Jumers Casino, IL Bans Player for Life

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This clip was briefly mentioned on UK television earlier in a programme about people with mobile phones being arrested or 'asked to leave' while filming. Seems to be happening more and more these days even in public places.

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So, the OP was filming a slot machine win (something which happens hundreds of times a week - check youtube). A casino receives publicity from these videos and of course they make money from people using the slots in the first place.

Was this lifetime ban justified and what is wrong with filming just a slot machine?
 
I've asked about this previously in one of my local b'n'm casinos and (aside for the expected security/cheating related aspects) one of the surprising reasons is to do with other customers.
ie that their big time player customers don't like being filmed and don't appreciate slot games being filmed close to them.

Certainly here in the west of scotland for example, there is a culture of more traditional regulars (particularly older Chinese women) playing far higher stakes on the slots than any of the other players so I could understand why their experience is prioritised.
 
It's usually polite to ask permission to film in other people's premises. TV companies (unless undercover) always request permission. As 243 said, some patrons may not be comfortable with cameras around them even if they aren't the subject. We get little enough privacy nowadays as it is, without being in the background of someone's YT videos. If it's house rules, don't do it! If you don't like that, go elsewhere.
 
I can fully understand that other players do not want to be filmed while playing in a B&M, even if it's the tip of their nose:)

However, all the videos I've seen of slot machines only feature the slot machine, (sometimes) accompanied by the player's yells, but that's all, I've never seen a person's face. I assume that casino management wants to exclude the risk of accidentally capturing another player.
 
I have seen this video before. The player actually could have prevented being banned if he was cooperative and deleted the video right away, rather than arguing with them .
 
Perhaps I've been watching too many of the 'Oceans 11' series, but there may be other security concerns at play. The surreptitious (word of the day) filming of staff, money carts moving or anything like that may also be a cause for concern.

Plus, what if the mobile phone is actually concealing some super Hi-tech magnet lazer thing that.... Hey Dunover, got a spare hat handy? :)
 
Perhaps I've been watching too many of the 'Oceans 11' series, but there may be other security concerns at play. The surreptitious (word of the day) filming of staff, money carts moving or anything like that may also be a cause for concern.

Plus, what if the mobile phone is actually concealing some super Hi-tech magnet lazer thing that.... Hey Dunover, got a spare hat handy? :)

Now THAT is brilliant Ian. I am fed up with churning them out in gold or silver with or without antenna. The range needs modernizing, and what better idea than a concealed micro-cam in the antenna. Obviously this would point in line with where the wearer was looking at the time, and they can film slots to their heart's desire. I'm onto it........
 
Now THAT is brilliant Ian. I am fed up with churning them out in gold or silver with or without antenna. The range needs modernizing, and what better idea than a concealed micro-cam in the antenna. Obviously this would point in line with where the wearer was looking at the time, and they can film slots to their heart's desire. I'm onto it........

This is the problem. All this draconian attitude will do is scare people who just want to film their bonus rounds into using concealed cameras, if they don't do so already. Where there has been cheating, it seems that it has ALWAYS involved a concealed camera, as clearly filming with your phone attracts attention.

Perhaps they are not with the times, and this desire to film one's big wins is a relatively recent phenomena. Perhaps in days of old, people filming were more likely to be up to no good.

What's next, an outright ban on even bringing your phone on the premises.

I have noticed that even at the Motorway services the list of rules for the fruit machine area says "no mobile phones to be used in the gaming area", not that anyone enforces it, and it is freely ignored without consequence. They ARE watching though, just stick the nose of a pushchair or let your child poke their head over the line, and the reaction is immediate.

It seems this casino has just gone totally nuts over the issue, allowing it to escalate all the way to a life ban.

It was a pretty crap bonus round in any case, a mere 14,000 coins for what was the maximum level on the wheel, and the maximum number of free games. Maybe they wanted to hide how sh1t the slot's bonus rounds were:rolleyes:

I am pretty sure it's OK to film a bonus round at an online casino, and unless they search patrons on entry, most avid filmers of their bonus rounds will just switch to using concealed cameras rather than face the potential hassle of being jumped on by security, having their phone confiscated, back roomed, or banned for life.

The claim that a mobile phone can make a machine pay out is bullshit worthy of a tin foil hat. There was a notorious scammer on the fruit machine scene who sold "devices" that you just put on top of the machine and it would pay more. My description of one as "an LED soldered onto what looks like an old key fob" didn't go down too well with him, and he made all sorts of idle threats, none of which came to fruition.

The paranoia of arcades and casinos just makes the claims that this "device" actually works more credible, and therefore easier for scammers to sell.

A scammer could quote this case, and then market by claiming "do you see just HOW shit scared casinos are of a mere phone". "They would REALLY shite themselves if they knew that you had one of my devices, but they will never know, designed to be concealed......... you will never be caught using it, and can enjoy enhanced payouts in peace without the casino ever realising you had the advantage......".


The advent of "wearable tech", including the rather obvious Google Glass, will make it almost impossible to stop people filming whatever they want. Less obvious would be the spy camera sewn into a shirt, using a button to conceal the lens. For the ladies, the spy camera brooch.
 

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