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Just won close to 12000 at casino 365, playing black jack and war

bethug said:
jpm, you call me out, I dont even see you. Did you make it to the top ten at in intercasino tourment?

To all the people that that i was full of crap, please take a look at intercasino tourment ranking. Jpm this cost me more than 25 dollars, the time i spent missing with the tourment, i could have won 2000 or 3000 in real money

They were down for a while last nite, but I finally managed to get in and start playing a bit. I'm up to 1500 - 1600 range, but not on the board yet. Still working at it though.

And if your unbeatable system works, you will win 3000 in real money at the end when you're in first place. Shouldn't be a problem for the hoodsystem!
 
BETHUG is at $4510.00

UNF***INGBELIEVABLE.


He may not come in first. But, he sure did prove to me that what ever system he uses...

DOES WORK!!!!!!
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Playing in Vegas I noticed that my big BJ wins have always been related to tables where everybody was playing like idiots.
I guess that all softwares are created with the expectations of facing players that are supposed to play by the book.
Maybe the secret of our valliant Bethug is the breaking of the rules of common sense (against all odds...).
The only critic I can make, if he's really making so much money, is that it should be better to keep a very low profile.
Technically casinos are the enemy: in land based casinos many players try to keep unnoticed. Online it's not possible: one more reason not to make the world know about your winnings... :D
 
Vesuvio said:
Yes, you can win at BJ. Yes, his progressive staking system is even more likely to win money in the short term (I'd have my money on him for a BJ tournament! :notworthy ). But NO........ it's no better than flat betting in the long term, the casino has an edge & the longer you play the more certain it is that eventually you'll have lost money.

Good luck to Bethug, but the fewer of these threads he posts the better.

Is it too early to say I told you so? :)
 
padanian said:
The only critic I can make, if he's really making so much money, is that it should be better to keep a very low profile.
Technically casinos are the enemy: in land based casinos many players try to keep unnoticed. Online it's not possible: one more reason not to make the world know about your winnings... :D

Now that I can agree with. I have never posted my winnings. I was playing a certain online casino, winning every week and they locked my account after a couple months. They sent me an email saying "You truly are an excellent BJ player and have shown this consistently. We have decided to lock your account until all due balances are paid." They do not like when you win on a regular basis. Every once and a while it is ok because it keeps you coming back, but man if you win all the time you are not welcome. I must note that I had never claimed a bonus, just played straight Bj with my own money. So I say to bethug, don't be surprised if you eventually get locked out.
 
lanidar said:
BETHUG is at $4510.00 UNF***INGBELIEVABLE. He may not come in first. But, he sure did prove to me that what ever system he uses...
DOES WORK!!!!!

Good going, Damian - it doesn't prove a lot, though. There's a story I read in one of the Scoblete books about an old fellow who racked up $1,000,000 from a $400 stake at one of the Wynn casinos - and gave it all back. I'm sure their are many others.

Success doesn't vindicate losing systems, no more than the lack thereof disproves winning systems; their efficacy or worthlessness are not based on those criteria.
 
caruso said:
Good going, Damian - it doesn't prove a lot, though. There's a story I read in one of the Scoblete books about an old fellow who racked up $1,000,000 from a $400 stake at one of the Wynn casinos - and gave it all back. I'm sure their are many others.

Success doesn't vindicate losing systems, no more than the lack thereof disproves winning systems; their efficacy or worthlessness are not based on those criteria.

It is clear that no matter what you do people will never be satisfied bethug. You could win $5,000,000 playing BJ and people will still say, "that does not prove anything, it's just luck". Tis is a revolving door. Who cares anyways, you did not even need to enter the tournament, as you have no need to prove anything to anyone. If you win good for you.
 
lanidar said:
BETHUG is at $4510.00

UNF***INGBELIEVABLE.


He may not come in first. But, he sure did prove to me that what ever system he uses...

DOES WORK!!!!!!
Dollar-02.gif

Er....what is it with the big lettering? You're not on drugs right? :p
 
Black21Jack said:
It is clear that no matter what you do people will never be satisfied bethug. You could win $5,000,000 playing BJ and people will still say, "that does not prove anything, it's just luck". Tis is a revolving door. Who cares anyways, you did not even need to enter the tournament, as you have no need to prove anything to anyone. If you win good for you.

If bbug wins this tournament or does well, it proves that he was lucky and knows how to play the game. If he wins the next 9 out of 10 tournaments, then I would believe that he has a "system" that works. Bottom line is that anyone can win a tournament once, and maybe Intercasino flipped the switch so that bbug would win so that all the suckers out their that believe they can beat the house consistently with a "system" will jump on the dumbo bandwagon and throw their money away testing it at Intercasino or Crystal Palace. There it is, I figured it all out, BBUG IS A SPY WHO WORKS FOR INTERCASINO, IT IS A Conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
jpm, where you at at number 4 right now. Dont matter , if i show logs, screen shots, even do well in the tourment you call me out on, some people still hate.

All the members of casinomeister,i will give a discount on the hoodsystem 3000, just 20,000 before july 13, after july 13 back up too 40,000. :)
Call 1800 hoodsystem 3000
 
LOL~, bethug. No matter what do you try to say or prove. People who believe you or not, it really doesn't matter. If you really make such good income, good job! Make sure you save for good use~ :cool: It will be really nice to help some charity.

Take it easy. Treat this as a fun entertainment (like this post above :D )Take your family out for a nice meal or vacation.... ;)

Have a great weekend!
 
caruso said:
Good going, Damian - it doesn't prove a lot, though. There's a story I read in one of the Scoblete books about an old fellow who racked up $1,000,000 from a $400 stake at one of the Wynn casinos - and gave it all back. I'm sure their are many others.

Success doesn't vindicate losing systems, no more than the lack thereof disproves winning systems; their efficacy or worthlessness are not based on those criteria.

Then there is the story of Oscar. This craps player never lost in Vegas over the 20 years he visited. Is it possible? Oscar was discussed in Dr. Wilson's now out of print "The Casino Gambler's Guide". It is possible. Wilson had Julian Braun run computer analysis on the system. He found that at a $1 craps table a player would only reach the maximum system bet of $500 only once in 4,250 sessions on average. So Oscar may never have lost. Had he kept playing, a losing session on a $1 table would have been close to $13,000.

Stanford
 
bethug said:
jpm, where you at at number 4 right now. Dont matter , if i show logs, screen shots, even do well in the tourment you call me out on, some people still hate.

All the members of casinomeister,i will give a discount on the hoodsystem 3000, just 20,000 before july 13, after july 13 back up too 40,000. :)
Call 1800 hoodsystem 3000

I'm not on the board, ran out of time and didn't make enough to place. Though I did pretty well, nearly doubling my play money. I still don't think its an unbeatable system, otherwise you'd be at #1 right now, but 4th is still pretty good. :cheers:
 
jpm, the point is i bet the casino, i happy to see others win. I called out flat bettors, i am sure the number one spot didnt flat bet. You called me out to go head up , and i bet you at the game you called out.

If i can make a few thousand a week 80% of the time to me that unbeatable.

Once again, i will go head to head with any flat bettor. jpm will u send my 100 bucks or not :eek2: Lets take 500 and go head up at inetbecasino
 
bethug said:
jpm, the point is i bet the casino, i happy to see others win. I called out flat bettors, i am sure the number one spot didnt flat bet. You called me out to go head up , and i bet you at the game you called out.

If i can make a few thousand a week 80% of the time to me that unbeatable.

Once again, i will go head to head with any flat bettor. jpm will u send my 100 bucks or not :eek2: Lets take 500 and go head up at inetbecasino

Yeah, and I beat the casino too. Doesn't prove a thing other than progressive betting can make more money quicker than flat betting. However, in the long run, it will probably lose more faster. I'm not going heads up anywhere with any real money because as I said many times, I'm not the one claming to have the unbeatable system. I only accepted this challenge let you show us how well the hoodsystem 3000 works. The $100 will be delivered by intercasino around the 31st when the tournament ends ;)
 
Progressive betting in blackjack can be exciting.. you can win a ton.. but also lose, i back down when losing, go up when winning.. usually do not lose unless I chase a big hand that was lost ( quite often ) .. won $28k on grand banks with $600 and the same night was playing the casinos in San Jose .. won $22,000 with another $600 .. then the next day.. lost most of it at both online & land casinos.

Best thing to do is when you win big and its starting to turn.. walk away, but most gamblers don't have the discipline.

You are basically just averaging your bets when playing progressively, but if you leave at the right time, can be very profitable.
 
If you don't take out at least your deposit when you doubled (or more) your money, then you will lose eventually unless you stop sensibly. To guarantee your win, you have to take out your deposit + some extra cash. Money management is absolutely crucial to winning money.
 
bethug said:
sw2003, money management is the key and not taken every bonus given.

Also on them micro casinos dont go back and recall your cash out.


I know. I hardly ever reverse my cash out! I hope to keep this up!

By the way, bethug, I gathered that you did not win the tournement but being able to quadruple your money from the initial $1000 is still pretty good in my book.
 
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The psychological battle

"The toughest fight is not against percentage or finding a winning system. Acquiring the knowledge or the capital is not the hardest job. To win the main battle you have to master just one person - yourself." - L.G. Holloway.

I can't remember how many times I have lost control in the course of the battle and lost all the bonus and deposit becaue I can't master myself.

I believe bethug does have a winning system (but NOT unbeatable system). Many of you do too, I believe.
 
sw2003 said:
Money management is absolutely crucial to winning money.

Totally incorrect. Money management is crucial to limiting your losses, because it slows down your play. Whether your name is John Patrick or Damian Dunlap, money management has no effect on the outcome of a given dollar amount of wagering.

Vegas was built, amongst many other things, on committed "money managers".
 
caruso said:
Totally incorrect. Money management is crucial to limiting your losses, because it slows down your play. Whether your name is John Patrick or Damian Dunlap, money management has no effect on the outcome of a given dollar amount of wagering.

Vegas was built, amongst many other things, on committed "money managers".

Amen brother.
 
bethug said:
sw2003, money management is the key and not taken every bonus given.

Also on them micro casinos dont go back and recall your cash out.

The key is to only play with a bonus, it is an unbeatable system.
 
sw2003, i didnt win the tourment, i never said i would, I did say i can bet flat bettors. Thanks sw2003. I made 3200 yesterday, so i am done for this week.

If you think u need a bonus to win, then you need to pratice.

When i say unbeatable, it slang does not mean i win everytime i play, just i win 80% of the time.
 
"If you think u need a bonus to win, then you need to pratice."

"practice" On that note I am going to practice fliping a coin until it comes up heads 80% of the time, I am going to practice picking lottary numbers until I win it 80% of the time. And just when I thought BJ was a game of chance.
 
chucho said:
"If you think u need a bonus to win, then you need to pratice."

"practice" On that note I am going to practice fliping a coin until it comes up heads 80% of the time, I am going to practice picking lottary numbers until I win it 80% of the time. And just when I thought BJ was a game of chance.

Hahahahaha........well said chucho.
 
caruso said:
Totally incorrect. Money management is crucial to limiting your losses, because it slows down your play. Whether your name is John Patrick or Damian Dunlap, money management has no effect on the outcome of a given dollar amount of wagering.

Vegas was built, amongst many other things, on committed "money managers".

Hey if you stop being so cynical and negative all the time, may be you would win something too for a change. If you do not believe that one can win, why are you still visiting this forum, I wonder? Why are you still here? I doubt that you admire the literature on this forum so much that you want to come back time and again. If you have no other life, then do come back.
 
sw2003 said:
Hey if you stop being so cynical and negative all the time, may be you would win something too for a change. If you do not believe that one can win, why are you still visiting this forum, I wonder?

I agree! It's what I have been saying for a long time. But it's not just one person. I think that we may be the people who should be asked why we keep coming back as it is clear that a positive attitude, excitment for winning, or any kind of enjoyment for online gambling is not welcome here. Just negativity.
 
i think the people overall on this board is postive, i dont pay no attention to caurso, i been looking at his rants for over 4 years. caurso wins big money, he just dont know how to talk to people and he has alot of information. I think he to old to change just over look the negative stuff he says.


blackjack have u tried casino365? please do, you can bet from 1 to 1000 and i believe the black jack is fair, compare to rtg right now.
 
Bethug Questions

Hi all,
I've read this thread through twice. A newbie's perspective and questions:

1. i was thrilled when he posted his big win, because I kept wondering if anyone won at online casinos

2. of course, I'd love to know the make-up of his "3000 system" so that I could stop uniformly losing; it would make sense that if that happened via use of his strategies then he should be compensated in some way (though I understand that that should be in the commercial section) However, if i read others correctly, there is no idea or strategy other than using the "basic" combined with luck because of immutable mathematic principles, yes?

3. tone is terribly hard to convey in email and easy to misunderstand

Questions:
Could someone please explain the term "flatbetting?"
 
Flat betting is just betting the same amount each hand.

There are lots of systems like Bethug's for progressive betting. They tend to increase your stake when you lose a hand until eventually you win.

The most famous is the Martingale system. Bet $1 - if you lose bet $2, then 4, then 8 etc. etc. until eventually you win a hand and win that $1.

The problem is you end up betting huge amounts of money and going beyond your bank/the table limits just to win a dollar.

e.g. if you lose ten hands in a row (quite possible) flat betting $5 you've lost $50. If you're using the Martingale system you've lost over $5000.

In the short term these systems work as it's rare to lose so many hands in a row, but in the end you give it all back and more with one big loss. The only way to win at blackjack is to be lucky or to play with the bonuses (but the casinos all seem to be phasing these out around now).
 
you dont need no bonus to win, if the software is fair you dont need a bonus.

You need to know money managemnt and you need to know when to quit. Also set goals

I have not seen one rich flat bettor, flat betting is lucky to me.

If i depoist 1000 dollars i will turn into 2000 in less than a day or i might just might win 300 and cash out. and feed off the 1000 for two weeks.

You have to know the basic rules and dont play drunk and angry and dont bet crazy or chase losses. Dont chase losses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
 
Bethug, I'm not suggesting flat betting as a system! Played with bonuses it's made lots of people a lot of money at almost no risk, but without them of course you're expected to lose.

The point is you're also just as guaranteed to lose in the long run with your system!

At least if someone flatbets and wins money they accept they were lucky & might walk away with the winnings - with your approach people fool themselves that they've found a way to beat the casinos & then eventually go and lose much more money than they won.

Why do you think casinos offer free rooms and incentives to people who bet like you do? Or do you really think you've beaten the casinos and no-one else spotted it!?? Do you think card counters would go to all that trouble if a simple staking system would win them more money with much less effort!????

Ok, that's enough hitting my head against a brick wall for this lifetime!!!! :D
 
summertime said:
Also, I'm not sure why bonuses are referred to as bad. When I go to sign up as a new player at the Phoenician, for example, I should not take advantage of their free money?

Bonuses aren't necessarily bad summertime, they just impose restrictions on your money. When you accept a bonus, you then have to play by the casino's restrictions on what games you can play, how much you need to play before you can withdraw, and in some cases, a limit on how much you can withdraw. Many places don't allow blackjack wagering when you get a bonus. Some only allow slots wagering, which means you're basically giving away your deposit unless you get very lucky while trying to wager 15-20x your deposit + wager on slots.

Just be crystal clear on the rules that apply to the bonus BEFORE you wager a cent. Print a copy of the rules, save a copy on your hard drive or whatever. Then keep a record of your wagering in case there's a dispute. And if you don't like a bonus, you can always tell the casino to remove it, but you have to do it before you play a single hand.
 

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