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Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by cipher, May 11, 2006.

    May 11, 2006
  1. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    I had set out to play some Blackjack at INTERCASINO this morning when I realized that they still owe me $10,000.00 from the eighth. I'm constantly reading about how fast the turn around time is with INTERCASINO but for me the turn around time seems to be getting worse rather than better.

    Have a good one.
  2. May 11, 2006
  3. metaxa

    metaxa Experienced Member webmeister

    don't worry, i think the money will hit your neteller today in the evening.

    i had the same experience, small withdrawals are at Neteller mostly in 24hours, bigger withdrawals with 5 digits are personally checked in my opinion and need a little bit longer.
  4. May 11, 2006
  5. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Hi Metaxa:

    I'm not concerned that I'll be paid. But I am concerned at the additional delay in processing a withdrawal simply because my play needs to be personally checked only because of the size of the withdrawal.

    Casinos need to understand the fact that withdrawals are as much a part of their operations as are deposits. If a casino is going to quibble over the size of withdrawals then there in the wrong business. Especially with a customer in good standing for better than 5 years.

    Have a good one.
  6. May 11, 2006
  7. chuchu59

    chuchu59 gambling addict CAG PABnonaccred


    You are right, Cipher. For a customer of 5 years, the size of the withdrawal is irrelevant and they should process this as with those of smaller amounts unless they state in writing that they will need to audit any withdrawals in excess of say, $10000.
  8. May 11, 2006
  9. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Hi Chuchu 59:

    I couldn't agree more. And on the flip side of this issue is the fact that MANSION CASINO handles a $6,000.00 payout in less than an hour. KUDOS to MANSION CASINO!!!

    Have a good one.
  10. May 11, 2006
  11. The Watchdog

    The Watchdog Dormant account

    sports, poker, casinos
    Costa Rica
    Well 3 days is not bad

    I know you have been a customer for a while,

    However 3 days is not that long for that amount. If they have paid you in 24 hours in the past, they should do it.

    One thing is for sure, if all your profitts came from black jack I guarantee you they are reviewing your game session... Is regular procedure. So make some numbers, for a $10k profit that game session must have at least 1500 hands.

    Remember also you are not the only customer at the casino and I guarantee you from the reputation Intercasino has built during the last years they are working as fast as they can to keep such a good customer as you happy.

    I am more than positive your payment will be made in a short matter of time.
  12. May 11, 2006
  13. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

  14. May 12, 2006
  15. mitch

    mitch Dormant account


    You know that Inter is one of the best and safest places out there.

    I withdrew 21,000 in April in one go, went through immediately. Was not in Neteller though.

    Can't see what you are are trying to say here.

    This could be an E.cash issue not Inter. I remember the first time I withdrew more than $10,000 from a Crypto casino through Neteller (Sands) there was a long delay, more than a week.

  16. May 12, 2006
  17. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    I've alerted Intercasino about this thread. Hopefully they can find out what's up on the delayed payment. Like Mitch said, it may be an Ecash issue - and it was over the weekend, so it may have been an issue that required a supervisor's approval (whatever that may have been).
  18. May 12, 2006
  19. gfkostas

    gfkostas Ex-Bonus Whore

    ten thousands dollars, twenty one thousands pounds.........
    you guys are amazing:eek2:
  20. May 12, 2006
  21. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Hi Mitch:

    Unfortunately over the last 3 months or so it's become a common occurrence rather than an isolated instance. And even more unfortunately, it seems as though this issue was not something that INTERCASINO could lay at the feet of Ecash, as I've been informed that my play as well as anyone else's play that is fortunate enough to win large is really being scrutinized for whatever reason.

    That coming directly from one of INTERCASINO'S customer service representatives.

    I received the 10G's in my account a couple of hours ago and hopefully this will be the end of it.

    Lastly Bryan, thanks for your looking into the matter as I wouldn't be surprised to find that the payment was accelerated after you became involved.

    Have a good one.
  22. May 12, 2006
  23. dickens1298

    dickens1298 Dormant account

    LA, California
    Is it treated the same as a CASH transaction at a B&M?

    I'm curious whether this transaction is treated the same as a cash transaction at a brick and mortar casino. In the US, current regs state that whenever cash inflows or outflows total $10,000 in a 24-hour period, the casino has to record the player's social security number. If I remember correctly, this was a RICO issue to prevent money laundering.

    Since the Neteller transaction could be ostensibly considered the same sort of transaction - do the same rules apply? Or would they NOT apply since Intercasino is not based in the US?
  24. May 12, 2006
  25. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Hi Dickens1298:

    The short answer here would be... The day Neteller (a Canadian entity) starts reporting to the Internal Revenue Service is the day that Neteller goes out of business.

    Have a good one.
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  26. May 14, 2006
  27. Lord_Have_Mercy

    Lord_Have_Mercy Quit Gambling

    Parts, Unknown
    But what if you withdrew $10,000 from Neteller to your Bank. Wouldn't your bank then report it? And they will trace or want to know where it came from.
  28. May 14, 2006
  29. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    Hi Lord Have Mercy:

    Any trace that IRS might do would take them right back to Neteller and Neteller does not provide any information to the Internal Revenue inasmuch as they are a Canadian owned entity.

    Have a good one.
  30. May 14, 2006
  31. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    The IRS could take you to court if they suspect that you might owe taxes, and they could get an order forcing you to provide the information, otherwise you can be jailed for contempt of court. (The 5th Amendment does not apply to civil trials.)
  32. May 14, 2006
  33. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    No, here in the states the government has to prove their case without the assitance of a defendant. Be it criminal and/or civil, the government is not extended the latitude of going on fishing expeditions into ones finances without probable cause.

    Have a good one.
  34. May 15, 2006
  35. ryan_hartley

    ryan_hartley Casino Representative

    Casino Manager
    Cipher's NETeller Withdrawal

    Hi Cipher,

    Firstly, please allow me to apologise for the delay in responding to this thread and secondly for the delay you experienced with withdrawing your $10,000.

    I've read that you have received your money, however could you please email me (ryanh@intercasino.com) your account number so that we can look into this and find out why you had to wait so long. Withdrawals can take up to 5 business days, but shouldn't be longer than that.

    I do wish to stress that we want to ensure that our players receive their winnings as quickly as possible and ECash is constantly ensuring that these service levels are met.

    If you do have any additional queries, please do not hesitate to contact me at This email is not visible to you..


    Ryan Hartley
  36. May 15, 2006
  37. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

    Mathematician by day, online gambler by night.
    Can you quote a source that states that government has no right to request evidence from the other party in a civil trial? (Of course, that evidence could not be used in a criminal trial.) I am not talking about a fishing expedition, but about the IRS believing for whatever reason that you owe more tax than you have declared. The actual procedure is that IRS issues a notice of deficiency, and then you can either dispute it in Tax Court, or pay up and sue for a refund in Federal District Court.
  38. May 15, 2006
  39. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    I have no idea where you come up with this "procedure" that you refer to you but I can assure you that it has absolutely no basis in fact on this side of the pond.

    Additionally, Step 1, Cipher transfers $1,000.00, $5,000.00 or even $10,000.00 (take your pick) to an entity such as Money Mookers, Pre Paid ATM or even Neteller (again, take your pick).

    Step 2, After 1 day, 1 month or even 1 year (again, take your pick) Cipher decides to transfer back from Money Bookers, Pre Paid ATM or even Neteller (again, take your pick) an amount equal to Cipher's original transaction.

    Now please show me GrandMaster where there is any tax liability incurred in these transactions. But do me a favor and start a different thread as all of this tax nonsense has absolutely nothing to do with the original topic of this thread.

    Have a good one.

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