit more to do on your ship. I got about halfway through the game and then suddenly just stopped playing it, been meaning to go back to complete it but the controls will take me a while to master again . Where it did confuse me somewhat was when it switches to the 'abstergo' modern day offices to make you complete some odd task Amazingly it only cost me £2 to download the game from ubisoft's website, that is one of the good things about pc gaming, the bargain older titles you can pick up if you're prepared to wait a bit, skyrim also only cost £2.49. So that was over a hundred hours of entertainment for less than a fiver.

 

[sufferinsilence]

I noticed we have a sister site of 3Dice in Belgium called Red Dice with most of the same slots like Enchanted Spins but disguised as dice (licensing law stuff). I've signed up and will give it a go soon, maybe I'll have some more luck on here than I've been having on the regular slots in the past weeks. Noticed they have alot of free tournaments, and the welcome bonus is like on Videoslots.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

That's awesome, it's exactly the same games but with the reel symbols changed to dice and the word 'Dice' added to the game names

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I know there is this attitude were video games are for teenagers and I'm "too old" for them, but there is a good reason why the video game industry is now above both the music and film industries. It's not because every kid is stealing their mums credit card. Technology has come a long way and the ability to not simply watch a story, but put you in control of it can give a much more powerful and enjoyable experience.

I'm fortunate in that a lot of my circle of friends and colleagues are keen videogamers and have been for years. On top of that Mrs Chopley and Chopley Jnr love videogames too (mostly WoW and Minecraft for them), and we all play together.

To some people videogames will always just be 'Space Invaders for dorks' but I can't be bothered trying to open their minds

I am in the market for a new console, and think the ps4 pro is starting to leave the xbox behind for exclusive games, but I do like the xbox's built in 4k player for movies, so in a month or two I'm probably going to get the xbox one s as a stop gap.

If you're only getting one new console then the PS4 Pro is definitely the one to get. The XB1X is a great bit of hardware but is hurting really hard in its lack of exclusives.

I stopped watching after 3 feature buys mate. Not because your video is bad but because BTG annoys the sh*t out of me.
2x 6 scatter trigger and such horrendous returns.

Yes it wasn't a particularly edifying session, I'd be the first to admit!

One more thing...there must be some huge wins hidden in those bonus rounds because the White Rabbit bonus also costs 100x to buy and there are 3000x, 4000x and even 5000x wins in there while the "floor" is nowhere near as low and the one on Genie Jackpots. I'm not sure where the money is but it has to be somewhere.

It's easy to see the potential pays the slot has, assuming what we can see on the reels as being 'possible' is actually in the paytable somewhere, especially in the (hnnngh) 'Unlimited' Multiplier round.

This is where slots like this piss me off though, the maths model it runs on is so bloody complex and obtuse that we're left trying to guess at the possible pays and therefore also the variance.

But yes, it's a massively different beast to White Rabbit, where the feature buys generally yield a reasonable return.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

PS4 pro is great. However if you or anyone else owns a basic ps4, it's still almost just as good.

The only reason I upgraded was because of the new TV and the ability to play in higher resolution. All I can say is you will be surprised how quickly your brain adjusts to the higher quality and how playing on my old setup was just as much fun.

It's the 60FPS option that quite a few games have that I value more than the 4K option. As I do a lot of gaming in the PC space my expectation is playing games at a nice fluid 60FPS, and the PS4 Pro seems to offer that in a lot of titles.

So in The Last Of Us Remastered for example, I've gone for 1080p upscaled at 60FPS, rather than native 4K at 30FPS.

 

[lotusch]

I'm fortunate in that a lot of my circle of friends and colleagues are keen videogamers and have been for years. On top of that Mrs Chopley and Chopley Jnr love videogames too (mostly WoW and Minecraft for them), and we all play together.

To some people videogames will always just be 'Space Invaders for dorks' but I can't be bothered trying to open their minds

I am an avid wow player myself since the early days of vanilla wow.
Have had breaks in between but this game never seems to bore me.
Plenty of new content all the time and I really like the lore of the game.

I have also a PS4 but not playing a lot as my girls keep the TV downstairs occupied with their WII and Netflix.

 

[Balthazar]

Hey Chops...if you're not too busy these days and you're still willing to test a new "interesting" slot model may I suggest looking at Wild Swarm by PUSH Gaming? There's a thread about it here and IMO it should gather more attention.

Strange stuff is happening with this slot where some people appear to be able to win thousands with a simple betting strategy. This thing is testing my faith on its randomness, I need more opinions.

 

[dunover]

 

[marky123]

13000 profit in 2 days

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Hey Chops...if you're not too busy these days and you're still willing to test a new "interesting" slot model may I suggest looking at Wild Swarm by PUSH Gaming? There's a thread about it here and IMO it should gather more attention.

Strange stuff is happening with this slot where some people appear to be able to win thousands with a simple betting strategy. This thing is testing my faith on its randomness, I need more opinions.

Yes I've been following the thread and it looks like there might be something in it. Bit of a schoolboy error on the developer's part!

Here's a message (not mine) from a UK based gambling forum.

I guess it can still go wrong as you don't know how long it'll take to trigger the swarm, but as an overall strategy it looks like it should work overall, assuming no shenanigans on compensating the final round trigger if you adjust your stake.

Fuck sake, bet we ain't got long before Swarm gets chipped, fucking internet ruins every decent clue these days!

 

[Balthazar]

13000 profit in 2 days

At Wild Swarm?

Yes I've been following the thread and it looks like there might be something in it. Bit of a schoolboy error on the developer's part!

If that's the case then it's a big deal. Right now casinos are getting hammered and if it turns out to be a developer mistake I don't know how the industry will react to that. I don't recall anything like that happening before.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

If that's the case then it's a big deal. Right now casinos are getting hammered and if it turns out to be a developer mistake I don't know how the industry will react to that. I don't recall anything like that happening before.

Again, not my post, but from the same UK gambling forums (and echoes sentiments expressed here at CM) that it may not actually be in the player's favour overall, but perhaps cracks out the variance a lot so when it works, it really works. (And vice versa.....)

I suspect that in the future Wild Swarm will get tweaked. Either the variance on triggering the swarm will get even more volatile or they will switch it to average stake in swam building stage and make the trigger easier to get.

I wouldn't be surprised if the casino's push for this rather than the developer because they'll be pig sick of pennies being spent on the run up and big bucks being won on the swarm trigger. If your average swarm building time is around 2-3 hours, that's a lot of potential bank roll drain even on a modest £2 a spin. 20p stake can lose you £100 on a swarm build if you're getting crap base game results over a couple of hours.

At the very least, I think the casino's may well introduce t's + c's on how you may be able to play the game in the future.

Of course I'm aware you can get a very late swarm trigger and a shit swarm but there still seems to be a player advantage there if you're hitting it early doors. It's marginal, but a rare thing in the online industry. Or, maybe it's a very clever gaming gimmick that will all even out on the long run when you hit that 200+ bees for a swarm that pays <50x

 

[lotusch]

I played wild swarm only briefly and triggered the free spins quite fast and ended up with well over 200x on a €0.60 bet.
Got loads of sticky wilds.

But the game is tested for tens of thousands of spins by the developer I suppose and then it had also pass the regular tests of randomness and fairness so I cannot really believe there is a system or glitch that would be an advantage to the player. Would it not have been pulled by now?

I know there was something with Netents Frankenstein before however I never got to find out what that exactly was. No one really wanted to give heads up about it.

 

[JGslots]

Hey @ChopleyIOM Chopper's. Can I request you to do a video? There's basically a site similar to Jackpot Party, named Star Spins. Would love you to have a butchers how the progressives work,
as they are basically hooked into the actual games and are running their full RTP as well as the progressives, so it basically eats into the house edge.

Not too sure If you've already played there or seen the site? They have some weird games also


See what you think,

Rob

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Did them back in 2014, has anything changed since then?

 

[Jory]

So in The Last Of Us Remastered for example, I've gone for 1080p upscaled at 60FPS, rather than native 4K at 30FPS.

I wish more PS4 pro games offered this. I started playing Skyrim and it really does look amazing in native 4K, but it runs at -30fps, sometimes dropping to below 20.

I would love to play Skyrim at 60fps @ 1080p but for some reason there doesn't appear to be an option.

 

[Jory]

Did them back in 2014, has anything changed since then?

I just wanted to mention that I no longer watch gambling videos so perhaps it is wrong of me to use your thread to continue video game discussion.

Edit:

Do not recommend Playstation Now. I mean like wtf is this..

So you pay for a subscription service, but you must wait in a queue to use it?

Imagine you go on Netflix to watch episode 2X09 of Stranger Things and it tells you that you must wait for an hour to watch it.

 

[mack341]

I wish more PS4 pro games offered this. I started playing Skyrim and it really does look amazing in native 4K, but it runs at -30fps, sometimes dropping to below 20.

I would love to play Skyrim at 60fps @ 1080p but for some reason there doesn't appear to be an option.

skyrim was the first aa+ title I'd played in about 10 years having given up gaming around 2002 and then restarting in 2012, it just blew me away wandering around at night, dodging and escaping fights with roaming bandits and the forsworn as my fighting skills were not yet up to par. I remember exploring around and ending up on the road leading to the solitude city, with all the lamps lit up in the distance, and that sense of the unknown ahead.

I hope chopley doesn't mind the gaming talk maybe we can start a seperate gaming thread in the attic somewhere ?

 

[mack341]

Did them back in 2014, has anything changed since then?

starspins my rtp there must be 25%, I use to deposit there in 2015 when I first started playing slots. I've done a few occasional deposits this year to play the old flash rhino and it just seemed to play differently, very hard to trigger a bonus. Their jackpot game would just pop up every 10 minutes and interrupt you with a lot of fanfare and a silly star game only to show you hadn't won it seems they've improved it now and you can just carry on with your slot play while it tells you whether you've won.

They have added book of ra but I don't think they have any btg slots, a small blessing to some

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The videogame chat is fine in here as far as I'm concerned (If I had to choose between videogames and online slots, the online slots would be making a quick exit through the nearest window.)

(My next videogame content for the channel will be on The Last Of Us Remastered.)

 

[dunover]

Did them back in 2014, has anything changed since then?

I had EXACTLY the bastard you mentioned in that video (Ruby Slippers) - the full scatter reels and the picks bonus, rubbing my hands with glee and the sodding witch first pick, 1.20 win! It was on one of my old videos, the same one where the sound got stuck in a loop so every spin it said "YOU ARE NOW A MEMBER OF THE LEGION OF WHATEVER'

 

[mack341]

Lots of feature buys on the new Genie Jackpots Megaways slot, with some relaxing 3Dice Video Poker running at the same time.

Although the results of those bought features was fairly shocking and enough evidence to scare away any sensible slotter, the ability to play a brand new 'megaways' slot at only 10p a spin tempted me to give it a go at sky vegas, I couldn't see the option to buy the feature so maybe sky wanted it disabled . In total, over two days, I must have done £65 worth of 10p spins before seeing 1 bonus land [3 scatters only] which paid the grand sum of 83p scaled up to £2 stake and it would have been £1300 worth of spins for a £16.30 bonus .

 

[ChopleyIOM]

More AWP talk, dunover rejoice!

I'm going back to the early 90s for this one, when the maximum prize was £3 cash or £6 in tokens that couldn't be exchanged for cash.

And yet, against this backdrop, Barcrest made some of the most entertaining AWPs ever.

 

[Jory]

wandering around at night, dodging and escaping fights with roaming bandits and the forsworn as my fighting skills were not yet up to par. I remember exploring around and ending up on the road leading to the solitude city, with all the lamps lit up in the distance, and that sense of the unknown ahead

I would recommend playing Fallout 4 then, it's from the same studio and uses the same engine. It's really just a re-skin of Skyrim and plays exactly the same.

When I bought my gaming PC it was from a big win I hit were I wanted something to show for it. Fallout 4 was the first game I played and it was so addictive that I would hate to admit how many 100's of hours I have played on that game alone.

(My next videogame content for the channel will be on The Last Of Us Remastered.)

Can't wait to watch that and glad you enjoyed it!

 

[JGslots]

More AWP talk, dunover rejoice!

I'm going back to the early 90s for this one, when the maximum prize was £3 cash or £6 in tokens that couldn't be exchanged for cash.

And yet, against this backdrop, Barcrest made some of the most entertaining AWPs ever.

You should seriously consider making a visit to Mr P's Classic Amusements when you're back the UK, they allow permission for anyone to film in their venues too.
I would love to listen to you getting stitched up on a Caesars Palace. I went down there a few months back and they have some amazingly well preserved stuff.
I did my fuckin' plums as you can imagine like lol. Thanks for the video.

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Even worth visitn the website just to listen to the old school fruity sounds lol You'd probably name them all hahaha.

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Rob

 

[Jono777]

Played that Road Hog a LOT in our local Quicksilver (now Admiral owned by Novomatic) It sat right next to another from Barcrest in "Viva Las Vegas"

2 Very good machines which could Streak VERY well (IIRC best was about £70-£80 mix of tokens and cash) had more than my fair share of luck on them back in the day.

Few machines I've been meaning to mention for a while now Chopley to see if you have anything on them please...

Cash Force (BFM - £4.80 JP)
Code Name (Maygay - not many of these made)
Hi - Rise (Barcrest - £4.80 JP, The first machine I believe with 2 Hi-Lo reels!)
Red Hot Poker (£3/£6 - BWB)

There was also a follow up to Screen Play, again with a screen and trivia, skill games etc but with more to it, again Maygay but cannot recall the name for the life of me

 

[mack341]

I would recommend playing Fallout 4 then, it's from the same studio and uses the same engine. It's really just a re-skin of Skyrim and plays exactly the same.

When I bought my gaming PC it was from a big win I hit were I wanted something to show for it. Fallout 4 was the first game I played and it was so addictive that I would hate to admit how many 100's of hours I have played on that game alone.

my 2012 budget gaming pc is only dual core and suddenly around 2015 a lot of the big titles like gta5, fallout 4 etc.. all required a quad core processor as a minimum requirement I think they might run on my setup but only with all the graphic settings dialled right down. I really like the look of fallout 4 but the addictive/time aspect worries me a little bit , It only costs about £10 now for xbox/ps4 so I think I'll buy it when I get my new console this winter , really looking forward to it.

I've cut right back on the slots and am allowing myself a strict £100 budget to last me from 1st sept until 1st feb 2019, so I will need some video gaming to help me.