What I am understandeing you say is that it really is not void until the player tries to claim something from doing wrong. Then it should be deemed void? They already enjoyed the pleasure of playing the games so they already had their "enjoyment" so to speak whereas a voided bet has not been completed at all...which nullifies it..when depositing and playing for hours or minutes etc..you already got your return for the monies invested unlike a bet that never materialized or made it to completion...the other has, the deposit..right up to a withdrawal or total loss..a void is for something NOT completed...JMO..Yes, I am lousy with anologies..but at least I try to get a thought across in my own inept way..here is another one as I said...one that is completed cannot be a void.. Unlike some players that COMPLETE their play then request a withdrawal..only to find that they misread or did not follow rules..how is that a refundable policy? I am trying to reach where you are trying to go but cannot since you are saying one thing when another has already happened...such as the player already had fun but wait! They did it wrong so give them their monies back..is the way I am seeing it..
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Hey Silc, where did that tennis quote come from - nothing to do with me.
No I am saying that if the T&C are broken upon the deposit and not during the wagering as in this instance then all and any bet made from such a deposit are void.
How can a bet that is void before it is even placed be completed?
I am only using the same rule as the casino do to justify denial of winnings.
It has nothing to do with whether one gets enjoyment from playing from a deposit they can not win on thereafter though personally I don't understand how anyone would enjoy such a situation as to have their real money treated as play money.
In a scenario where the T&C's are only broken during play then my view is that all bets from this point become void - the player and Casino can neither win nor lose.
It could be argued that all prior bets from the same deposit should be void as well because it could affect how the player bets later.
Again if you believe the player should be penalised for any breach of T&C's by forfeiting their deposit to the casino as a means for the casino to protect itself from any advantage players, I do not agree.
If I did agree it would need to state this clearly in the Casinos T&C's.
"Any breach of the Casino T&C's will result in confiscation of the players remaining balance"
Not sure that will ever make print though many casinos seem to act upon such an invisible clause.
The T&C's are there to protect the casinos (they are made by the casinos not the players you know) and as in this case they can be applied to deny winnings. Hence they are protected.
Whether there should be any discretion as to what constitutes a bonus abuser or real player who makes a genuine mistake is another argument but I think it is safe to say in this case that the player made a genuine mistake and indeed Inetbet themselves have proved this by stating the player accepted their decision and still plays at their Casino- hardly the actions of a bonus abuser.
Anyway would an advantage player really deposit $15 with -ev bonus?
Lets be honest, the casino knew full well the player made a genuine mistake but chose to enforce the T&C's and confiscate the winnings.
They were within their rights to do so but my point is that if they are such sticklers for the rules then they should be seeking out all the losing void bets and refunding them as well - you know if rules are rules.
The heads we win tails you lose scenario which you ascribe to is not justifiable and the only way I would ever consider a Casino retaining a players deposit (where the loss was not from valid losing bets made) would be in a case of fraud.
In that instance I would expect the Casino return the funds where possible to the rightful owner.
If a player attempts to defraud a casino with his own money then my sentiments may be different depending on the circumstances.
!! The other issue is if player's were to email and question any term's regarding a coupon you are sometime's very slow to respond..
I wanted to deposit long ago, but if they can't answer emails then they lost my business
