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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by mooony, Nov 2, 2013.

    Nov 2, 2013
  1. mooony

    mooony Dormant account

    Occupation:
    royalty
    Location:
    uk
    50+ spins on golden shamrock,hit no bonus or a win above my stake. 50+ spins on hall of gods,hit no bonus or win above my stake. Jack hammer 50+ spins hit no bonus or win until lowered stake to minimum then kept spinning,loss after loss so went to roulette,what a mistake that was,the casino's software clearly on the take,hindsight is good isnt it. I dont need to announce i lost,spin after spin resulted in more losses just like the slots. What is a fair casino? I know its wrong to expect to win every spin but a reasonable win every now and then should be attainable on an accredited casino. Im so annoyed i joined the casino because it was accredited on here,i know its my fault but reps of sites highlighting big wins should be taken with a pinch of salt. Be careful not to waste too much money,keep it fun.
     
  2. Nov 2, 2013
  3. Nifty29

    Nifty29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    PAID CASINO SHILL
    Location:
    Turn right, then right. then right again
    Around 150 spins without a feature?

    Losing at roulette?

    Definitely rigged I tells ya.
     
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  4. Nov 2, 2013
  5. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

    Occupation:
    n/a
    Location:
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    you lost on roulette so it must be rigged (casino on the take)

    random is random is random, and as a reminder, the house ALWAYS has the edge - slots are DESIGNED to take your money. Noone should expect to win. You should expect to lose, and the occasional wins are just good luck
     
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  6. Nov 2, 2013
  7. mooony

    mooony Dormant account

    Occupation:
    royalty
    Location:
    uk
    of course the casino is there to take your balance BUT it is reasonable to expect some decent wins as well as losses. Cheers for being so ridiculous in your replies.
     
  8. Nov 2, 2013
  9. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

    Occupation:
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    Location:
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    well, only as ridiculous as was warranted. Who says you're expected to make some decent wins? I didn't see that in the terms of service
     
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  10. Nov 2, 2013
  11. mooony

    mooony Dormant account

    Occupation:
    royalty
    Location:
    uk
    i take it you play casino's,for what reason?
     
  12. Nov 2, 2013
  13. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    In general, slots online have an RTP (theoretical return to player over the long term) of 90-97%. But that is over millions of spins. You can go hundreds of spins without a feature (I often do 500-1000 spins without one), but every now and then you will win 100/200/500x your stake.

    One of the keys to managing your bankroll is understanding "slot variance". It's worth searching for and reading up. If you picked an accredited casino, it's pretty safe to assume it's fair, the numbers generated are truly random and it's not rigged.

    Like Dionysus says, you have to bet with money you can afford to lose which means you should expectto lose and if you win it's a bonus. Not just on slots but any form of gambling. When losses cause anger or an emotional response you need to question whether you've crossed a boundary.
     
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  14. Nov 2, 2013
  15. mooony

    mooony Dormant account

    Occupation:
    royalty
    Location:
    uk
    Thanks simmo,i must say i lost just as much money playing slots. Id just warn fellow newbies to keep stakes low if they have some spare money.
     
  16. Nov 2, 2013
  17. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

    Occupation:
    n/a
    Location:
    I'm a Canucklehead
    i play for the CHANCE to win, not because i expect to - I 'expect' to lose

    low stakes or high stakes is pretty much irrelevant. you play according to your bankroll and what you can afford to lose
    if you want an idea of how slots play, try them in fun mode first, and know it's a sample, not indicative of what may or may not result in terms of wins, but to get an understanding of the variance you might expect
     
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  18. Nov 2, 2013
  19. mooony

    mooony Dormant account

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    Location:
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    ive played in fun mode many times,the results dont compare at all- in fun mode you get more wins,thats the problem. Fun mode is not realistic,its there to entice you in.
     
  20. Nov 2, 2013
  21. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

    Occupation:
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    Location:
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    actually, that's not true. Accredited casinos run fun mode as samples of how real mode would pay. You can kill a bankroll of fun money just as easily, then turn around and hit large in real mode
     
  22. Nov 2, 2013
  23. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    Actually, the main licensing jurisdictions like Alderney, Isle Of Man etc insist that Fun Play replicates Real Play, including RTP. That said, there has been the odd instance of a fun-play game not reaching those standards, although I would guess it's very rare.
     
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  24. Nov 2, 2013
  25. Andy Walker

    Andy Walker Full Member

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    Tax Payer
    Location:
    UK
    You could go for hundreds and thousands of spins without a feature on some slots without some action that would put some icing on the cake (sorry pun time).

    If the % stuck to the exact rule then the return would be XYZ for every deposit wagered.

    Gambling should be thought of as like buses / coaches you wait for ages with nothing and all of a sudden three turn up. The first one has a flat tyre / tire and sadly gets you nowhere, the second one lets you hop on and seems to go in the direction you want but the radiator blows up and you are back to square one.

    The third one seems almost prefect you sit in comfort until you realise it’s taken you to a destination you never wanted to be.

    You need to spin more and only then do the Casinos direct you to the place they want you to be.
     
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  26. Nov 2, 2013
  27. asadzareef89

    asadzareef89 Meister Member MM

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    Location:
    United Kingdom
    No to netent until they change their variance(More like Dead or Alive)

    Moony I had same experience when i first started at Netent they are not worth your money, try MG but remember they can be very harsh aswell but i have had 5 decent withdrawals this week

    32 Red - around 800 (2 deposits of 20,10 plus 10 birthday freebie)
    Spin Palace - 292 (2 deposits,20 and 25)
    10 bet -150 (3 deposits of 20)
    Betsafe - 395 (1 deposit of 30)
    CasinoLuck -120 (3 deposits 21, 30, and 26)

    You have to understand though that u can go on a very dry run as my 1st month with MG i was down a lot with no return whatsoever, went 60 spins on IR with no win whatsoever then 61st spin i hit bonus round thought yay but guess what 10 dead spins in bonus round so after 61 spins i won 1.2 but next day i went in straightaway a win of 30 n then bonus round on 7th spin won me around 150x bet

    Only bet what u can afford to save urself the agony and frustration, i normally bet the money i was going to spend on junk and stuff so either way it was gonna go to waste lol!!!

    As u can see the highest deposit i'll go for is 30 and no more
     
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  28. Nov 3, 2013
  29. mrmark21

    mrmark21 Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Telecommunications Consultant
    Location:
    australia
    IMO fun mode plays exactly the same as real mode. The slots are random and therefore play differently to the Psudo-random fruities at your local B&M. You cant just sit and watch someone betting $5 a spin and then once theyve lost jump on betting $1 a spin and get a good win. Slots online are different and past play dosent influence the slot. You need to know what your going to get on random slots before going in.

    I agree on the Netent thing. IMPO I'd probably rate the softwares from best to worst (in terms of returns) as follows:

    1. Playtech
    2. Rival
    3. MG
    4. Netent
    5. RTG

    Good luck :)
     
  30. Nov 3, 2013
  31. dionysus

    dionysus can turn wine into water CAG MM

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    For me, it's MG at the top, can't play Rival anyway, don't play Playtech (rarely at any rate) nor RTG, and yet to hit a good NetEnt win
     
  32. Nov 3, 2013
  33. mrmark21

    mrmark21 Meister Member

    Occupation:
    Telecommunications Consultant
    Location:
    australia
    I've had a couple of huge wins on MG and much more surprisingly Netent (only one though). Won $700 off a 75c bet on Isis at MG and my biggest ever hit was $1000 on a 45c bet on Reel Steel at Netent. Not like I've never won however my losses far and away (ridiculously) outweigh any wins I've ever had. I've never won a damn thing on RTG even after around 150-200 deposits at various casinos so they get the worst position on my list.

    TBH I would probably still be playing MG had I not gone three months and countless deposits without a withdrawal. Bad session after bad session gets a bit old after a while. I like their games they just dont like me ;)

    I've done good at Playtech. I started playing Rival recently and was getting a good amount of play time which is enough for me. But when I quit I closed all my accounts every single last one. Except for 32 Red but only because they offered me a comp without me asking and I'm not going to thank them by closing my account, what I did do was lower my weekly limit to $30. I felt really tight asking CS to do that but thats what happens when you cant get a win to save your life.
     
  34. Nov 3, 2013
  35. mooony

    mooony Dormant account

    Occupation:
    royalty
    Location:
    uk
    i must admit i didnt realise you could go as many as a thousand spins on slots before hitting a feature,that woulf be some huge balance needed,i reckon i'll swerve them and stick to the horses,at least you need a bit of skill for that.
     
  36. Nov 3, 2013
  37. ChillBill

    ChillBill Banned User - Aussiedave in disguise

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    semi retired
    Location:
    Australia
    Lets say your doing 2,500 spins an hour, that's about 41 spins a minute. For arguement sake, all up you did 200 spins in total across these 3 slots. That's a whopping 4.87 minutes of play time. Yep certainly a monsterous sample of spins to determine this casino is rigged :rolleyes:
     
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  38. Nov 3, 2013
  39. bsilva028

    bsilva028 Banned : multi-account fraudster PABnoaccred PABaccred

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    salesman
    Location:
    portugal

    in terms of returns, for me, where i got better results was:
    1st rival
    2nd mg
    3rd playtech
    4th rtg
    5th netent
     

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