Is RTG fixed, rigged, whatever?

[Alexishot69]

bodog

Wanted to post a new topic, but I think my question suits here well..?

Been playing BJ at Bodog (using RTG software) and EVERY time I play the bank gets an very high amount of Black Jacks. High compared to me as a player AND to other casino's. Anyone has got a same experience?

Also I had a fairly good game the first several hours I played, despite of the many BJ's from the dealer. But after those hours, the next hours (even more) were absolutely terrible . Losing way more hands then you would expect in a normal game. Off course this could be bad luck, but still very strange to see the sudden change in "luck" as a player.

Well i think if you take a closer look round the forum you will see RTG aint the most popular software and on top of that in the past weeks/months bodog have had a lot of processing problems so maybe they thought lets just stop any winnings and we will have no need for a processor

On a different note maybe you need to try another site theres loads of accredited sites here and ill pop up and say 32red as a starting point....alex

 

[tombee]

Thanks I have read some of the topics on RTG.. especially about the slots. Interesting... Maybe I'll try 32red, knew it existed but never took the time to play there.

Edit: Played at 32red but lost everything before I could say "black jack" (or anything else). So it's probably bad karma or something. Getting sooo tired of always losing

 

[Kenny Lingus]

RTG more crooked than Bill Clinton's..... politics (IMO)

I played for a good year and a half on RTG software before I wised up. Lost over $5k (a lot for a low roller like me), mostly at Bodog & Club World. Lost most of it at 40 cents a spin, although did a fair share at 20 cents and a $1.00.

One of the most significant details of my RTG exerience is that about 90% of my play was on one game, Achilles. Loved the game, great concept for a slot, but the payout over time was horrible.

How horrible? Well, out of all my deposits, I only managed to cash out once. That was from Inet, just a little before I swore off RTG; it was for $500, on a free chip, coincidentally, after I had lost $400-$500 to Inet over a couple week's span.

My conclusion: RTG sucks ass! I swore off RTG, and haven't went back!!! But this is not all to the story...

About two weeks ago, this is part of an e-mail that showed up in my hotmail account:

>Get $100 FREE!

>Dear Kenny Lingus

>This is Christopher DiAngelo with Prism Casino. I am contacting you today >because I noticed that you haven?t been in the casino for awhile. I would >love to have you back, and would like to offer you $100 FREE as a nice >incentive to come back in today!

>All you have to do is redeem coupon code 100WBB3HDB in the casino >cashier and you will automatically be credited with $100 FREE!

>Forgot your Prism Username?
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As it was, I played at Prism casino in late 2005, depositing about $150. Having not played RTG in almost 2 years, I thought WTH, downloaded and redeemed the coupon.

WELL YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELEIVE THIS, BUT....

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I won, I won! Over $26K!!! Yes!!!!! All from $100!

And all of it was won on Achilles! Guess it does actually payout!
Hit the Random Jackpot 3 times, too! Woo-hoo!!!!!!!

Oh wait.....$100 max cashout on the free chip, it says? Can you believe my luck?!

What are the odds?

The odds are fraudulent, I say. Not just with Prism and the like, but with RTG in general. It is my opinion, take it for what it is worth, but RTG software can be manipulated far beyond what most of you think is possible.

Don't believe it? Well, as P. T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute".

RTG software and their affiliated casinos are counting on that.

 

[RobWin]

Wanted to post a new topic, but I think my question suits here well..?

Been playing BJ at Bodog (using RTG software) and EVERY time I play the bank gets an very high amount of Black Jacks. High compared to me as a player AND to other casino's. Anyone has got a same experience?

Also I had a fairly good game the first several hours I played, despite of the many BJ's from the dealer. But after those hours, the next hours (even more) were absolutely terrible . Losing way more hands then you would expect in a normal game. Off course this could be bad luck, but still very strange to see the sudden change in "luck" as a player.

Here is a thread you might be interested in reading tombee...

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/rtg-poll.26650/

 

[babs7262]

Thats when I closed my account out kenny. Inet gave me a manager bonus that I never asked for. It was for $10. I got it up to over $600 for the first time in my life at Inet. (never cashed out more than $200 ish). Wouldnt you know...10times cashout max. And on top of it, they took out the rest so I couldnt earn comp points.

I dont care how many screenshots Im shown, Ill never play RTG again. Im happy for the ones that do win, but Im not one of them so I find it pointless.
Someone has to lose in order for others to win so we all have our places. Its a shame because I must admit, I loved their games. I miss my Bee! ohwell

 

[RobWin]

Thats when I closed my account out kenny. Inet gave me a manager bonus that I never asked for. It was for $10. I got it up to over $600 for the first time in my life at Inet. (never cashed out more than $200 ish). Wouldnt you know...10times cashout max. And on top of it, they took out the rest so I couldnt earn comp points.

I dont care how many screenshots Im shown, Ill never play RTG again. Im happy for the ones that do win, but Im not one of them so I find it pointless.
Someone has to lose in order for others to win so we all have our places. Its a shame because I must admit, I loved their games. I miss my Bee! ohwell

Babs, you should have played that $600 back down to $110 and then done your cashin, that way you could have still earned the comps first...

 

[silcnlayc]

Someone has to lose in order for others to win so we all have our places

Babs7262? You didn't lose anything.....You were on a "free chip". Unless I am wrong, you invested nothing there...yes?

Inet gave me a manager bonus that I never asked for. It was for $10.

And as long as you have been playing, you should know most free chips have a limit for cashout (chiding you)...cause then in reality that round of play you would truly have been ahead since you invested no money...

 

[kakata]

My answer to the OP question is


YES



all of em no exeptions......sorry but this is the truth....ALL OF EM.
Its not cause I win or lose.....I know Ive to lose , still, they could do it with a little more elegance....not theyr style....actually not at all....no style on theyr part.
Its just I steal more today and Ill be a litlle just a little nicer tomorow....that's all.
well I cant use better english that I can but I know that you guys are accostumed to mine and I know you do undearsteand what I mean....at leats I hope so

 

[RobWin]

My answer to the OP question is


YES



all of em no exeptions......sorry but this is the truth....ALL OF EM.
Its not cause I win or lose.....I know Ive to lose , still, they could do it with a little more elegance....not theyr style....actually not at all....no style on theyr part.
Its just I steal more today and Ill be a litlle just a little nicer tomorow....that's all.
well I cant use better english that I can but I know that you guys are accostumed to mine and I know you do undearsteand what I mean....at leats I hope so

Does everyone still believe that RTG Casino Software is Truly Random and the casino operators cannot tweak with it ??

That was my original question Kakata...don't you of all people mean to say NO ??

 

[kakata]

Well the original question for me was....are all the RTG fixed ,...rigged????
Thats the question I answered....with a big YES.
Love you my friend.
kakata

 

[RobWin]

Well the original question for me was....are all the RTG fixed ,...rigged????
Thats the question I answered....with a big YES.
Love you my friend.
kakata

OK,, got you my friend...:notworthy

 

[footdr]

FOR THE MOST PART........

YES not really Random but I don't think any software is

 

[EasyRhino]

Does everyone still believe that RTG Casino Software is Truly Random and the casino operators cannot tweak with it ??

Me!

I mainly play the tables, so you've got fixed, known rules. Everything still seems to proceed according to (losing) expectations at RTGs I've played, even Virtual Group, over lots and lots of hands.

The only problem with slots is that you don't know what the payout is set to. But in a way it doesn't matter, because the variance of the slots is so high it wouldn't be noticeable over one or even several sessions.

 

[Luigi810]

RTG casinos need to be SHUT down, I don't understand how people still play at RTG casinos after reading all the threads on here, they don't pay when you win, when you chat with them they do everything in their power to get your deposit through, they'll give you a million free chips and bonuses when you ask for them because people think it's free money added on to theirs, they don't understand the playthroughs or the max. cashouts and the casinos know that..

And when you try to cash out, GOOD LUCK chatting with them, they rush you off, your documents are never good enough, but the bottom line is, you NEVER get your money, take it from a pro, DO NOT play at RTG casinos..

 

[babs7262]

Babs7262? You didn't lose anything.....You were on a "free chip". Unless I am wrong, you invested nothing there...yes?

I meant in general, not this time because it was a free chip

And as long as you have been playing, you should know most free chips have a limit for cashout (chiding you)...cause then in reality that round of play you would truly have been ahead since you invested no money...

Actually, no sil, I dont use free bonus chips, period. So when I got this chip I assumed a manager bonus meant "no strings attached" Im the biggest advocate of no free chips in here lol. The ONLY exception I make is one non rtg casino that has 5times WR , which to me is no big deal. I knew bonus chips had WR but honestly didnt know at the time that manager bonus was the same thing. Since then, I only use one RTG and got myself taken off any bonus/freechip list

 

[mercy]

DO NOT play at RTG casinos..

I second that

 

[wayram]

As i have posted before, they are all the bloody same , they all have the turn down switch..not just RTG

 

[lucky21]

I agree

I agree that all software providers have some manipulation avaliable above the RNG, I have seen so many wierd, at times shocking plays in blackjack from these games that if seen in a bricks and morter casino, would have the BJ tables empty, mt sessions at one casino constantly fall within the 1% of happening regarding losses.

Am I that unlucky? I dont think so.

The thing is if left to there own devices, greed will see us push all boundries that we can , no one is really keeping there eye on these casino's and they are set up in "casino friendly" countries.

I think the best we could do is not to use casino's for a while, let em sweat a bit, let them have to bid for your dollar as they did early in the industry and be reminded that we are the customer perhaps then the not so good ones will die off , excuse the oxy moron of good casino.

That or instead of Gambling we use our computers and send some denial of service attacks at the obviously crooked ones

 

[tim5ny]

Babs, you should have played that $600 back down to $110 and then done your cashin, that way you could have still earned the comps first...

Unless RTG is different, I don't think you earn comp points while playing on a no deposit gift.

 

[babs7262]

I should of but didnt know at the time. If I had known, I would of played out everything but the $100 but again, I didnt know they would immediatly take the rest of the money out. Atleast I dont have to worry about that anymore since Im on the non comp list now