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Some much better than others.

Fruity Slots promoting Slotty Vegas and numerous other Aspire/Genesis brands.

Roshtein, no need for me to explain that one. Almost certainly a fake money streamer as well.

Chip - Genesis casinos galore.

Nickslots - Seems to be promoting fairly decent casinos in the scheme of things and I quite enjoy his stream.
 
EkJR said:
Some much better than others.

Fruity Slots promoting Slotty Vegas and numerous other Aspire/Genesis brands.

Roshtein, no need for me to explain that one. Almost certainly a fake money streamer as well.

Chip - Genesis casinos galore.

Nickslots - Seems to be promoting fairly decent casinos in the scheme of things and I quite enjoy his stream.
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I thought all genesis casinos had to be removed ?
 
Borgie said:
Yes so no streamer or affililate should be advertising them for now
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Was watching some streamer the other day, normally plays between 60p and 80p depositing £300-£500 a time. Now that Genesis have gone he said he will be opening a low stakes channel on 20p etc.
 
Robert Rabbit said:
Was watching some streamer the other day, normally plays between 60p and 80p depositing £300-£500 a time. Now that Genesis have gone he said he will be opening a low stakes channel on 20p etc.
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Could be two reasons for that,

1: he did'nt got enough affiliation going on, the affiliate company booted him out.

2: The deposits dont outweigh the costs or wins in this case, and the streamer is losing money on the long run.

But really i dont care at all on who plays on what stake. Your not obligated to watch, it's not your money, and surely you cant be policing in there saying he cant play at that stake. Did you know the casino i play in has a slot that has a max bet of 460 euro per spin ?

I mean i thought i did crazy with buying 4x 2000 euro extra chilli buys and finally hitting the jackpot, but slotting at that level is just abnormal. Now 20 euro max bet is in my opinion a good sweet spot, same applies to land based as well. There's no need in my opinion for any casino to offer games above 100 to 200 euro a spin, let alone 460 euro, rofl.

I mean 10 presses and we're looking at a 4600 euro wagering.

I know the UK is getting bans from all the area's it can get where even the max stake is on the agenda to being limited to just 2 pound a spin. But the UK is'nt the rest of the world as there are alot of casino's with no restrictions really unless they dont want financial liability as in paying out a player for too much.

But Bandit and others, use bonus money. Even Rocknrolla admitted to have bonus added on top of his balance. They have to. But here's come's my own experience into playing with bonus funded money. You get actions and wins all over the place as long as your within your wagering requirement but the moment your out of it and in a positive balance, the party is over for slots. Unless you switch back to live games, that's a different story.

I just dont understand how playing with real money affects a much more difficult slot experience in general then playing with bonus money. Appearantly we all gotta go onto the bonus money wagering band now to at least get some action, and wager yourself to shit with 39 to 49 x requirements.

Casino's are getting shit lately.
 
Bloatgoat said:
Could be two reasons for that,

1: he did'nt got enough affiliation going on, the affiliate company booted him out.

2: The deposits dont outweigh the costs or wins in this case, and the streamer is losing money on the long run.

But really i dont care at all on who plays on what stake. Your not obligated to watch, it's not your money, and surely you cant be policing in there saying he cant play at that stake. Did you know the casino i play in has a slot that has a max bet of 460 euro per spin ?

I mean i thought i did crazy with buying 4x 2000 euro extra chilli buys and finally hitting the jackpot, but slotting at that level is just abnormal. Now 20 euro max bet is in my opinion a good sweet spot, same applies to land based as well. There's no need in my opinion for any casino to offer games above 100 to 200 euro a spin, let alone 460 euro, rofl.

I mean 10 presses and we're looking at a 4600 euro wagering.

I know the UK is getting bans from all the area's it can get where even the max stake is on the agenda to being limited to just 2 pound a spin. But the UK is'nt the rest of the world as there are alot of casino's with no restrictions really unless they dont want financial liability as in paying out a player for too much.

But Bandit and others, use bonus money. Even Rocknrolla admitted to have bonus added on top of his balance. They have to. But here's come's my own experience into playing with bonus funded money. You get actions and wins all over the place as long as your within your wagering requirement but the moment your out of it and in a positive balance, the party is over for slots. Unless you switch back to live games, that's a different story.

I just dont understand how playing with real money affects a much more difficult slot experience in general then playing with bonus money. Appearantly we all gotta go onto the bonus money wagering band now to at least get some action, and wager yourself to shit with 39 to 49 x requirements.

Casino's are getting shit lately.
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I'm not sure the bandit uses bonuses, he plays a lot at videoslots, and quite often has shown his history, no signs of a bonus on there, plus Videoslots aren't exactly know for handing out bonuses, why do you think so few streamers play there (apart from their abysmal affiliate scheme)? Genesis were offering streamers large bonuses and fake money to play, so thats more likely why he is going low stake. Plus, if most his customers he referred to Genesis were UK customers, then his affiliate income has just stopped overnight.
 
Bloatgoat said:
Could be two reasons for that,

1: he did'nt got enough affiliation going on, the affiliate company booted him out.

2: The deposits dont outweigh the costs or wins in this case, and the streamer is losing money on the long run.

But really i dont care at all on who plays on what stake. Your not obligated to watch, it's not your money, and surely you cant be policing in there saying he cant play at that stake. Did you know the casino i play in has a slot that has a max bet of 460 euro per spin ?
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I agree, and I sure as hell ain't policing anyone. I was just highlighting the impact that the banning of Genesis Casino was having on certain streamers.
 
colinsunderland said:
I'm not sure the bandit uses bonuses, he plays a lot at videoslots, and quite often has shown his history, no signs of a bonus on there, plus Videoslots aren't exactly know for handing out bonuses, why do you think so few streamers play there (apart from their abysmal affiliate scheme)? Genesis were offering streamers large bonuses and fake money to play, so thats more likely why he is going low stake. Plus, if most his customers he referred to Genesis were UK customers, then his affiliate income has just stopped overnight.
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Since a while he always plays at VS and I haven't seen him taking many bonuses when he used to play elsewhere too except the odd one at Casumo. One can say alot about the Bandit but atleast he's not relying on the casino's money.
 
Wouldn't it be funny if Genesis had had their license pulled because of streamers playing with fake money or bonuses where they have no max stake etc. I'm sure that will happen at some point. Steamers are affiliates, and subject to the same ASA/UKGC guidelines as anyone else. Taking a bonus then playing £20 spins, when the max with a bonus for 'normal' customers is £5, is misleading. They will clamp down on it at some point.
 
colinsunderland said:
Wouldn't it be funny if Genesis had had their license pulled because of streamers playing with fake money or bonuses where they have no max stake etc. I'm sure that will happen at some point. Steamers are affiliates, and subject to the same ASA/UKGC guidelines as anyone else. Taking a bonus then playing £20 spins, when the max with a bonus for 'normal' customers is £5, is misleading. They will clamp down on it at some point.
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I actually saw this the other day with some guy called Craig, he managed to get his bonus money up to £7,000 (offline) and then came online and started playing £10 a spin, even though the website clearly stated a max of £5.

He ended up cashing out £8,000, which he showed in a his deposits and withdrawals - all seemed a bit shady to me, but what do I know
 
colinsunderland said:
Wouldn't it be funny if Genesis had had their license pulled because of streamers playing with fake money or bonuses where they have no max stake etc. I'm sure that will happen at some point. Steamers are affiliates, and subject to the same ASA/UKGC guidelines as anyone else. Taking a bonus then playing £20 spins, when the max with a bonus for 'normal' customers is £5, is misleading. They will clamp down on it at some point.
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I totally agree on this and, technically, it probably can be done automatically. I seem to remember Videoslots has a 'max-wager' setting from the days I used them. I have given up with any type of bonus now - saves the hassle until someone decides to demand a SoW off me.

However, isn't the full check with bonuses usually done when you try to withdraw ? They then sting you for that cheeky little £50 wager on roulette you did when you were a bit tipsy the previous weekend.
 
colinsunderland said:
Wouldn't it be funny if Genesis had had their license pulled because of streamers playing with fake money or bonuses where they have no max stake etc. I'm sure that will happen at some point. Steamers are affiliates, and subject to the same ASA/UKGC guidelines as anyone else. Taking a bonus then playing £20 spins, when the max with a bonus for 'normal' customers is £5, is misleading. They will clamp down on it at some point.
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Many casinos also exclude VIP:s from max bet rules, not sure if it's illegal to give special bonuses and bonus terms to some players if willing to do so, aren't these rules in casinos terms and conds and not regulators?
 
Playford7 said:
They had the license revoked didn’t they? Not totally lost as yet... but let’s be honest they won’t get it back.
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Apparently they are appealing said suspension of their UK licence. Good luck with that.........
 
Slottery said:
Many casinos also exclude VIP:s from max bet rules, not sure if it's illegal to give special bonuses and bonus terms to some players if willing to do so, aren't these rules in casinos terms and conds and not regulators?
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Yes but when streamers say they are taking a 100% match bonus, start playing at £20 bets, telling people to sign up for the bonus, without mentioning T&C's then it's safe to assume the ASA won't be impressed. All the ones who have the bot pumping out the 'sign up now' links in the chat, none include T&C's that I've seen, which is a definite breach.
 
colinsunderland said:
Yes but when streamers say they are taking a 100% match bonus, start playing at £20 bets, telling people to sign up for the bonus, without mentioning T&C's then it's safe to assume the ASA won't be impressed. All the ones who have the bot pumping out the 'sign up now' links in the chat, none include T&C's that I've seen, which is a definite breach.
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Terms should of course be in offers to be compliant, that's clear but don't think that make difference which bets they play themselves their bonuses.
 
Davey86 said:
The casinoeuro bonus is being push a lot at the minute streamer max bet is £10 but regular joe £5 max
Caxino and boom casinos for euro market max bet €20 for streamers but €5 for regular joes
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Got to get those mega wins on you tube somehow to show all those people who can afford to play £10 a spin how much they could win :) _that will be about 2 of the viewers
 
Fruity Slots show their overall profit and loss for the year.

so for 2020 so far , they are showing roughly over £200000 deposited and £300000 withdrawn, for the 7 months till now.

This averages about £30k deposits a month, around £1k a day .

they say they are in profit over 100k so far this year.

Any thoughts / comments ?
 
Spikie said:
Fruity Slots show their overall profit and loss for the year.

so for 2020 so far , they are showing roughly over £200000 deposited and £300000 withdrawn, for the 7 months till now.

This averages about £30k deposits a month, around £1k a day .

they say they are in profit over 100k so far this year.

Any thoughts / comments ?
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Haha fucking loads mate, but it’s not worth my membership here.
 
Spikie said:
Fruity Slots show their overall profit and loss for the year.

so for 2020 so far , they are showing roughly over £200000 deposited and £300000 withdrawn, for the 7 months till now.

This averages about £30k deposits a month, around £1k a day .

they say they are in profit over 100k so far this year.

Any thoughts / comments ?
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Apart from the fact that I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them, and would rather coat my todger in fish paste and stick it in a pirahna tank than sign up through them? Nah, no comment.
 
Spikie said:
Fruity Slots show their overall profit and loss for the year.

so for 2020 so far , they are showing roughly over £200000 deposited and £300000 withdrawn, for the 7 months till now.

This averages about £30k deposits a month, around £1k a day .

they say they are in profit over 100k so far this year.

Any thoughts / comments ?
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That would be down to bonuses then. Depositing flat cash and playing for months, you'd be extremely lucky not have the house edge bite and be down at least a bit.
 
Spikie said:
Fruity Slots show their overall profit and loss for the year.

so for 2020 so far , they are showing roughly over £200000 deposited and £300000 withdrawn, for the 7 months till now.

This averages about £30k deposits a month, around £1k a day .

they say they are in profit over 100k so far this year.

Any thoughts / comments ?
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If they had deposited 2 million they would already have a net profit of 1 million, wow what an investment !!
Are you sure the 200k deposited it in casinos?
 
Mr_Slot5 said:
Deposits and withdrawals that are 'proof' of real funds are not proof at all. It can all easily be spoofed at the casino end.

Not saying that's what was going on in the majority of instances but I'm merely pointing out it can be done.
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Yeah naturally.
Bank statements would be proof or a print out from a cash machine.
But you can hardly ask or demand that so the fake history on said casinos is enough to satisfy the fanboys and the like i suppose...
 
Playford7 said:
Yeah naturally.
Bank statements would be proof or a print out from a cash machine.
But you can hardly ask or demand that so the fake history on said casinos is enough to satisfy the fanboys and the like i suppose...
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They don't even really need to fake the history.
Even the fake money has to be 'deposited' into the system. So there's a balance to play with.
Probably from a Neteller/Skrill test account or casino account
 
brianmon said:
They don't even really need to fake the history.
Even the fake money has to be 'deposited' into the system. So there's a balance to play with.
Probably from a Neteller/Skrill test account or casino account
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The whole thing is a joke.
Not here to question stuff. I’m well aware it’s as fake as a page three models titties.

I know how it’s hidden, how they do it and have for years...

It’s just a shame many good brands use these jokers, but business is business.

Before I go nuclear I’ll leave it, corona cooking post will be live within 10
 
Thing is, they don't need fake money.

They make tons of money on affiliation, get 100-200% deposit bonuses on every single deposit and if they win, alot of them just leave the money in their skrill account to use for another gambling session. Several have said this.

The true money is in affiliation.
 
i have online friends that used to play slots with 'fake money'
they made more money than a regular job from affiliate money

EDIT: they used to stream on twitch basically everyday for about a year and a half
 
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Could someone check this out,

07:05



And how one spin leads to landing zero sticky wilds, and upon the second spin suddely wilds are being "attached" ? I know this game very well; and ive never seen it does it like that. Just notice the body language of Roshtein too. Something is very odd here.
 
I can't help it, I find his bs performace unintentionally funny in a cringe way, he repeats phrases while he thinks of some more crap to come out with.

That was odd with the sticky romans, the 2nd reel was a 10 and then transformed into a wild, the 3rd reel was a coin and then that just became a wild. Never played the game myself but momentarily he seemed surprised and then ultra quickly glossed over it.

Also I didn't realise he 'won' a million in a bonus round back in november too, time linked to preceeding spin:

 
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mack341 said:
That was odd with the sticky romans, the 2nd reel was a 10 and then transformed into a wild, the 3rd reel was a coin and then that just became a wild. Never played the game myself but momentarily he seemed surprised and then ultra quickly glossed over it.
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Yes it's odd and no that not how the game initially works. I mean start the clip at the beginning of the bonus and you'll get a glimpse of how those wilds are supposed to land. They are like overlayed on top of the game in this "odd" moment.

But i guess someone like him could have access to such tools; to spawn symbols or wins the way he wants. As i said just look at his body language. It's like he clicked something together there and is like; okkk lets enjoy the show.

I've played roman legion quite a few hours; wilds never land like that; wilds never spawn like that; we know he used a overlay before. He's as fake as f to be honest. I guess there's a dumb group of people still believing it's all real.

All the genuine streamers, never got so close as he is on weekly basis. Million here, 50k there, 190k under his chair, 240k coming out of his nose. It's just impossible, esp considering the casino's that he (used) to promote with a "5k withdrawl limit" a week.

And newer games just presented in casino's, do not, i repeat do not ever give big wins. When games are put in category "new" it means they are being "seeded". After the seeding is done the game is being moved along the rest of the "slots" category. Wins suddenly appear.
 
When the coins land at 07:25 he says "ohhh coin, alriiiiiight... (coins then change to wild) I mean, oh shit , we got him ok. love that."
I dont know how this game works, but since he says "its such a shitty game, but when it does that, wow!" at the end of the feature, suggests to me he knows how it works.
But for him to vocally suggest he is aware the coins changed into wilds, but not be confused, is a little strange.
 
mack341 said:
I can't help it, I find his bs performace unintentionally funny in a cringe way, he repeats phrases while he thinks of some more crap to come out with.

That was odd with the sticky romans, the 2nd reel was a 10 and then transformed into a wild, the 3rd reel was a coin and then that just became a wild. Never played the game myself but momentarily he seemed surprised and then ultra quickly glossed over it.

Also I didn't realise he 'won' a million in a bonus round back in november too, time linked to preceeding spin:

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That'll teach me for skipping through rosh's words of wisdom and not examining the clickbait text either, that was Rosh watching a replay of somebody else winning 1 million spondulicks d'oh!! :oops:
 
Slotplayer83 said:
And newer games just presented in casino's, do not, i repeat do not ever give big wins. When games are put in category "new" it means they are being "seeded". After the seeding is done the game is being moved along the rest of the "slots" category. Wins suddenly appear.
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Can I send you an invoice for payment of all NEW slot releases where the result was negative on day 1? Will be a massive invoice, trust me.
 

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