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Karate Pig - new MG slot

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What do we think of this then?

As far as I can tell it isn't a clone of any other 40-slot MG game, and looking at the paytables, seems to be a bit of a spicy medium-high variance affair too.

Top win on the base reels is 2000x stake if you get a full set of stacked wilds, but the bonus free spins round doubles all wins, so a full set of stacked wilds is going to be 4000x stake, which is pretty chunky.

As you'd expect with it having these big wins on the paytable, the pays for the lesser symbols on the reels drop off very sharply.

Got it running at the moment, not hit a bonus or free spins round yet, will see how it goes - but I think this slot could be a bit of a bumpy ride.......

Certainly liking the graphics, music and sound though, even if I haven't won anything yet :D
 
I wouldn't categorise a slot with a 2000X win on the base reels and a 4000X win on the free spins round as low variance?

That said, I have played a good few hundred spins through it now and it's certainly starting to feel more like a medium variance machine, so I did perhaps call it wrong at medium-high.
 
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Videos of the two base bonus rounds and also the mega-pig bonus round on my YouTube channel now, will grab the FINAL SHOWDOWN later on this evening hopefully.

The forums won't let me include more than one video link in a single post, otherwise I'd just link them directly into this post.

Here's the Hammer Bonus though:



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As I invariably do when a new slot is released I gave Karate Pig a reasonably thorough test run, after hitting the 1st main bonus feature I noticed it had several stages, and thinking as you do, I set out to cap this feature hoping each stage would rise in return, the 1st stage yielded x25 bet size, it wasn`t long before I hit it again and the second attempt was x53 bet size, which obviously looked to me that each stage would increase in returns, but alas, this wasn`t the case as each of the next returns upto brown belt yielded exactly x25 bet size and brown belt (2nd from last) gave x53 again.

It took me exactly 1200 spins to finally land the last feature and cap it (black belt) here we had a rather fun 3 stage fight routine with a reward of x50 bet size if you won all three, which I only won stage 3 lol, but received x25 bet for my efforts.

In 1200 spins I only once hit the scatters on reels 1 and 5 for the free spin features, this returned a rather meagre x14.5 bet size.

Now the main points and open play hits, it has come to my attention that ever since the restriction of our American friends, that any new slots released by MGS came with very high jackpots but seemingly impossible to hit, however, over the past few months I have noticed similar slots released (Immortal Romance) that were like their counterparts but were producing way better main feature returns, in the 1st week of playing IR I equalled my all time record of x3 reels wild on TSII and both came with far better returns, I have yet to hit 4 reels wild, but, the screenshot section is awash with awesome IR hits including a most recent all 5 reels wild jackpot hit.

The reason I mention all this is thus, Karate Pig comes with an 80,000 coin jackpot which to my best belief is by far the biggest video slot jackpot on offer, with a maximum (unlike the others) x10 coin bet size with a maximum possible bet size of £20 a spin which in turn and if I have done my maths correctly gives a possible maximum win of £400,000, with all this in mind do MGS know something about the world market that we do not?, here`s hoping they do ;).

So, it`s one thing having the probability of huge open play hits, but it`s an entirely different ball game in hitting them, do we finally have a mega paying slot that is not entirely feature dependant on getting huge hits?, I say early signs indicate that yes, we do.........

My 1st hit, I was down around £1500 when I hit this beauty......


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And not to many spins after I hit this jaw dropper....


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Both those wins indicating that this is indeed a high variance slot, you aint going to get a hit like that second one on medium range slots without hitting the jackpot.

Footnote:- I am really gutted that Nate cannot play at MGS anymore, this slot is tailor made for him :(.
 
Interesting write-up there Seventh :)

I pegged this at medium-high in my original post, modified back down to medium but now I'm coming back around to medium-high again, having had it spinning for most of the evening.

The bonus 'karate' rounds are almost a distraction, the free spins round is going to be the mega-payer on this with stacked wilds at 2x pay.

Overall, yes, the big wins are going to come on the base game with the stacked wilds ('open play' as you refer to it) or with those same stacked wilds in free spins. (Same as all slots though, it seems to use different reels for free spins with less in the way of stacked wilds on them.)

Not had any good hits on it like you have though, my bankroll is look poorly lol :D

EDIT, just seen you're in practice play - (Also, you really play £20 per spin with real money?)
 
Interesting write-up there Seventh :)

I pegged this at medium-high in my original post, modified back down to medium but now I'm coming back around to medium-high again, having had it spinning for most of the evening.

The bonus 'karate' rounds are almost a distraction, the free spins round is going to be the mega-payer on this with stacked wilds at 2x pay.

Overall, yes, the big wins are going to come on the base game with the stacked wilds ('open play' as you refer to it) or with those same stacked wilds in free spins. (Same as all slots though, it seems to use different reels for free spins with less in the way of stacked wilds on them.)

Not had any good hits on it like you have though, my bankroll is look poorly lol :D

EDIT, just seen you're in practice play - (Also, you really play £20 per spin with real money?)

As far as playing £20 a spin with real money goes, yes I would if my balance allowed it, my highest ever slot win was due to a £15 spin on LotR ;)..........


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I always test a new or old slot in demo play before I play it for real, this slot is definitely on my to do list ;).
 
Well Karate Pig has bust me out this evening, taken out a £320 peak bankroll at 40p play :(

Also had me bust out of Betway within 4% of meeting the WR on their initial match-up deposit.

Oh well, there is always another day :) Although I've had enough of 30x deposit WRs, just too hard to get through with anything left intact. 25x is pushing it, 20x seems about fair.

As for Karate Pig itself, definitely medium variance, and I think I'll come back full circle to my original verdict, and call it at medium to high.

Since I never chase losses, I'll call it a night and go to bed :Angel:
 
Why does it feel like I have to meet a WR before I get a bonus on the newer MGS slots :rolleyes: This slot seems to trigger a bonus every 400x spins and yet to see the free spins bonus.But that said I cant complain as I had many wins between 50-100xbet in normal spins.

Also, every so often a spin seems to take in excess of 10 seconds to land.May just be the casino but happens only on this slot.
 
I will say I was wrong, I will agree higher variance, I played this slot earlier for about 1800 spins, my bankroll didnt fluctuate much, playing now, totally different story. I dont think big wins will be easy to come by though.

Yeah that was exactly how my session went last night, started off with £270, climbed to a max of £320, held steady at £300+ for ages and then it went cold, I mean properly ice cold - and sucked down my entire bankroll at the low stake of 40p play.

I certainly never got close to seeing anything like the stacked wilds wins that Seventh posted earlier in this thread.

Going with 3Dice slots tonight, I got annoyed by Karate Pig last night and I fancy a change of scenery (I only stuck with it so long 'cause I was trying to finish the WR at betway, and managed to bust out with over £7000 of a £7500 WR completed......).
 
Just hit my 400th spin without any sign of a bonus :p
deposited £100 and still hovering around that amount so seems pretty low variance so far....

It's definitely on the high side of medium variance, the paytable alone with those stacked wilds tells you that much.

Just wait until it runs cold like it did for me last night, it gets very depressing very quickly :eek:
 
@Seventh777 - I'm gutted too.. You don't understand how much :(

Thinking of quitting altogether .. Been playing for 2 weeks plus and depositing every single day at Playtech and the best I could win was 500x bet (Elektra) posted in the Winner Screenshots ... Hit two Marvel jackpots also for around 400Euro each but the thrill ain't there... Playing up to 10Euro a spin and a 'Good Hit' is 100x bet.

Already a VIP at some Playtechs but feels like the lowest Tier on MG....

I want my Thirty Two ... Red..... (To Tune of Money For Nothin')

Nate
 
Just been having my first bash on this - definitely seems to be very LOW variance so far.

Took me 478 spins to get the 15 Free-spins @ x2 - which paid a pathetic bet x 16...:(
HOWEVER, several good hits in normal spins & reasonable pick features meant I made £85 during my play up to & including the free-spins.
(Betting mostly 80p/spin)

So early verdict: I like it! :thumbsup:

KK
 
Just been having my first bash on this - definitely seems to be very LOW variance so far.

Took me 478 spins to get the 15 Free-spins @ x2 - which paid a pathetic bet x 16...:(
HOWEVER, several good hits in normal spins & reasonable pick features meant I made £85 during my play up to & including the free-spins.
(Betting mostly 80p/spin)

So early verdict: I like it! :thumbsup:

KK

That was my first impression as well, next session was brutal, free spins are a pretty tough find.
 
@Seventh777 - I'm gutted too.. You don't understand how much :(

Thinking of quitting altogether .. Been playing for 2 weeks plus and depositing every single day at Playtech and the best I could win was 500x bet (Elektra) posted in the Winner Screenshots ... Hit two Marvel jackpots also for around 400Euro each but the thrill ain't there... Playing up to 10Euro a spin and a 'Good Hit' is 100x bet.

Already a VIP at some Playtechs but feels like the lowest Tier on MG....

I want my Thirty Two ... Red..... (To Tune of Money For Nothin')

Nate

Oh I do understand, i`m surprised you haven`t found a new home with the NetEnt pure`s, this slot has all the characteristics of low to medium variance then it starts to eat your balance, and just like a true high variance, this period of no or very small returns will or will not be rewarded with a huge hit, the soft jackpot pays slightly higher than the hard jackpot on IR for a slightly higher minimal bet size, here`s to hoping your MGS exclusion period is one of very short length ;).
 
I think Iam gonna avoid this one from now on,too many dead spins and no bonuses. Ate my £60 balance in 200 £0.40 spins.It seems to be high variance every time I play it.
I will stick with BDBA for a high variance slot at least I get free spins.

Does anybody know anything about the new Batman slot? Iam looking for something to keep me interested in MGS.
 
Videos of the two base bonus rounds and also the mega-pig bonus round on my YouTube channel now, will grab the FINAL SHOWDOWN later on this evening hopefully.

The forums won't let me include more than one video link in a single post, otherwise I'd just link them directly into this post.

Here's the Hammer Bonus though:



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lol how cute neato
 
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Batman slot? Do you mean the Crypto Batman?

No I think MGS have signed a deal to release a new Batman slot to coincide with the new film being released in the summer.But I have never seen anything metioned about it,I thought there would have been a preview by now.
 
800 spins no free spins or features

so cant really comment to much lol :eek2:

This slot is the reason I've decided to take a break from MG casinos for a while, (along with their mandatory 10GB install and mystery massive updates to their software that come with no explanation whatsoever), I'm just sick of the 'suction' that they seem to do sometimes, where you really feel like you're having to pay for bonuses and features.

Yes I know it's random numbers, and I know it's how medium-high variance slots work, and I know I've even posted myself to an MG thread saying 'It's just random numbers!' - but MG slots just aren't feeling right to me of late, so I'm taking a break from them.
 
I found the slot seemed to get stuck fairly often with endlessly spinning reels.

I lost a small amount of money both times I played. I've had one pork chop bonus the first time I played, which I thought paid okay for a pick feature. It quickly ate the win and some additional funds without anything else.

Second session, I had a couple of "Big Wins" in the $8-$10 range that gave me a little time, a freespin bonus after around 170 spins that left me down only a little (around $25 as I recall), followed by a steep decline. I didn't ride it out.

I can't see it becoming one of my favourites. I find the colours a little garish, and the music and sound effects don't really turn my crank.
 
Its not a bad slot but its hardly innovative. I wish these new slot game releases with multi tiered next level bonuses actually rewarded you a benefit for gaining the next level. In reality there is little point whatsoever in having different coloured belts since there are no additonal rewards. Bit pointless really.
 
On the subject of variance, the best way to tell in my experience is the gap in pays between 4oak and 5oak. The bigger the gap, the higher the variance is likely to be. That's not "gospel" as there are other factors in play (for example, stacked wilds, 2x wild pays and more than one feature tends to lower the variance) but it is a strong indicator.
 
I don't think they could weight the bonus rounds could they? Otherwise it would be an inducement to carry on playing what is supposed to be a random game.

In fact, I'm trying to think of any online slot where you progress to better prizes and I can't think of one. TS2/IR for example unlock the different various bonus rounds over time, but in my experience they're all capable of paying the same sorts of ranges.
 
I don't think they could weight the bonus rounds could they? Otherwise it would be an inducement to carry on playing what is supposed to be a random game.

In fact, I'm trying to think of any online slot where you progress to better prizes and I can't think of one. TS2/IR for example unlock the different various bonus rounds over time, but in my experience they're all capable of paying the same sorts of ranges.

Iam pretty sure there is one actually where, as you progress, you get awarded a better RTP. The downside is I am struggling to remember what it is LOL. I think it's new...if I remember I'll pop back!
 
Are you thinking of Wealth Spa? Most likely the average pay of each of the different bonus rounds is equal when divided by amount of tokens needed to activate it but it does let you store your bonus rounds to get one bigger at the end.

Nah it wasn't that one. I was speaking to someone recently and they were telling me about it being due out or I was reading about it somewhere but I can't remember yet. I'm sure it had levels... :cool:
 
I know for example, with Argyle Open, you dont get the free spins til 3rd round, and with Great Galaxy Grab there's a reward for finishing all the bonuses
In my (fairly extensive) experience playing these two:

With The Argyle Open, the two random bonus rounds before the free-spins often pay more than the free-spins themselves!

On Galaxy Grab the POTENTIAL maximum win DOES increase with each feature (see paytable below), but I have always found feature 1 and 3 consistently pay more than the other rounds. The worst ones are numbers 4 and 6 - especially 6 as it is possible to pick "End Feature" on your very first go! :(
The "Happy Ending" bonus never seems to be big enough to make ME happy... :rolleyes:

KK
 

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Had the best wins on the Diner & Casino in galaxy grab with max win for my bets .... followed by the almost guaranteed unhappy ending, 3 or 4 times picked end bonus on 2nd pick


Back to the bacon, giving this a crack tomorrow, see how i fair.
 
Well, it makes sense if the RTP is constant between bonus rounds that the one that have potential to pay more will often pay less. The later bonus rounds have bigger variance but the RTP is very likely the same as anything else would cause a lot of problems.

I completely agree and strongly believe that for these type of games all features have the same theoretical RTP. Too many theoretical problems would appear if that was not the case.
 
biggest robbing slot ever

ive played nearly 4000 spins over 3 casinos on karate pig..ive had one feature and no free spins

even BDBA on its worst day does not come close to how bad this slot is....

my biggest in game win was 11.40 playing at .40 a spin......this is a shamefull addition to MG slots..

i do hope other people are finding it a touch more generous
 
I believe this slot to be in the category of `im going to rob you blind until I feel like giving one lucky person the ride of their life` :p
There are a few slots like this in my opinion. I used to feel the same way about Hearts and Tarts, could never get a win on it to save my life until one day I hit 4 stacked columns of wild on the free spins. Ive never seen it since but I had one hell of a good session that day lol
 

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