my casino experience

[mooony]

50+ spins on golden shamrock,hit no bonus or a win above my stake. 50+ spins on hall of gods,hit no bonus or win above my stake. Jack hammer 50+ spins hit no bonus or win until lowered stake to minimum then kept spinning,loss after loss so went to roulette,what a mistake that was,the casino's software clearly on the take,hindsight is good isnt it. I dont need to announce i lost,spin after spin resulted in more losses just like the slots. What is a fair casino? I know its wrong to expect to win every spin but a reasonable win every now and then should be attainable on an accredited casino. Im so annoyed i joined the casino because it was accredited on here,i know its my fault but reps of sites highlighting big wins should be taken with a pinch of salt. Be careful not to waste too much money,keep it fun.

 

[Nifty29]

Around 150 spins without a feature?

Losing at roulette?

Definitely rigged I tells ya.

 

[dionysus]

you lost on roulette so it must be rigged (casino on the take)

random is random is random, and as a reminder, the house ALWAYS has the edge - slots are DESIGNED to take your money. Noone should expect to win. You should expect to lose, and the occasional wins are just good luck

 

[mooony]

of course the casino is there to take your balance BUT it is reasonable to expect some decent wins as well as losses. Cheers for being so ridiculous in your replies.

 

[dionysus]

of course the casino is there to take your balance BUT it is reasonable to expect some decent wins as well as losses. Cheers for being so ridiculous in your replies.

well, only as ridiculous as was warranted. Who says you're expected to make some decent wins? I didn't see that in the terms of service

 

[mooony]

well, only as ridiculous as was warranted. Who says you're expected to make some decent wins? I didn't see that in the terms of service

i take it you play casino's,for what reason?

 

[Simmo!]

50+ spins on golden shamrock,hit no bonus or a win above my stake. 50+ spins on hall of gods,hit no bonus or win above my stake. Jack hammer 50+ spins hit no bonus or win until lowered stake to minimum then kept spinning,loss after loss so went to roulette,what a mistake that was,the casino's software clearly on the take,hindsight is good isnt it. I dont need to announce i lost,spin after spin resulted in more losses just like the slots. What is a fair casino? I know its wrong to expect to win every spin but a reasonable win every now and then should be attainable on an accredited casino. Im so annoyed i joined the casino because it was accredited on here,i know its my fault but reps of sites highlighting big wins should be taken with a pinch of salt. Be careful not to waste too much money,keep it fun.

In general, slots online have an RTP (theoretical return to player over the long term) of 90-97%. But that is over millions of spins. You can go hundreds of spins without a feature (I often do 500-1000 spins without one), but every now and then you will win 100/200/500x your stake.

One of the keys to managing your bankroll is understanding "slot variance". It's worth searching for and reading up. If you picked an accredited casino, it's pretty safe to assume it's fair, the numbers generated are truly random and it's not rigged.

Like Dionysus says, you have to bet with money you can afford to lose which means you should expectto lose and if you win it's a bonus. Not just on slots but any form of gambling. When losses cause anger or an emotional response you need to question whether you've crossed a boundary.

 

[mooony]

Thanks simmo,i must say i lost just as much money playing slots. Id just warn fellow newbies to keep stakes low if they have some spare money.

 

[dionysus]

i take it you play casino's,for what reason?

i play for the CHANCE to win, not because i expect to - I 'expect' to lose

low stakes or high stakes is pretty much irrelevant. you play according to your bankroll and what you can afford to lose
if you want an idea of how slots play, try them in fun mode first, and know it's a sample, not indicative of what may or may not result in terms of wins, but to get an understanding of the variance you might expect

 

[mooony]

i play for the CHANCE to win, not because i expect to - I 'expect' to lose

low stakes or high stakes is pretty much irrelevant. you play according to your bankroll and what you can afford to lose
if you want an idea of how slots play, try them in fun mode first, and know it's a sample, not indicative of what may or may not result in terms of wins, but to get an understanding of the variance you might expect

ive played in fun mode many times,the results dont compare at all- in fun mode you get more wins,thats the problem. Fun mode is not realistic,its there to entice you in.

 

[dionysus]

ive played in fun mode many times,the results dont compare at all- in fun mode you get more wins,thats the problem. Fun mode is not realistic,its there to entice you in.

actually, that's not true. Accredited casinos run fun mode as samples of how real mode would pay. You can kill a bankroll of fun money just as easily, then turn around and hit large in real mode

 

[Simmo!]

ive played in fun mode many times,the results dont compare at all- in fun mode you get more wins,thats the problem. Fun mode is not realistic,its there to entice you in.

Actually, the main licensing jurisdictions like Alderney, Isle Of Man etc insist that Fun Play replicates Real Play, including RTP. That said, there has been the odd instance of a fun-play game not reaching those standards, although I would guess it's very rare.

 

[Andy Walker]

50+ spins on golden shamrock,hit no bonus or a win above my stake. 50+ spins on hall of gods,hit no bonus or win above my stake. Jack hammer 50+ spins hit no bonus or win until lowered stake to minimum then kept spinning,loss after loss so went to roulette,what a mistake that was,the casino's software clearly on the take,hindsight is good isnt it. I dont need to announce i lost,spin after spin resulted in more losses just like the slots. What is a fair casino? I know its wrong to expect to win every spin but a reasonable win every now and then should be attainable on an accredited casino. Im so annoyed i joined the casino because it was accredited on here,i know its my fault but reps of sites highlighting big wins should be taken with a pinch of salt. Be careful not to waste too much money,keep it fun.

You could go for hundreds and thousands of spins without a feature on some slots without some action that would put some icing on the cake (sorry pun time).

If the % stuck to the exact rule then the return would be XYZ for every deposit wagered.

Gambling should be thought of as like buses / coaches you wait for ages with nothing and all of a sudden three turn up. The first one has a flat tyre / tire and sadly gets you nowhere, the second one lets you hop on and seems to go in the direction you want but the radiator blows up and you are back to square one.

The third one seems almost prefect you sit in comfort until you realise it’s taken you to a destination you never wanted to be.

You need to spin more and only then do the Casinos direct you to the place they want you to be.

 

[asadzareef89]

No to netent until they change their variance(More like Dead or Alive)

Moony I had same experience when i first started at Netent they are not worth your money, try MG but remember they can be very harsh aswell but i have had 5 decent withdrawals this week

32 Red - around 800 (2 deposits of 20,10 plus 10 birthday freebie)
Spin Palace - 292 (2 deposits,20 and 25)
10 bet -150 (3 deposits of 20)
Betsafe - 395 (1 deposit of 30)
CasinoLuck -120 (3 deposits 21, 30, and 26)

You have to understand though that u can go on a very dry run as my 1st month with MG i was down a lot with no return whatsoever, went 60 spins on IR with no win whatsoever then 61st spin i hit bonus round thought yay but guess what 10 dead spins in bonus round so after 61 spins i won 1.2 but next day i went in straightaway a win of 30 n then bonus round on 7th spin won me around 150x bet

Only bet what u can afford to save urself the agony and frustration, i normally bet the money i was going to spend on junk and stuff so either way it was gonna go to waste lol!!!

As u can see the highest deposit i'll go for is 30 and no more

 

[mrmark21]

IMO fun mode plays exactly the same as real mode. The slots are random and therefore play differently to the Psudo-random fruities at your local B&M. You cant just sit and watch someone betting $5 a spin and then once theyve lost jump on betting $1 a spin and get a good win. Slots online are different and past play dosent influence the slot. You need to know what your going to get on random slots before going in.

I agree on the Netent thing. IMPO I'd probably rate the softwares from best to worst (in terms of returns) as follows:

1. Playtech
2. Rival
3. MG
4. Netent
5. RTG

Good luck

 

[dionysus]

IMO fun mode plays exactly the same as real mode. The slots are random and therefore play differently to the Psudo-random fruities at your local B&M. You cant just sit and watch someone betting $5 a spin and then once theyve lost jump on betting $1 a spin and get a good win. Slots online are different and past play dosent influence the slot. You need to know what your going to get on random slots before going in.

I agree on the Netent thing. IMPO I'd probably rate the softwares from best to worst (in terms of returns) as follows:

1. Playtech
2. Rival
3. MG
4. Netent
5. RTG

Good luck

For me, it's MG at the top, can't play Rival anyway, don't play Playtech (rarely at any rate) nor RTG, and yet to hit a good NetEnt win

 

[mrmark21]

For me, it's MG at the top, can't play Rival anyway, don't play Playtech (rarely at any rate) nor RTG, and yet to hit a good NetEnt win

I've had a couple of huge wins on MG and much more surprisingly Netent (only one though). Won $700 off a 75c bet on Isis at MG and my biggest ever hit was $1000 on a 45c bet on Reel Steel at Netent. Not like I've never won however my losses far and away (ridiculously) outweigh any wins I've ever had. I've never won a damn thing on RTG even after around 150-200 deposits at various casinos so they get the worst position on my list.

TBH I would probably still be playing MG had I not gone three months and countless deposits without a withdrawal. Bad session after bad session gets a bit old after a while. I like their games they just dont like me

I've done good at Playtech. I started playing Rival recently and was getting a good amount of play time which is enough for me. But when I quit I closed all my accounts every single last one. Except for 32 Red but only because they offered me a comp without me asking and I'm not going to thank them by closing my account, what I did do was lower my weekly limit to $30. I felt really tight asking CS to do that but thats what happens when you cant get a win to save your life.

 

[mooony]

i must admit i didnt realise you could go as many as a thousand spins on slots before hitting a feature,that woulf be some huge balance needed,i reckon i'll swerve them and stick to the horses,at least you need a bit of skill for that.

 

[ChillBill]

50+ spins on golden shamrock,hit no bonus or a win above my stake. 50+ spins on hall of gods,hit no bonus or win above my stake. Jack hammer 50+ spins hit no bonus or win until lowered stake to minimum then kept spinning,loss after loss so went to roulette,what a mistake that was,the casino's software clearly on the take.

Lets say your doing 2,500 spins an hour, that's about 41 spins a minute. For arguement sake, all up you did 200 spins in total across these 3 slots. That's a whopping 4.87 minutes of play time. Yep certainly a monsterous sample of spins to determine this casino is rigged

 

[bsilva028]

IMO fun mode plays exactly the same as real mode. The slots are random and therefore play differently to the Psudo-random fruities at your local B&M. You cant just sit and watch someone betting $5 a spin and then once theyve lost jump on betting $1 a spin and get a good win. Slots online are different and past play dosent influence the slot. You need to know what your going to get on random slots before going in.

I agree on the Netent thing. IMPO I'd probably rate the softwares from best to worst (in terms of returns) as follows:

1. Playtech
2. Rival
3. MG
4. Netent
5. RTG

Good luck

in terms of returns, for me, where i got better results was:
1st rival
2nd mg
3rd playtech
4th rtg
5th netent

 

[lausitzer28]

The slots are fakkin not Random, go to Microgaming and you will start where you have left the Slot.

Is that Random? How can you talk about random in the other hand you talk about RTP and Houseedge.

If it would be random i could win in every Spin BIG WIN , is there anyone out there who has won 5 Big Win in a Row? No of course not because every fakkin Software knows what YOU got.

So und nochwas ihr könnt mich alle mal. Diese scheiß Casino´s sind alle beschissene Betrüger die die nur das Geld aus dem Arsch ziehen wollen. Vielleicht wechsel ich auch auf die andere Seite, kaufe mir die ganze Software und ziehe euch alle ab. Igor und Konsorten machen es ja vor.

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[Andy Walker]

The slots are fakkin not Random, go to Microgaming and you will start where you have left the Slot.

Is that Random? How can you talk about random in the other hand you talk about RTP and Houseedge.

If it would be random i could win in every Spin BIG WIN , is there anyone out there who has won 5 Big Win in a Row? No of course not because every fakkin Software knows what YOU got.

So und nochwas ihr könnt mich alle mal. Diese scheiß Casino´s sind alle beschissene Betrüger die die nur das Geld aus dem Arsch ziehen wollen. Vielleicht wechsel ich auch auf die andere Seite, kaufe mir die ganze Software und ziehe euch alle ab. Igor und Konsorten machen es ja vor.

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You should be very careful when you target people and casinos, being personal towards a business is tricky, but doing this towards the people that work there is very unwise.

I suggest you follow up with a sorry to the members involved and mention a moment of madness and you were not thinking straight.

Hiding behind a second language on an English based forum is not an excuse, English is not really my primary language but I would never use that as an excuse of ignorance.

Best regards

 

[pmutts]

Random

The slots are fakkin not Random, go to Microgaming and you will start where you have left the Slot.

Is that Random? How can you talk about random in the other hand you talk about RTP and Houseedge.

If it would be random i could win in every Spin BIG WIN , is there anyone out there who has won 5 Big Win in a Row? No of course not because every fakkin Software knows what YOU got.

So und nochwas ihr könnt mich alle mal. Diese scheiß Casino´s sind alle beschissene Betrüger die die nur das Geld aus dem Arsch ziehen wollen. Vielleicht wechsel ich auch auf die andere Seite, kaufe mir die ganze Software und ziehe euch alle ab. Igor und Konsorten machen es ja vor.

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May I suggest you look up the word Random in a dictionary printed in whatever your native language may be?

 

[dionysus]

The slots are fakkin not Random, go to Microgaming and you will start where you have left the Slot.

Is that Random? How can you talk about random in the other hand you talk about RTP and Houseedge.

If it would be random i could win in every Spin BIG WIN , is there anyone out there who has won 5 Big Win in a Row? No of course not because every fakkin Software knows what YOU got.

So und nochwas ihr könnt mich alle mal. Diese scheiß Casino´s sind alle beschissene Betrüger die die nur das Geld aus dem Arsch ziehen wollen. Vielleicht wechsel ich auch auf die andere Seite, kaufe mir die ganze Software und ziehe euch alle ab. Igor und Konsorten machen es ja vor.

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If you're going to play online you really should make some basic attempt at understanding the slots
What you see on the screen is just a visual representation of your last win - they aren't physical reels (not like it would matter anyway). Never mind how long you may have been away, in mere moments the RNG has cycles through billions, if not trillions of outcomes. The screen display means squat.

 

[gagamel]

The slots are fakkin not Random, go to Microgaming and you will start where you have left the Slot.

Is that Random? How can you talk about random in the other hand you talk about RTP and Houseedge.

If it would be random i could win in every Spin BIG WIN , is there anyone out there who has won 5 Big Win in a Row? No of course not because every fakkin Software knows what YOU got.

So und nochwas ihr könnt mich alle mal. Diese scheiß Casino´s sind alle beschissene Betrüger die die nur das Geld aus dem Arsch ziehen wollen. Vielleicht wechsel ich auch auf die andere Seite, kaufe mir die ganze Software und ziehe euch alle ab. Igor und Konsorten machen es ja vor.

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Dear lausitzer
it is all random. 5 big wins in a row is nearly impossible, because one big win is a big hit. Two big wins are athe best you can have, because all big hits are not the normal gameplay, these are the hits why the most people play slots, the chance to win BIG. But now some words in german my friend:

Lieber Lausitzer, dies ist ein englischsprachiges Forum und hier ist man mit den typischen Unsitten deutscher Foren nicht vertraut. Zum Beispiel andere Menschen anmachen und aggressiv werden. Ich möchte nicht mit dir in einen Hut geworfen werden als deutscher Vollpfosten und fordere dich hiermit auf, einen angemessenen Umgangston an den Tag zu legen.
Danke für dein Verständniss

For english speaking people: He is a PITA