Resolved iNetBet withdrawal delay

[Casinomeister]

The multiple accounts are not with iNetBet, nor with the forum. Pobeda was making complaints in another thread concerning another casino property, which the casino investigated and it turns out this player has quite a few accounts using a variation of similar names and email addresses.

Sometimes running a forum can be a real pain in the butt since every so often a long time member is exposed as being dodgy or just plain obnoxious. This is not the first time it's happened, nor will it be the last.

I'm still looking into this and should have more on this tomorrow.

 

[Tirilej]

I got a little scared yesterday when I found out that Pobeda had been banned.

I can't see him as an evil fraudster, but as a person who maybe complains a little too much.
It's easy to get carried away. If going back and read my emails with Inetbet I know that they really upset me many times.
What they said that upset me don't seem so bad when reading it now, but if you're frustrated already, you read them the way your emotions let you and it's not always correct.
He did apologize and his account with them is closed, so maybe tell him to think first before he say a single word about Inetbet again would be an enough punishment. I think he can learn to behave

To mix in another group in this bann feels awful.
I know what thread and group it is about, and I don't really care what he have done to them. The question is how long ago was it he created those multiple accounts, and have he accused them of not paying him?
Not liking them and saying they are bad is not a reason enough for me. So many are doing that.

I trust that Max and Bryan will make the right decision, and they know more than I do. I just felt I needed to speak my mind anyway.

 

[maxd]

Not liking them and saying they are bad is not a reason enough for me.

How about the repeated lies throughout the thread regarding iNetBet's email responses?

How about leading forum members to draw conclusions that they knew for a fact were untrue, then THANKING them for it!

How about the threats and abuse toward the casino that preceded this issue hitting the forums?

So it's fine to lie to the membership; lie about the case, lie about pretty much everything other than what it was they personally wanted? AND be an abusive *bleep* in the process?

If that is how low we are willing to set the bar these days then what can I say? The fraudsters and scam artists will have finally won the day because you'll be telling them that it's fine, you have no problem with the dirt they do just as long as they get away with it for long enough.

If our processes can't be based on trust and the expectation of truthfulness then we're screwed: none of this will work and we've basically flushed the whole ballgame down the toilet.

You get what you settle for and if you're willing to settle for people lying at every turn because it suits them to do so -- and reward them for it! -- then so be it. But don't complain when you are lied to and cheated and nothing is done about it. It cuts both ways.

And just for the record, I don't care if the OP has been here since god made dust. Longevity is a bucket that holds respect as long as you don't punch a bunch of holes in the bottom of it. You -- the generic "you" not anyone in particular -- can't blame the bucket if you ripped the bottom out of it.

 

[chayton]

EDIT: just had something explained to me so nevermind...

 

[Tirilej]

How about the repeated lies throughout the thread regarding iNetBet's email responses?

How about leading forum members to draw conclusions that they knew for a fact were untrue, then THANKING them for it!

So it's fine to lie to the membership; lie about the case, lie about pretty much everything other than what it was they personally wanted?

If that is how low we are willing to set the bar these days then what can I say?

If our processes can't be based on trust and the expectation of truthfulness then we're screwed: none of this will work and we've basically flushed the whole ballgame down the toilet.

You get what you settle for and if you're willing to settle for people lying to you at every turn because it suits them to do so then so be it. But don't complain when you are lied to and cheated and nothing is done about it. It cuts both ways.

And just for the record, I don't care if the OP has been here since god invented dust. Longevity is a bucket that holds respect as long as you don't punch a bunch of holes in the bottom of it. You can't blame the bucket if you ripped the bottom out of it.

What you quoted was not what I said about Inetbet but the other casinogroup.

I do not think it's ok to lie, but I did explain why you can get frustrated with reading their emails.

I do trust you, but I don't want you to tell me I can't say what I feel or think.
We don't always see things the same way and that should be ok.

Now I will shut up!

 

[maxd]

I do trust you, but I don't want you to tell me I can't say what I feel or think.

Absolutely! No one should. But I'm not telling you such things, what I'm trying to do is show the consequences of accepting what the OP did as being okay, no big deal, forget about it and welcome them among us. That is what I understood you to be saying and as you can see I have a real problem with it. Not with you personally but with the notion that things like this should be swept under the carpet because the person has been around for a long time, or any such unrelated excuse.

 

[paul7388]

Not that this will count for much Max but personally I agree with what you said and why you banned the member. If a member just bitched all the time about the casino then fair enough but as someone who used inetbet for so long and being on here they know the last few months the problems in withdrawals. They knew they would get their money but constantly kept posting as if they thought hey I keep moaning ill get paid faster. Even then its still okay but fact they lied etc. to everyone here about never getting replies etc. and turning this whole thread into a witchhunt against the casino for being a few days late with a payment is bang out of order. If the forum allows members to use it for their own means by lying and causing trouble then it will end up no better than any other forum. Remember that in order to be a success the forum needs a good relationship with casinos, and if accredited casinos see threads where members use the forum against them through lies and general troublemaking and it goes unpunished then that ruins the trust between yourself and the casinos as they look at it as well the forum is happy to let members rip us to pieces with out doing anything and that's not good for business.

 

[emily_hanson]

Not to throw gas on a fire:

I think we all need to step back for a moment. There are some issues here that caused PO to react the way he did.

Slow pays. This has been going on for a while now. Look threw the threads and you can see that. Now I don't play there because of lack of live help. However that being said I have someone I personally talk to every day who has been waiting on a lot of money for over a month. He is not part of Cm and is dealing with the situation. So first hand I know the slow pays are an issue.

This is how Rushmore started there decline. If you recall so I can understand people and customers getting nervous and upset.

OK maybe emails were a little to harsh or vulgar but its the nature of the business as well. When a customer feels bullshitted especially a gambler conversations usually start off nice and will deteriorate from there.

Second problem is customer service or should I say lack of it. How many threads have we read once again about non response from said casino. I think this needs to be looked into as well.


Now the rep never posted in this thread but sent messages to PO, I think the rep should have just stated in thread I am trying to work issue out or I see it and we are in talks or working with max now -something to calm people.. Remember we are from the USA the first sign of a slow pay and no response rep puts us all into panic mode.

this whole situation is wrong - now as for Po he is a long term member here and I do not recall there ever being an issue with him before- So I think this needs to really be looked at. I respect both max and po so I am Switzerland. Now kiss and make up!!!!

Also I am confused about one thing. PO is big time player how can he have multi accts? I mean once a casino see multi accts he would have been black listed so the fraudster info is confusing me.

cpdnd31

Please PM me at your earliest, this friends name so I may investigate as there is not one single person to my knowledge that is awaiting payment for any period, let alone 'over a month'.

Thank you.
Emily

 

[cpdnd31]

Emily I will contact him tonight and ask if it is OK to get involved. I will let you know.

 

[cpdnd31]

Max none of us are saying that what happened is acceptable behavior. I understand completely what you are saying. That being said what bothers me is this is so out of character for PO. I don't ever recall reading him making a angry post here before. We are never privy to what info you see, so we only have what we read to go by. The whole situation is just plain wacky.

I know I am glad i'm not you at this point. If I was looking for a solution to the problem I would do a 30 day ban and say cut the shit out or next time you won't be here. That is assuming he is not a fraudster. Which I have to be honest when I read that it just floored me. If he is defrauding a casino and you have proof then kick him to the curb.

Look I think we just proved male PMS does exist!

 

[maxd]

... none of us are saying that what happened is acceptable behavior.

Good, on that we agree.

I disagree that pobeda should be reinstated, now or ever, but I reckon you already knew that.

 

[dunover]

In history the worst conmen have had a smooth, plausible and convincing face, and when exposed we hear 'well, who'd have thought it"......

 

[gagamel]

Max none of us are saying that what happened is acceptable behavior. I understand completely what you are saying. That being said what bothers me is this is so out of character for PO. I don't ever recall reading him making a angry post here before. We are never privy to what info you see, so we only have what we read to go by. The whole situation is just plain wacky.

I know I am glad i'm not you at this point. If I was looking for a solution to the problem I would do a 30 day ban and say cut the shit out or next time you won't be here. That is assuming he is not a fraudster. Which I have to be honest when I read that it just floored me. If he is defrauding a casino and you have proof then kick him to the curb.

Look I think we just proved male PMS does exist!

But he is a multiple account fraudster.

If he will stay here I have to state that bsilva28 also has to come back. He was also a nice guy and I defended him.

But he was a multiple account fraudster and he was going downwards because he made one silly comment in a thread.

We all have to respect the rules of this forum. We accepted these rules with joining the forums.

 

[cpdnd31]

Hi Emily I sent you the info per pm as you asked. i really hope you can help him.

Thank you,
Michelle/cpdnd31

 

[bigjohn]

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[cpdnd31]

In all fairness my friends payment is an affiliate payment not player payment. All I knew was they owed him money. Its my fault I assumed it was player money owed. But still I guess lack of payment qualifies.

 

[bigjohn]

In all fairness my friends payment is an affiliate payment not player payment. All I knew was they owed him money. Its my fault I assumed it was player money owed. But still I guess lack of payment qualifies.

We're you planning on updating the forum about this?

 

[BMWSTACK]

In all fairness my friends payment is an affiliate payment not player payment. All I knew was they owed him money. Its my fault I assumed it was player money owed. But still I guess lack of payment qualifies.

Why not refer your friend to casinomeister, the more the merrier. There is actually a section for "Affiliate Problems".

 

[cpdnd31]

I did update forum with info.

 

[cpdnd31]

Just to update: Emily is working on issue and we believe it has been solved. I like to say Thank you to her for stepping up and helping.

also working on getting my friend to join CM/

 

[blonde]

Was just curious I see the op is still pending final decision and was wondering if we will see him back around?

 

[maxd]

Was just curious I see the op is still pending final decision and was wondering if we will see him back around?

Unlikely. Bryan is travelling at the moment but he does check in regularly. When he does I can't imagine this is at the top of his agenda.

I've updated the OP's status to avoid confusion.