Its a fact, Playing poker in Washington its a crime

The Watchdog

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Ok, so now is true.. you get caught by the goverment playing a friendly poker game in your house at 2 am and be careful.. Watch your front door and windows because police might raid your house looking for a criminal.


So they let it happen, I see this cancer spreading through America now.

Its sad no one stood up in Washington, probably noone won't in the rest of the country...

The funny thing is .. how is the goverment going to prevent this??

So now they are going to spend THE AMERICAN PEOPLE money on technology to trace which sites you visit. They are going to spend money on tracking your bank transactions, plus they are going to spend money to make sure you are "safe" from the gambing industry... What a bunch of crap.

So apparently the Washington state believes is more important to spend millions of dollars and probably increase taxes on "THE WAR ON ONLINE GAMBLING" instead of feeding the poor, creating job opportunities and helping out the homeless..

THE HELL WITH THAT.. Right Uncle Sam?? Who gives a shit about those things... WE HAVE TO FIGHT ONLINE GAMBLING... ITS A PRIORITY TO KEEP AMERICA SAFE FROM THIS CRIMINALS... LETS HAVE THE HUNGRY AND HOMELESS WAIT SOME MORE WINTERS.. of course, if they have survived several, they can take another one.

Think about it, your money and future taxes is going again in to a stupid noneless war, just like the War on drugs, which has caused nothing but tons of dead people, better labs and more people smoking crack...

Bunch of ....
 

paul02085

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Ok, so now is true.. you get caught by the goverment playing a friendly poker game in your house at 2 am and be careful.. Watch your front door and windows because police might raid your house looking for a criminal.


So they let it happen, I see this cancer spreading through America now.

Its sad no one stood up in Washington, probably noone won't in the rest of the country...

The funny thing is .. how is the goverment going to prevent this??

So now they are going to spend THE AMERICAN PEOPLE money on technology to trace which sites you visit. They are going to spend money on tracking your bank transactions, plus they are going to spend money to make sure you are "safe" from the gambing industry... What a bunch of crap.

So apparently the Washington state believes is more important to spend millions of dollars and probably increase taxes on "THE WAR ON ONLINE GAMBLING" instead of feeding the poor, creating job opportunities and helping out the homeless..

THE HELL WITH THAT.. Right Uncle Sam?? Who gives a shit about those things... WE HAVE TO FIGHT ONLINE GAMBLING... ITS A PRIORITY TO KEEP AMERICA SAFE FROM THIS CRIMINALS... LETS HAVE THE HUNGRY AND HOMELESS WAIT SOME MORE WINTERS.. of course, if they have survived several, they can take another one.

Think about it, your money and future taxes is going again in to a stupid noneless war, just like the War on drugs, which has caused nothing but tons of dead people, better labs and more people smoking crack...

Bunch of ....

Who the hell cares what some 25 year old punk in Costa Rica of all god forsaken places thinks. You need to get off your soapbox buddy. Why dont u run for president of Costa Rica for christs sake. I am sure they have PLENTY of problems you can blabber about. :rolleyes:
 

The Watchdog

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jajaja

Tough guy on the forum.. .I would like to see the type of moron you are.

Never the less, I believe that being a Costa Rican citizen is great, plus it happens that my country is house for probably more than 50% of the gambling industry...

If you are ok with these laws, what the hell are you doing at a gambling site??

The other thing is.. My country has tons of problems.. Most of our governors are f@%@ thieves... Our roads suck... we get paid crap... and we have an oil company, in which your so beloved president has tons of stock, trying to destroy our coasts and marine life in order to send it up to your country and bring it back here and sale it to whatever price they want... Its a shithole, but our country has never runned programs or forbidden us to spend our money on what ever the helll we want. Of course except drugs, weapons or stuff like that. Gambling is serious in our country, a lot of people have severe problems gambling but the goverment knows its any adult's choice what they do with their money.

Another good thing is that we are not rich... But the little money we have we do not spended on illegal phone interventions, sending our citizens to kill inocent people to middle east (however our former president supported the USA with the Iraq issue, what a moron) or our goverment will waste time on stupid issues like yours is doing and will focus more on trying to improve medicine, studies and getting people out of the streets. They don't have much success.. but at least they try. Here when ever some one is sick, every hospital will make the best to help that person ... Even your citizens when come here and get so high and lost in our beatiful mountains we help them out and invest tons of money in helping them, other than monitoring and controlling the live style of every Tico.

Other than that, I believe freedom of speach and democracy are enjoyed more in my country now days than in yours...

Pura vida mi hermanito...
 

greedygirl

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The Watchdog said:
Never the less, I believe that being a Costa Rican citizen is great, plus it happens that my country is house for probably more than 50% of the gambling industry...

Watchdog--I understand you believe you are someone who has a far greater knowledge on online gambling than most of us mere mortals, however, your lack of knowledge is starting to show.

While Costa Rica is indeed a hot spot for online gambling sites, I would challenge you on your "more than 50% of the gambling industry" bit. Yes, without question sportsbooks are fertile throughout Costa Rica, the truth is that the percentage of casinos and poker rooms in Costa Rica are comparatively low. The fact that Costa Rica does not issue gaming licenses has become unattractive for casinos who are looking to establish a solid, positive reputation. This is not to say that there aren't some truly great casinos in CR--it is just that these casinos have risen to the challenge.

As far as your obvious disgust towards America, you should know that not all Americans agree with out government. We certainly have our problems--we don't need you telling us this. You'd be surprised how smart most of us are...we really CAN see that things are not perfect, without you pointing it out.
 

tennis_balls

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greedygirl said:
As far as your obvious disgust towards America, you should know that not all Americans agree with out government.

perhaps you should re-read his post with an open mind.......i don't think he has shown any disrespect towards America or Americans, unless you feel it's un-American to criticize King George.

This thread began as a protest to the state of Washington and its hypocritical new gambling law. I hardly think criticizing ignorant lawmakers and the waste of taxpayer money qualifies as contempt for America.
 

greedygirl

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tennis_balls--

I believe we probably have similar views on the US. I'm absolutely angry at the direction this country has taken. Further, my very livelihood depends on this industry and so obviously, I'm quite concerned over anything affecting online gambling.

I also am incredibly open-minded. I'm empathetic and understanding of the views people from other countries have towards the US and more often than not, I'm in full agreement. In fact, I don't necessarily disagree with Watchdog's views on US policies.

I should be brutally honest here...

For me, this has more to do with presentation and personality. I absolutely acknowledge and understand that this may be unfair, but every now and then, we all come across someone who pushes those buttons. Without going into any sort of character attacks, I will say that there have been things Watchdog has posted, along with a not-so-friendly PM to me, that have my antennae on alert.

Be that as it may, I do apologize if I've been unfair in my assessment.
 

spearmaster

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This is the Poker forum, people, not the War Room.

Let's try and keep things on topic. Take the political talk elsewhere.
 

The Watchdog

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True

I am not here to fight.. the subject was poker is a fellony..

Sorry if that guy Paul was deeply affected by my comments.. I wil try not attack his moral and sensitive american pride. I don't have nothing against americans, I do not agree on a lot of things your goverment do things, however so as tons of other nations..

Regarding gambling in Costa Rica, I was referring to the online gambling industry.. .our land based industry is nothing compared to some other countries like US, Spain or even Panama....

I don't know if Paul was the one mentioning something about how some ethnic group in the states was trash and other attacks to some other ethnic groups, I can guarantee you I have no racial, religous or political prejudices...

However I still believe your goverment is doing wrong regarding this laws and the attitude taken towards the Antigua Barbuda issue.
 

Renegade

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Watchdog has a point in regards to this BS Law...
All of America needs to wake up and smell the coffee because we're sinking and have been for decades.
I'm also trying to make a decent buck promoting Online Casinos, Sportsbooks, Online Poker Rooms and Bingo.
When any anti-gambling law comes out it affects all of us in the industry.
 

greedygirl

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The Watchdog said:
Regarding gambling in Costa Rica, I was referring to the online gambling industry.. .our land based industry is nothing compared to some other countries like US, Spain or even Panama....

However I still believe your goverment is doing wrong regarding this laws and the attitude taken towards the Antigua Barbuda issue.

I was referring to online gambling, as well. While CR has quite a large online gambling contingent, it is not as prolific as you believe it to be.

And again, I don't disagree that the US is taking a wrong turn on the online gambling issue. It's flawed thinking at best and a destruction of rights at worst. Hopefully common sense will prevail in the end.
 

The Watchdog

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mmmmm I believe I am right.

Take a look of the following companies stablished in Costa Rica

Sportsbooks:
-+
Bodog
BOS
Sportbook
SBG
Millenium
Nine

Casinos
toooo many...

Poker rooms
Absoulte
Poker stars
Ultimate Bet
True Poker ( not sure )
Poker Host..

Thats only to name a few...only with Bodog, BOS, SBG, Pokerstars Absolute you will make a database of at least 1.000.000 customers... I guarantee you.. we are home for huge percentage of the online gambling business.
 

Pinababy69

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Watchdog

Casinos
toooo many...

How many reputable ones? And if Costa Rica is at the forefront of the gaming industry, why hasn't the government set up a regulatory and licensing body, as in the UK?

I've read some of your posts where you praise Casinomeister (praise well deserved), yet he accredits very few, if any, casinos operating out of Costa Rica. Why do you suppose that is? No avenue of recourse for the player? Just a thought.
 

The Watchdog

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Honestly

Most Sportsbooks and poker rooms have a decent and honest operation.

Reputable ones?? Bodog? Sportsbook? BOS???

There is a regulatory agency here... called ACCDE which "supposley" monitors operations in call centers..

Another regulation board which is located in Costa Rica is the OSGA if I am not mistaken..

www.osga.com

Regarding Online Casinos, we have suffered of morons running scams all around, however several respected ones are www.bancouno.com www.twinacescasino.com www.portofinocasino.com (not sure if thats the address) ... but is true, we are pros in sports.. however we have dissapointed some people with our online casinos... That will change pronto...

However there are thousands of online casinos operating here as well as bingo sites, which I know must be running a decent operation
 

spearmaster

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Watchdog -

CR does not, by any stretch of the imagination, represent most of the sportsbooks or casinos online. Nor are there any licensing or regulatory facilities in Costa Rica other than standard business licenses. I am sure you meant well - but CR is a lot smaller than you think it is when it comes to online gambling.

Back to the point of this thread. If you guys want to argue about the merits of, or lack thereof, operations in Costa Rica, please start a new thread.
 

The Watchdog

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Ok

I will not keep arguing..sorry for that..

But.. go to online.casinocity.com, they practically put every company on the industry on their directory.. Good, bad, honest, scammers, most of them you kind find there.

Click on jurisdictions... and check how many companies operate here.. you will se that with Netherlands, Antigua & Barbuda and Costa Rica are on the top 5 countries with more gaming sites.. .

Gibraltar 138 sites
UK 83 sites
Antigua and Barbuda 377 sites
Kahnwake 325 sites
Malta 47 sites
Costa Rica 383 sites
Netherlands Antilles 322 sites
Belize 56

..... But is true, we shouldn't be arguing by a dumb thing like this...
 

spearmaster

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Without meaning to be unkind, I should point out that Costa Rica has the most operations out of that list because it is the sole jurisdiction that does not have proper regulation, with the possible exception of Belize. It is, however, the #1 location for American-facing sportsbooks.
 

suzecat

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spearmaster said:
Without meaning to be unkind, I should point out that Costa Rica has the most operations out of that list because it is the sole jurisdiction that does not have proper regulation, with the possible exception of Belize. It is, however, the #1 location for American-facing sportsbooks.

Spear, your restraint is awesome (wish I had it!)

Our little GuardPuppy may not realize how very very big the world is outside of Costa Rica........
 

The Watchdog

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Not unkind at all.. Facts are facts... I dunno there are some things not working properly here... I don't mind accepting the facts, however we do are pioneers of this industry with companies with more than 10 years in the industry, that without regulation, have built a very respected reputation.

It is true, in fact I will like for the Meister to watch everyone in Costa Rica. I believe his opinion in the industry is so strong, the he might be able to get everyone playing along the game and take out of the business the ones not doing a good job.

Examples of very respected operations here will be CRIS and Hollywood... check on Don Best and you will see that they are 2 of the most respected lines on sports gambling..

Poker is big here... and also we have several fine operations such as Absoulte and Pokerstars...

Regarding casinos, you can see the Mainstreet Group which for years has provided reliable and committed service to their customers.

Spearmaster, I am not the usual person that will get offended by constructive observations... This country is not perfect, but you and the baby can not say we are a small percentage of this industry when we represent a huge percentage of the sites were thousands of customers play at...
 

spearmaster

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The Watchdog said:
Spearmaster, I am not the usual person that will get offended by constructive observations... This country is not perfect, but you and the baby can not say we are a small percentage of this industry when we represent a huge percentage of the sites were thousands of customers play at...

By baby I assume you meant lady...

The contention you made is:
my country is house for probably more than 50% of the gambling industry...
I can categorically state that this is not so. Your own numbers gleaned from casinocity.com also refute your claim.

Both of us, however, did state that CR does not represent as much of the industry as you thought it did - and again the numbers from Casino City back this claim up, even without adding other jurisdictions such as the Isle of Man, Alderney, Vanuatu, the Philippines and others which I haven't listed.

Suzecat - you know my restraint isn't always this good... LOL... but on the other hand Watchdog isn't afraid to state his opinion and admit where he is wrong, unlike some other people I know :)
 

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Hi from a rainy Montreal.

I think Casino City perhaps needs to update it's list as far as Malta is concerned - last I heard from the LGA there were considerably more than 47 sites licensed there.

And Spear and Greedy Girl's points regarding CR's *licensing* and predominence in global internet gambling are well made imo.
 

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Just to chime in to let people know where I am coming from. The casinos that are listed at Casinomeister that are based or liscensed in CR are listed here based solely on their reputation, accessability, and past performance: Bodog, iNetBet, Mainstreet. That's it.

Costa Rica does not provide gaming licenses, and there is no active gambling commission located in CR. Why so many casinos choose CR has no bearing on player "safety."

Watchdog, please reread the posting rules:

1.1 - No "Flaming": Please do not post any messages that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member or guest. Abusive behavior will not be tolerated and your account may be suspended. Please refrain from potty mouth language.

Baby and moron fall under the catagory: "belittle".
 

tennis_balls

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i think he used "Baby" as a reference to pinababy. she is a baby as in "yeah, baby!"

as for "moron"...well....some dude attacked him just for being Costa Rican.
 

The Watchdog

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My Bad

I don't usually disrespect people, however Paul's attitude I disliked... sorry for calling him moron.

With Baby I was referring to Pinababy... correct. No offense was intended.

Is true what the meister says... that is why he says he won't endorse an operation in costa rica, except for the ones he mentioned.

I must have exagerated with the numbers... however saying that Costa Rica hosts a little part of the gambling industry is nonesense...

Lots of things should be worked here, however I don't believe much in jurisditcions... Honestly I have seen some serious problems with some Kanhawke casinos and a lot of customers claiming that they don't take issues in to their hands to solve them.

It will be great for us to have a regulation agency, however if its one from the goverment I guarantee you it will be the same as not having one...

Anyways, my apology to everyone...

I still believe those laws and attitudes from the US goverment will do nothing but harming a great industry.

Probably my numbers were exagareted... but the amount of customers handled in Costa Rican territory a day is a huge, and not minimum compared to other countries... Is not something that makes me happy or sad... honestly I don't care how much business is done here.. but its ALOT..guaranteed...

Regards... and once again I apologize for any inconvenience caused by me
 
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