Microgaming New Game Battlestar At Ladbrokes Casino

[HIGHIQ]

HI everyone again.. this happen to me end december at ladbrokes flashcasino..i just want to ask fellow players or this is a right pay out?? i have this hit on the fightmode on 3 usd spin that spin gave me around 140 usd total win of freespin mode was like 168 as u can see.. what i know is when u hit that double wild every combination will be doubled. so as the old guy the captain is worth 20 usd only one line doesnt that mean that combination only is worth 20x2x2x2=160 usd?? and not even count the aces and tens???

as for ladbrokes they are aware of this problem i had let them know and they have forward this to microgaming and its almost been 3 weeks with no answer... although ladbrokes had let me know they are still waiting for a reply from MG..as i read somewhere that VWM say if it was in my favour they probaly changed it long time ago..

thanks fellow players.. btw this is just a curious from my side or it is a correct or not correct pay and wants other players opinion..

 

[HIGHIQ]

btw forgot to say..

long time ago i had kinda weird pay out on immortal romance and i see it diffirent sites as fortune room or ladbrokes or purple lounge these days.. and 32 red aswell.. all those casino try to find a way not to compensate me .. only 32 red was the only one who act class and puts the right pay into my account and say they will talk with MG further.. as player i feel very very good with this act of 32red.. my compliments

 

[KasinoKing]

so as the old guy the captain is worth 20 usd only one line doesnt that mean that combination only is worth 20x2x2x2=160 usd?? and not even count the aces and tens???

That's not how it works - the double wilds are not accumulative multipliers.
It just means each double wild counts as if you had two separate wilds showing.

BUT I do think you were underpaid, because by my calculations you should have a total of:
6 x 5-of-a-kind guy @ 20 each = 120
27 x 5oak A @ 8 = 216
2 x 4oak 10 @ 1 = 2
Which makes a total of: 338.. ?
(More than double what you got paid!)

Can someone else check my maths please!

{Edit} The above IS WRONG - see post #9 below!


KK

 

[HIGHIQ]

That's not how it works - the double wilds are not accumulative multipliers.
It just means each wild counts as if you had two separate wilds showing, so you have a total of:
6 x 5 of-a-kind guy @ 20 each = 120
Plus the other wins... (will edit to add in a minute - need to exit post to see SS!)

KK

Now iam even more confused...

if that is only worth 120 usd how about the other combinations with the aces and tens? i got only from that single spin with those combinations a pay of like around 140 usd on max spin bet of 3 usd

 

[HIGHIQ]

Now iam even more confused...

if that is only worth 120 usd how about the other combinations with the aces and tens? i got only from that single spin with those combinations a pay of like around 140 usd on max spin bet of 3 usd

I just checked.. the captain is worth 20 usd per line

the aces is worth 8 bucks per line

the 4 tens is worth 1 usd per line..

all on 3 usd bet

my total win is 168 usd and from that spin is like 140-145 ish

 

[Seventh777]

Another annoying aspect with this slot is the both ways win zone, 5OAK do not pay right to left, couple this with the only feature in this zone landing 99.99999% of the time when there's only one card per reel, makes this zone beyond piss poor imho.

 

[KasinoKing]

I just checked.. the captain is worth 20 usd per line
the aces is worth 8 bucks per line
the 4 tens is worth 1 usd per line..
all on 3 usd bet
my total win is 168 usd and from that spin is like 140-145 ish

You posted while I was editing my post!
Please go back & have another look...

KK

 

[HIGHIQ]

You posted while I was editing my post!
Please go back & have another look...

KK

IF u say its worth about 300 then i got for sure underpaid yes... i think its even more worth.. but ok.. as for ladbrokes they should have someone who has knowlegde about games and take look and take care this matter between doors becos i wont go for less if i got less paid that is obvious

 

[clees42]

BUT I do think you were underpaid, because by my calculations you should have a total of:
6 x 5-of-a-kind guy @ 20 each = 120
27 x 5oak A @ 8 = 216
2 x 4oak 10 @ 1 = 2
Which makes a total of: 338.. ?
(More than double what you got paid!)

This is not correct.

Actually we have 2x2x2=8 x guy -> 160
27 x 5A -> 216
3x3x2=18 x 4oak 10 -> 18

so the total should be 394

 

[kktmd]

That's not how it works - the double wilds are not accumulative multipliers.
It just means each double wild counts as if you had two separate wilds showing.

BUT I do think you were underpaid, because by my calculations you should have a total of:
6 x 5-of-a-kind guy @ 20 each = 120
27 x 5oak A @ 8 = 216
2 x 4oak 10 @ 1 = 2
Which makes a total of: 338.. ?
(More than double what you got paid!)

Can someone else check my maths please!

KK

I don't think wild doubles your wins like IM? I doubt very much the machine would make a mistake!

Saul: 10 x 3$ x 1 line = 30
A : 4 x 3 $ x 8 line = 96
10 : 0,5 x 3$ x 4 line = 6
Total 142

 

[HIGHIQ]

I don't think wild doubles your wins like IM? I doubt very much the machine would make a mistake!

on the game info says...wins will be doubled when a combination is made with double wild?!?!?!??!?!?

 

[KasinoKing]

This is not correct.

Actually we have 2x2x2=8 x guy -> 160
27 x 5A -> 216
3x3x2=18 x 4oak 10 -> 18

so the total should be 394

Yes, you're right. I thought I had gone wrong somewhere!
(It's been a long day - and my brain is knackered!)

KK

 

[kktmd]

on the game info says...wins will be doubled when a combination is made with double wild?!?!?!??!?!?

The double wild looks different.....it's basically two half height wilds on top of each other.

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[kktmd]

This is not correct.

Actually we have 2x2x2=8 x guy -> 160
27 x 5A -> 216
3x3x2=18 x 4oak 10 -> 18

so the total should be 394

We only have one Saul (guy) in my book. 8 Aces and 4 10's.

 

[HIGHIQ]

The double wild looks different.....it's basically two half height wilds on top of each other.

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yes pls look my screenshot first page... i know they have this combination double wild and single wild aswell as i have wagered over 25.000 usd on this game in the first week at ladbrokes ...this singles spin caught my eye that it was not correct... what about all the other spins in this mode with double wilds..and all other sites i have total wager more then 250.000 on this game already... whos gonna compensate it take ages to find the combinations or the spin.. its microgamings error obvious.. it underpaid me simply no wonder i keep losing like my butt off..

 

[kktmd]

Ahhh...right...in that case I vote for 284! If the wilds multiply, it's going to be a lot higher!

Nice win!

 

[clees42]

We only have one Saul (guy) in my book. 8 Aces and 4 10's

how do you figure so?

That game mode has normal wilds and split wilds. doesnt really make sense if they are the same.
even the help screen says that normal wild can transform into split wild to form more winning combinations.

 

[HIGHIQ]

how do you figure so?

That game mode has normal wilds and split wilds. doesnt really make sense if they are the same.
even the help screen says that normal wild can transform into split wild to form more winning combinations.

becos why other wise the double wild will be shoot? becos the game info says it... wins will be doubled with combinations made with double wilds

 

[kktmd]

how do you figure so?

That game mode has normal wilds and split wilds. doesnt really make sense if they are the same.
even the help screen says that normal wild can transform into split wild to form more winning combinations.

No, you're right - 8 Sauls!

 

[HIGHIQ]

how do you figure so?

That game mode has normal wilds and split wilds. doesnt really make sense if they are the same.
even the help screen says that normal wild can transform into split wild to form more winning combinations.

as i said i played this game so much i wagered over 250.000 i know i caught sometimes a weird moment thinkings its not correct... so less paid ect... at vegaspartnerlounge i wagered on 3 casino over 100.000 usd on this game lost like 5000-6000 usd on 3 usd spins.. seen things on this mode when double wild show up that i think its suspicous.. also lost like in couple hours 1500-2000 at 32 red at this slot.. only got bonus on my first daily offer bonus i start to complain they give me although 120 extra in bonus..not much for amount i lost some would have give 25% .. but they say i do overall well. lost also alot there the week before also 1500 lose on immortal romance with out anything extras...

 

[kktmd]

This is not correct.

Actually we have 2x2x2=8 x guy -> 160
27 x 5A -> 216
3x3x2=18 x 4oak 10 -> 18

so the total should be 394

Shouldn't Saul pay 30 per line at 3 $ bet? Can't access payable from my iPad. Or do you mean 394x3$ bet?

 

[HIGHIQ]

Shouldn't Saul pay 30 per line at 3 $ bet? Can't access payable from my iPad. Or do you mean 394x3$ bet?

5 of a kind saul is worth 20 usd on 3 usd spin and with those combinations it should be worth 160 usd

 

[HIGHIQ]

This is not correct.

Actually we have 2x2x2=8 x guy -> 160
27 x 5A -> 216
3x3x2=18 x 4oak 10 -> 18

so the total should be 394

this is a calculation that cross my mind aswell and i agree on this one...

but what all about the other double wilds pay out in other games? i been very active on this slot as u can read on the post i made i wager more 250.000usd on this game and iam down on this game over 5 figurs ...i know this is not casino fault its a screw up by the software provider.. and before i can complain about a game the casino allways wants u to have an ID number of the game.. there are so many since i know there is a error in this payout..

pls people or managers u got to know i have played one of ur casinos aswell.. what shall i do or what will need to happen to get the correction in my pays i have cross hundreds of this mode and double wilds moments... pls help me out .. with honest answer

 

[09237653]

Cant you just check the spin in playcheck?

 

[HIGHIQ]

HEY REALLY NO HELP OR USEFULL ANSWER TO ME WHAT TO DO AT PLACES I WAGER ON THIS GAME ALOT?
COS IT IS 100% THAT THIS GAME IS NOT PAYING CORRECTLY..

well i guess iam let down and left over the the destiny and in caged with those two giants that gonna eats me alive... i know i know bad english this is how i feel right now...thought here have people with alot experience and knows what to do and tell me what to do?!?

 

[HIGHIQ]

I don't think wild doubles your wins like IM? I doubt very much the machine would make a mistake!

Saul: 10 x 3$ x 1 line = 30
A : 4 x 3 $ x 8 line = 96
10 : 0,5 x 3$ x 4 line = 6
Total 142

for the record 30+96+6=142 ?? or 132

 

[dunover]

Assuming a wild doubles a base win, and wilds aren't cumulative you have:
You have 1 line 5oak aces x1
You have 7 lines 5oak aces x2
You have 1 line 5oak character x2
You have 4 lines 4oak tens x 2

SO AT BASE STAKE you have:
15x5oak [email protected] = 40-1
2x 5oak [email protected] = 13.33-1
8x4oak [email protected] =2.66-1

=EXACTLY 56-1
=EXACTLY $168 if playing a $3 stake.

Add your base stake to my table above plus the game awards for those lines and you should have your correct payout.
EDIT I have done this for you:
Above.

You have made a mistake in your interpretation of the paytable win-stake ratio.
The slot is correct.
End of.

 

[HIGHIQ]

OK here is the screenshot of the play check it say game pay 11.50??? wth lol .. now totally confused?

 

[HIGHIQ]

here is the second part of the page

 

[dunover]

I am CORRECT - I Challenge anyone to prove ortherwise.

Assuming a wild doubles a base win, and wilds aren't cumulative you have:
You have 1 line 5oak aces x1
You have 7 lines 5oak aces x2
You have 1 line 5oak character x2
You have 4 lines 4oak tens x 2

SO AT BASE STAKE you have:
15x5oak [email protected] = 40-1
2x 5oak [email protected] = 13.33-1
8x4oak [email protected] =2.66-1

=EXACTLY 56-1
=EXACTLY $168 if playing a $3 stake.

Add your base stake to my table above plus the game awards for those lines and you should have your correct payout.
EDIT I have done this for you:
Above.

You have made a mistake in your interpretation of the paytable win-stake ratio.
The slot is correct.
End of.


BTW Before you got the $168 spin, you got 70c by either getting 3 jacks or queens, hence your total shows 168.70.
To settle this issue, check the freespins BEFORE your $168 spin, and you'll see the 70c win.
This shows my reverse engineering is correct, as how could I know this otherwise?

The slot has paid you exactly to its paytable. Please drop any enquiry or complaint you are pursuing against the casino, as you'll look a numpty....

 

[HIGHIQ]

Assuming a wild doubles a base win, and wilds aren't cumulative you have:
You have 1 line 5oak aces x1
You have 7 lines 5oak aces x2
You have 1 line 5oak character x2
You have 4 lines 4oak tens x 2

SO AT BASE STAKE you have:
15x5oak [email protected] = 40-1
2x 5oak [email protected] = 13.33-1
8x4oak [email protected] =2.66-1

=EXACTLY 56-1
=EXACTLY $168 if playing a $3 stake.

Add your base stake to my table above plus the game awards for those lines and you should have your correct payout.
EDIT I have done this for you:
Above.

You have made a mistake in your interpretation of the paytable win-stake ratio.
The slot is correct.
End of.


BTW Before you got the $168 spin, you got 70c by either getting 3 jacks or queens, hence your total shows 168.70.
To settle this issue, check the freespins BEFORE your $168 spin, and you'll see the 70c win.
This shows my reverse engineering is correct, as how could I know this otherwise?

The slot has paid you exactly to its paytable. Please drop any enquiry or complaint you are pursuing against the casino, as you'll look a numpty....

lol ..LOL....

u are a magician..

that spin is my last spin of the freespin mode... i had other wins too from other spins in the freespin mode.. a total win is 168 not that single spin..

 

[HIGHIQ]

when each real has a factor that can multiply ofcourse its gonna be multiplied otherwise there wont be this factor... as they have also can make double wild in reel 2 and reel 3 single wild and single wild in reel 4 that is possible in this case they shoot reel 2,3,4 all double wild so this means those wilds has an added value it means when it goes throw that combination it will be doubled..

 

[KasinoKing]

Assuming a wild doubles a base win, and wilds aren't cumulative you have:
You have 1 line 5oak aces x1
You have 7 lines 5oak aces x2
You have 1 line 5oak character x2
You have 4 lines 4oak tens x 2

SO AT BASE STAKE you have:
15x5oak [email protected] = 40-1
2x 5oak [email protected] = 13.33-1
8x4oak [email protected] =2.66-1

=EXACTLY 56-1
=EXACTLY $168 if playing a $3 stake.

Add your base stake to my table above plus the game awards for those lines and you should have your correct payout.

You are completely correct - well done for solving this mystery!

What confuses people (including the OP and myself) is that the Pay-Table says the split wilds "Create more winning combinations"
THIS is the part of the slot which is WRONG!
It does not create MORE combinations, it just doubles the prize value of any combinations you hit.

This incorrect statement, along with previous experience on other split-symbol slots (such as NetEnt's Flowers and IGT's Noah's Arc) where each split symbol DOES count as two separate symbols, is why I thought this was how BSG was supposed to work.

But the rules clearly show that Dunover is correct:

 

[HIGHIQ]

You are completely correct - well done for solving this mystery!

What confuses people (including the OP and myself) is that the Pay-Table says the split wilds "Create more winning combinations"
THIS is the part of the slot which is WRONG!
It does not create MORE combinations, it just doubles the prize value of any combinations you hit.

This incorrect statement, along with previous experience on other split-symbol slots (such as NetEnt's Flowers and IGT's Noah's Arc) where each split symbol DOES count as two separate symbols, is why I thought this was how BSG was supposed to work.

But the rules clearly show that Dunover is correct:

so u are saying reel 2 has a double wild then reel 3 and reel 4 the double wild is worthless?? as i said earlier they can also shoot reel 2 double and reel 3 and 4 a single wild that case is that combination doubled once only now reel 3 and 4 has one too it has a factor it will double...

You are completely correct - well done for solving this mystery!

What confuses people (including the OP and myself) is that the Pay-Table says the split wilds "Create more winning combinations"
THIS is the part of the slot which is WRONG!
It does not create MORE combinations, it just doubles the prize value of any combinations you hit.

This incorrect statement, along with previous experience on other split-symbol slots (such as NetEnt's Flowers and IGT's Noah's Arc) where each split symbol DOES count as two separate symbols, is why I thought this was how BSG was supposed to work.

But the rules clearly show that Dunover is correct:

as it will double ok and split wild counts as a wild too so the sual character is 5 of kind is worth 20 usd
20x2 by reel two 20x2 by reel 3 and 20x2 by reel 4 is that now worth 120 only or is it 20 x2x2x2=160?

as it will double ok and split wild counts as a wild too so the sual character is 5 of kind is worth 20 usd
20x2 by reel two 20x2 by reel 3 and 20x2 by reel 4 is that now worth 120 only or is it 20 x2x2x2=160?

still it underpaid me as it is not correct at all... if u count all those aces...

 

[KasinoKing]

so u are saying reel 2 has a double wild then reel 3 and reel 4 the double wild is worthless??

It would appear so, yes.
Just the same as when you get more than one wild in Immortal Romance, or Thunderstruck 2: The win is only doubled once, not once for each wild.
It would have been less confusing if they just had a "Wild x 2" symbol instead of "Split Wild".
Pretty sloppy game design by MG's standards if you ask me...

KK

 

[HIGHIQ]

It would appear so, yes.
Just the same as when you get more than one wild in Immortal Romance, or Thunderstruck 2: The win is only doubled once, not once for each wild.
It would have been less confusing if they just had a "Wild x 2" symbol instead of "Split Wild".
Pretty sloppy game design by MG's standards if you ask me...

KK

they can shoot one single wild aswell if they shoot double it means it will get douibled...i have seen spins with this mixed some reels with double some with single...so when double it has a factor it means factor multiplied by 2

 

[KasinoKing]

as it will double ok and split wild counts as a wild too so the Saul character is 5 of kind is worth 20 usd
20x2 by reel two 20x2 by reel 3 and 20x2 by reel 4 is that now worth 120 only or is it 20 x2x2x2=160?

... still it underpaid me as it is not correct at all... if u count all those aces...

Slow down posting and read dunover's post again, thoroughly.

For the character (Saul) you only get ONE 5-of-a-kind @ $20, which is doubled due to having one (or more) doubling symbols (split wilds) in the combination = $40 total for that symbol.
The majority of your win DID come from all the "A" combinations.

KK

 

[HIGHIQ]

Slow down posting and read dunover's post again, thoroughly.

For the character (Saul) you only get ONE 5-of-a-kind @ $20, which is doubled due to having one (or more) doubling symbols (split wilds) in the combination = $40 total for that symbol.
The majority of your win DID come from all the "A" combinations.

KK

still it not match to the spin win.. i think that spin gave a win of 153 usd as i see the playcheck and total paid 168... how u get to 153 that is the question..

Slow down posting and read dunover's post again, thoroughly.

For the character (Saul) you only get ONE 5-of-a-kind @ $20, which is doubled due to having one (or more) doubling symbols (split wilds) in the combination = $40 total for that symbol.
The majority of your win DID come from all the "A" combinations.

KK

what if they shoot reel 2 double wild and reel 3 single and reel 4 double.. what would u think then??

 

[KasinoKing]

what if they shoot reel 2 double wild and reel 3 single and reel 4 double.. what would u think then??

Still the same payout for Saul.

Let me explain the rule (as I understand it) another way:
"Having one (or more) split wilds in the combination doubles your win"

KK

 

[HIGHIQ]

Still the same payout for Saul.

Let me explain the rule (as I understand it) another way:
"Having one (or more) split wilds in the combination doubles your win"

KK

ok then on this way.. u count the total win for this single spin as showing on the picture.. u tell me how much i should get describe with details how u calculated

 

[KasinoKing]

ok then on this way.. u count the total win for this single spin as showing on the picture.. u tell me how much i should get describe with details how u calculated

I've added the bold totals for each symbol:

Assuming a wild doubles a base win, and wilds aren't cumulative you have:
You have 1 line 5oak aces x1
You have 7 lines 5oak aces x2
You have 1 line 5oak character x2
You have 4 lines 4oak tens x 2

SO AT BASE STAKE you have:
15x5oak [email protected] = 40-1 = $120
2x 5oak [email protected] = 13.33-1 = $40
8x4oak [email protected] =2.66-1 = $8.00

=EXACTLY 56-1
=EXACTLY $168 if playing a $3 stake.

Add your base stake to my table above plus the game awards for those lines and you should have your correct payout.

KK

 

[HIGHIQ]

I've added the bold totals for each symbol:

KK

SIGH....

as i explained that 168 usd what u see is the endscore of all freespins together....that single spin i got like 140-145 as i thought ... and as u can see on the on the play check it say 153 usd is won on that spin....not 168 usd 168 is total of like maybe 10 freespins with those gun shooting getting extra spins...this spin u see on this shot was my last freespin of the freespin mode...

 

[dunover]

All that hard work and I never even got a thank-you from the revered hand of KK!
Never mind.
You need (OP) to be honest here and show us the freespin report preceding the 168 which has 3 q or 3 j which I predicted you would have, and must have had. This paid you the odd 70c.
Don't worry about the MG silly accounting system just because it split the win in the report - if you look at my report of the big Kings combo I got on TSII in the winner screenshots, the spin paid £525 but showed similar bizarre figures.
YOU HAVE BEEN PAID PROPERLY FOR THE WIN. IT IS CORRECT.

 

[HIGHIQ]

All that hard work and I never even got a thank-you from the revered hand of KK!
Never mind.
You need (OP) to be honest here and show us the freespin report preceding the 168 which has 3 q or 3 j which I predicted you would have, and must have had. This paid you the odd 70c.
Don't worry about the MG silly accounting system just because it split the win in the report - if you look at my report of the big Kings combo I got on TSII in the winner screenshots, the spin paid £525 but showed similar bizarre figures.
YOU HAVE BEEN PAID PROPERLY FOR THE WIN. IT IS CORRECT.

U GUYS PROBALY NOT READ WHAT I WRITE!!!

SIGH....

as i explained that 168 usd what u see is the endscore of all freespins together....that single spin i got like 140-145 as i thought ... and as u can see on the on the play check it say 153 usd is won on that spin....not 168 usd 168 is total of like maybe 10 freespins with those gun shooting getting extra spins...this spin u see on this shot was my last freespin of the freespin mode...

ONCE AGAIN!!!!!! WHAT U SEE 168 IS NOT FROM THAT SPIN ITS THE TOTALLL OF ALL FREESPINS... AS U NOT KNOW THE GAME LAST SPIN SHOW TOTAL WIN AT ONCE AND THEN IT STOP... THAT MONEY U SEE IS FROM 12 SPINS OR SO...U KNOW WHAT
I GONNA MAKE ALL SCREENSHOT FROM THAT FREESPIN MODE.. THAT WILL SHOW U , U HAVE NO CLUE HOW AND WHY AND U CALCLUTIONS IS TOTALLY WRONG..

 

[mattsgame]

U GUYS PROBALY NOT READ WHAT I WRITE!!!

Wow, in every thread I have seen you posting in you cannot get along with anyone or take in anything anyone has said to you. So maybe it is you who is not listening to the information provided to you from the information you have put in the thread

ONCE AGAIN!!!!!! WHAT U SEE 168 IS NOT FROM THAT SPIN ITS THE TOTALLL OF ALL FREESPINS... AS U NOT KNOW THE GAME LAST SPIN SHOW TOTAL WIN AT ONCE AND THEN IT STOP... THAT MONEY U SEE IS FROM 12 SPINS OR SO...U KNOW WHAT
I GONNA MAKE ALL SCREENSHOT FROM THAT FREESPIN MODE.. THAT WILL SHOW U , U HAVE NO CLUE HOW AND WHY AND U CALCLUTIONS IS TOTALLY WRONG..

Why did you not do this in the first place?

BTW i am doing my maths atm and for some reason I am coming up shorter than what most people have worked out here, so if I am correct then this might explain your full payout for the spins.

I am at $113 for that spin alone.. I am just double checking a few things as it looks like I am way off other peoples maths

 

[HIGHIQ]

Wow, in every thread I have seen you posting in you cannot get along with anyone or take in anything anyone has said to you. So maybe it is you who is not listening to the information provided to you from the information you have put in the thread



Why did you not do this in the first place?

u got a point here.. and sorry guys for the caps.. working now on the screenshots playcheck freespin mode..

 

[HIGHIQ]

ok this is first when the planes come and freespin start its worth 15usd

 

[HIGHIQ]

this is spin 2 of freespinmode no result

 

[HIGHIQ]

this is 3th freespin worth some too

 

[HIGHIQ]

spin 4 no resultOld Attachment (Invalid)