Microgaming Premier Roulette.

[premiergaming]

Okay the only roulette i play is Live and Microgaming Premier Roulette.

What do you prefer to Play. The RNG roulette Games or the live?

Either way. I have to now conclude that there is a way to beat the Microgaming Premier Roulette. Infact lets not say beat as it doesn't last for ever. But there are certain spins where you can force certain sections of the wheel out 8 times out of then.

 

[Jasminebed]

It disturbs me to see you post such nonsense for a couple of reasons:

You are an affiliate, you should be held to a higher standard.

You just got lucky and won a whole bunch of money.... if you believe your own nonsense you are a great risk of losing a great deal if not all of it.

 

[premiergaming]

This has got nothing to do with money i have won? Where did you get that from?

Also i mentioned forcing areas out. I never once mentioned that your always going to win Money. As the sections are to big with the area covered. Lol..

So i think you ive misunderstood me there

 

[premiergaming]

Infact let me show you what i mean. I am going to go for the Tier section of the board on a demo wheel. Tier is from 33-36

 

[premiergaming]

 

[premiergaming]

Honestly it is very strange. Have not tried this for real though

 

[mrmark21]

I'll only play Live table games. You can most certainly win playing the RNG version but they play like a slot. I play Roulette and Black Jack.

 

[dunover]

Okay the only roulette i play is Live and Microgaming Premier Roulette.

What do you prefer to Play. The RNG roulette Games or the live?

Either way. I have to now conclude that there is a way to beat the Microgaming Premier Roulette. Infact lets not say beat as it doesn't last for ever. But there are certain spins where you can force certain sections of the wheel out 8 times out of then.

For this to be true they'd have to be compensated and not wholly random. What you allege is that they are somewhat reactionary to a certain spread of bets. This allegation has been observed and recorded on the FOBT's which run similar software before, so it's not beyond possibility. I think what you are alluding to is a quick calculation of the stakes and spread of bets on any spin makes the least costly outcome to the house more likely, so you bet that?
Well, unlike others I won't pour scorn on you if you can demonstrate this.

 

[premiergaming]

Now this is funny. Due to this post i have put on Here about Premier Roulette.

Video slots have now sent me a message saying my account is frozen and the issue has being passed on to Microgaming.

Did they not see that i said ''i have not tried this in real mode''

And if this worked in real mode would i not be very rich?

Its quite obvious that in real mode no game can be beaten lol. What a joke.

 

[premiergaming]

Also. I was playing for 2 Days in a row. The second day i lost around £20,000 so its quite obvious i have not beaten a game which would make me always win..

 

[Dinahnana]

Now this is funny. Due to this post i have put on Here about Premier Roulette.

Video slots have now sent me a message saying my account is frozen and the issue has being passed on to Microgaming.

Did they not see that i said ''i have not tried this in real mode''

And if this worked in real mode would i not be very rich?

Its quite obvious that in real mode no game can be beaten lol. What a joke.

They are probably just going to look over your play logs to confirm this. I have to say though it probably wouldn't have happened if you hadn't started this thread. If all is kosher I am sure everything will be okay.

 

[premiergaming]

Yeah i agree the thread did not help lol. But seriously it is a bit of a joke.. Yes everything will be okay but i actually cant believe they are wasting there time doing this. Because this also means that if they think a game can be beaten in REAL PLAY, Then they are also agreeing that the games are not random

 

[Dinahnana]

Yeah i agree the thread did not help lol. But seriously it is a bit of a joke.. Yes everything will be okay but i actually cant believe they are wasting there time doing this. Because this also means that if they think a game can be beaten in REAL PLAY, Then they are also agreeing that the games are not random

They might be thinking that there could be a malfunction in the game or something.

 

[Jasminebed]

Are you saying this exists only in Fun Mode? If so, that is against accreditation standards.

Are you saying you can "force" numbers out in order to lose? In which case the software is cheating/rigged.

Maybe you can do a little video showing this in action in fun mode.

I must say I am glad you are not trying to put your theory to the test in Real Mode, I was worried for you! I hope whatever investigation does not delay your winnings.

 

[premiergaming]

Whats really annoying me is they know theres nothing wrong. Because i lost over £20,000 the morning after. They are just wasting there time. Maybe my numbers have just being coming out lately , I don't know. But either way. I know i will be paid my winnings so im not worried. This is just a first for me to see a accredited casino do something like this. Its bull shit.

 

[premiergaming]

They might be thinking that there could be a malfunction in the game or something.

Impossible i think mate.

 

[premiergaming]

On that note.. Even if the game came out that it was rigged, or not running properly.. A lot of money will be getting paid out back to customers if im not mistaken , And if that is the case im happy with that to lol

But lets face it.. Why the hell are Videoslots even wasting there time here. Just doesn't make sense

 

[paul7388]

Not being funny here but you must realise why videoslots are interested. Even if you meant it as a joke the fact is you have won £90,000 and are waiting for it to get paid. You then post .... Either way. I have to now conclude that there is a way to beat the Microgaming Premier Roulette. Infact lets not say beat as it doesn't last for ever. But there are certain spins where you can force certain sections of the wheel out 8 times out of then......... And as you won some of your money playing roulette it would set alarm bells ringing. A player hits a casino for a fortune then few days later posts in a forum that he knows a way to make the game he won on pay. It would make casino think wait a minute has someone just cheated us out of a lot of money.

 

[premiergaming]

I do see where your coming from.

But we all know that it is IMPOSSIBLE to beat a online casino. Its as simple as that.

With the thread i posted. It in no way what so ever imposes as a threat to a online casino and it does not say once that there is way to beat a game and win all the time.

All they are doing here is wasting there own time. I know i will be paid but i can see where they are coming from so im trying not to get annoyed about this. Its blatantly obvious in my eyes that i have not ''beaten the casino game'' It is a joke. I also have my other opinions about this which i wont share.. They should not mess me about like this. Considering im an affiliate of theres also and they have top top positions on our sites lol..

 

[Vegasbum]

You screwed up by posting this thread....now you are paying the price. You have no one to blame but yourself. If I was Video Slots I would have done the same thing

 

[premiergaming]

You screwed up by posting this thread....now you are paying the price. You have no one to blame but yourself. If I was Video Slots I would have done the same thing

Personally i don't think i have screwed up what so ever. Its impossible to beat the Game. And that is exactly what Microgaming are going to come back and say. So i know i will be paid.

Put it this way. If i don't get paid my money. That would be because microgaming would have gone back to videoslots and sad the game was beaten. (Which cant be done) And if it can be done. Every stake that has being made on the Premier Roulette by customers would have to be returned.

 

[Vegasbum]

You said in your opening thread that the game CAN be beat, for awhile. You also said you can force certain sectors in 8 out of "then"

So you basically said there is a flaw with the game. What do you expect them to do after reading this post....ignore it? I don't think so

 

[paul7388]

Either way. I have to now conclude that there is a way to beat the Microgaming Premier Roulette. Infact lets not say beat as it doesn't last for ever. But there are certain spins where you can force certain sections of the wheel out 8 times out of then.

I know what you are saying when you say its impossible to beat it and you will get paid if nothing was done wrong. But even tho you are saying what we all believe in that the game works normal and its impossible to make it pay that quote in original post states that you have came to the conclusion that you can beat it and force the outcome in 8 out of 10 spins. As you have since stated it was probably just luck but when someone wins big then states they know how to fix the outcome of a game obviously the casinos going to think is that how he won so much. If I put a big bet in play on a football match say on a player getting sent off and won a lot then joked the next day that I knew the player was going to get red carded as I knew him and he had told me then my account would be closed and investigated. Its the same theory.

 

[premiergaming]

No i don't expect them to ignore it. I also said , infact lets not say beaten, as it doesn't last forever. But either way we look at it. We both know the game cant be beat. Im just annoyed that they are going to waste time and look into it.

 

[premiergaming]

I know what you are saying when you say its impossible to beat it and you will get paid if nothing was done wrong. But even tho you are saying what we all believe in that the game works normal and its impossible to make it pay that quote in original post states that you have came to the conclusion that you can beat it and force the outcome in 8 out of 10 spins. As you have since stated it was probably just luck but when someone wins big then states they know how to fix the outcome of a game obviously the casinos going to think is that how he won so much. If I put a big bet in play on a football match say on a player getting sent off and won a lot then joked the next day that I knew the player was going to get red carded as I knew him and he had told me then my account would be closed and investigated. Its the same theory.

Yeah i do see where you guys are coming from. It was a idiot move on my part. But either way its going to come back that the money was won properly and it was luck. If they come back and say they are not paying. Then they are just pure rogues. But i don't think that will happen

 

[Nifty29]

A very pertinent example of why players should only trust affiliates who know what they're talking about when it comes to casino games e.g. CM, KK, Simmo.

I wouldn't sign up for a free hamburger from premiergaming. I remember some scandal or issue involving premiergaming last year some time actually. I'll have to dig that up tonight. Stay tuned.

 

[premiergaming]

A very pertinent example of why players should only trust affiliates who know what they're talking about when it comes to casino games e.g. CM, KK, Simmo.

I wouldn't sign up for a free hamburger from premiergaming. I remember some scandal or issue involving premiergaming last year some time actually. I'll have to dig that up tonight. Stay tuned.

Ah here we go... And how do i not know what im talking about this time then, Would love to know?

Here is this ''apparent'' Scandal

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/premier-group-forum-unethical-behavior.56695/

Soo. What was your reason for comment. Because you have in no way contributed to what anyone here was talking about. or are you still just someone here to stir things up like you always have been.

I mean seriously, What is your point.

 

[Dinahnana]

Ah here we go... And how do i not know what im talking about this time then, Would love to know?

Here is this ''apparent'' Scandal

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/premier-group-forum-unethical-behavior.56695/

Soo. What was your reason for comment. Because you have in no way contributed to what anyone here was talking about. or are you still just someone here to stir things up like you always have been.

I mean seriously, What is your point.

Nifty isn't a trouble maker, he tells it like it is. He is very straight forward.

I did read the thread you indicated and it looks like the issue was resolved. I also looked at your website the other day and thought it looked good (which it does) however now I see in your blog section you promote Prime Slots which is a rogue casino here on Casinomeister. Since your mission statement on your site states that you want to steer players to safe sites will you stop promoting Prime Slots?

 

[premiergaming]

Nifty isn't a trouble maker, he tells it like it is. He is very straight forward.

I did read the thread you indicated and it looks like the issue was resolved. I also looked at your website the other day and thought it looked good (which it does) however now I see in your blog section you promote Prime Slots which is a rogue casino here on Casinomeister. Since your mission statement on your site states that you want to steer players to safe sites will you stop promoting Prime Slots?

Without sounding rude. I don't want to bring up any other casinos as its not fair to attach them to this thread as we are now going out of what this thread is actually regarding.

If you feel that way about Nifty that fine mate. Thats your opinion. But do you understand what im talking about. What was the nature in his comment. The comment was to just stir things up. Its like dealing with a kid.

Nifty, Don't expect me to sit here and take your crap because im not going to.

 

[Dinahnana]

Without sounding rude. I don't want to bring up any other casinos as its not fair to attach them to this thread as we are now going out of what this thread is actually regarding.

If you feel that way about Nifty that fine mate. Thats your opinion. But do you understand what im talking about. What was the nature in his comment. The comment was to just stir things up. Its like dealing with a kid.

Nifty, Don't expect me to sit here and take your crap because im not going to.

Fair enough

 

[Tirilej]

What is questioned now is more if you can be trusted.
Should members here believe in you and support you.

I didn't back then and I don't now.
I say that because I want webmasters here to hold a high standard, and I don't want new members to get tricked thinking you're a great guy.

Sorry for ruining your thread too.

 

[premiergaming]

What is questioned now is more if you can be trusted.
Should members here believe in you and support you.

I didn't back then and I don't now.
I say that because I want webmasters here to hold a high standard, and I don't want new members to get tricked thinking you're a great guy.

Sorry for ruining your thread too.

I don't mind if you don't trust me. The fact of the matter is all your thinking back to is a PROBLEM that we had in the past as we could not pay to people in the USA. But you will never understand that because you only read what you want to read. And anyway, Thats gone and done now.

And now your saying im tricking people?. God you don't change. Infact yes i remember you now, Always there to stir things up. But okay its fine.. Il let you carry on with your wonder keyboard. Say what you like.. Im not fussed if people think im a great guy or not. Maybe one day you will realise that theres a lot of people in this forum that look at your comments and think for god sake.. that being and gone. Just forget about it and let people move on..

All your snide comments and accusations over a very small business transaction that went wrong and was then fixed. Get over it.

 

[premiergaming]

Also why is my standard lower than other Webmasters here?

 

[Tirilej]

I don't mind if you don't trust me. The fact of the matter is all your thinking back to is a PROBLEM that we had in the past as we could not pay to people in the USA. But you will never understand that because you only read what you want to read. And anyway, Thats gone and done now.

And now your saying im tricking people?. God you don't change. Infact yes i remember you now, Always there to stir things up. But okay its fine.. Il let you carry on with your wonder keyboard. Say what you like.. Im not fussed if people think im a great guy or not. Maybe one day you will realise that theres a lot of people in this forum that look at your comments and think for god sake.. that being and gone. Just forget about it and let people move on..

All your snide comments and accusations over a very small business transaction that went wrong and was then fixed. Get over it.

I didn't get involved in that at all and that's not what I'm refferring to.
Our arguments started a lot earlier with you asking questions about all casinos you wanted to promote, that were rogued here, or not trusted.

I saw on your website that you are promoting casinos that are rogued here. You've been gone for a year.
If you hadn't come back I would maybe never have seen that but it's time you lose that status as a webmaster.

Loco Panda, Betfair, African Palace
Titan Casino, Grand Reef...and Prime Slots

I'm sure there are more but that was a quick look.
Trust you. No way!
You asked for it

 

[premiergaming]

I didn't get involved in that at all and that's not what I'm refferring to.
Our arguments started a lot earlier with you asking questions about all casinos you wanted to promote, that were rogued here, or not trusted.

I saw on your website that you are promoting casinos that are rogued here. You've been gone for a year.
If you hadn't come back I would maybe never have seen that but it's time you lose that status as a webmaster.

Loco Panda, Betfair, African Palace
Titan Casino, Grand Reef

I'm sure there are more but that was a quick look.
Trust you. No way!
You asked for it

You have got me there to be honest as i do have casinos on the site that need removing
No reason to lose the Webmaster status.

And im fine with you not trusting me, Because to be honest.. I really could not care what you think and it is going to make no such difference in my life what so ever.

But thanks for a nice chat

 

[dionysus]

The sad part is, you really SHOULD care. Besides likely now having offended several members by your tone, are you aware of how many casino reps have viewed this thread?
Because, frankly, it DOES matter if want any hope of running a successful site. Absolutely everything you ever do and say, is here for the viewing.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

You have got me there to be honest as i do have casinos on the site that need removing
No reason to lose the Webmaster status.

And im fine with you not trusting me, Because to be honest.. I really could not care what you think and it is going to make no such difference in my life what so ever.

But thanks for a nice chat

It might not be important for you what Tirilej thinks or trusts. But I can tell you I think that most members here and most of your visitors think the same. And next year when things might not look as good for you, and when ur sitting as an sorry ass thinking.....where did it go wrong. Maybe you will think back and say to yourself...... maybe I should had listened to that clever Swedish Girl at Casinomeister

 

[premiergaming]

Infact your very wrong as a lot of them will view it and think. He is not going to be spoke down to by long standing members and neither is he going to be intimidated by them. I do care about my business , but when you guys have a grudge you never let it go. The last 5 or 6 posts, All i have done is give you guys what your giving me.


Im done taking about this now. Its pointless.

 

[premiergaming]

It might not be important for you what Tirilej thinks or trusts. But I can tell you I think that most members here and most of your visitors think the same. And next year when things might not look as good for you, and when ur sitting as an sorry ass thinking.....where did it go wrong. Maybe you will think back and say to yourself...... maybe I should had listened to that clever Swedish Girl at Casinomeister said

No because thats where your wrong... Your telling me its going to all go wrong because i don't care about what a casinomeister member thinks of me. Now that is very sad.

Paaske , This is where some of you guys are wrong. Do you not realise that it is always the same bunch of 5 or 6 that have a problem with me.. The EXACT same bunch every time. And im not going to be spoke down to by a few keyboard warriors that think they can intimidate people here because they have been here longer.

I don't mind what you certain bunch of guys and girls think about me (about 5 of you)

I have my site slagged off , My business practise slagged off. Do you see me having a good going over your sites and telling you things you need to do.. No you dont

 

[dionysus]

Then I can tell you with certainty, you'd be very, very wrong indeed. What people WILL look at is how you handle criticism, feedback, and yes, even belligerence - whether you rise to the bait or can respond in a cool collected manner, and even when to know when to not respond at all.
Players AND reps will want to know that at all times you can handle concerns with professionalism, and I can say, from this seat, I find it lacking.

How about instead of letting your hackles rise, you simply absorb it, and learn from it? You aren't obligated to take any crtiticism, suggestions or snark. You can however, digest it, use what you can, discard the rest, and feel good that you listened.

 

[premiergaming]

Then I can tell you with certainty, you'd be very, very wrong indeed. What people WILL look at is how you handle criticism, feedback, and yes, even belligerence - whether you rise to the bait or can respond in a cool collected manner, and even when to know when to not respond at all.
Players AND reps will want to know that at all times you can handle concerns with professionalism, and I can say, from this seat, I find it lacking.

How about instead of letting your hackles rise, you simply absorb it, and learn from it? You aren't obligated to take any crtiticism, suggestions or snark. You can however, digest it, use what you can, discard the rest, and feel good that you listened.

Yes i did, Over a year ago. S why are you guys bringing it all up again. And no believe me im not wrong.

 

[dionysus]

No because thats where your wrong... Your telling me its going to all go wrong because i don't care about what a casinomeister member thinks of me. Now that is very sad.

Paaske , This is where some of you guys are wrong. Do you not realise that it is always the same bunch of 5 or 6 that have a problem with me.. The EXACT same bunch every time. And im not going to be spoke down to by a few keyboard warriors that think they can intimidate people here because they have been here longer.

I don't mind what you certain bunch of guys and girls think about me (about 5 of you)

I have my site slagged off , My business practise slagged off. Do you see me having a good going over your sites and telling you things you need to do.. No you dont

You should care what EVERY member thinks. Why? Because 5 members will tell 5 members who tell 5 peope who never even heard of you.
It isn't intimidation. If you're feeling intimidated, you need stronger skin.
Remember, you came HERE, we didn't go to you.

 

[dionysus]

Yes i did, Over a year ago. S why are you guys bringing it all up again. And no believe me im not wrong.

Please don't quote me as though I ever brought up some past transgression. I'm basing my posts on what I see here today.

 

[premiergaming]

Oh i need stronger skin now do i.. Okay great.

Thanks for your input

 

[premiergaming]

Please don't quote me as though I ever brought up some past transgression. I'm basing my posts on what I see here today.

Yeah fair enough.

 

[dionysus]

You're very welcome.
I've no idea why you're having a go at me. I've bever attacked you in this thread, I've only supplied feedback and construtive criticism, and it this gets you out of sorts, I'm afraid I don't know what to say.
Why not just listen to feedback? I don't know why you feel this is a bad thing. Pick and choose your battles.

 

[premiergaming]

I do understand exactly what your saying. What has started me off here is Niftys post. You have to agree and ask yourself, Why did he post his comment?

 

[Dinahnana]

I honestly didn't believe affiliates could get Webmeister status if they promoted rogue casinos. According to CM standards I quote:

"Webmeisters
This is open to webmasters who subscribe to the Casinomeister Philosophy and are anti-rogue - join us...Must be a Full Member or above"

So by promoting rogue casinos you are not following this philosophy as well as your own listed on your homepage of your site.

Although I am delighted for your win I really am I was puzzled as to the reason why you started this thread. You had to have known that Videoslots would see it and would raise alarm bells for them. Then you wonder why they are investigating your win on roulette. I am sure everything is above board and you will be paid. I can't help but wonder in hindsight if you started this thread to start to make Videoslots look bad. This is just my opinion.

 

[dionysus]

I do understand exactly what your saying. What has started me off here is Niftys post. You have to agree and ask yourself, Why did he post his comment?

Loll, because he's Nifty - he'll always say what he wants. Some love 'im, some hate 'im - and I WILL say, 9 of 10 he's right. He just uses far more salt than honey.

But again, so what? Just because the bait is dangling, you don't have to bite the hook.
If it sets you off, step back, write your post...then, step back a second time, look at it through new eyes, tweak if necessary, and rewrite.
Remember, Nifty is selling Nifty. YOU'RE selling a ervice, so of course you have different obligations

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

No because thats where your wrong... Your telling me its going to all go wrong because i don't care about what a casinomeister member thinks of me. Now that is very sad.

Its not about a couple of casinomeister members think. It is also about your visitors. If they see rogue casinos then they will not trust you.

Paaske , This is where some of you guys are wrong. Do you not realise that it is always the same bunch of 5 or 6 that have a problem with me.. The EXACT same bunch every time. And im not going to be spoke down to by a few keyboard warriors that think they can intimidate people here because they have been here longer.

I don't mind what you certain bunch of guys and girls think about me (about 5 of you)

I have my site slagged off , My business practise slagged off. Do you see me having a good going over your sites and telling you things you need to do.. No you dont

Sorry I had no intention of slagging off your website or business. You have a great looking site. Damn my sites are an absolute laugh compared to yours. But difference is I promote and show visitors the Casinos which I feel can be trusted and are the best out there. For me it seems like you have no clue. And that it's all about the £$€. Sorry If I am wrong mate but not here to pick a fight. And on other hand no its no fun feeling chased here.