Is this legal? what do you suggest?

uungy

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I have found a flaw in an online casino (no name given) that when you transfer form the sports book to the casino, you can make money on the exchange rate. (i know i am being vague but don't want to let the cat out the bag). Its not much a time, but probably could make a few grand over the year. I have tried contacting them, but they haven't replied (probably thinking I am a scammer).

I have tried it, and i can just set an auto clicker over night, and it works.

What do you suggest I do?
 

tim5ny

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I suggest that the problem's going to be fixed really quick since you posted this.
 

BubbleG

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Do you really think the casino will pay you when they realise whats going on?

There was a bug in one UB's update which allowed a person to get a free entry in a heads up sng re match, the flaw worked all the way upto the 5k sng's. The guy who was doin it got caught cause he built his acc up to 100 or so K before trying to cashout.

I would just email support explaing what the problem is and expose it on here. Its up to the casino/sportsbook then, you would have done all you can. :thumbsup:
 

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uungy said:
I have tried it, and i can just set an auto clicker over night, and it works.

And they haven't noticed hundreds of transactions going through your account yet?




What do you suggest I do?

Well, seeing as how it's fraud (if/when you try to cash out):

1.) Stop it altogether
2.) CALL them, forget email. Explain the situation and tell them to audit your account
3.) Don't even think about trying to cash this $ out.

If it's any reputable company, hopefully they'll compensate you for bringing this to their attention...
 

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Thanks for the response.

I haven't checked to see if it has been stopped, but it has been like this for a while.

In regards to cashing out, that also isn't a problem (i think), as there is a posibility round that too!

I know, i have loads of transactions, and they haven't deactivated my account, I also thought they would. I can't contact them by phone, otherwise I would have done so already.

I am unsure if this is fraud, as whenever you exchange, you always lose on the exchange, so why is that not fraud on their behalf? This is a very similar to that, just, i am gaining not the company.

I haven't attempted withdrawing yet, as i am not sure if it is correct to do.... thats why I have written on this board
 

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Oh, Please

:what: I am not even sure why you posted here. You KNOW it is not "correct" to try to cash this money out, and the fact you have a "way around" is further evidence you are just bragging about your illegal scheme. You have no intention of doing the right thing, so why post here? To get support? I am pretty confident you have come to the wrong place!
 

uungy

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moonchica said:
:what: I am not even sure why you posted here. You KNOW it is not "correct" to try to cash this money out, and the fact you have a "way around" is further evidence you are just bragging about your illegal scheme. You have no intention of doing the right thing, so why post here? To get support? I am pretty confident you have come to the wrong place!

Oh my .... This is a discussion! Can't people give an opinion without giving their conclusions on what they think I will or will not be doing!

I have not requested a withdrawal, even though I could have 5 months ago, so there is a reason there. Sometimes people doubt things and ask for an opinion, and thats what I am doing, and in no way bragging!

What I can see as possible to do, I believe is fully legal, and all I see it is taking advantage over the house similar to bonus bagging. As I said the exchange in every book maker is on the company's side, the point is I can benefit ech time instead of the company benefiting, so why is that illegal?

I HAVE contacted, and they obviously take no interest, so what does anyone suggest.

Also please stop being aggresive! This is a discussion board.:thumbsup:
 

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uungy said:
Oh my .... This is a discussion! Can't people give an opinion without giving their conclusions on what they think I will or will not be doing!

Maybe you didn't like it, but I think the poster was giving an opinion.

Anyways, why don't you just cash out if you believe the profits are legitimate and the sportsbook is ok with what you are doing?

Frankly, I have never needed to look for a way around anything when cashing out.
 

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uungy said:
I have not requested a withdrawal, even though I could have 5 months ago, so there is a reason there.

Does that mean you've known about this for five months?
 

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yes(may be a bit more)! I have tried it, and it works (not sure about the withdrawing). I decided to write to them, waited for a reply, and forgot to chase it up
 

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So are you going to tell us how much you figure you've made over the course of five months? Just for the record, I think it's totally wrong....but I'm discussing. :D

And there's no telephone # for this place? And they haven't replied to emails sent to all email addresses available? Do they by any chance have a rep here at Casinomeister?
 

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Pinababy69 said:
So are you going to tell us how much you figure you've made over the course of five months? Just for the record, I think it's totally wrong....but I'm discussing. :D

And there's no telephone # for this place? And they haven't replied to emails sent to all email addresses available? Do they by any chance have a rep here at Casinomeister?
:lolup:
I only pushed it up to about $280, so that i can prove to them that it is possible. I then played it one day to nealry zero.

To be fair I dodn't exactly tell them of the exact problem, I told them there is a flaw in their system and they should contact me if they are interested
 

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LOL. So you found out about the problem, then went to the trouble of setting up an automatic clicker to run overnight and score some pennies each time, building up a small balance you are afraid to cashout. Then sent a cryptic email alluding to a 'problem'?
 

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soflat said:
LOL. So you found out about the problem, then went to the trouble of setting up an automatic clicker to run overnight and score some pennies each time, building up a small balance you are afraid to cashout.
uungy said:
I only pushed it up to about $280, so that i can prove to them that it is possible.
:confused: :confused: :eek: :eek:
 

soflat

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Well since you are only trying to help them solve a problem, there is nothing illegal about it. I guess what threw me off was when you said you had a way 'round' to cash it out.
 

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Well Uungy, I guess my only suggestion would be for you to PM the name of the casino/sportsbook to Casinomeister, and see if perhaps he can reach someone there. Just a thought.
 

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soflat said:
Well since you are only trying to help them solve a problem, there is nothing illegal about it. I guess what threw me off was when you said you had a way 'round' to cash it out.
I did say that, only because someone mentioned that they may stop it during cashout. But if this is legal, than I may be able to get round that, but not to worry :notworthy
pinababy69 said:
Well Uungy, I guess my only suggestion would be for you to PM the name of the casino/sportsbook to Casinomeister, and see if perhaps he can reach someone there. Just a thought.
Ok thanks, I would do that, but just intersted besides for everything, what everyone's thoughts are. It doesn't sound right, but it really does sound legal.

If CM is interested I will surely PM him the details

Thanks anyway:thumbsup:
 

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pure casino...
take their money with no guiltiness as they stoll ours for so many years...
 

AussieDave

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My opinion is that you posted this info to gain some type of insurance policy in case you don't get paid over at XYZ casino. Instead it's kind of blown up in your face imo.

  • You've almost admitted that you have a feeling it's wrong.
  • You installed some automated clicker to scam this flaw.
  • You send an email with a cryptic message, instead of just telling them the software flaw issue.

If letting the cat out of the bag is such an issue to you, then using common sense (I'm 100% sure you hold), you'd PM CM, jetset, Spear or someone who maybe able to assist. As your not a newbie to this forum why you didn't at least contact CM is beyond my comprehension.

While we are allowed to cast opinions I sure hope this thread was not hatched in the hope that others may PM you asking for the venue name in exchanged for some cash on the side.
 

uungy

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Come on all, chill out!:rolleyes:

I was asking what people think, if it was wrong or right! I am not naming as I dont think its right if other people take "advantage" of it. Also, yes, I do admit, if I have found a flaw which I think a company could lose even if its legal, I think I should benefit, why not?

As I say, I think its legal, but I will admit it doesn't feel right. This is more than bagging bonuses, which I agree.

I told them I had found a flaw, but they took no intrest. I don't have a copy of the email, so I can't say word for word what I wrote. And again I didn't tell them, as I think I should or could benefit from informing them.

That's not really the issue here if I think it's right or wrong, I am interested in opinion.:eek:

I haven't contacted CM yet, and I think you are right, I should do it, and I accept your input, and appreciate it.
 

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If you find that you gain a tiny bit of money (I'm thinking a few pennies each time) in the exchange rate, hell, I've wouldn't worry about it. If I find a ten dollar bill on the floor in the aisle of a grocery store, I don't announce it to them. I've once let the bank know that there was a $1.00 mistake in my favor and they appreciated my honesty but it cost them more than a dollar to make right and they said "don't bother" if it happens again (it was an entry error).

I'd say congrats on finding a way to make a little bit of money but I wouldn't have said anything about it to anyone, but that's me.
 
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