Irresponsible streamers & affiliates?

[goatwack]

You've been trying to gamble your partner away again havent you

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No

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Don't be silly

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Yes

 

[Playford7]

 

[goatwack]

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You're doing well sir. Keep resisting!

 

[Playford7]

 

[EkJR]

Some much better than others.

Fruity Slots promoting Slotty Vegas and numerous other Aspire/Genesis brands.

Roshtein, no need for me to explain that one. Almost certainly a fake money streamer as well.

Chip - Genesis casinos galore.

Nickslots - Seems to be promoting fairly decent casinos in the scheme of things and I quite enjoy his stream.

 

[EkJR]

Spot for the Bandit, can be entertaining but has descended into the viewing of a seriously troubled compulsive gambler.

 

[Davey86]

You can tell from certain streams who needs the affiliation by practically begging for sign ups

 

[Davey86]

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Well done sir

 

[Borgie]

Some much better than others.

Fruity Slots promoting Slotty Vegas and numerous other Aspire/Genesis brands.

Roshtein, no need for me to explain that one. Almost certainly a fake money streamer as well.

Chip - Genesis casinos galore.

Nickslots - Seems to be promoting fairly decent casinos in the scheme of things and I quite enjoy his stream.

I thought all genesis casinos had to be removed ?

 

[Playford7]

I thought all genesis casinos had to be removed ?

They had the license revoked didn’t they? Not totally lost as yet... but let’s be honest they won’t get it back.

 

[Borgie]

They had the license revoked didn’t they? Not totally lost as yet... but let’s be honest they won’t get it back.

Yes so no streamer or affililate should be advertising them for now

 

[Robert Rabbit]

Yes so no streamer or affililate should be advertising them for now

Was watching some streamer the other day, normally plays between 60p and 80p depositing £300-£500 a time. Now that Genesis have gone he said he will be opening a low stakes channel on 20p etc.

 

[Playford7]

Was watching some streamer the other day, normally plays between 60p and 80p depositing £300-£500 a time. Now that Genesis have gone he said he will be opening a low stakes channel on 20p etc.

Bless

 

[Bloatgoat]

Was watching some streamer the other day, normally plays between 60p and 80p depositing £300-£500 a time. Now that Genesis have gone he said he will be opening a low stakes channel on 20p etc.

Could be two reasons for that,

1: he did'nt got enough affiliation going on, the affiliate company booted him out.

2: The deposits dont outweigh the costs or wins in this case, and the streamer is losing money on the long run.

But really i dont care at all on who plays on what stake. Your not obligated to watch, it's not your money, and surely you cant be policing in there saying he cant play at that stake. Did you know the casino i play in has a slot that has a max bet of 460 euro per spin ?

I mean i thought i did crazy with buying 4x 2000 euro extra chilli buys and finally hitting the jackpot, but slotting at that level is just abnormal. Now 20 euro max bet is in my opinion a good sweet spot, same applies to land based as well. There's no need in my opinion for any casino to offer games above 100 to 200 euro a spin, let alone 460 euro, rofl.

I mean 10 presses and we're looking at a 4600 euro wagering.

I know the UK is getting bans from all the area's it can get where even the max stake is on the agenda to being limited to just 2 pound a spin. But the UK is'nt the rest of the world as there are alot of casino's with no restrictions really unless they dont want financial liability as in paying out a player for too much.

But Bandit and others, use bonus money. Even Rocknrolla admitted to have bonus added on top of his balance. They have to. But here's come's my own experience into playing with bonus funded money. You get actions and wins all over the place as long as your within your wagering requirement but the moment your out of it and in a positive balance, the party is over for slots. Unless you switch back to live games, that's a different story.

I just dont understand how playing with real money affects a much more difficult slot experience in general then playing with bonus money. Appearantly we all gotta go onto the bonus money wagering band now to at least get some action, and wager yourself to shit with 39 to 49 x requirements.

Casino's are getting shit lately.

 

[colinsunderland]

Could be two reasons for that,

1: he did'nt got enough affiliation going on, the affiliate company booted him out.

2: The deposits dont outweigh the costs or wins in this case, and the streamer is losing money on the long run.

But really i dont care at all on who plays on what stake. Your not obligated to watch, it's not your money, and surely you cant be policing in there saying he cant play at that stake. Did you know the casino i play in has a slot that has a max bet of 460 euro per spin ?

I mean i thought i did crazy with buying 4x 2000 euro extra chilli buys and finally hitting the jackpot, but slotting at that level is just abnormal. Now 20 euro max bet is in my opinion a good sweet spot, same applies to land based as well. There's no need in my opinion for any casino to offer games above 100 to 200 euro a spin, let alone 460 euro, rofl.

I mean 10 presses and we're looking at a 4600 euro wagering.

I know the UK is getting bans from all the area's it can get where even the max stake is on the agenda to being limited to just 2 pound a spin. But the UK is'nt the rest of the world as there are alot of casino's with no restrictions really unless they dont want financial liability as in paying out a player for too much.

But Bandit and others, use bonus money. Even Rocknrolla admitted to have bonus added on top of his balance. They have to. But here's come's my own experience into playing with bonus funded money. You get actions and wins all over the place as long as your within your wagering requirement but the moment your out of it and in a positive balance, the party is over for slots. Unless you switch back to live games, that's a different story.

I just dont understand how playing with real money affects a much more difficult slot experience in general then playing with bonus money. Appearantly we all gotta go onto the bonus money wagering band now to at least get some action, and wager yourself to shit with 39 to 49 x requirements.

Casino's are getting shit lately.

I'm not sure the bandit uses bonuses, he plays a lot at videoslots, and quite often has shown his history, no signs of a bonus on there, plus Videoslots aren't exactly know for handing out bonuses, why do you think so few streamers play there (apart from their abysmal affiliate scheme)? Genesis were offering streamers large bonuses and fake money to play, so thats more likely why he is going low stake. Plus, if most his customers he referred to Genesis were UK customers, then his affiliate income has just stopped overnight.

 

[Robert Rabbit]

Could be two reasons for that,

1: he did'nt got enough affiliation going on, the affiliate company booted him out.

2: The deposits dont outweigh the costs or wins in this case, and the streamer is losing money on the long run.

But really i dont care at all on who plays on what stake. Your not obligated to watch, it's not your money, and surely you cant be policing in there saying he cant play at that stake. Did you know the casino i play in has a slot that has a max bet of 460 euro per spin ?

I agree, and I sure as hell ain't policing anyone. I was just highlighting the impact that the banning of Genesis Casino was having on certain streamers.

 

[sufferinsilence]

I'm not sure the bandit uses bonuses, he plays a lot at videoslots, and quite often has shown his history, no signs of a bonus on there, plus Videoslots aren't exactly know for handing out bonuses, why do you think so few streamers play there (apart from their abysmal affiliate scheme)? Genesis were offering streamers large bonuses and fake money to play, so thats more likely why he is going low stake. Plus, if most his customers he referred to Genesis were UK customers, then his affiliate income has just stopped overnight.

Since a while he always plays at VS and I haven't seen him taking many bonuses when he used to play elsewhere too except the odd one at Casumo. One can say alot about the Bandit but atleast he's not relying on the casino's money.

 

[colinsunderland]

Wouldn't it be funny if Genesis had had their license pulled because of streamers playing with fake money or bonuses where they have no max stake etc. I'm sure that will happen at some point. Steamers are affiliates, and subject to the same ASA/UKGC guidelines as anyone else. Taking a bonus then playing £20 spins, when the max with a bonus for 'normal' customers is £5, is misleading. They will clamp down on it at some point.

 

[Robert Rabbit]

Wouldn't it be funny if Genesis had had their license pulled because of streamers playing with fake money or bonuses where they have no max stake etc. I'm sure that will happen at some point. Steamers are affiliates, and subject to the same ASA/UKGC guidelines as anyone else. Taking a bonus then playing £20 spins, when the max with a bonus for 'normal' customers is £5, is misleading. They will clamp down on it at some point.

I actually saw this the other day with some guy called Craig, he managed to get his bonus money up to £7,000 (offline) and then came online and started playing £10 a spin, even though the website clearly stated a max of £5.

He ended up cashing out £8,000, which he showed in a his deposits and withdrawals - all seemed a bit shady to me, but what do I know

 

[Masquerade67]

Wouldn't it be funny if Genesis had had their license pulled because of streamers playing with fake money or bonuses where they have no max stake etc. I'm sure that will happen at some point. Steamers are affiliates, and subject to the same ASA/UKGC guidelines as anyone else. Taking a bonus then playing £20 spins, when the max with a bonus for 'normal' customers is £5, is misleading. They will clamp down on it at some point.

I totally agree on this and, technically, it probably can be done automatically. I seem to remember Videoslots has a 'max-wager' setting from the days I used them. I have given up with any type of bonus now - saves the hassle until someone decides to demand a SoW off me.

However, isn't the full check with bonuses usually done when you try to withdraw ? They then sting you for that cheeky little £50 wager on roulette you did when you were a bit tipsy the previous weekend.

 

[Slottery]

Wouldn't it be funny if Genesis had had their license pulled because of streamers playing with fake money or bonuses where they have no max stake etc. I'm sure that will happen at some point. Steamers are affiliates, and subject to the same ASA/UKGC guidelines as anyone else. Taking a bonus then playing £20 spins, when the max with a bonus for 'normal' customers is £5, is misleading. They will clamp down on it at some point.

Many casinos also exclude VIP:s from max bet rules, not sure if it's illegal to give special bonuses and bonus terms to some players if willing to do so, aren't these rules in casinos terms and conds and not regulators?

 

[News Hound]

They had the license revoked didn’t they? Not totally lost as yet... but let’s be honest they won’t get it back.

Apparently they are appealing said suspension of their UK licence. Good luck with that.........

 

[colinsunderland]

Many casinos also exclude VIP:s from max bet rules, not sure if it's illegal to give special bonuses and bonus terms to some players if willing to do so, aren't these rules in casinos terms and conds and not regulators?

Yes but when streamers say they are taking a 100% match bonus, start playing at £20 bets, telling people to sign up for the bonus, without mentioning T&C's then it's safe to assume the ASA won't be impressed. All the ones who have the bot pumping out the 'sign up now' links in the chat, none include T&C's that I've seen, which is a definite breach.

 

[Slottery]

Yes but when streamers say they are taking a 100% match bonus, start playing at £20 bets, telling people to sign up for the bonus, without mentioning T&C's then it's safe to assume the ASA won't be impressed. All the ones who have the bot pumping out the 'sign up now' links in the chat, none include T&C's that I've seen, which is a definite breach.

Terms should of course be in offers to be compliant, that's clear but don't think that make difference which bets they play themselves their bonuses.

 

[Davey86]

A casino terms and conditions do state about max bet at their discretion can be amended I’m not sure which casino it was or how long ago I read it